My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.

So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:00:28 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
>one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
>here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>
>So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
>They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
>say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?

The problem is with the [crap] grinder, NOT the peppercorns.

On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:15:25 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:00:28 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
>>one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
>>here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>>
>>So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
>>They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
>>say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
>
>The problem is with the [crap] grinder, NOT the peppercorns.

Right. So both my old grinder and new one (which wasn't cheap and
bought from a commercial catering supplies store) are crap.

As always, you make so much sense when you're drunk.

On 3/1/2016 3:20 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:15:25 -0500, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:00:28 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
>>> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
>>> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>>>
>>> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
>>> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
>>> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
>>
>> The problem is with the [crap] grinder, NOT the peppercorns.
>
> Right. So both my old grinder and new one (which wasn't cheap and
> bought from a commercial catering supplies store) are crap.
>
> As always, you make so much sense when you're drunk.
>

I used to have a box of cracked pepper. Hoo boy, that went through the
mill fast and smooth. If I see one of those containers of cracked pepper
in the big warehouse stores I'm jumping on that one! These days,
grinding pepper is a big drag.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:30:39 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:

>On 3/1/2016 3:20 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:15:25 -0500, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:00:28 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
>>>> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
>>>> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>>>>
>>>> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
>>>> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
>>>> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
>>>
>>> The problem is with the [crap] grinder, NOT the peppercorns.
>>
>> Right. So both my old grinder and new one (which wasn't cheap and
>> bought from a commercial catering supplies store) are crap.
>>
>> As always, you make so much sense when you're drunk.
>>
>
>I used to have a box of cracked pepper. Hoo boy, that went through the
>mill fast and smooth. If I see one of those containers of cracked pepper
>in the big warehouse stores I'm jumping on that one!

I'd better buy some fresh ones myself when next in town.

>These days, grinding pepper is a big drag.

Yes, it's a terrible strain on the wrist.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>
> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?

Did you perchance fill it too full? I have done that and it won't grind
because there isn't enough room for the peppercorns to move around. The
best I could get was the outside being shaved off.

On 3/1/2016 3:34 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:30:39 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>
>> On 3/1/2016 3:20 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:15:25 -0500, Brooklyn1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:00:28 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
>>>>> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
>>>>> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
>>>>> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
>>>>> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
>>>>
>>>> The problem is with the [crap] grinder, NOT the peppercorns.
>>>
>>> Right. So both my old grinder and new one (which wasn't cheap and
>>> bought from a commercial catering supplies store) are crap.
>>>
>>> As always, you make so much sense when you're drunk.
>>>
>>
>> I used to have a box of cracked pepper. Hoo boy, that went through the
>> mill fast and smooth. If I see one of those containers of cracked pepper
>> in the big warehouse stores I'm jumping on that one!
>
> I'd better buy some fresh ones myself when next in town.
>
>> These days, grinding pepper is a big drag.
>
> Yes, it's a terrible strain on the wrist.
>

I don't believe that wrists were meant to be used in such a fashion
i.e., twisting. Rotating the wrist is just plain unnatural!

On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 17:38:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
>> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
>> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>>
>> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
>> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
>> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
>
>Did you perchance fill it too full? I have done that and it won't grind
>because there isn't enough room for the peppercorns to move around. The
>best I could get was the outside being shaved off.

No, not overfilled as I learned about that one long ago. Thanks for
your help anyway Julie.

On 3/1/2016 8:00 PM, Je�us wrote:
> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>
> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
>

Could be the grinder is not adjusted properly or defective. Never had a
problem with peppercorns. Take it back and get an Atlas.

On 3/1/2016 8:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>>
>> Yes, it's a terrible strain on the wrist.
>>
>
> I don't believe that wrists were meant to be used in such a fashion
> i.e., twisting. Rotating the wrist is just plain unnatural!

Get an Atlas with a crank on top. Very easy to use with no strain.
https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#n...+pep per+mill

On 3/1/2016 9:12 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/1/2016 8:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> I don't believe that wrists were meant to be used in such a fashion
>> i.e., twisting. Rotating the wrist is just plain unnatural!
>
> Get an Atlas with a crank on top. Very easy to use with no strain.
> https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#n...+pep per+mill
>
I agree. I don't have an Atlas, but my kitchen pepper grinders have
cranks. I have a small, pretty, twist one, for the table.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 21:10:42 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 3/1/2016 8:00 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
>> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
>> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>>
>> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
>> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
>> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
>>
>
>Could be the grinder is not adjusted properly or defective. Never had a
>problem with peppercorns.

Just before I was hunting around in a cupboard for some smoked paprika
(made some hommous) and I found another pepper grinder I'd forgotten
about (a very tall one which I don't really need, which is why it was
stashed in there, I guess). Anyway, same thing... it won't grind the
peppercorns I have. I can only put it down to the peppercorns being
too old and now too hard <shrug>. The matching new salt mill I bought
with it works fine, BTW.

>Take it back and get an Atlas.

I just looked them up. Nice looking mills, especially the brass ones.
If I have no joy with my new mill I might just get one, along with a
salt mill.

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 4:12:29 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/1/2016 8:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Yes, it's a terrible strain on the wrist.
> >>
> >
> > I don't believe that wrists were meant to be used in such a fashion
> > i.e., twisting. Rotating the wrist is just plain unnatural!
>
> Get an Atlas with a crank on top. Very easy to use with no strain.
> https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#n...+pep per+mill

My intention is to use a coffee mill to grind the crap out of those peppercorns. I feel like sneezing already!

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 8:40:59 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On 3/1/2016 3:34 PM, Je�us wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:30:39 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/1/2016 3:20 PM, Je?us wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:15:25 -0500, Brooklyn1
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:00:28 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
> >>>>> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
> >>>>> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
> >>>>> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
> >>>>> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem is with the [crap] grinder, NOT the peppercorns.
> >>>
> >>> Right. So both my old grinder and new one (which wasn't cheap and
> >>> bought from a commercial catering supplies store) are crap.
> >>>
> >>> As always, you make so much sense when you're drunk.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I used to have a box of cracked pepper. Hoo boy, that went through the
> >> mill fast and smooth. If I see one of those containers of cracked pepper
> >> in the big warehouse stores I'm jumping on that one!
> >
> > I'd better buy some fresh ones myself when next in town.
> >
> >> These days, grinding pepper is a big drag.
> >
> > Yes, it's a terrible strain on the wrist.
> >
>
> I don't believe that wrists were meant to be used in such a fashion
> i.e., twisting. Rotating the wrist is just plain unnatural!

Not every pepper mill requires rotating the wrist. All of mine
have a handle on top, like this:

<http://www.amazon.com/Pepper-Mill-Imports-Atlas-Brass/dp/B00015USPQ>

That badboy puts out a ton of pepper.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Not every pepper mill requires rotating the wrist. All of mine
> have a handle on top, like this:
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/Pepper-Mill-Imports-Atlas-Brass/dp/B00015USPQ>
>
> That badboy puts out a ton of pepper.

For the high price, it ought to.

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:27:07 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> My intention is to use a coffee mill to grind the crap out of those peppercorns. I feel like sneezing already!

I don't know from personal experience but I have read that using a coffee "grinder", if it's the type with the rotating blade, heats up the spice (or coffee) and does not give as good a result as a mill.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 7:28:33 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Not every pepper mill requires rotating the wrist. All of mine
> > have a handle on top, like this:
> >
> > <http://www.amazon.com/Pepper-Mill-Imports-Atlas-Brass/dp/B00015USPQ>
> >
> > That badboy puts out a ton of pepper.
>
> For the high price, it ought to.

I hadn't looked at the price. I don't think I paid
that much for mine (adjusted for inflation), but perhaps
I did. I know I've had it a long, long time, and will
probably have it until I die.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >, says...
>
> On 3/1/2016 3:34 PM, Je?us wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:30:39 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/1/2016 3:20 PM, Je?us wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:15:25 -0500, Brooklyn1
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:00:28 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
> >>>>> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
> >>>>> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
> >>>>> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
> >>>>> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem is with the [crap] grinder, NOT the peppercorns.
> >>>
> >>> Right. So both my old grinder and new one (which wasn't cheap and
> >>> bought from a commercial catering supplies store) are crap.
> >>>
> >>> As always, you make so much sense when you're drunk.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I used to have a box of cracked pepper. Hoo boy, that went through the
> >> mill fast and smooth. If I see one of those containers of cracked pepper
> >> in the big warehouse stores I'm jumping on that one!
> >
> > I'd better buy some fresh ones myself when next in town.
> >
> >> These days, grinding pepper is a big drag.
> >
> > Yes, it's a terrible strain on the wrist.
> >
>
> I don't believe that wrists were meant to be used in such a fashion
> i.e., twisting. Rotating the wrist is just plain unnatural!

Get an electronic one; effortless and completely reliable. I've had
one for years, one of my favourite kitchen gadgets.

http://www.johnlewis.com/cole-mason-...single-silver-
electronic-mill/p2181249

Janet UK

On 2016-03-02, Janet > wrote:
>
> Get an electronic one; effortless and completely reliable. I've had
> one for years, one of my favourite kitchen gadgets.
>
> http://www.johnlewis.com/cole-mason-...single-silver-
> electronic-mill/p2181249

I might consider it. Certainly cheaper than my Atlas brand pepper grndr
--the one Shelley always brags on-- which cost $75 at Sur Hi Tab and
has a soft steel burr which has worn condsiderably in the 20 yrs I've
owned it. Yeah, they're great when new, but they wear rapidly.

nb

Helpful person wrote:
>dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> My intention is to use a coffee mill to grind the crap out of those peppercorns. I feel like sneezing already!
>
>I don't know from personal experience but I have read that using a coffee "grinder", if it's the type with the
>rotating blade, heats up the spice (or coffee) and does not give as good a result as a mill.

Those electric whirly blade things do indeed heat spices and the end
result is also too fine. The Atlas mills are in fact Turkish/Greek
coffee mills (issued to their military) but do an excellent job with
peppercorns... and it's simple to adjust the grind. I have the kind
that catches the grinds in a small metal cup that covers the base,
it's easy to grind enough to fill a pepper shaker... the large crank.
on top makes grinding effortless. Beware, several companies sell
Atlas knock offs. This is the real deal:
http://www.pugsly.com/Mills.htm

On 3/2/2016 7:27 AM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Not every pepper mill requires rotating the wrist. All of mine
>> have a handle on top, like this:
>>
>> <http://www.amazon.com/Pepper-Mill-Imports-Atlas-Brass/dp/B00015USPQ>
>>
>> That badboy puts out a ton of pepper.
>
> For the high price, it ought to.
>
Brass isn't cheap, Gary. I have a wooden peppermill with a crank on the
top. Works just fine. I think I bought it from The Spice House but I
truly don't remember. It was a long time ago.

Jill

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 7:26:45 AM UTC-6, Helpful person wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:27:07 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > My intention is to use a coffee mill to grind the crap out of those peppercorns. I feel like sneezing already!
>
> I don't know from personal experience but I have read that using a coffee "grinder", if it's the type with the rotating blade, heats up the spice (or coffee) and does not give as good a result as a mill.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com

Yep, high speed coffee "slicers", which I used for years before I got a real burr grinder. But I don't think heat builds uo unless you run the coffee "slicers" for a long long time, not 30 secs or so.

John Kuthe...

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 7:00:44 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>
> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?

I have a William Bounds Original, looks like this model:

http://www.wmboundsltd.com/product-p/00621.htm

It's VERY nice. Only problem is sometimes the peppercorns occasionally form a temp clog at the grinder mill inside, nothing an inversion and a rap against something hard will not dislodge.

Yeah it's a little pricey, but it's made in the USA, and it WORKS!!

John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 10:15:14 AM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Helpful person wrote:
> >dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >> My intention is to use a coffee mill to grind the crap out of those peppercorns. I feel like sneezing already!
> >
> >I don't know from personal experience but I have read that using a coffee "grinder", if it's the type with the
> >rotating blade, heats up the spice (or coffee) and does not give as good a result as a mill.
>
> Those electric whirly blade things do indeed heat spices and the end
> result is also too fine. The Atlas mills are in fact Turkish/Greek
> coffee mills (issued to their military) but do an excellent job with
> peppercorns... and it's simple to adjust the grind. I have the kind
> that catches the grinds in a small metal cup that covers the base,
> it's easy to grind enough to fill a pepper shaker... the large crank.
> on top makes grinding effortless. Beware, several companies sell
> Atlas knock offs. This is the real deal:
> http://www.pugsly.com/Mills.htm

Did you put a temperature probe in and measure the temps ShelDUM, or are you just going from the heresay people have been yammering about for ever?

I haven't, but I can't imagine that a "coffee slicer" as I call them would heat up the coffee (which was roasted anyway, remember?) to the temp point where it would start affecting the coffee flavors negatively.

John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 12:02:48 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I haven't, but I can't imagine that a "coffee slicer" as I call them would heat up the coffee (which was roasted anyway, remember?) to the temp point where it would start affecting the coffee flavors negatively.
>
> John Kuthe...

It'd not necessarily heat. The manner in which certain foods are cut (sharp blade, blunt blade, crushed) can considerably effect the final taste.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 05:26:37 -0800 (PST), Helpful person
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:27:07 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> My intention is to use a coffee mill to grind the crap out of those peppercorns. I feel like sneezing already!
>
>I don't know from personal experience but I have read that using a coffee "grinder", if it's the type with the rotating blade, heats up the spice (or coffee) and does not give as good a result as a mill.

They should be avoided.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 08:33:27 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 7:00:44 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
>> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
>> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
>> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>>
>> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
>> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
>> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
>
>I have a William Bounds Original, looks like this model:
>
>http://www.wmboundsltd.com/product-p/00621.htm
>
>It's VERY nice. Only problem is sometimes the peppercorns occasionally form a temp clog at the grinder mill inside, nothing an inversion and a rap against something hard will not dislodge.

That seems common to just about all grinders.

>Yeah it's a little pricey, but it's made in the USA, and it WORKS!!

I'll take a look, thanks.

On 2016-03-02, Jeßus > wrote:

> They should be avoided.

Nonsense.

I've used 'em fer yrs. First to grind coffee fer paper filter-cone
brewing. Later, fer grinding whole spices, which I do often and
desire a fine powder. I also have spice grinder attachments fer my
Kenwood stand mixer and they're basically whirlybird-style coffee
grinder attachments.

The only place a whirlybird-blade grinder is not desirable is for a
proper expresso coffee grind. Espresso requires an extremely precise
and uniform grind and motorized grinders that can deliver such a grind
are quite expensive, typically running between $200-$1200. Some of
that cost is the hardened steel burrs, both flat and conical. Not
cheap.

Actually, I bought a coffee grinder attachment fer my stand mixer.
Despite it having pretty good hardened steel burrs (conical), the rest
of the attachment was made from plastic. This put a very strong
static electrical charge on all the coffee grounds and when they came
out of the grinder, they literally "flew" everywhere except in the
collection bag/box/container. The grounds would fly outta the
attachment and even stick to the back of my hands. It was crazy! I
finally hadda toss the grinder attachment, as it was useless.


nb

On 3/2/2016 1:35 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 8:40:59 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 3/1/2016 3:34 PM, Je�us wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:30:39 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/1/2016 3:20 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:15:25 -0500, Brooklyn1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:00:28 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
>>>>>>> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
>>>>>>> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
>>>>>>> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
>>>>>>> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is with the [crap] grinder, NOT the peppercorns.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right. So both my old grinder and new one (which wasn't cheap and
>>>>> bought from a commercial catering supplies store) are crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> As always, you make so much sense when you're drunk.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I used to have a box of cracked pepper. Hoo boy, that went through the
>>>> mill fast and smooth. If I see one of those containers of cracked pepper
>>>> in the big warehouse stores I'm jumping on that one!
>>>
>>> I'd better buy some fresh ones myself when next in town.
>>>
>>>> These days, grinding pepper is a big drag.
>>>
>>> Yes, it's a terrible strain on the wrist.
>>>
>>
>> I don't believe that wrists were meant to be used in such a fashion
>> i.e., twisting. Rotating the wrist is just plain unnatural!
>
> Not every pepper mill requires rotating the wrist. All of mine
> have a handle on top, like this:
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/Pepper-Mill-Imports-Atlas-Brass/dp/B00015USPQ>
>
> That badboy puts out a ton of pepper.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

"Badboy" would be appropriate for that grinder. That badboy might be far
too serious for me.

On 3/2/2016 3:26 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:27:07 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> My intention is to use a coffee mill to grind the crap out of those peppercorns. I feel like sneezing already!
>
> I don't know from personal experience but I have read that using a coffee "grinder", if it's the type with the rotating blade, heats up the spice (or coffee) and does not give as good a result as a mill.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>

Heat is not much of a concern for me. When I start cooking, the heat's
really going to be put to the pepper.

On 3/2/2016 5:41 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 3/1/2016 3:34 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:30:39 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/1/2016 3:20 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:15:25 -0500, Brooklyn1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:00:28 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My trusty grinder seemed to stop grinding recently, so I bought a new
>>>>>>> one yesterday. Well, it too won't grind the peppercorns I have
>>>>>>> here...the very same ones that /used/ to grind just fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I can only assume the problem lies with the peppercorns I have.
>>>>>>> They are fairly old, I can't recall when I bought them but suffice to
>>>>>>> say, well over a year ago. Has anyone else struck this problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is with the [crap] grinder, NOT the peppercorns.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right. So both my old grinder and new one (which wasn't cheap and
>>>>> bought from a commercial catering supplies store) are crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> As always, you make so much sense when you're drunk.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I used to have a box of cracked pepper. Hoo boy, that went through the
>>>> mill fast and smooth. If I see one of those containers of cracked pepper
>>>> in the big warehouse stores I'm jumping on that one!
>>>
>>> I'd better buy some fresh ones myself when next in town.
>>>
>>>> These days, grinding pepper is a big drag.
>>>
>>> Yes, it's a terrible strain on the wrist.
>>>
>>
>> I don't believe that wrists were meant to be used in such a fashion
>> i.e., twisting. Rotating the wrist is just plain unnatural!
>
> Get an electronic one; effortless and completely reliable. I've had
> one for years, one of my favourite kitchen gadgets.
>
> http://www.johnlewis.com/cole-mason-...single-silver-
> electronic-mill/p2181249
>
> Janet UK
>

That looks pretty good. Thanks.

On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 06:56:44 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 05:26:37 -0800 (PST), Helpful person
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:27:07 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> My intention is to use a coffee mill to grind the crap out of those peppercorns. I feel like sneezing already!
>>
>>I don't know from personal experience but I have read that using a coffee "grinder", if it's the type with the rotating blade, heats up the spice (or coffee) and does not give as good a result as a mill.
>
>They should be avoided.

I don't think the little blade coffee grinders run long enough while
grinding spices to warm them up.
Janet US

On 2 Mar 2016 20:35:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-03-02, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> They should be avoided.
>
>Nonsense.
>
>I've used 'em fer yrs. First to grind coffee fer paper filter-cone
>brewing. Later, fer grinding whole spices, which I do often and
>desire a fine powder. I also have spice grinder attachments fer my
>Kenwood stand mixer and they're basically whirlybird-style coffee
>grinder attachments.
>
>The only place a whirlybird-blade grinder is not desirable is for a
>proper expresso coffee grind. Espresso requires an extremely precise
>and uniform grind and motorized grinders that can deliver such a grind
>are quite expensive, typically running between $200-$1200. Some of
>that cost is the hardened steel burrs, both flat and conical. Not
>cheap.

Each to their own, is all I will say here.


>Actually, I bought a coffee grinder attachment fer my stand mixer.
>Despite it having pretty good hardened steel burrs (conical), the rest
>of the attachment was made from plastic. This put a very strong
>static electrical charge on all the coffee grounds and when they came
>out of the grinder, they literally "flew" everywhere except in the
>collection bag/box/container. The grounds would fly outta the
>attachment and even stick to the back of my hands. It was crazy! I
>finally hadda toss the grinder attachment, as it was useless.

Thankfully I've never struck that problem!
I bought an Isomac Granmacinino coffee grinder some eight years ago
and it still works perfectly. Not bad considering I average at least
two double lattes each morning.

On 2016-03-02, Janet B > wrote:

> I don't think the little blade coffee grinders run long enough while
> grinding spices to warm them up.

Actually, they do, but not enough to worry about. Certainly not as
hot (temp) as the dish the spices will eventually end up, in.

nb

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:14:09 -0700, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 06:56:44 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 05:26:37 -0800 (PST), Helpful person
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:27:07 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My intention is to use a coffee mill to grind the crap out of those peppercorns. I feel like sneezing already!
>>>
>>>I don't know from personal experience but I have read that using a coffee "grinder", if it's the type with the rotating blade, heats up the spice (or coffee) and does not give as good a result as a mill.
>>
>>They should be avoided.
>
>I don't think the little blade coffee grinders run long enough while
>grinding spices to warm them up.

I don't think they would either, I just think they do a relatively
poor job of 'grinding'. For spices I prefer my mortar and pestle.
Each to their own...

On 2016-03-02, Jeßus > wrote:

> I bought an Isomac Granmacinino coffee grinder some eight years ago
> and it still works perfectly.

As it should. They are still available:

http://www.coffeeparts.com.au/m-isom...cinino-grinder

> Not bad considering I average at least two double lattes each
> morning.

What espresso machine? I hadda sell mine.

nb

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:14:09 -0700, Janet B >
wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 06:56:44 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 05:26:37 -0800 (PST), Helpful person
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:27:07 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My intention is to use a coffee mill to grind the crap out of those peppercorns. I feel like sneezing already!
> >>
> >>I don't know from personal experience but I have read that using a coffee "grinder", if it's the type with the rotating blade, heats up the spice (or coffee) and does not give as good a result as a mill.
> >
> >They should be avoided.
>
> I don't think the little blade coffee grinders run long enough while
> grinding spices to warm them up.
> Janet US

That issue makes no sense to me. Why does it matter if they're warm
or not when they've already been toasted or are going to be cooked
anyway?

--

sf

On 2 Mar 2016 21:50:28 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-03-02, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> I bought an Isomac Granmacinino coffee grinder some eight years ago
>> and it still works perfectly.
>
>As it should. They are still available:
>
>http://www.coffeeparts.com.au/m-isom...cinino-grinder
>
>> Not bad considering I average at least two double lattes each
>> morning.
>
>What espresso machine?

A good old Rancilio Silvia.

>I hadda sell mine.

Oh, that's a shame

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 4:14:18 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
>
> I don't think the little blade coffee grinders run long enough while
> grinding spices to warm them up.
> Janet US

You're missing the point. It's not the coffee grinder that warms up it's the granules as they are hit by the blade.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 2016-03-02, Jeßus > wrote:

> On 2 Mar 2016 21:50:28 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>>What espresso machine?

> A good old Rancilio Silvia.

DOH! If I were a color, it would be green.

>>I hadda sell mine.

> Oh, that's a shame

But, I'm saving fer a Silvie.

I already gotta Super Jolly (needs some repair, but all there).
Currently, gotta resort to moka-pot coffee (Bialetti) until I can
score a used Silvie. I'll live.

nb