On 11/25/2015 11:43 AM, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
>>
>> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
>> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
>> up.
>
> I've been meaning to try that sometime. My little processor, a Ninja
> Express, should do a decent job with a few pulses.
>
I've tried that, but I don't like the texture.

On 11/24/2015 2:27 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:46:10 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:14:50 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> There's no exact recipe for 'kotleti' (Russian burgers), I usually use
>>> ground beef but chicken works well. Season how you like but no pre
>>> ground mystery meat.
>>
>> What's the penalty for using ground meat from the grocery
>> store?
>
> You get under charged for dreck.
>
"My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me."

Casa Boner, Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:37:53 -0600
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On 11/24/2015 6:06 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 11/24/15 12:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> What's the penalty for using ground meat from the grocery
>> store?
>
> You mean apart from low quality (flavor and texture) and potential
> health hazards?
>
> -- Larry
>
>
"My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me."

Casa Boner, Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:37:53 -0600
Message-ID: >
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ID: 47846596.

On 11/25/2015 12:23 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 11/25/2015 11:43 AM, Gary wrote:
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
>>> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
>>> up.
>>
>> I've been meaning to try that sometime. My little processor, a Ninja
>> Express, should do a decent job with a few pulses.
>>
> I've tried that, but I don't like the texture.
"My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me."

Casa Boner, Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:37:53 -0600
Message-ID: >
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Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

On 11/25/2015 12:07 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:43:56 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
>>> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
>>> up.
>>
>> I've been meaning to try that sometime. My little processor, a Ninja
>> Express, should do a decent job with a few pulses.
>
> That's all it takes, don't overdo it.
>
"My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me."

Casa Boner, Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:37:53 -0600
Message-ID: >
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Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

On 11/25/2015 11:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 11/25/2015 12:39 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In the past year, DH has lost 160 pounds; we weren't
>>> eating a lot of beef.
>>>
>>
>> I know someone that lost that much too. Divorce.
>
> Ouch!
>
>
"My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me."

Casa Boner, Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:37:53 -0600
Message-ID: >
--
Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

On 11/24/2015 2:53 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:46:10 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:14:50 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> There's no exact recipe for 'kotleti' (Russian burgers), I usually use
>>>> ground beef but chicken works well. Season how you like but no pre
>>>> ground mystery meat.
>>>
>>> What's the penalty for using ground meat from the grocery
>>> store?
>>
>> You get over charged for dreck.
>
> Is that true? I don't know but then I don't need to find out.
>
"My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me."

Casa Boner, Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:37:53 -0600
Message-ID: >
--
Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 14:23:07 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 11/25/2015 11:43 AM, Gary wrote:
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
> >> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
> >> up.
> >
> > I've been meaning to try that sometime. My little processor, a Ninja
> > Express, should do a decent job with a few pulses.
> >
> I've tried that, but I don't like the texture.

It's more like a traditional mince than ground meat that goes through
the grinder 2 or 3 times. It has it's place.

--

sf

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:37:32 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > "pltrgyst" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On 11/24/15 12:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > >> What's the penalty for using ground meat from the grocery
> > >> store?
> > >
> > > You mean apart from low quality (flavor and texture) and potential health
> > > hazards?
> >
> > I am very fussy about my minced meat. I like to mince it and either cook or
> > freeze it immediately. The idea that it is sitting around half a day on
> > some counter ... Then there are those butchers who mince it for you. Who
> > knows what is in that mincer before your meat goes through it.
>
> That does sound a bit tinhatly to me.

Makes you wonder.

--

sf

On 2015-11-25 1:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/25/2015 12:39 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>
>> In the past year, DH has lost 160 pounds; we weren't
>> eating a lot of beef.
>>
>
> I know someone that lost that much too. Divorce.
>


LOL

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 03:49:14 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 4:27:55 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:46:10 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:14:50 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1
> wrote: >> >> There's no exact recipe for 'kotleti' (Russian
> burgers), I usually use >> >> ground beef but chicken works well.
> Season how you like but no pre >> >> ground mystery meat.
> >> >
> >> >What's the penalty for using ground meat from the grocery
> >> >store?
> >>
> >> You get over charged for dreck.
> >
> > If memory serves, I have twice in the past year gone to the grocery
> > store and purchased 1/2 pound of ground beef. That's it. My
> > entire home use of ground meat in a year has been 1 pound. I believe
> > 1/4 pound is still in the freezer. It's just not worth grinding my
> > own.
> >
> > Yes, I have a grinder. It hasn't been used in years.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
> up.

Managed to work out your so you don't get a basically pink/red paste?
I like the distinct grind and generally the fatter blade grind (called
chili grind by some).
Carol

Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > If memory serves, I have twice in the past year gone to the grocery
> > store and purchased 1/2 pound of ground beef. That's it. My
> > entire home use of ground meat in a year has been 1 pound. I believe
> > 1/4 pound is still in the freezer. It's just not worth grinding my
> > own.
> >
> > Yes, I have a grinder. It hasn't been used in years.
>
> Only one pound per year. Really? I don't eat much ground meat myself
> but certainly more than that. A grinder would be nice here but I
> wouldn't use one enough to warrant the price. Sheldon pointed me to
> one for about $165 a few years ago. Decent price but not for as much
> as I would use one.

I just did up 40lbs bone in (chicken necks, backs and leg quarters)
with a neighbor here. While she finished bagging, I washed the machine
down and then we cut and ground 20lbs pork. We were done in a little
over an hour.

Key thing is we have need (pet feeding and other) for one and we get a
better (safer) meat. Your grocer may be fine, but if they get it
pre-ground from some mega facility, your chances go up that something
may be wrong with it.

Carol

--

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:42:27 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 03:49:14 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 4:27:55 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:46:10 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:14:50 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1
>> wrote: >> >> There's no exact recipe for 'kotleti' (Russian
>> burgers), I usually use >> >> ground beef but chicken works well.
>> Season how you like but no pre >> >> ground mystery meat.
>> >> >
>> >> >What's the penalty for using ground meat from the grocery
>> >> >store?
>> >>
>> >> You get over charged for dreck.
>> >
>> > If memory serves, I have twice in the past year gone to the grocery
>> > store and purchased 1/2 pound of ground beef. That's it. My
>> > entire home use of ground meat in a year has been 1 pound. I believe
>> > 1/4 pound is still in the freezer. It's just not worth grinding my
>> > own.
>> >
>> > Yes, I have a grinder. It hasn't been used in years.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
>> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
>> up.
>
>Managed to work out your so you don't get a basically pink/red paste?
>I like the distinct grind and generally the fatter blade grind (called
>chili grind by some).
> Carol

Assuming you mean, how do I get decent minced beef in the FP - I
render it to cubes about 1 1/2 inches square, toss in the FP and pulse
twice maybe three times and its done. Do not run the FP - also I
suppose you should only do enough for one, that's all I am doing.

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 10:06:59 AM UTC-6, Hidalgo wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> > They use high quality sanitary beef
>
> IS that served with a sanitary "napkin", freakshow?

I took the college course on Foodservice Sanitation when I worked at the donut shop. Got an A in it too!! I'm a food sanitation nazi!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe wrote:
> I'm a food sanitation nazi!
>
> John Kuthe...

Godwins law.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:19:04 -0400, wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:42:27 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 03:49:14 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 4:27:55 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> >> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:46:10 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:14:50 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1
>>> wrote: >> >> There's no exact recipe for 'kotleti' (Russian
>>> burgers), I usually use >> >> ground beef but chicken works well.
>>> Season how you like but no pre >> >> ground mystery meat.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >What's the penalty for using ground meat from the grocery
>>> >> >store?
>>> >>
>>> >> You get over charged for dreck.
>>> >
>>> > If memory serves, I have twice in the past year gone to the grocery
>>> > store and purchased 1/2 pound of ground beef. That's it. My
>>> > entire home use of ground meat in a year has been 1 pound. I believe
>>> > 1/4 pound is still in the freezer. It's just not worth grinding my
>>> > own.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, I have a grinder. It hasn't been used in years.
>>> >
>>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
>>> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
>>> up.
>>
>>Managed to work out your so you don't get a basically pink/red paste?
>>I like the distinct grind and generally the fatter blade grind (called
>>chili grind by some).
>> Carol
>
>Assuming you mean, how do I get decent minced beef in the FP - I
>render it to cubes about 1 1/2 inches square, toss in the FP and pulse
>twice maybe three times and its done. Do not run the FP - also I
>suppose you should only do enough for one, that's all I am doing.

make sure the meat is cold. I've done 20 pounds or more. Just cube
the meat, keep it cold and only pulse the machine.
Janet US

On 11/25/15 6:56 AM, wrote:

> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
> up.

Sorry, but that's not true for everybody. A food processor tears the
meat, creates wildly unevenly sized chunks with more surface area, and
is very difficult to time repeatedly for a particular result.

A decent grinder has plates for a wide range of sizes of meat "pellets",
produces a much more consistent result, and is perfectly repeatable. And
it can easily grind twenty pounds of meat in minutes.

Plus my grinder is considerably easier to clean and takes up less room
in the dishwasher than my food processor, even though it has one more
piece -- 5 vs. 4.

As an example, chili made with a food processor is just horrible. Chili
made with my largest grinder plate, with 1/2 inch holes, saves me a
half-hour of cubing beef by hand, and is terrific.

FWIW, for about ten years, I've been using a Maverick, from pleasanthill
grains.com:
http://pleasanthillgrain.com/maverick-5501-meat-grinder
$82 and well worth every penny.

-- Larry

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 18:26:10 -0700, Barbara Llorente maquerading as
Groupkilla > wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>> I'm a food sanitation nazi!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>Coleslaw.

What on earth are you two nattering about now? This is the perfect
example of why groups should be moderated.

--
Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 18:26:10 -0700, Groupkilla >
wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>> I'm a food sanitation nazi!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>Godwins law.

What on earth are you two nattering about now? This is the perfect
example of why groups should be moderated.

--
Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 18:29:50 -0700, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:19:04 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:42:27 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 03:49:14 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 4:27:55 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> >> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:46:10 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:14:50 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1
>>>> wrote: >> >> There's no exact recipe for 'kotleti' (Russian
>>>> burgers), I usually use >> >> ground beef but chicken works well.
>>>> Season how you like but no pre >> >> ground mystery meat.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >What's the penalty for using ground meat from the grocery
>>>> >> >store?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You get over charged for dreck.
>>>> >
>>>> > If memory serves, I have twice in the past year gone to the grocery
>>>> > store and purchased 1/2 pound of ground beef. That's it. My
>>>> > entire home use of ground meat in a year has been 1 pound. I believe
>>>> > 1/4 pound is still in the freezer. It's just not worth grinding my
>>>> > own.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, I have a grinder. It hasn't been used in years.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
>>>> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
>>>> up.
>>>
>>>Managed to work out your so you don't get a basically pink/red paste?
>>>I like the distinct grind and generally the fatter blade grind (called
>>>chili grind by some).
>>> Carol
>>
>>Assuming you mean, how do I get decent minced beef in the FP - I
>>render it to cubes about 1 1/2 inches square, toss in the FP and pulse
>>twice maybe three times and its done. Do not run the FP - also I
>>suppose you should only do enough for one, that's all I am doing.
>
>make sure the meat is cold. I've done 20 pounds or more. Just cube
>the meat, keep it cold and only pulse the machine.
>Janet US

What on earth are you two nattering about now? This is the perfect
example of why groups should be moderated.

--
Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 22:10:44 -0500, pltrgyst > wrote:

>On 11/25/15 6:56 AM, wrote:
>
>> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
>> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
>> up.
>
>Sorry, but that's not true for everybody. A food processor tears the
>meat, creates wildly unevenly sized chunks with more surface area, and
>is very difficult to time repeatedly for a particular result.
>
>A decent grinder has plates for a wide range of sizes of meat "pellets",
>produces a much more consistent result, and is perfectly repeatable. And
>it can easily grind twenty pounds of meat in minutes.
>
>Plus my grinder is considerably easier to clean and takes up less room
>in the dishwasher than my food processor, even though it has one more
>piece -- 5 vs. 4.
>
>As an example, chili made with a food processor is just horrible. Chili
>made with my largest grinder plate, with 1/2 inch holes, saves me a
>half-hour of cubing beef by hand, and is terrific.
>
>FWIW, for about ten years, I've been using a Maverick, from pleasanthill
>grains.com:
>http://pleasanthillgrain.com/maverick-5501-meat-grinder
>$82 and well worth every penny.
>
>-- Larry

What on earth are you two nattering about now? This is the perfect
example of why groups should be moderated.

--
Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 17:24:29 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 10:06:59 AM UTC-6, Hidalgo wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>> > They use high quality sanitary beef
>>
>> IS that served with a sanitary "napkin", freakshow?
>
>I took the college course on Foodservice Sanitation when I worked at the donut shop. Got an A in it too!! I'm a food sanitation nazi!
>
>John Kuthe...

What on earth are you two nattering about now? This is the perfect
example of why groups should be moderated.

--
Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:19:04 -0400, wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:42:27 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 03:49:14 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 4:27:55 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> >> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:46:10 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:14:50 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1
>>> wrote: >> >> There's no exact recipe for 'kotleti' (Russian
>>> burgers), I usually use >> >> ground beef but chicken works well.
>>> Season how you like but no pre >> >> ground mystery meat.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >What's the penalty for using ground meat from the grocery
>>> >> >store?
>>> >>
>>> >> You get over charged for dreck.
>>> >
>>> > If memory serves, I have twice in the past year gone to the grocery
>>> > store and purchased 1/2 pound of ground beef. That's it. My
>>> > entire home use of ground meat in a year has been 1 pound. I believe
>>> > 1/4 pound is still in the freezer. It's just not worth grinding my
>>> > own.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, I have a grinder. It hasn't been used in years.
>>> >
>>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
>>> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
>>> up.
>>
>>Managed to work out your so you don't get a basically pink/red paste?
>>I like the distinct grind and generally the fatter blade grind (called
>>chili grind by some).
>> Carol
>
>Assuming you mean, how do I get decent minced beef in the FP - I
>render it to cubes about 1 1/2 inches square, toss in the FP and pulse
>twice maybe three times and its done. Do not run the FP - also I
>suppose you should only do enough for one, that's all I am doing.

What on earth are you two nattering about now? This is the perfect
example of why groups should be moderated.

--
Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

"pltrgyst" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/25/15 6:56 AM, wrote:
>
>> Me too but if I want some then I would throw in the food processor,
>> mine does a job that's just as efficient as a grinder with less clean
>> up.
>
> Sorry, but that's not true for everybody. A food processor tears the meat,
> creates wildly unevenly sized chunks with more surface area, and is very
> difficult to time repeatedly for a particular result.
>
> A decent grinder has plates for a wide range of sizes of meat "pellets",
> produces a much more consistent result, and is perfectly repeatable. And
> it can easily grind twenty pounds of meat in minutes.
>
> Plus my grinder is considerably easier to clean and takes up less room in
> the dishwasher than my food processor, even though it has one more
> piece -- 5 vs. 4.
>
> As an example, chili made with a food processor is just horrible. Chili
> made with my largest grinder plate, with 1/2 inch holes, saves me a
> half-hour of cubing beef by hand, and is terrific.
>
> FWIW, for about ten years, I've been using a Maverick, from pleasanthill
> grains.com:
> http://pleasanthillgrain.com/maverick-5501-meat-grinder
> $82 and well worth every penny.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 5:52:20 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:

> Key thing is we have need (pet feeding and other) for one and we get a
> better (safer) meat. Your grocer may be fine, but if they get it
> pre-ground from some mega facility, your chances go up that something
> may be wrong with it.

Ew. Yes. The meatcutters at my grocery store are behind a big window.
I can see the grinder in use.

Although I can't know what I might get in a restaurant, I wouldn't
knowingly buy meat that was ground at one of those mega facilities.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 5:52:20 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Key thing is we have need (pet feeding and other) for one and we get a
> > better (safer) meat. Your grocer may be fine, but if they get it
> > pre-ground from some mega facility, your chances go up that something
> > may be wrong with it.
>
> Ew. Yes. The meatcutters at my grocery store are behind a big window.
> I can see the grinder in use.

Same with mine, Cindy. My store processes large chunks of meat and
ground beef is made right there. I have no problem with theirs.

Good sale on ground beef at my regular store tomorrow thru next
Tuesday. $2.59 for ground beef (73% lean). That's the lowest price
I've seen here in years.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> In the past year, DH has lost 160 pounds; we weren't
> eating a lot of beef.

I doubt the beef was the issue so much. Sounds like he wasn't eating
a lot of anything. That averages out to almost losing 1/2 pound
per day. Sounds like very low calories and lots of exercise to me.

Congratulations to him though! He's got a strong will and definite
bragging rights. Way to go, Cindy's DH. You are da man!

:-D

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 11/25/2015 12:39 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >
> > In the past year, DH has lost 160 pounds; we weren't
> > eating a lot of beef.
> >
>
> I know someone that lost that much too. Divorce.

LOL! Long ago I also lost about 135 pounds that way. Plus lost
some weight in my bank account at the same time. Nicely though,
that nagging pain in my butt for a few years also went away.

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:57:47 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> In the past year, DH has lost 160 pounds; we weren't
>> eating a lot of beef.
>
>I doubt the beef was the issue so much. Sounds like he wasn't eating
>a lot of anything. That averages out to almost losing 1/2 pound
>per day. Sounds like very low calories and lots of exercise to me.
>
>Congratulations to him though! He's got a strong will and definite
>bragging rights. Way to go, Cindy's DH. You are da man!
>
> :-D

I'm happy for him - I'd like to lose maybe 5-10lbs before my grandsons
wedding in Jamaica next spring. Mostly because I want to use a long
white linen skirt I already have and I look 'bulgy' in it at the
moment. That is the hardest weight to lose. I walk nearly every
day, eat very little meat, some lamb and some chicken but not
necessarily every meal. I have the feeling I will need to starve to
do it After Xmas.

pltrgyst wrote:
>
> FWIW, for about ten years, I've been using a Maverick, from pleasanthill
> grains.com:
> http://pleasanthillgrain.com/maverick-5501-meat-grinder
> $82 and well worth every penny.

So you've been using this one for 10 years? That sounds much more
into my range of maybe buying one. I would love to have one but my
annual use just wouldn't be worth it. It's half the price of the nifty
one Sheldon recommended though.

wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:57:47 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> In the past year, DH has lost 160 pounds; we weren't
> >> eating a lot of beef.
> >
> >I doubt the beef was the issue so much. Sounds like he wasn't eating
> >a lot of anything. That averages out to almost losing 1/2 pound
> >per day. Sounds like very low calories and lots of exercise to me.
> >
> >Congratulations to him though! He's got a strong will and definite
> >bragging rights. Way to go, Cindy's DH. You are da man!
> >
> > :-D
>
> I'm happy for him - I'd like to lose maybe 5-10lbs before my grandsons
> wedding in Jamaica next spring. Mostly because I want to use a long
> white linen skirt I already have and I look 'bulgy' in it at the
> moment. That is the hardest weight to lose. I walk nearly every
> day, eat very little meat, some lamb and some chicken but not
> necessarily every meal. I have the feeling I will need to starve to
> do it After Xmas.

Count calories and try to walk faster (aerobic exercise).

Speaking of meat, Farm Fresh has their ground beef on sale starting
tomorrow and until and including Tuesday. $2.59 a pound. good deal.

On 2015-11-26, pltrgyst > wrote:
>
> Plus my grinder is considerably easier to clean and takes up less room
> in the dishwasher than my food processor.....

Lordy, what is this? "Can't live without a dishwasher" dot com?

I thought this was rec.food.cooking, not
can't.cook.unless.it.has.an.electrical.plug.

nb

On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 8:58:33 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > In the past year, DH has lost 160 pounds; we weren't
> > eating a lot of beef.
>
> I doubt the beef was the issue so much. Sounds like he wasn't eating
> a lot of anything. That averages out to almost losing 1/2 pound
> per day. Sounds like very low calories and lots of exercise to me.

No, he wasn't eating a lot of anything, and I barely eat any beef,
although I'll have a few bites when he asks for steak.

> Congratulations to him though! He's got a strong will and definite
> bragging rights. Way to go, Cindy's DH. You are da man!

Yes, he is. I've lost about 20 pounds in the same amount of time,
but I don't have as far to go, so I'm just adjusting by eating
less carbs and more veggies, rather than the extremes to which
he is going. He's been under medical supervision, with regular
blood tests to make sure his near-starvation isn't completely
destroying his liver, heart, etc.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 10:12:42 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-11-26, pltrgyst > wrote:
> >
> > Plus my grinder is considerably easier to clean and takes up less room
> > in the dishwasher than my food processor.....
>
> Lordy, what is this? "Can't live without a dishwasher" dot com?
>
> I thought this was rec.food.cooking, not
> can't.cook.unless.it.has.an.electrical.plug.
>

Funny you should mention it. My dishwasher is working right now,
while I laze about reading rec.food.cooking. Sure, I could do
without a dishwasher, but why should I? It uses less water than
I would hand washing. My water bill is already high enough.

Cindy Hamilton

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> pltrgyst wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, for about ten years, I've been using a Maverick, from pleasanthill
>> grains.com:
>> http://pleasanthillgrain.com/maverick-5501-meat-grinder
>> $82 and well worth every penny.
>
> So you've been using this one for 10 years? That sounds much more
> into my range of maybe buying one. I would love to have one but my
> annual use just wouldn't be worth it. It's half the price of the nifty
> one Sheldon recommended though.

If you don't need one very often, you don't have to have an electric one.
Hand ones are very cheap:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premier-Hous...ds=meat+mincer

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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:45:03 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 10:12:42 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>> On 2015-11-26, pltrgyst > wrote:
>> >
>> > Plus my grinder is considerably easier to clean and takes up less room
>> > in the dishwasher than my food processor.....
>>
>> Lordy, what is this? "Can't live without a dishwasher" dot com?
>>
>> I thought this was rec.food.cooking, not
>> can't.cook.unless.it.has.an.electrical.plug.
>>
>
>Funny you should mention it. My dishwasher is working right now,
>while I laze about reading rec.food.cooking. Sure, I could do
>without a dishwasher, but why should I? It uses less water than
>I would hand washing. My water bill is already high enough.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I'm with you - loathe washing dishes so if something can't go in the
dishwasher, doesn't live here

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> If you don't need one very often, you don't have to have an electric one.
> Hand ones are very cheap:
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premier-Hous...ds=meat+mincer

That looks good enough for me as little as I would grind meat. I'll
have to translate that later into USD. :-D

I'm about to cook early TG dinner. Will only take about 1 hour once I
start as all preparations are done now.

- "Oven fried" chicken -
- each piece dipped into an egg wash (egg & bit of milk)
- then dredged into flour containing sage, salt and pepper

- baked sweet potato with butter, s&p
- broccoli with cheese
- a bit of homemade stuffing (sadly, no whole chicken to cook it in)

- for dessert, a thick cold slice of cranberry-apple cake.
I made that yesterday evening. Dangerous food...it's so moist
and rich, I always eat too much. ;-o

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> If you don't need one very often, you don't have to have an electric one.
>> Hand ones are very cheap:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premier-Hous...ds=meat+mincer
>
> That looks good enough for me as little as I would grind meat. I'll
> have to translate that later into USD. :-D

Look around you can get them even cheaper


>
> I'm about to cook early TG dinner. Will only take about 1 hour once I
> start as all preparations are done now.
>
> - "Oven fried" chicken -
> - each piece dipped into an egg wash (egg & bit of milk)
> - then dredged into flour containing sage, salt and pepper
>
> - baked sweet potato with butter, s&p
> - broccoli with cheese
> - a bit of homemade stuffing (sadly, no whole chicken to cook it in)
>
> - for dessert, a thick cold slice of cranberry-apple cake.
> I made that yesterday evening. Dangerous food...it's so moist
> and rich, I always eat too much. ;-o

Aww enjoy yourself. It is a holiday))

Have a good one)



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On 11/26/15 11:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> If you don't need one very often, you don't have to have an electric
> one. Hand ones are very cheap:
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premier-Hous...ds=meat+mincer

Yes, but you should be sure that it either:

1) comes with all the choices of grinding plates you might need, usually
1/8", 1/4", 3/8", and possibly larger; o

or

2) uses standard plates, which come in several diameters.

-- Larry

notbob wrote:
>pltrgyst wrote:
>>
>> Plus my grinder is considerably easier to clean and takes up less room
>> in the dishwasher than my food processor.....
>
>Lordy, what is this?

Sounds like pltrgyst is Full Of DooDoo... he showed a web site of a
grinder with an aluminum housing, those go in the dishwasher and you
can toss them in the trash. Anyone can pull an ad off the net, if he
really owned that toys r us grinder he'd show a photo of it being used
to grind meat.

But fact is it takes me less than three minutes to clean my meat
grinder washing it by hand, less time than to clean the bowl, cutting
board, knife, and and what other implements are used. An electric
meat grinder consists of the body, and then four small parts... the
auger, front nut, plate, and blade. You don't wash the motor. Takes
more time and effort to clean a stupid plastic food processor, that
can't grind meat anyway. A food processor is fine if one wants to
*emulsify* meat into paste for making bologna and tube steak, but it
can't grind anything.

My recommendation is to buy a grinder that's larger than what you
think you'll need, small throated grinders smear meat, ruin it... meat
is expensive, it's plain idiotic to buy a cheapo toys r us grinder
when a measly ten pounds of meat costs more.

I own two meat grinders, I upgraded to a larger one because a small
grinder ruins fattier meats like pork shoulder and chuck. A meat
grinder is a good investment, hardly a week passes I don't grind
something; bread crumbs, cracker meal, nutmeats, shreds cheese, preps
all kinds of veggies, especially does a great job with spuds 'n onions
for latkes... and makes meat loaf a breeze, no more knife work hacking
veggies... my least favorite chore is mincing a whole fistful of
parsley (for meat loaf, meat-a-balles, etc.), a meat grinder minces
parsley beautifully and faster than you can rinse it, stems and all...
why toss away the stems, you paid for them. Yoose need corn flake
crumbs, graham cracker crumbs, matzo meal, sody cracker meal, no
problem, in ten minutes you'll have more than you can use.. yoose
wanna bake carrot cake but don't feel like all that grating... grind
them to perfection. All yoose who like fish cakes, will grind any
fish in no time. I shouldn't even mention sau-seege... and no, you
don't need to stuff casings, mostly I make bulk sau-seege for patties.
For yoose who like breakfast sausage make up 5-10 pounds patties for
your freezer... for the first time in your life you'll know what/who's
in it... I can gaurantee there's roach/rodent and worse in your
sausage from your favorite breakfast joint that serves the cheapest
no-name crap.