Roy wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 5:08:25 AM UTC-6, Xeno wrote:
>> On 28/10/2015 9:37 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am fine with my phone.
>>>>
>>>> Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.
>>>
>>> As I said, everything here is online now. There are phone numbers and
>>> if you call them, you are directed to the website. There is likely
>>> nothing I can do about the boat or trailer. I don't think he is in
>>> violation of anything.
>>
>> If you don't check up, how will you ever know?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Xeno
>
> Julie loves to suffer...its what she lives for.
> =====
>

We are going to have to agree on that one.

But she also craves attention - negative or positive, doesn't matter.

Just PAY ATTENTION TO HER NOW!!!!!

dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 6:57:22 PM UTC-10, Hot Broth wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 10/27/2015 12:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the
>>>>>>> grease.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
>>>>>> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sf
>>>>>
>>>>> Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most
>>>>> folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high
>>>>> speed conduit for streaming on demand.
>>>>
>>>> I did that over 6 years ago!! TV, who needs it!! Pay TV that's more
>>>> streaming ADVERTISING than banal programming? Not ME kids!! **** that!
>>>>
>>>> I Killed My Television too!
>>>
>>> My guess is that you snuck up on it and whacked it on the side with an
>>> aluminum baseball bat! Am I right. Am I right?!?!
>>
>>
>> Purchased at Wal Mart and made in...wait for it...CHINA!
>>
>> ;-)
>
>
> Killing a TV with a Chinese baseball bat - that's like the future murdering the past.
>


Wow - GOOD ONE!!!!

Sqwertz wrote:
> A lot of people in Seattle probably
> don't need Prime


What they need even less is a misogynistic woman-stalker like YOU, virus!

In article >,
says...
>
> On 10/28/2015 10:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > "S Viemeister" > wrote
> >> I've had a few delivery problems with AmazonUK - they've been using
> >> Hermes for some of my shipments. I've been notified that an item is
> >> 'out for delivery', from _Dundee_! We're on the north coast...stuff
> >> from the Hermes Dundee depot either gets lost, or damaged, or doesn't
> >> arrive for more than a week after the 'out for delivery' notice.
> >> Out to lunch, more like.
> >> Lakeland has been using Hermes, too.
> > That is odd because we have local Hermes delivery and they are superb!
> > I think your problem is with the Hermes connection at your local end.
> > You might like to complain to Amazon about that service!
> >
> But you're in the Central Belt - I'm in the Highlands. Royal Mail have
> always been reliable for us, but Hermes? They barely know we exist.
> I've complained to both Amazon and Lakeland, but the general attitude
> seems to be that we northerners are lucky to get any delivery at all.
> In fact, there are many sellers who will not ship to _any_ IV post
> codes, and some who do, add on an enormous extra charge - as much as
> they add for delivery to Shetland, Orkney, or the Western Isles.
>
> A few years ago, I had picked out a rather nice new couch/sofa, but the
> shipping charges were as much as the cost of the couch. So I bought a
> different one from M&S, who included delivery in their price.

We're in another "excluded" Highlands and Islands postcode. John Lewis
also deliver anywhere with no remote surcharges; free for purchases
over £50.


Janet UK

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> > Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook?
>>>>
>>>> Now you're attacking Bruce?
>>>
>>> You must be the last person here who has never noticed "Bruce" never
>>> talks about food, meals and cooking. "His" sole function is riding shot-
>>> gun on Ophelia's broken down bandwagon.
>>
>> I have noticed that he's not mean.
>
> You could never say that about her, eh? She is never anything else.!

Yep.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 20:19:32 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now you're attacking Bruce?
>>>
>>> Bruce is about as useful as a festering zit here. He's just here for
>>> the drama, kinda like you. You two feed each other.
>>>
>>> Speaking of which, I think your month of freedom is up. You've been
>>> flooding this group with more than usual nonsense lately so it's time
>>> to trim more of the noise.
>>>
>>>> I made pizza tonight...
>>>
>>> And there you go again turning the discussion back to you.
>>
>> So? Pizza is food. No? I just ate the rest of mine and also some of
>> those canned baby pears. I won't be buying those again. They were cute
>> but certainly not worth the expense.
>
> I am curious now. Is squertz saying that every time he mentions food, he
> is turning the discussion back to himself??

Apparently so.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I just wish I could buy the items that I have been buying from Amazon
>> Fresh but I have been to every store there is within about a 12 mile
>> radius and nobody carries them.
>
> Have you been on line to see if any other places carry them?

The only other online place that sells fresh food is Safeway and they don't.

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> >
>> >> > Of course, once they have people hooked, they raise the
>> >> > prices...it's
>> >> > the
>> >> > way of the world.
>> >>
>> >> But they have lost their customers now so it's not working for them.
>> >
>> > Customers like you were the loss-leader start-up guineapigs they used
>> > to practise and refine the fresh ordering/delivery system. Your penny-
>> > saver, last-minute-small-order style of online shopping probably cost
>> > more to service and deliver than any profit Amazon made from you.
>> >
>> > Having built a large enough customer base of affluent big spenders they
>> > have no further incentive to keep loss-making small-purse shoppers on
>> > board ; it makes more sense to get rid of you.
>>
>> And yet, that's not happening.
>
> It's exactly what's happening, dopey.
>
>
> I checked again last night. Customers are
>> leaving in droves.
>
> Yes; the ones who can't or won't pay the monthly fee.
>
> The monthly fee is the device Amazon uses to sort the customers into
> economic groups, so that only affluent high spenders will use the
> service. Then they can charge what they like for the fresh goods,
> because they will have a customer base that has shown it's rich enough
> not to care.

People are leaving in droves. They might have a small customer base in the
end. I really don't know.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> The monthly fee is the device Amazon uses to sort the customers into
>> economic groups, so that only affluent high spenders will use the
>> service. Then they can charge what they like for the fresh goods,
>> because they will have a customer base that has shown it's rich enough
>> not to care.
>
> My business is the "high priced spread" and most of my customers are
> the wealthier side of society. Not all are rich but certainly
> mid-upper middle-class then up to even a few billionaires.
>
> I've never known any one of them to be "rich enough not to care."
> Every one loves a sale or a coupon. Just because they have the money
> doesn't mean they don't care. Maybe THIS is why they DO have money -
> they don't waste it. heheh
>
> The owner is the 3rd richest guy in the USA and the 5th richest in the
> world. Personal net worth at $55 billion. He has room to experiment
> and see if he can gouge more money out of buyers.
>
> I suspect Ed might be correct. You pay the fee then forget about it
> for 11 months and think you are getting great deals. Julie and others
> will quit but many others will pay. Personally, I have a feeling that
> they will back off (at least reduce) this annual fee once they see an
> updated quarterly report or 2.

I would never pay a fee that high and forget. I don't even like to pay the
$99 they now charge for Prime. And you are right. Many wealthy people did
get that way because they don't spend a lot of money.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:20:46 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Janet wrote:
>>>
>>> The monthly fee is the device Amazon uses to sort the customers into
>>> economic groups, so that only affluent high spenders will use the
>>> service. Then they can charge what they like for the fresh goods,
>>> because they will have a customer base that has shown it's rich enough
>>> not to care.
>>
> snip
>>
>>I suspect Ed might be correct. You pay the fee then forget about it
>>for 11 months and think you are getting great deals. Julie and others
>>will quit but many others will pay.
> snip
>
> It works out to about $16 per month. If you use it, why not pay?
> Amazon put a pencil to it and that amount is what they need to provide
> the service. I can't get a mattress or a load of gravel or other
> stuff delivered for free. It costs money to deliver. Julie talks
> about the time and gas money she will spend if she doesn't use
> delivery service. Hello! Those things apply to businesses as well.
> Janet is also right about the trial period identifying customers that
> are not profitable. Those are the people who are complaining and
> saying that they are leaving.
> Janet US

I do understand getting a large item delivered for a fee. That's to be
expected. But Amazon is already sending out tons of things for the $99
Prime fee. Why charge that much more for groceries?

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 5:24:07 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 10:15:40 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>> >> > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the
>> >> > > > grease.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the
>> >> > > price
>> >> > > and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > >
>> >> > > sf
>> >> >
>> >> > Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most
>> >> > folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high
>> >> > speed conduit for streaming on demand.
>> >>
>> >> Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
>> >> they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
>> >> an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
>> >> me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
>> >> a middle man.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> sf
>> >
>> > I agree, nothing is free. What I'm saying is that traditional cable is
>> > going to be left out of the loop unless they can evolve. These are the
>> > days when people will be looking to disconnect from these old
>> > services -
>> > telephone, cable, even electricity.
>> >
>> > http://www.techhive.com/article/2996...ee-roku-3.html
>>
>> Not me. I don't want to give up my landline. I hate cell phones. Hate
>> them! Rather necessary these days but I'll keep mine only for when I
>> need
>> it. I'm fine with cable too. Hate dish and don't want to watch stuff on
>> my
>> computer, phone or tablet. Also don't care about On Demand.
>
> Yeah right - next you'll be saying that you don't care about Facebook and
> Twitter.

I do Facebook but not Twitter. I did sign up for it because the school
asked us to. Never figured it out.

On 10/28/2015 5:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:51:24 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Everything is a judgment here, I can just see a few of these posters
>>>> taking
>>>> time to scream out obscenities every few minutes when cooking their
>>>> *perfect* meals just to stay in practice for this newsgoup. LOL
>>>
>>> +1 Thinking of the inevitable diatribe that comes up from certain
>>> individuals every time some innocent says they made "boneless pork
>>> ribs" (or whatever the term is) for dinner.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sf
>>
>> Always, no matter what is cooked, how it's cooked, ingredients, etc.
>> someone has something negative to say about it and not just negative
>> in some cases, but just plain hateful. At some point people start to
>> think why bother.
>
> ... and then you post a pic and somebody sneers at it ...
>
>
I have a thick enough skin that I don't get bothered by it. I think many
are the same way. To be honest, and maybe it's because I just don't read
here as much as I used to, I don't even pay attention to the negative
posts about food. The way I see it is everyone has their own taste, what
we post about food is subject to those tastes so if someone doesn't like
it, it is what it is. Doesn't bother me and I wish it wouldn't bother
others enough to keep talking about it. It's boring.

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Cheryl

On 10/28/2015 5:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 10/28/2015 10:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "S Viemeister" > wrote
>>> I've had a few delivery problems with AmazonUK - they've been using
>>> Hermes for some of my shipments. I've been notified that an item is
>>> 'out for delivery', from _Dundee_! We're on the north coast...stuff
>>> from the Hermes Dundee depot either gets lost, or damaged, or doesn't
>>> arrive for more than a week after the 'out for delivery' notice.
>>> Out to lunch, more like.
>>> Lakeland has been using Hermes, too.
>> That is odd because we have local Hermes delivery and they are superb!
>> I think your problem is with the Hermes connection at your local end.
>> You might like to complain to Amazon about that service!
>>
> But you're in the Central Belt - I'm in the Highlands. Royal Mail have
> always been reliable for us, but Hermes? They barely know we exist.
> I've complained to both Amazon and Lakeland, but the general attitude
> seems to be that we northerners are lucky to get any delivery at all.
> In fact, there are many sellers who will not ship to _any_ IV post
> codes, and some who do, add on an enormous extra charge - as much as
> they add for delivery to Shetland, Orkney, or the Western Isles.
>
> A few years ago, I had picked out a rather nice new couch/sofa, but the
> shipping charges were as much as the cost of the couch. So I bought a
> different one from M&S, who included delivery in their price.
>
> Fortunately, Amazon doesn't use Hermes for _all_ deliveries.
>

Amazon treats us like chopped liver too. We just can't get no respect!
What the heck do us islanders have to do to get some respect? Move to
Oregon, I guess.

On 10/27/2015 11:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I just wish I could buy the items that I have been buying from Amazon
> Fresh but I have been to every store there is within about a 12 mile
> radius and nobody carries them.

Honestly if you have found a source for such a rare item and it is
available when you need it, you should be thankful and just pay or find
a substitution.

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Cheryl

On 10/28/2015 8:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

> I would never pay a fee that high and forget. I don't even like to pay
> the $99 they now charge for Prime.


You don't have to pay for Prime. It is optional and evidently you saw
benefit in doing so. I pay it and receive benefits from it too. If
they suddenly doubled it, I'd drop it. There is always a tipping point
and that point will vary for everyone.

On 10/28/2015 8:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

> I do understand getting a large item delivered for a fee. That's to be
> expected. But Amazon is already sending out tons of things for the $99
> Prime fee. Why charge that much more for groceries?

Do you want the mailman to bring your ground beef and other perishables
and leave them in the mailbox? That is how I get some of my Prime
deliveries after two days. I don't want my food handled like that.
Fresh requires an much different and more costly infrastructure,
starting with refrigeration. Is $200 fair? Can't say, but it takes more
than the $99 you pay for Prime.

On 10/28/2015 7:52 PM, Janet wrote:
>
>> But you're in the Central Belt - I'm in the Highlands. Royal Mail have
>> always been reliable for us, but Hermes? They barely know we exist.
>> I've complained to both Amazon and Lakeland, but the general attitude
>> seems to be that we northerners are lucky to get any delivery at all.
>> In fact, there are many sellers who will not ship to _any_ IV post
>> codes, and some who do, add on an enormous extra charge - as much as
>> they add for delivery to Shetland, Orkney, or the Western Isles.
>>
>> A few years ago, I had picked out a rather nice new couch/sofa, but the
>> shipping charges were as much as the cost of the couch. So I bought a
>> different one from M&S, who included delivery in their price.
>
> We're in another "excluded" Highlands and Islands postcode. John Lewis
> also deliver anywhere with no remote surcharges; free for purchases
> over £50.
>
The new washing machine came from John Lewis, with their extended
warranty (at no extra cost, of course). In my postcode, they don't pick
up the old unit, but I had a couple of other things to dispose of, so I
had the Council pick them all up.
I wish there was a John Lewis in Inverness.

On 10/26/2015 21:06, Julie Bove wrote:
> I have gotten around that by simply cutting whatever meat I have into
> pieces before I serve it to him.

Here fishy fishy...

"Xeno" > wrote in message
...
> On 28/10/2015 9:37 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am fine with my phone.
>>>
>>> Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.
>>
>> As I said, everything here is online now. There are phone numbers and
>> if you call them, you are directed to the website. There is likely
>> nothing I can do about the boat or trailer. I don't think he is in
>> violation of anything.
>
> If you don't check up, how will you ever know?

For crying in the beer! The only reason I posted about it to begin with was
to agree with what some others said prior.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/28/2015 8:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>> I would never pay a fee that high and forget. I don't even like to pay
>> the $99 they now charge for Prime.
>
>
> You don't have to pay for Prime. It is optional and evidently you saw
> benefit in doing so. I pay it and receive benefits from it too. If they
> suddenly doubled it, I'd drop it. There is always a tipping point and
> that point will vary for everyone.

The only reason I got it was that I did need to get items right away
following my foot surgery. I don't necessarily need to do that now which is
why I might rethink it.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/28/2015 8:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>> I do understand getting a large item delivered for a fee. That's to be
>> expected. But Amazon is already sending out tons of things for the $99
>> Prime fee. Why charge that much more for groceries?
>
> Do you want the mailman to bring your ground beef and other perishables
> and leave them in the mailbox? That is how I get some of my Prime
> deliveries after two days. I don't want my food handled like that. Fresh
> requires an much different and more costly infrastructure, starting with
> refrigeration. Is $200 fair? Can't say, but it takes more than the $99
> you pay for Prime.

Most of my Prime items are left on the doorstep. So is my insulin. I pay
nothing to have that shipped to me and it is shipped on ice. That is not my
choice. But it's either that or I don't get it. I have gotten plenty of
other foods shipped to me that way. As I said... I have no problems paying
for the individual delivery. Of course that would depend on what they are
charging per delivery. But I would much rather do that and then I can
decide whether or not to get a delivery. I do not want to have to pay up
front for deliveries that I may not get.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 10/27/2015 11:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I just wish I could buy the items that I have been buying from Amazon
>> Fresh but I have been to every store there is within about a 12 mile
>> radius and nobody carries them.
>
> Honestly if you have found a source for such a rare item and it is
> available when you need it, you should be thankful and just pay or find a
> substitution.

No way I am I paying $200 to get a different kind of produce. Not worth it
to me.

On 29/10/2015 1:23 AM, jmcquown wrote:

<snip>
>
> I love when people say they gave up television. To me that means they
> just tuned out the world.

Hardly tuned out. I read 2 newspapers daily and get my other news and
info in the internet. The problem with TV is that most people fail to
realise that the product being marketed is themselves. I'll let you work
out what that means.
>
> We now return you to our regularly scheduled program.

And that, in a nutshell, is what shits me to tears - regularly scheduled
programming. I have to adjust 'my life' to their schedule. If you don't
mind, I'll pass on that.

Yes, I know, PVR's exist but I can't be bothered with them as the
internet provides me with sufficient timeshifting ability to achieve my
aims.
>
> Jill

--

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On 29/10/2015 11:34 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 10/28/2015 5:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 10/28/2015 10:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "S Viemeister" > wrote
>>>> I've had a few delivery problems with AmazonUK - they've been using
>>>> Hermes for some of my shipments. I've been notified that an item is
>>>> 'out for delivery', from _Dundee_! We're on the north coast...stuff
>>>> from the Hermes Dundee depot either gets lost, or damaged, or doesn't
>>>> arrive for more than a week after the 'out for delivery' notice.
>>>> Out to lunch, more like.
>>>> Lakeland has been using Hermes, too.
>>> That is odd because we have local Hermes delivery and they are superb!
>>> I think your problem is with the Hermes connection at your local end.
>>> You might like to complain to Amazon about that service!
>>>
>> But you're in the Central Belt - I'm in the Highlands. Royal Mail have
>> always been reliable for us, but Hermes? They barely know we exist.
>> I've complained to both Amazon and Lakeland, but the general attitude
>> seems to be that we northerners are lucky to get any delivery at all.
>> In fact, there are many sellers who will not ship to _any_ IV post
>> codes, and some who do, add on an enormous extra charge - as much as
>> they add for delivery to Shetland, Orkney, or the Western Isles.
>>
>> A few years ago, I had picked out a rather nice new couch/sofa, but the
>> shipping charges were as much as the cost of the couch. So I bought a
>> different one from M&S, who included delivery in their price.
>>
>> Fortunately, Amazon doesn't use Hermes for _all_ deliveries.
>>
>
> Amazon treats us like chopped liver too. We just can't get no respect!

You might try avoiding double negatives. It will make people less
confused about your 'real' meaning.

> What the heck do us islanders have to do to get some respect? Move to
> Oregon, I guess.


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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...

> The new washing machine came from John Lewis, with their extended warranty
> (at no extra cost, of course). In my postcode, they don't pick up the old
> unit, but I had a couple of other things to dispose of, so I had the
> Council pick them all up.
> I wish there was a John Lewis in Inverness.

Did you try AO? They still advertise on TV a second day delivery.

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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...

> I have a thick enough skin that I don't get bothered by it. I think many
> are the same way. To be honest, and maybe it's because I just don't read
> here as much as I used to, I don't even pay attention to the negative
> posts about food. The way I see it is everyone has their own taste, what
> we post about food is subject to those tastes so if someone doesn't like
> it, it is what it is. Doesn't bother me and I wish it wouldn't bother
> others enough to keep talking about it. It's boring.

Good attitude and I absolutely agree with you!

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On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 9:52:01 PM UTC-10, Xeno wrote:
> On 29/10/2015 11:34 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On 10/28/2015 5:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> >> On 10/28/2015 10:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>> "S Viemeister" > wrote
> >>>> I've had a few delivery problems with AmazonUK - they've been using
> >>>> Hermes for some of my shipments. I've been notified that an item is
> >>>> 'out for delivery', from _Dundee_! We're on the north coast...stuff
> >>>> from the Hermes Dundee depot either gets lost, or damaged, or doesn't
> >>>> arrive for more than a week after the 'out for delivery' notice.
> >>>> Out to lunch, more like.
> >>>> Lakeland has been using Hermes, too.
> >>> That is odd because we have local Hermes delivery and they are superb!
> >>> I think your problem is with the Hermes connection at your local end.
> >>> You might like to complain to Amazon about that service!
> >>>
> >> But you're in the Central Belt - I'm in the Highlands. Royal Mail have
> >> always been reliable for us, but Hermes? They barely know we exist.
> >> I've complained to both Amazon and Lakeland, but the general attitude
> >> seems to be that we northerners are lucky to get any delivery at all.
> >> In fact, there are many sellers who will not ship to _any_ IV post
> >> codes, and some who do, add on an enormous extra charge - as much as
> >> they add for delivery to Shetland, Orkney, or the Western Isles.
> >>
> >> A few years ago, I had picked out a rather nice new couch/sofa, but the
> >> shipping charges were as much as the cost of the couch. So I bought a
> >> different one from M&S, who included delivery in their price.
> >>
> >> Fortunately, Amazon doesn't use Hermes for _all_ deliveries.
> >>
> >
> > Amazon treats us like chopped liver too. We just can't get no respect!
>
> You might try avoiding double negatives. It will make people less
> confused about your 'real' meaning.
>
> > What the heck do us islanders have to do to get some respect? Move to
> > Oregon, I guess.
>
>
> --
>
> Xeno

Hey pal, it worked out fine for Rodney Dangerfield!

On 10/29/2015 4:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > wrote
>> The new washing machine came from John Lewis, with their extended
>> warranty (at no extra cost, of course). In my postcode, they don't
>> pick up the old unit, but I had a couple of other things to dispose
>> of, so I had the Council pick them all up.
>> I wish there was a John Lewis in Inverness.
>
> Did you try AO? They still advertise on TV a second day delivery.
>
I did look, but at the time, the machine I wanted had the price I
wanted, at JL. And second-day delivery almost never applies to my postcode!
It wasn't a 'planned' replacement - the old machine had started to wash
the floor every time it was turned on, bits of it were rusting, it only
did a 5 kilo load - and at 18 years old, it seemed wise to replace it,
rather than spend time and money attempting to repair the old one.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/29/2015 4:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > wrote
>>> The new washing machine came from John Lewis, with their extended
>>> warranty (at no extra cost, of course). In my postcode, they don't
>>> pick up the old unit, but I had a couple of other things to dispose
>>> of, so I had the Council pick them all up.
>>> I wish there was a John Lewis in Inverness.
>>
>> Did you try AO? They still advertise on TV a second day delivery.
>>
> I did look, but at the time, the machine I wanted had the price I wanted,
> at JL. And second-day delivery almost never applies to my postcode!
> It wasn't a 'planned' replacement - the old machine had started to wash
> the floor every time it was turned on, bits of it were rusting, it only
> did a 5 kilo load - and at 18 years old, it seemed wise to replace it,
> rather than spend time and money attempting to repair the old one.

Pretty much what happened with my previous one, but it was good to get the
second day delivery.

I suppose you could ask them?



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 10/29/2015 10:45 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > wrote
>> On 10/29/2015 4:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> Did you try AO? They still advertise on TV a second day delivery.
>> I did look, but at the time, the machine I wanted had the price I
>> wanted, at JL. And second-day delivery almost never applies to my
>> postcode!
>> It wasn't a 'planned' replacement - the old machine had started to
>> wash the floor every time it was turned on, bits of it were rusting,
>> it only did a 5 kilo load - and at 18 years old, it seemed wise to
>> replace it, rather than spend time and money attempting to repair the
>> old one.
> Pretty much what happened with my previous one, but it was good to get
> the second day delivery.
>
> I suppose you could ask them?
>
When the next major appliance conks out.
I expect we'll be needing a new fridge and freezer soon - the current
ones are 16 (fridge)and 18 (freezer)years old.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/29/2015 4:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> > wrote
>>>> The new washing machine came from John Lewis, with their extended
>>>> warranty (at no extra cost, of course). In my postcode, they don't
>>>> pick up the old unit, but I had a couple of other things to dispose
>>>> of, so I had the Council pick them all up.
>>>> I wish there was a John Lewis in Inverness.
>>>
>>> Did you try AO? They still advertise on TV a second day delivery.
>>>
>> I did look, but at the time, the machine I wanted had the price I wanted,
>> at JL. And second-day delivery almost never applies to my postcode!
>> It wasn't a 'planned' replacement - the old machine had started to wash
>> the floor every time it was turned on, bits of it were rusting, it only
>> did a 5 kilo load - and at 18 years old, it seemed wise to replace it,
>> rather than spend time and money attempting to repair the old one.
>
> Pretty much what happened with my previous one, but it was good to get the
> second day delivery.
>
> I suppose you could ask them?

Here is the website:

http://ao.com/?&WT.srch=1&WT.z_PT=MD...FQq3GwodbnYBCw


>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Sqwertz wrote:
> Many of us don't even see the commercials.


Too busy stalking women?


Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

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I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:33:17 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 18:33:41 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>
>> Hardly tuned out. I read 2 newspapers daily and get my other news and
>> info in the internet. The problem with TV is that most people fail to
>> realise that the product being marketed is themselves. I'll let you work
>> out what that means.
>
>Many of us don't even see the commercials. They're not making any
>money off of me and I am not being sold.
>
>-sw

I see NO television commercials, because I Killed My Television over 6
years ago!!

Die Television, DIE!!! :-) Most massive propaganda machine evah!! :-(

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe > wrote in
:

> I see NO television commercials, because I Killed My Television over 6
> years ago!!
>
> Die Television, DIE!!! :-) Most massive propaganda machine evah!! :-(
>

I beat you. I turned mine off in about '92. Don't miss it a bit. Hate the
TV on demo TVs in stores. Can't see what I could have liked about it.


--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:33:17 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 18:33:41 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> Hardly tuned out. I read 2 newspapers daily and get my other news and
>>> info in the internet. The problem with TV is that most people fail to
>>> realise that the product being marketed is themselves. I'll let you work
>>> out what that means.
>>
>> Many of us don't even see the commercials. They're not making any
>> money off of me and I am not being sold.
>>
>> -sw
>
> I see NO television commercials, because



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Julie Bove wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I do understand getting a large item delivered for a fee. That's to be
>>> expected. But Amazon is already sending out tons of things for the $99
>>> Prime fee. Why charge that much more for groceries?
>>
>> Do you want the mailman to bring your ground beef and other perishables
>> and leave them in the mailbox? That is how I get some of my Prime
>> deliveries after two days. I don't want my food handled like that. Fresh
>> requires an much different and more costly infrastructure, starting with
>> refrigeration. Is $200 fair? Can't say, but it takes more than the $99
>> you pay for Prime.
>
>Most of my Prime items are left on the doorstep. So is my insulin. I pay
>nothing to have that shipped to me and it is shipped on ice.

I've had cat insulin delivered, it was specially packed in an
insulated package with ice packs, shipping was free but the price of
the insulin more than covered the shipping and packaging. No people
pharmacy carried feline insulin, only other choice would be buying
from the Vet but that would have cost even more plus it'd be a 30 mile
round trip... fortunately I could buy the syringes from Walmart for a
third the price the Vet charged. The insulin and syringes cost
$60/month but it kept Blackie alive three more years. The Vet said
most people wouldn't pay, they'd put him down, but I couldn't so long
as he was comfortable. Eventually his organs began to fail from the
insulin. Those were very nice insulated packages, about a foot sq made
of thick styrofoam that was clad with aluminum foil , with a whole lot
of reusable cold packs in a mesh pouch inside. That's how I learned
about the temperature sensors, one was inside each package taped to
the insulin... the insulin was only a small vial in a small box, not
even an inch by two inches. The temperature sensor indicated if the
insulin got warm... the sensor would cost maybe one penny in bulk, I
still think one should be attached to all perishable foods
(meats/dairy), there's a lot of spoilage and food related illness from
improperly refrigerated food... I often see perishables sitting out in
market aisles, and people decide to leave a steak behind the canned
soup and some idiot shelf stocker puts it back in the meat display.
There are many types of temperature minders, go to:
http://shockwatch.com/products/tempe...ure-indicators

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:19:43 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 5:24:07 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 10:15:40 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> >> >> > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the
> >> >> > > > grease.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the
> >> >> > > price
> >> >> > > and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > sf
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most
> >> >> > folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high
> >> >> > speed conduit for streaming on demand.
> >> >>
> >> >> Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
> >> >> they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
> >> >> an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
> >> >> me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
> >> >> a middle man.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> sf
> >> >
> >> > I agree, nothing is free. What I'm saying is that traditional cable is
> >> > going to be left out of the loop unless they can evolve. These are the
> >> > days when people will be looking to disconnect from these old
> >> > services -
> >> > telephone, cable, even electricity.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.techhive.com/article/2996...ee-roku-3.html
> >>
> >> Not me. I don't want to give up my landline. I hate cell phones. Hate
> >> them! Rather necessary these days but I'll keep mine only for when I
> >> need
> >> it. I'm fine with cable too. Hate dish and don't want to watch stuff on
> >> my
> >> computer, phone or tablet. Also don't care about On Demand.
> >
> > Yeah right - next you'll be saying that you don't care about Facebook and
> > Twitter.
>
> I do Facebook but not Twitter. I did sign up for it because the school
> asked us to. Never figured it out.

Facebook is a remarkable database of the connections between people, places, things, and faces. My theory is that if you have a big enough database, you locate people simply by doing a search of a few relevant words. Big data like this is gonna be a great tool for law enforcement in the future. No complex algorithms will be needed - just simple connections.

On 30/10/2015 4:46 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:33:17 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 18:33:41 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> Hardly tuned out. I read 2 newspapers daily and get my other news and
>>> info in the internet. The problem with TV is that most people fail to
>>> realise that the product being marketed is themselves. I'll let you work
>>> out what that means.
>>
>> Many of us don't even see the commercials. They're not making any
>> money off of me and I am not being sold.
>>
>> -sw
>
> I see NO television commercials, because I Killed My Television over 6
> years ago!!
>
> Die Television, DIE!!! :-) Most massive propaganda machine evah!! :-(
>
> John Kuthe...
>
If it weren't for my wife's needs, I'd probably be in a TV free zone
too. Will sat that I do watch the 24 hour news on ABC24 (Aust) now and
then but that's about it. I can also get that on line so the loss of the
TV wouldn't impede me much.

--

Xeno

On 30/10/2015 7:11 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:19:43 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 5:24:07 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 10:15:40 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the
>>>>>>>>> grease.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the
>>>>>>>> price
>>>>>>>> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most
>>>>>>> folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high
>>>>>>> speed conduit for streaming on demand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
>>>>>> they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
>>>>>> an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
>>>>>> me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
>>>>>> a middle man.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sf
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree, nothing is free. What I'm saying is that traditional cable is
>>>>> going to be left out of the loop unless they can evolve. These are the
>>>>> days when people will be looking to disconnect from these old
>>>>> services -
>>>>> telephone, cable, even electricity.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.techhive.com/article/2996...ee-roku-3.html
>>>>
>>>> Not me. I don't want to give up my landline. I hate cell phones. Hate
>>>> them! Rather necessary these days but I'll keep mine only for when I
>>>> need
>>>> it. I'm fine with cable too. Hate dish and don't want to watch stuff on
>>>> my
>>>> computer, phone or tablet. Also don't care about On Demand.
>>>
>>> Yeah right - next you'll be saying that you don't care about Facebook and
>>> Twitter.
>>
>> I do Facebook but not Twitter. I did sign up for it because the school
>> asked us to. Never figured it out.
>
> Facebook is a remarkable database of the connections between people, places, things, and faces. My theory is that if you have a big enough database, you locate people simply by doing a search of a few relevant words. Big data like this is gonna be a great tool for law enforcement in the future. No complex algorithms will be needed - just simple connections.
>
It wouldn't surprise me if they are already doing so.

--

Xeno

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 11:20:35 AM UTC-10, Xeno wrote:
> On 30/10/2015 7:11 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:19:43 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 5:24:07 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 10:15:40 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown
> >>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the
> >>>>>>>>> grease.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the
> >>>>>>>> price
> >>>>>>>> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> sf
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most
> >>>>>>> folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high
> >>>>>>> speed conduit for streaming on demand.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
> >>>>>> they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
> >>>>>> an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
> >>>>>> me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
> >>>>>> a middle man.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> sf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I agree, nothing is free. What I'm saying is that traditional cable is
> >>>>> going to be left out of the loop unless they can evolve. These are the
> >>>>> days when people will be looking to disconnect from these old
> >>>>> services -
> >>>>> telephone, cable, even electricity.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.techhive.com/article/2996...ee-roku-3.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Not me. I don't want to give up my landline. I hate cell phones. Hate
> >>>> them! Rather necessary these days but I'll keep mine only for when I
> >>>> need
> >>>> it. I'm fine with cable too. Hate dish and don't want to watch stuff on
> >>>> my
> >>>> computer, phone or tablet. Also don't care about On Demand.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah right - next you'll be saying that you don't care about Facebook and
> >>> Twitter.
> >>
> >> I do Facebook but not Twitter. I did sign up for it because the school
> >> asked us to. Never figured it out.
> >
> > Facebook is a remarkable database of the connections between people, places, things, and faces. My theory is that if you have a big enough database, you locate people simply by doing a search of a few relevant words. Big data like this is gonna be a great tool for law enforcement in the future. No complex algorithms will be needed - just simple connections.
> >
> It wouldn't surprise me if they are already doing so.
>
> --
>
> Xeno

That would be my guess too.