On 10/26/2015 10:41 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> She just tells herself that she's saving money by satisfying
> her addiction.
> In the event of world catastrophe and the resulting
> mayhem, I'm going to raid the Morman's houses - They have food and
> women! (but BYOB).
>
> -sw



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John Kuthe wrote:
> PLONK!! Into my adaptive KILL


Eh, **** off, k00kstuff!




http://fee.org/freeman/wal-mart-is-g...r-the-economy/

Wal-Mart and Small Communities

The claim that Wal-Mart “disregards the concerns of small communities”
is also contradicted by the evidence. If Wal-Mart’s stores were not in
tune with the concerns of shoppers in small communities, the stores
wouldn’t make a profit and would eventually shut down. If Wal-Mart’s
stores were not in tune with the concerns of job seekers in those
communities, the stores wouldn’t be able to staff their operations. The
concerns that Wal-Mart rightly disregards are those of local businesses
that would prefer not to have to deal with new competition. The absence
of rigorous competition leads to high prices in many small communities.
While this may be good for the profit margins of established businesses,
it is not necessarily a condition to be preferred over the benefits for
the majority of the inhabitants of the community that result from robust
competition.

Wal-Mart runs the largest corporate cash-giving foundation in America.
In 2004 Wal-Mart donated over $170 million. More than 90 percent of
these donations went to charities in the communities served by Wal-Mart
stores.7

From an economic perspective, when all the claims are dispassionately
evaluated it looks like Wal-Mart promotes prosperity. The company is
helping consumers get more for their money. It is providing jobs for
willing employees. It is stimulating its suppliers to achieve greater
economies in manufacturing. It is encouraging trade with less-developed
economies, helping the inhabitants of Third World nations to improve
their standards of living. Far from “disregarding the concerns of small
communities,” Wal-Mart offers an appealing place to shop and work.

Wal-Mart is doing all these good things and making a profit of around $9
billion a year.This is a profit margin of less than 4 percent.That’s
mighty efficient. To call Wal-Mart a “corporate criminal” is slander.
Wal-Mart is a model of how successful capitalism is supposed to work. It
is a company that should be emulated, not reviled.

http://business.time.com/2012/06/04/...oming-to-town/

Homeowners, local chambers of commerce, and town planners alike all have
some assumptions about Walmart. It’s often assumed that when a new
Walmart opens in town, it’ll kill small businesses and may even hurt the
local real estate market. But researchers say the effects of Walmart on
a surrounding town are sometimes surprising: The numbers indicate that
the presence of the big-box retailer may actually be good for home
values and some small businesses—though not so good for waistlines.

In a new paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research,
Devin Pope and Jaren Pope, economists from the University of Chicago and
Brigham Young University, respectively, investigated what the
introduction of a Walmart store did to nearby home values in communities
around the U.S. After analyzing 600,000 home purchases between 2001 and
2006 in the vicinity of 159 new Walmarts, they found that homes located
within half a mile of the Walmart rose in value 2% to 3% more relative
to homes that weren’t close to the mammoth retailer. Homes located
between .5-mile and one mile from Walmart also saw a boost in value,
though it tended to be slightly smaller, with prices increasing 1% to 2%.

But the study also revealed that many other businesses were given a
boost by the presence of Walmart. A CBS News story about the research noted:

Those selling products and, especially, services that Walmart doesn’t
will tend to do well. Again, because shoppers arrive near Walmart ready
to spend, they tend to leave their money with whomever nearby is selling
what they want.
Researchers noted that over time—often, a LONG period of time—the
storefronts shuttered as a result of an inability to compete with
Walmart tend to eventually be occupied by restaurants, boutique
retailers, professional offices, and other services and businesses that
do not try to compete with Walmart.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:05:32 -0500, John Kuthe >
wrote:

> It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>
> Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!

And yet you are participating in the game by selling candy.

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sf

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:05:32 -0500, John Kuthe >
> wrote:
>
>> It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>>
>> Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!
>
> And yet you are participating in the game by selling candy.
>

He's a poor stupid capitalist, lol...

Sqwertz wrote:
> Put me down for $100 worth of Amazon canned chicken!
>
> -sw


Hold it between yer woman-stalking knees, you subhuman virus!

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:05:32 -0500, John Kuthe >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:21:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>
>>> Of course, once they have people hooked, they raise the prices...it's the
>>> way of the world.
>>>
>> It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>>
>> Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!
>
> Aren't you the guy who said all supermarkets have to die, but still
> buys groceries at supermarkets? How do you think that contributes to
> your anti-capitalist revolution?
>

k00ks are hard to pin down...

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:20:47 -0500, John Kuthe >
> wrote:
>
>> You are as SOCK PUPPET as can be!! PLONK!! Into my adaptive KILL
>> FILE!! Prepare to be IGNORED!!
>
> You'll never stop talking to the troll, admit it.
>
Tee hee!!!!

On 10/26/2015 3:06 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:19:42 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/26/2015 5:58 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:17:54 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot. You're
>>>>>> "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage to go to
>>>>>> the store. You've got three cars and two other people living with you.
>>>>>> Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin' store.
>>>>>> (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask your
>>>>> permission before we buy something online?
>>>>
>>>> That would be useful. Don't want to get into trouble for not getting
>>>> permission now do we? Perhaps we should all have the number!
>>>
>>> That would be good. I sometimes buy wine online and I'm not disabled.
>>> Does that make me a bad person?
>>>
>> If you get a good deal, no problem.
>>
>> Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook? How about you post a recipe,
>> something you've actually prepared, rather than sit here kissing
>> Ophelia? You two are peas in a pod, bouncing off each other in defense
>> of "bullying".
>
> I commented on a post of yours that had nothing to do with cooking,
> but was one big, unnecessary bitchfest. If you had stuck to cooking
> yourself, I wouldn't have commented off-topic either.
>
You still didn't answer the question. How about a post about what YOU
have cooked? Hmmmm. Didn't think so.

Jill

On 2015-10-26 09:58:09 +0000, Bruce said:

> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:17:54 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/26/2015 3:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> Although I had read something about this, I did not understand the full
>>>>> ramifications of this until I tried to place an order. Even then, they
>>>>> are not being totally forthcoming.
>>>>>
>>>> (snippage)
>>>>
>>>> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot. You're
>>>> "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage to go to
>>>> the store. You've got three cars and two other people living with you.
>>>> Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin' store.
>>>> (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
>>>
>>> Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask your
>>> permission before we buy something online?
>>
>> That would be useful. Don't want to get into trouble for not getting
>> permission now do we? Perhaps we should all have the number!
>
> That would be good. I sometimes buy wine online and I'm not disabled.
> Does that make me a bad person?

I wouldn't turn to the internet, or usenet, for opinions on your personhood.

Who would buy groceries online? Certainly "disabled" people, but also
disabled (sans quotes) people too. How about people going through
chemotherapy, or do cancer victims get the eye-rolling routine too?
There there's people who for not-evil reasons (health, age), can't
drive a car or semi-evil reasons (house-detention, DUI). How about
non-disabled people with children who have significant disabilities, or
parents with Alzheimbers; they too can't leave family unattended.

These are just a few off the top of my head who would find online
purchasing a life-changing convenience. But believe me there are
*scads* more if Amazon is charging ~$200 a year for the service. They
don't just throw things at the wall and see what sticks. They have
smart folks making profit-driven decisions.

On 10/26/2015 4:30 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot.
> You're "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage
> to go to the store. You've got three cars and two other people
> living with you. Surely someone in your household can get to the
> freakin' store. (Whether or not they choose to is a different
> matter.)

I actually do order from my regular grocery store and have it delivered.
Not in a couple of months now, but they were a life saver when I needed it.

I haven't tried Amazon fresh but I'm sure if I had and was happy with
it, that I'd also be ****ed off about the change.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On 10/26/2015 1:27 PM, tert in seattle wrote:

> wrote:
>>
>> When I was a kid, if we needed milk and eggs, a driver would deposit them
>> on our porch before we woke up. This was considered normal back then,
>> and still is normal in suburban Chicago, from Oberweis Dairy.
>
> I saw a Schwann truck a few months ago!
>
>
My brother uses them, and now they even use Hello Fresh for some meals.
I've used Omaha steaks a few times; pricy but worth it when you want
good steaks and even in the grocery store all you can do it see the meat
through the cellophane, not smell or see most of the marbling.

Online shopping or home delivery isn't for everyone.

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ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 06:19:41 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:20:47 -0500, John Kuthe >
>wrote:
>
>>You are as SOCK PUPPET as can be!! PLONK!! Into my adaptive KILL
>>FILE!! Prepare to be IGNORED!!
>
>You'll never stop talking to the troll, admit it.

I may talk AROUND it. Just not to it.

Huge difference! Ask any troll/Sock Puppet!

John Kuthe...

Cheryl wrote:
>
>I actually do order from my regular grocery store and have it delivered.
>Not in a couple of months now, but they were a life saver when I needed it.

In larger towns/cities there are lots of small grocery stores that
deliver, delivering groceries for mom n' pop groceries by bicycle was
how before I was ten years old how I earned money in Brooklyn.

>I haven't tried Amazon fresh but I'm sure if I had and was happy with
>it, that I'd also be ****ed off about the change.

Amazon Fresh doesn't deliver where I live, population density is non
existant, but I buy lots of food from Amazon. just not perishables...
for canned and dried Amazon prices beat everyones, even Walmart. Today
120 pounds of cat litter was delivered and a bulk box of raisin bran
muffin mix, and a high visibility lime green cycling shirt. I
woulddn't buy perishables on line anyway, I need to squeeze melons...
even when I buy iceberg I squeeze every head for large and firm... I
must've examined 20 heads today before choosing one. When I choose a
roasting chicken every women nearby watches me examine every breast
with more finesse than mammography.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:35:02 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:05:32 -0500, John Kuthe >
>wrote:
>
>> It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>>
>> Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!
>
>And yet you are participating in the game by selling candy.

I am not a rich capitalist pig! I just sold SOME as a feasability
test, I didn't even keep track of the money coming back to me from the
sales, I think I may have made as much as I spent on the supplies I
used making those Valentine's Day Chocolate Covered Cherries!

Small scale capitalism is not a bad thing. Not at all, it makes a
functioning economy among all the participants. The LOVE OF MONEY is
the evil!! Sam Walton's children have it the worst, followed by the
Koch Bros, then several other Billionaire Ownership ruling class in
this Mammon Worshiping world!! THAT is the game I'm trying my best to
get OUT of playing!!

John Kuthe...

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 06:18:57 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:05:32 -0500, John Kuthe >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:21:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>wrote:
>
>>>Of course, once they have people hooked, they raise the prices...it's the
>>>way of the world.
>>>
>>It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>>
>>Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!
>
>Aren't you the guy who said all supermarkets have to die, but still
>buys groceries at supermarkets? How do you think that contributes to
>your anti-capitalist revolution?

No, I never said all supermarkets should die. I wish upon MalWart a
swift economic death, and work towards that goal by NEVER spending ANY
of MY money there, ever! None! Zero! Zip! Nada!! Die MalWart DIE!
McCraps too! And FastFood in general, whiuch I almost never buy.

John Kuthe...

On 27/10/2015 7:45 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:14:24 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-10-26 09:58:09 +0000, Bruce said:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:17:54 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot. You're
>>>>>> "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage to go to
>>>>>> the store. You've got three cars and two other people living with you.
>>>>>> Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin' store.
>>>>>> (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask your
>>>>> permission before we buy something online?
>>>>
>>>> That would be useful. Don't want to get into trouble for not getting
>>>> permission now do we? Perhaps we should all have the number!
>>>
>>> That would be good. I sometimes buy wine online and I'm not disabled.
>>> Does that make me a bad person?
>>
>> I wouldn't turn to the internet, or usenet, for opinions on your personhood.
>>
>> Who would buy groceries online? Certainly "disabled" people, but also
>> disabled (sans quotes) people too. How about people going through
>> chemotherapy, or do cancer victims get the eye-rolling routine too?
>> There there's people who for not-evil reasons (health, age), can't
>> drive a car or semi-evil reasons (house-detention, DUI). How about
>> non-disabled people with children who have significant disabilities, or
>> parents with Alzheimbers; they too can't leave family unattended.
>>
>> These are just a few off the top of my head who would find online
>> purchasing a life-changing convenience. But believe me there are
>> *scads* more if Amazon is charging ~$200 a year for the service. They
>> don't just throw things at the wall and see what sticks. They have
>> smart folks making profit-driven decisions.
>
> All good reasons. In my case: the online wine shop sometimes has good
> offers and it's a half an hour drive to the shops. We have to plan
> ahead though, because delivery can take a week.
>
No need to buy groceries, wine, etc. online here. We have a good range
of shops close handy. All we buy online are the more obscure things.
Just ordered a couple of books online however. Cheaper than retail, just
released on the day and (bonus) signed by the author. Wouldn't get that
by purchasing locally. The online discount even covers the postage and
I'm still ahead. ;-)
Whether it's worthwhile buying online really depends on a persons
individual circumstances. When I lived in Melbourne, I rarely bought
online - just SH stuff on EBay. There simply was no need as I could get
pretty much everything within a 5 k. Here in regional Aus, it's not
quite so convenient for stuff like computer parts, electronic gadgets
and the like. I still buy my computer parts from a store in Melbourne
that I could walk to from my previous home as they also have an online
sales department. It's all good! ;-)

--

Xeno

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:25:13 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:19:19 -0500, John Kuthe >
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 06:18:57 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:05:32 -0500, John Kuthe >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:21:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Of course, once they have people hooked, they raise the prices...it's the
>>>>>way of the world.
>>>>>
>>>>It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>>>>
>>>>Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!
>>>
>>>Aren't you the guy who said all supermarkets have to die, but still
>>>buys groceries at supermarkets? How do you think that contributes to
>>>your anti-capitalist revolution?
>>
>>No, I never said all supermarkets should die. I wish upon MalWart a
>>swift economic death, and work towards that goal by NEVER spending ANY
>>of MY money there, ever! None! Zero! Zip! Nada!! Die MalWart DIE!
>>McCraps too! And FastFood in general, whiuch I almost never buy.
>
>That makes sense.

I try and make good sense. Good food too! :-)

John Kuthe...

Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > On 10/26/2015 3:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> Although I had read something about this, I did not understand the
> full >> ramifications of this until I tried to place an order. Even
> then, they >> are not being totally forthcoming.
> > >
> > (snippage)
> >
> > Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot.
> > You're "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities
> > manage to go to the store. You've got three cars and two other
> > people living with you. Surely someone in your household can get
> > to the freakin' store. (Whether or not they choose to is a
> > different matter.)
>
> Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask your
> permission before we buy something online?

Snicker...



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On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:17:15 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:09:49 -0500, John Kuthe >
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 06:19:41 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:20:47 -0500, John Kuthe >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>You are as SOCK PUPPET as can be!! PLONK!! Into my adaptive KILL
>>>>FILE!! Prepare to be IGNORED!!
>>>
>>>You'll never stop talking to the troll, admit it.
>>
>>I may talk AROUND it. Just not to it.
>>
>>Huge difference! Ask any troll/Sock Puppet!
>
>When you say: "You are as sock puppet as can be!!", who is "you"?

The "it" that is the Sock Puppet. I consider it all one big Sock
Puppet, it is nonhuman, a true "it". We humans have real names. I've
been on a long campaign about using my real name on the Iinternet,
primarily because I SAW the melee of idiocy precipitated when Steve
Case sent a free AOL CD to anything with a pulse. I was on the
Internet before that and actually before the WWW even existed! So I
saw how what I came to call AnonAhole access did to the Internet, and
it was atrocious. So I decided to start using mny real name. Perhaps
that would instill some self-accountability to what were many out of
coutrol Anon Aholes or as some called them AOLamers! I tried to lead
by example. I guess we see how well THAT worked out!

John Kuthe...

gtr wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2015-10-26 09:58:09 +0000, Bruce said:
>
> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:17:54 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 10/26/2015 3:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > > > > Although I had read something about this, I did not
> > > > > > understand the full ramifications of this until I tried to
> > > > > > place an order. Even then, they are not being totally
> > > > > > forthcoming.
> > > > > >
> > > > > (snippage)
> > > > >
> > > > > Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I
> > > > > forgot. You're "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with
> > > > > disabilities manage to go to the store. You've got three
> > > > > cars and two other people living with you. Surely someone in
> > > > > your household can get to the freakin' store. (Whether or
> > > > > not they choose to is a different matter.)
> > > >
> > > > Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask
> > > > your permission before we buy something online?
> > >
> > > That would be useful. Don't want to get into trouble for not
> > > getting permission now do we? Perhaps we should all have the
> > > number!
> >
> > That would be good. I sometimes buy wine online and I'm not
> > disabled. Does that make me a bad person?
>
> I wouldn't turn to the internet, or usenet, for opinions on your
> personhood.
>
> Who would buy groceries online? Certainly "disabled" people, but
> also disabled (sans quotes) people too. How about people going
> through chemotherapy, or do cancer victims get the eye-rolling
> routine too? There there's people who for not-evil reasons (health,
> age), can't drive a car or semi-evil reasons (house-detention, DUI).
> How about non-disabled people with children who have significant
> disabilities, or parents with Alzheimbers; they too can't leave
> family unattended.
>
> These are just a few off the top of my head who would find online
> purchasing a life-changing convenience. But believe me there are
> scads more if Amazon is charging ~$200 a year for the service. They
> don't just throw things at the wall and see what sticks. They have
> smart folks making profit-driven decisions.

Agreed. I am getting a few things for what I estimate is 15$ a month
savings. These are not abnormal items. I'm not getting a head of
lettuce for example. We are talking toilet paper and trash bags and
things like that.

If Amazon jacks the price up, I stop using them for that. Pretty
simple. I'd get flour too there but they are way too expensive to have
that make sense. They are virtually twice the price of local on it.

Carol

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Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 10/26/2015 3:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > > > Although I had read something about this, I did not
> > > > > understand the full ramifications of this until I tried to
> > > > > place an order. Even then, they are not being totally
> > > > > forthcoming.
> > > > >
> > > > (snippage)
> > > >
> > > > Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot.
> > > > You're "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities
> > > > manage to go to the store. You've got three cars and two other
> > > > people living with you.
> >>> Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin' store.
> > > > (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
> > >
> > > Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask
> > > your permission before we buy something online?
> >
> > That would be useful. Don't want to get into trouble for not
> > getting permission now do we? Perhaps we should all have the
> > number!
>
> I do most of my shopping online, not for groceries because I do enjoy
> going to the stores and picking exactly what I want, but for people
> who want to shop online for groceries, why should anyone else care?
>
> Cheri

Cheri, I agree. I do a fair amount of online shopping. I also have a
local store with a sort of online shopping where you list what you want
then drive over and park in a designated spot and they bring it to you.

I *am* disabled (spinal issues) and while I shop when I can, I
appreciate that they have this service. Sure it costs a bit more, but
it's only 3% there. Supportable at need. My husband is also disabled
and can't drive because of his issues.

I bring one of them with me when we shop, but at need, I can online
order fresh stuff and have it delivered to my car.

Carol

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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:30:22 AM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 10/26/2015 3:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> Although I had read something about this, I did not understand
> the full >>> ramifications of this until I tried to place an order.
> Even then, they >>> are not being totally forthcoming.
> > > >
> > > (snippage)
> > >
> > > Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online?
> >
> > I see Google Express vehicles buzzing all over now. But your
> > question explains why Webvan went under.
> >
> >
> > > Hmmmm, I'm down to 2 eggs and I could stand to buy another gallon
> > > of milk. Guess I'd better look online and see if they can
> > > deliver it by 6AM! Uh, no. Like most normal people, I'll be
> > > going to the store tomorrow to buy the things I need.
> >
> > When I was a kid, if we needed milk and eggs, a driver would
> > deposit them on our porch before we woke up. This was considered
> > normal back then, and still is normal in suburban Chicago, from
> > Oberweis Dairy.
>
> I could get that too. I used to. Our milkman is very nice and tall.
> He once changed a light bulb for me when I was struggling. Didn't
> even need the step stool. Only problem is that they had a minimum
> order requirement. And even though they did deliver things other than
> just dairy products, those were not things that we use so I was
> winding up having to throw out spoiled dairy products. I had to
> cancel the service. He came weekly. We have plenty of CSAs around
> here too.
>
> Apparently online ordering isn't common where Jill is? It is here.
> Very.

It's getting more common. Some folks may not understand it because
they aren;t familar with it.

--

On 10/26/2015 5:40 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 10/26/2015 1:27 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> When I was a kid, if we needed milk and eggs, a driver would deposit
>>> them
>>> on our porch before we woke up. This was considered normal back then,
>>> and still is normal in suburban Chicago, from Oberweis Dairy.
>>
>> I saw a Schwann truck a few months ago!
>>
>>
> My brother uses them, and now they even use Hello Fresh for some meals.
> I've used Omaha steaks a few times; pricy but worth it when you want
> good steaks and even in the grocery store all you can do it see the meat
> through the cellophane, not smell or see most of the marbling.
>
> Online shopping or home delivery isn't for everyone.
>
I go to the butcher counter and they show me a steak. If I want it
trimmed, they trim it. I'm not counting on someone behind a keyboard to
select a steak (or any cut of meat) for me.

I understand why she's upset but no one is going to give her the
convenience of fresh food delivery without charging for it.

Jill

Who waits til they're almost out of milk or down to the last egg?

Oh, the troubles of the world, there in BOATwell...

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 19:53:30 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

snip
>I understand why she's upset but no one is going to give her the
>convenience of fresh food delivery without charging for it.
>
>Jill

they could increase the cost of all their inventory by 35 - 40 %. That
may cover the cost of warehousing, trucks, maintenance, fuel, labor
and various insurance. All that stuff costs somebody somewhere.
Janet US

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 06:19:41 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:20:47 -0500, John Kuthe >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You are as SOCK PUPPET as can be!! PLONK!! Into my adaptive KILL
>>> FILE!! Prepare to be IGNORED!!
>>
>> You'll never stop talking to the troll, admit it.
>
> I may talk AROUND it. Just not to it.
>
> Huge difference! Ask any troll/Sock Puppet!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
Eh, **** off, k00kstuff!




http://fee.org/freeman/wal-mart-is-g...r-the-economy/

Wal-Mart and Small Communities

The claim that Wal-Mart “disregards the concerns of small communities”
is also contradicted by the evidence. If Wal-Mart’s stores were not in
tune with the concerns of shoppers in small communities, the stores
wouldn’t make a profit and would eventually shut down. If Wal-Mart’s
stores were not in tune with the concerns of job seekers in those
communities, the stores wouldn’t be able to staff their operations. The
concerns that Wal-Mart rightly disregards are those of local businesses
that would prefer not to have to deal with new competition. The absence
of rigorous competition leads to high prices in many small communities.
While this may be good for the profit margins of established businesses,
it is not necessarily a condition to be preferred over the benefits for
the majority of the inhabitants of the community that result from robust
competition.

Wal-Mart runs the largest corporate cash-giving foundation in America.
In 2004 Wal-Mart donated over $170 million. More than 90 percent of
these donations went to charities in the communities served by Wal-Mart
stores.7

From an economic perspective, when all the claims are dispassionately
evaluated it looks like Wal-Mart promotes prosperity. The company is
helping consumers get more for their money. It is providing jobs for
willing employees. It is stimulating its suppliers to achieve greater
economies in manufacturing. It is encouraging trade with less-developed
economies, helping the inhabitants of Third World nations to improve
their standards of living. Far from “disregarding the concerns of small
communities,” Wal-Mart offers an appealing place to shop and work.

Wal-Mart is doing all these good things and making a profit of around $9
billion a year.This is a profit margin of less than 4 percent.That’s
mighty efficient. To call Wal-Mart a “corporate criminal” is slander.
Wal-Mart is a model of how successful capitalism is supposed to work. It
is a company that should be emulated, not reviled.

http://business.time.com/2012/06/04/...oming-to-town/

Homeowners, local chambers of commerce, and town planners alike all have
some assumptions about Walmart. It’s often assumed that when a new
Walmart opens in town, it’ll kill small businesses and may even hurt the
local real estate market. But researchers say the effects of Walmart on
a surrounding town are sometimes surprising: The numbers indicate that
the presence of the big-box retailer may actually be good for home
values and some small businesses—though not so good for waistlines.

In a new paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research,
Devin Pope and Jaren Pope, economists from the University of Chicago and
Brigham Young University, respectively, investigated what the
introduction of a Walmart store did to nearby home values in communities
around the U.S. After analyzing 600,000 home purchases between 2001 and
2006 in the vicinity of 159 new Walmarts, they found that homes located
within half a mile of the Walmart rose in value 2% to 3% more relative
to homes that weren’t close to the mammoth retailer. Homes located
between .5-mile and one mile from Walmart also saw a boost in value,
though it tended to be slightly smaller, with prices increasing 1% to 2%.

But the study also revealed that many other businesses were given a
boost by the presence of Walmart. A CBS News story about the research noted:

Those selling products and, especially, services that Walmart doesn’t
will tend to do well. Again, because shoppers arrive near Walmart ready
to spend, they tend to leave their money with whomever nearby is selling
what they want.
Researchers noted that over time—often, a LONG period of time—the
storefronts shuttered as a result of an inability to compete with
Walmart tend to eventually be occupied by restaurants, boutique
retailers, professional offices, and other services and businesses that
do not try to compete with Walmart.

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:35:02 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:05:32 -0500, John Kuthe >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>>>
>>> Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!
>>
>> And yet you are participating in the game by selling candy.
>
> I am not a rich capitalist pig! I just sold SOME as a feasability
> test, I didn't even keep track of the money coming back to me from the
> sales,


Ut oh....IRS time!

Eh, **** off, k00kstuff!




http://fee.org/freeman/wal-mart-is-g...r-the-economy/

Wal-Mart and Small Communities

The claim that Wal-Mart “disregards the concerns of small communities”
is also contradicted by the evidence. If Wal-Mart’s stores were not in
tune with the concerns of shoppers in small communities, the stores
wouldn’t make a profit and would eventually shut down. If Wal-Mart’s
stores were not in tune with the concerns of job seekers in those
communities, the stores wouldn’t be able to staff their operations. The
concerns that Wal-Mart rightly disregards are those of local businesses
that would prefer not to have to deal with new competition. The absence
of rigorous competition leads to high prices in many small communities.
While this may be good for the profit margins of established businesses,
it is not necessarily a condition to be preferred over the benefits for
the majority of the inhabitants of the community that result from robust
competition.

Wal-Mart runs the largest corporate cash-giving foundation in America.
In 2004 Wal-Mart donated over $170 million. More than 90 percent of
these donations went to charities in the communities served by Wal-Mart
stores.7

From an economic perspective, when all the claims are dispassionately
evaluated it looks like Wal-Mart promotes prosperity. The company is
helping consumers get more for their money. It is providing jobs for
willing employees. It is stimulating its suppliers to achieve greater
economies in manufacturing. It is encouraging trade with less-developed
economies, helping the inhabitants of Third World nations to improve
their standards of living. Far from “disregarding the concerns of small
communities,” Wal-Mart offers an appealing place to shop and work.

Wal-Mart is doing all these good things and making a profit of around $9
billion a year.This is a profit margin of less than 4 percent.That’s
mighty efficient. To call Wal-Mart a “corporate criminal” is slander.
Wal-Mart is a model of how successful capitalism is supposed to work. It
is a company that should be emulated, not reviled.

http://business.time.com/2012/06/04/...oming-to-town/

Homeowners, local chambers of commerce, and town planners alike all have
some assumptions about Walmart. It’s often assumed that when a new
Walmart opens in town, it’ll kill small businesses and may even hurt the
local real estate market. But researchers say the effects of Walmart on
a surrounding town are sometimes surprising: The numbers indicate that
the presence of the big-box retailer may actually be good for home
values and some small businesses—though not so good for waistlines.

In a new paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research,
Devin Pope and Jaren Pope, economists from the University of Chicago and
Brigham Young University, respectively, investigated what the
introduction of a Walmart store did to nearby home values in communities
around the U.S. After analyzing 600,000 home purchases between 2001 and
2006 in the vicinity of 159 new Walmarts, they found that homes located
within half a mile of the Walmart rose in value 2% to 3% more relative
to homes that weren’t close to the mammoth retailer. Homes located
between .5-mile and one mile from Walmart also saw a boost in value,
though it tended to be slightly smaller, with prices increasing 1% to 2%.

But the study also revealed that many other businesses were given a
boost by the presence of Walmart. A CBS News story about the research noted:

Those selling products and, especially, services that Walmart doesn’t
will tend to do well. Again, because shoppers arrive near Walmart ready
to spend, they tend to leave their money with whomever nearby is selling
what they want.
Researchers noted that over time—often, a LONG period of time—the
storefronts shuttered as a result of an inability to compete with
Walmart tend to eventually be occupied by restaurants, boutique
retailers, professional offices, and other services and businesses that
do not try to compete with Walmart.

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 06:18:57 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:05:32 -0500, John Kuthe >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:21:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Of course, once they have people hooked, they raise the prices...it's the
>>>> way of the world.
>>>>
>>> It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>>>
>>> Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!
>>
>> Aren't you the guy who said all supermarkets have to die, but still
>> buys groceries at supermarkets? How do you think that contributes to
>> your anti-capitalist revolution?
>
> No, I never said all supermarkets should die. I wish upon MalWart

**** off k00kstuff!




http://fee.org/freeman/wal-mart-is-g...r-the-economy/

Wal-Mart and Small Communities

The claim that Wal-Mart “disregards the concerns of small communities”
is also contradicted by the evidence. If Wal-Mart’s stores were not in
tune with the concerns of shoppers in small communities, the stores
wouldn’t make a profit and would eventually shut down. If Wal-Mart’s
stores were not in tune with the concerns of job seekers in those
communities, the stores wouldn’t be able to staff their operations. The
concerns that Wal-Mart rightly disregards are those of local businesses
that would prefer not to have to deal with new competition. The absence
of rigorous competition leads to high prices in many small communities.
While this may be good for the profit margins of established businesses,
it is not necessarily a condition to be preferred over the benefits for
the majority of the inhabitants of the community that result from robust
competition.

Wal-Mart runs the largest corporate cash-giving foundation in America.
In 2004 Wal-Mart donated over $170 million. More than 90 percent of
these donations went to charities in the communities served by Wal-Mart
stores.7

From an economic perspective, when all the claims are dispassionately
evaluated it looks like Wal-Mart promotes prosperity. The company is
helping consumers get more for their money. It is providing jobs for
willing employees. It is stimulating its suppliers to achieve greater
economies in manufacturing. It is encouraging trade with less-developed
economies, helping the inhabitants of Third World nations to improve
their standards of living. Far from “disregarding the concerns of small
communities,” Wal-Mart offers an appealing place to shop and work.

Wal-Mart is doing all these good things and making a profit of around $9
billion a year.This is a profit margin of less than 4 percent.That’s
mighty efficient. To call Wal-Mart a “corporate criminal” is slander.
Wal-Mart is a model of how successful capitalism is supposed to work. It
is a company that should be emulated, not reviled.

http://business.time.com/2012/06/04/...oming-to-town/

Homeowners, local chambers of commerce, and town planners alike all have
some assumptions about Walmart. It’s often assumed that when a new
Walmart opens in town, it’ll kill small businesses and may even hurt the
local real estate market. But researchers say the effects of Walmart on
a surrounding town are sometimes surprising: The numbers indicate that
the presence of the big-box retailer may actually be good for home
values and some small businesses—though not so good for waistlines.

In a new paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research,
Devin Pope and Jaren Pope, economists from the University of Chicago and
Brigham Young University, respectively, investigated what the
introduction of a Walmart store did to nearby home values in communities
around the U.S. After analyzing 600,000 home purchases between 2001 and
2006 in the vicinity of 159 new Walmarts, they found that homes located
within half a mile of the Walmart rose in value 2% to 3% more relative
to homes that weren’t close to the mammoth retailer. Homes located
between .5-mile and one mile from Walmart also saw a boost in value,
though it tended to be slightly smaller, with prices increasing 1% to 2%.

But the study also revealed that many other businesses were given a
boost by the presence of Walmart. A CBS News story about the research noted:

Those selling products and, especially, services that Walmart doesn’t
will tend to do well. Again, because shoppers arrive near Walmart ready
to spend, they tend to leave their money with whomever nearby is selling
what they want.
Researchers noted that over time—often, a LONG period of time—the
storefronts shuttered as a result of an inability to compete with
Walmart tend to eventually be occupied by restaurants, boutique
retailers, professional offices, and other services and businesses that
do not try to compete with Walmart.

John Kuthe wrote:
> I try and make good sense. G


Shaddup, k00kstuff!





http://fee.org/freeman/wal-mart-is-g...r-the-economy/

Wal-Mart and Small Communities

The claim that Wal-Mart “disregards the concerns of small communities”
is also contradicted by the evidence. If Wal-Mart’s stores were not in
tune with the concerns of shoppers in small communities, the stores
wouldn’t make a profit and would eventually shut down. If Wal-Mart’s
stores were not in tune with the concerns of job seekers in those
communities, the stores wouldn’t be able to staff their operations. The
concerns that Wal-Mart rightly disregards are those of local businesses
that would prefer not to have to deal with new competition. The absence
of rigorous competition leads to high prices in many small communities.
While this may be good for the profit margins of established businesses,
it is not necessarily a condition to be preferred over the benefits for
the majority of the inhabitants of the community that result from robust
competition.

Wal-Mart runs the largest corporate cash-giving foundation in America.
In 2004 Wal-Mart donated over $170 million. More than 90 percent of
these donations went to charities in the communities served by Wal-Mart
stores.7

From an economic perspective, when all the claims are dispassionately
evaluated it looks like Wal-Mart promotes prosperity. The company is
helping consumers get more for their money. It is providing jobs for
willing employees. It is stimulating its suppliers to achieve greater
economies in manufacturing. It is encouraging trade with less-developed
economies, helping the inhabitants of Third World nations to improve
their standards of living. Far from “disregarding the concerns of small
communities,” Wal-Mart offers an appealing place to shop and work.

Wal-Mart is doing all these good things and making a profit of around $9
billion a year.This is a profit margin of less than 4 percent.That’s
mighty efficient. To call Wal-Mart a “corporate criminal” is slander.
Wal-Mart is a model of how successful capitalism is supposed to work. It
is a company that should be emulated, not reviled.

http://business.time.com/2012/06/04/...oming-to-town/

Homeowners, local chambers of commerce, and town planners alike all have
some assumptions about Walmart. It’s often assumed that when a new
Walmart opens in town, it’ll kill small businesses and may even hurt the
local real estate market. But researchers say the effects of Walmart on
a surrounding town are sometimes surprising: The numbers indicate that
the presence of the big-box retailer may actually be good for home
values and some small businesses—though not so good for waistlines.

In a new paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research,
Devin Pope and Jaren Pope, economists from the University of Chicago and
Brigham Young University, respectively, investigated what the
introduction of a Walmart store did to nearby home values in communities
around the U.S. After analyzing 600,000 home purchases between 2001 and
2006 in the vicinity of 159 new Walmarts, they found that homes located
within half a mile of the Walmart rose in value 2% to 3% more relative
to homes that weren’t close to the mammoth retailer. Homes located
between .5-mile and one mile from Walmart also saw a boost in value,
though it tended to be slightly smaller, with prices increasing 1% to 2%.

But the study also revealed that many other businesses were given a
boost by the presence of Walmart. A CBS News story about the research noted:

Those selling products and, especially, services that Walmart doesn’t
will tend to do well. Again, because shoppers arrive near Walmart ready
to spend, they tend to leave their money with whomever nearby is selling
what they want.
Researchers noted that over time—often, a LONG period of time—the
storefronts shuttered as a result of an inability to compete with
Walmart tend to eventually be occupied by restaurants, boutique
retailers, professional offices, and other services and businesses that
do not try to compete with Walmart.

John Kuthe wrote:
> Perhaps
> that would instill some self-accountability to what were many out of
> coutrol Anon Aholes or as some called them AOLamers! I tried to lead
> by example. I guess we see how well THAT worked out!
>
> John Kuthe...


Delusions of adequacy, how sad...

jmcquown wrote:
> BTW, I have nothing against any of you, not even Julie.
>
> Jill


Sure...anything to keep her around so you can bully her some more...you
sick, twisted biotch!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/26/2015 6:45 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 10/26/2015 3:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> Although I had read something about this, I did not understand the full
>>>> ramifications of this until I tried to place an order. Even then, they
>>>> are not being totally forthcoming.
>>>>
>>> (snippage)
>>>
>>> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot.
>>> You're "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage
>>> to go to the store. You've got three cars and two other people living
>>> with you. Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin'
>>> store. (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
>>
>> You didn't read what I wrote at all. Did you? I go to the store all
>> the time. But... Amazon sells things that I can not find in the
>> store. Which is one reason that I liked to use them. I can no longer
>> get those things and that doesn't make me happy.
>>>
>>> Hmmmm, I'm down to 2 eggs and I could stand to buy another gallon of
>>> milk. Guess I'd better look online and see if they can deliver it by
>>> 6AM! Uh, no. Like most normal people, I'll be going to the store
>>> tomorrow to buy the things I need.
>>
>> Jinxy Jill. You are an even bigger idiot than I thought. In the first
>> place, I have *never* bought milk by the gallon for my family. We use
>> very little milk. In fact I always keep a few shelf stable boxes.
>
> Of course I read it. Julie, I don't care if you buy, use or ever drink
> milk. It was merely an example.
>
> You wrote "if I realized at 9:00 p.m. that I was out of eggs or meat or
> something, I could quickly place an order and get it by 6:00 a.m. The
> meat was very high quality, the produce fresh."
>
> Okay, here's an idea. Plan ahead. When I'm running low on something I
> add it to my list and then go to the store. I would not order eggs or
> meat or fresh produce online. I like to select my own food. I don't
> expect some stranger sitting on the other end of a computer do it for me
> then complain when they want to charge for it.

But you live alone. I never know who might eat what and when. And you must
have missed the part where I said that Amazon sells things that I can't get
elsewhere.


> If you expect them to deliver it by 6AM then of course you're going to
> have to pay for it.

No. Delivery has been free for over a year.
>
> BTW, Amazon used to be an online bookstore. Amazing how it turned into a
> grocery store. Jeff Bezos is laughing all the way to the bank.

Who is he and why is he laughing?

On 10/26/2015 12:02 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> I would not order eggs or
> meat or fresh produce online. I like to select my own food. I don't
> expect some stranger sitting on the other end of a computer do it for me
> then complain when they want to charge for it.

Not a new concept at all/ When I was in high school (62, 63) I worked
for a grocery store doing deliveries. It was a nice chunk of their
business and I did well with tip on top of my wage. People were willing
to pay premium prices for service.

On 10/26/2015 1:05 PM, John Kuthe wrote:

> It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>
> Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!
>
> John Kuthe...
>

But won't you be cold, hungry, and naked? Of course you can hunt for
meat and wear the buffalo skins for clothes.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/26/2015 1:05 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>>
>> Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>
> But won't you be cold, hungry, and naked? Of course you can hunt for
> meat and wear the buffalo skins for clothes.

He'd be lucky to nab a squirrel pelt to warm his shrunken nuts with...

On 10/26/2015 4:45 PM, Bruce wrote:

> All good reasons. In my case: the online wine shop sometimes has good
> offers and it's a half an hour drive to the shops. We have to plan
> ahead though, because delivery can take a week.
>

Keep some stock. I keep four or five cases around so there is always
something to use. I keep 20 bottles of white at 47 degrees and 20
bottles of reds at 58 degrees the rest at room temperature. .

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:17:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/26/2015 4:45 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>> All good reasons. In my case: the online wine shop sometimes has good
>> offers and it's a half an hour drive to the shops. We have to plan
>> ahead though, because delivery can take a week.
>>
>
>Keep some stock. I keep four or five cases around so there is always
>something to use. I keep 20 bottles of white at 47 degrees and 20
>bottles of reds at 58 degrees the rest at room temperature. .

I don';t have quite as much as you Ed, but I have about a case of reds
in the basement, coolest part of the house, untemp controlled. I use
it primarily for cooking but like drinking a glass as soon as I open a
new bottle.

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 18:46:41 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 10/26/2015 6:45 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 10/26/2015 3:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> Although I had read something about this, I did not understand the full
>>>>> ramifications of this until I tried to place an order. Even then, they
>>>>> are not being totally forthcoming.
>>>>>
>>>> (snippage)
>>>>
>>>> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot.
>>>> You're "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage
>>>> to go to the store. You've got three cars and two other people living
>>>> with you. Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin'
>>>> store. (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
>>>
>>> You didn't read what I wrote at all. Did you? I go to the store all
>>> the time. But... Amazon sells things that I can not find in the
>>> store. Which is one reason that I liked to use them. I can no longer
>>> get those things and that doesn't make me happy.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmm, I'm down to 2 eggs and I could stand to buy another gallon of
>>>> milk. Guess I'd better look online and see if they can deliver it by
>>>> 6AM! Uh, no. Like most normal people, I'll be going to the store
>>>> tomorrow to buy the things I need.
>>>
>>> Jinxy Jill. You are an even bigger idiot than I thought. In the first
>>> place, I have *never* bought milk by the gallon for my family. We use
>>> very little milk. In fact I always keep a few shelf stable boxes.
>>
>> Of course I read it. Julie, I don't care if you buy, use or ever drink
>> milk. It was merely an example.
>>
>> You wrote "if I realized at 9:00 p.m. that I was out of eggs or meat or
>> something, I could quickly place an order and get it by 6:00 a.m. The
>> meat was very high quality, the produce fresh."
>>
>> Okay, here's an idea. Plan ahead. When I'm running low on something I
>> add it to my list and then go to the store. I would not order eggs or
>> meat or fresh produce online. I like to select my own food. I don't
>> expect some stranger sitting on the other end of a computer do it for me
>> then complain when they want to charge for it.
>
>But you live alone. I never know who might eat what and when. And you must
>have missed the part where I said that Amazon sells things that I can't get
>elsewhere.
>
>
>> If you expect them to deliver it by 6AM then of course you're going to
>> have to pay for it.
>
>No. Delivery has been free for over a year.
>>
>> BTW, Amazon used to be an online bookstore. Amazing how it turned into a
>> grocery store. Jeff Bezos is laughing all the way to the bank.
>
>Who is he and why is he laughing?

Jeff Bezos is trhe CEO of Amazon. Rich beyond measure almost! Part of
the billionaire Ownership Class!

John Kuthe...

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/26/2015 5:58 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:17:54 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/26/2015 3:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> Although I had read something about this, I did not understand the
>>>>>> full
>>>>>> ramifications of this until I tried to place an order. Even then,
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are not being totally forthcoming.
>>>>>>
>>>>> (snippage)
>>>>>
>>>>> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot.
>>>>> You're
>>>>> "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage to go to
>>>>> the store. You've got three cars and two other people living with
>>>>> you.
>>>>> Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin' store.
>>>>> (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask your
>>>> permission before we buy something online?
>>>
>>> That would be useful. Don't want to get into trouble for not getting
>>> permission now do we? Perhaps we should all have the number!
>>
>> That would be good. I sometimes buy wine online and I'm not disabled.
>> Does that make me a bad person?
>>
> If you get a good deal, no problem.
>
> Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook? How about you post a recipe,
> something you've actually prepared, rather than sit here kissing Ophelia?
> You two are peas in a pod, bouncing off each other in defense of
> "bullying".
>
> OB Food: Baked cod tonight. I thought about making it yesterday but
> decided to hold off until tonight. And gee, I even went to the store and
> bought it. I had a nice chat with the woman who works at the fish counter
> about ways to prepare it while she was wrapping up the fish. Shopping at
> an actual store. Go figure.

Now you're attacking Bruce?

I made pizza tonight. Four of them. Can't remember the brand but par baked
crust from Coscto. Very good and comes with sauce but they seem to have
only once a year. I got some tiny, cute little pepperoni slices and some
cooked and crumbled sausage. One pizza has both kinds of meat. One has
only pepperoni. One has assorted cheeses. About half mozzarella and the
rest is whatever scraps I had left in the fridge, shredded. This is how my
MIL always made her pizza. Mine has Daiya cheese and pine nuts. Extra
sauce on the side. The sauce is jarred. I think I got it at Big Lots but
not sure. So while I did use the oven, and I did produce a meal, I didn't
exactly cook it.

I was able to get all of what I needed at Albertsons today but I had a very
small list and I left there with two bags, not even filled. It was not the
brand of ground beef that I wanted and I would have preferred to get more
fresh fruit but I didn't want to run all over.

Next time I go out the Lynnwood way I will just have to buy more. I didn't
need enough to warrant the gas or the time to go out there. But mainly I
can get most of what I need between Costco, Winco and the Walmart food
center. None of those places has the bread I can eat. But there is hope.
Some stores do carry that brand which is the Dave's Killer. But they do not
carry the specific variety I can eat. The Albertsons near us does have it
now as does Safeway. And I noticed today that they had the thin sliced. So
there is hope that the other stores will carry it.

I just wish these places were closer to me. PCC will be coming in this
summer so that should help a lot.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/26/2015 3:06 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:19:42 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/26/2015 5:58 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:17:54 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot.
>>>>>>> You're
>>>>>>> "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage to go
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the store. You've got three cars and two other people living with
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>> Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin' store.
>>>>>>> (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask your
>>>>>> permission before we buy something online?
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be useful. Don't want to get into trouble for not getting
>>>>> permission now do we? Perhaps we should all have the number!
>>>>
>>>> That would be good. I sometimes buy wine online and I'm not disabled.
>>>> Does that make me a bad person?
>>>>
>>> If you get a good deal, no problem.
>>>
>>> Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook? How about you post a recipe,
>>> something you've actually prepared, rather than sit here kissing
>>> Ophelia? You two are peas in a pod, bouncing off each other in defense
>>> of "bullying".
>>
>> I commented on a post of yours that had nothing to do with cooking,
>> but was one big, unnecessary bitchfest. If you had stuck to cooking
>> yourself, I wouldn't have commented off-topic either.
>>
> You still didn't answer the question. How about a post about what YOU
> have cooked? Hmmmm. Didn't think so.

Are you in charge of this group? Didn't think so!

I did make a post about food. And I have since looked it up. Apparently
those in the Bay area and LA/San Diego have no problem paying the $299
yearly fee. People in Seattle are not liking it though and bailing out in
droves. What oh what is Amazon going to do with all of that non-perishable
food now? I presume they can sell the shelf stable stuff on their regular
site.

I have also signed up for Insta Cart when it becomes available here.
Delivery from Costco, Whole Foods and Kroger. Don't know if that would
include Fred Meyers or QFC but it's only $99 a year. I will likely do that
as those places are a bit of a drive for me.