On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 10:15:40 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
> > >
> > > We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
> > > and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > sf
> >
> > Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high speed conduit for streaming on demand.
>
> Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
> they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
> an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
> me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
> a middle man.
>
> --
>
> sf

I agree, nothing is free. What I'm saying is that traditional cable is going to be left out of the loop unless they can evolve. These are the days when people will be looking to disconnect from these old services - telephone, cable, even electricity.

http://www.techhive.com/article/2996...ee-roku-3.html

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:38:42 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 10:15:40 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
> > > >
> > > > We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
> > > > and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > sf
> > >
> > > Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high speed conduit for streaming on demand.
> >
> > Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
> > they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
> > an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
> > me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
> > a middle man.
> >
> > --
> >
> > sf
>
> I agree, nothing is free. What I'm saying is that traditional cable is going to be left out of the loop unless they can evolve. These are the days when people will be looking to disconnect from these old services - telephone, cable, even electricity.
>
> http://www.techhive.com/article/2996...ee-roku-3.html

This makes sense. Their cable box is TiVo technology, isn't it?

--

sf

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
>>
>> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
>> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf
>
>Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high speed conduit for streaming on demand.

I did that over 6 years ago!! TV, who needs it!! Pay TV that's more
streaming ADVERTISING than banal programming? Not ME kids!! **** that!

I Killed My Television too!

John Kuthe...

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I am fine with my phone.
>
> Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.

As I said, everything here is online now. There are phone numbers and if
you call them, you are directed to the website. There is likely nothing I
can do about the boat or trailer. I don't think he is in violation of
anything.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/27/2015 9:32 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I am fine with my phone.
>>
>> Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.
>>
> She'd rather just complain about it here. There's nothing we can do about
> it.

Didn't say that there was. Just like we can't do a thing about your club.
Why do you mention it?

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-10-27 10:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/27/2015 9:32 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am fine with my phone.
>>>
>>> Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.
>>>
>> She'd rather just complain about it here. There's nothing we can do
>> about it.
>
> True, but all she really wanted was for people to pay some attention to
> her or talk about her.

No, Durweed. I was agreeing with people.

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>
>> > Of course, once they have people hooked, they raise the prices...it's
>> > the
>> > way of the world.
>>
>> But they have lost their customers now so it's not working for them.
>
> Customers like you were the loss-leader start-up guineapigs they used
> to practise and refine the fresh ordering/delivery system. Your penny-
> saver, last-minute-small-order style of online shopping probably cost
> more to service and deliver than any profit Amazon made from you.
>
> Having built a large enough customer base of affluent big spenders they
> have no further incentive to keep loss-making small-purse shoppers on
> board ; it makes more sense to get rid of you.

And yet, that's not happening. I checked again last night. Customers are
leaving in droves. That was apparent to me when I contacted them.

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
>> > Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook?
>>
>> Now you're attacking Bruce?
>
> You must be the last person here who has never noticed "Bruce" never
> talks about food, meals and cooking. "His" sole function is riding shot-
> gun on Ophelia's broken down bandwagon.

I have noticed that he's not mean.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 01:25:37 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Schwans only charges $1.75 to deliver.
>
> I wondered what the big whoop was about Schwans - especially to this
> supposed cooking crowd. Is there a minimum order at $1.75 each?

Yes. $50. And I had a hard time meeting that with my first order. They
were out of stock on some of what I tried to get. We really don't eat a lot
of frozen food. My last order was a lot of ice cream. That will last us a
long time. Guy came to the door on the week when I placed no order. Said
he could sell me stuff off of the truck. But I had no freezer space. I
doubt that I will ever need to order every two weeks. Probably not even
once a month.

On 10/26/2015 11:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/26/2015 3:06 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:19:42 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/26/2015 5:58 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:17:54 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot.
>>>>>>>> You're
>>>>>>>> "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage to
>>>>>>>> go to
>>>>>>>> the store. You've got three cars and two other people living
>>>>>>>> with you.
>>>>>>>> Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin' store.
>>>>>>>> (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask your
>>>>>>> permission before we buy something online?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would be useful. Don't want to get into trouble for not getting
>>>>>> permission now do we? Perhaps we should all have the number!
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be good. I sometimes buy wine online and I'm not disabled.
>>>>> Does that make me a bad person?
>>>>>
>>>> If you get a good deal, no problem.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook? How about you post a recipe,
>>>> something you've actually prepared, rather than sit here kissing
>>>> Ophelia? You two are peas in a pod, bouncing off each other in defense
>>>> of "bullying".
>>>
>>> I commented on a post of yours that had nothing to do with cooking,
>>> but was one big, unnecessary bitchfest. If you had stuck to cooking
>>> yourself, I wouldn't have commented off-topic either.
>>>
>> You still didn't answer the question. How about a post about what YOU
>> have cooked? Hmmmm. Didn't think so.
>
> Are you in charge of this group? Didn't think so!
>
> I did make a post about food.

I was not talking to you.

Jill

On 10/27/2015 3:29 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
>
> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>
Exactly. But if you don't inquire, they'll get away with charging more.

Jill

On 10/27/2015 4:15 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
>>>
>>> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
>>> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sf
>>
>> Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high speed conduit for streaming on demand.
>
> Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
> they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
> an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
> me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
> a middle man.
>
I wouldn't worry about it. dsi1 is waiting for the self-driving car.
The road leading to Dataw leading is flooded right now. (Weird, because
with all the rain last month there was no flooding.)

I don't even want to think about how a self-driving car would handle
that. Maybe he'd like to drive right into the marsh. Buried at sea.

Jill

On 10/27/2015 11:48 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:38:42 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 10:15:40 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
>>>>> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> sf
>>>>
>>>> Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high speed conduit for streaming on demand.
>>>
>>> Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
>>> they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
>>> an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
>>> me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
>>> a middle man.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sf
>>
>> I agree, nothing is free. What I'm saying is that traditional cable is going to be left out of the loop unless they can evolve. These are the days when people will be looking to disconnect from these old services - telephone, cable, even electricity.
>>
>> http://www.techhive.com/article/2996...ee-roku-3.html
>
> This makes sense. Their cable box is TiVo technology, isn't it?
>

Beats the heck out of me. I don't have the box with the DVR in it but
you're probably right about this.

On 10/27/2015 12:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
>>>
>>> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
>>> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sf
>>
>> Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high speed conduit for streaming on demand.
>
> I did that over 6 years ago!! TV, who needs it!! Pay TV that's more
> streaming ADVERTISING than banal programming? Not ME kids!! **** that!
>
> I Killed My Television too!

My guess is that you snuck up on it and whacked it on the side with an
aluminum baseball bat! Am I right. Am I right?!?!

>
> John Kuthe...
>

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> As for saving money if you don't ask it will never happen. I called
>> Comcast (my television and Internet provider) because my bill jumped way
>> up. I pointed out I have alternatives. The person checked and voila!
>> They dropped the price back down.
>
> Good idea, Jill. My cable tv bill is insane now. I've been tempted to
> cancel it all and just watch the 6 local channels with the bad
> reception and save $80 per month. Trouble is...most of the channels I
> like are only available on cable and I still don't get many cable
> channels that I would like to have.
>
> Right now, I have all the channels available without having to rent
> their cable box too, even though my tv is cable ready. A minor upgrade
> for me would give me about 10 more channels that I would enjoy but
> also about 20 more that I would never watch. Plus then paying monthly
> for the box.

Yep, used to come right through the wall with no boxes and no extra charge
for extra rooms, then boxes for all rooms with no cost, then the monthly
price for all the boxes started.

Cheri

On 10/27/2015 1:06 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/27/2015 4:15 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the
>>>>> grease.
>>>>
>>>> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
>>>> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> sf
>>>
>>> Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most
>>> folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high
>>> speed conduit for streaming on demand.
>>
>> Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
>> they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
>> an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
>> me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
>> a middle man.
>>
> I wouldn't worry about it. dsi1 is waiting for the self-driving car.
> The road leading to Dataw leading is flooded right now. (Weird, because
> with all the rain last month there was no flooding.)
>
> I don't even want to think about how a self-driving car would handle
> that. Maybe he'd like to drive right into the marsh. Buried at sea.
>
> Jill

Obviously, the car would simply stop and find an alternate route. What's
the problem?

http://recode.net/2015/10/27/meet-th...d-maybe-apple/

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:51:24 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> Everything is a judgment here, I can just see a few of these posters
>> taking
>> time to scream out obscenities every few minutes when cooking their
>> *perfect* meals just to stay in practice for this newsgoup. LOL
>
> +1 Thinking of the inevitable diatribe that comes up from certain
> individuals every time some innocent says they made "boneless pork
> ribs" (or whatever the term is) for dinner.
>
> --
>
> sf

Always, no matter what is cooked, how it's cooked, ingredients, etc. someone
has something negative to say about it and not just negative in some cases,
but just plain hateful. At some point people start to think why bother.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:53:36 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> It has seemed that the more they expand the quality is going downhill in
>> some areas.
>
> I've had zero problem with Amazon, but I don't use it at the rate she
> does either.
>
> --
>
> sf

I don't have many problems with them, and whenever I did, it was solved
quickly, but some of my friends are complaining a bit.

Cheri

In article >,
lid says...
>
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:17:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >On 10/26/2015 4:45 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >
> >> All good reasons. In my case: the online wine shop sometimes has good
> >> offers and it's a half an hour drive to the shops. We have to plan
> >> ahead though, because delivery can take a week.
> >>
> >
> >Keep some stock. I keep four or five cases around so there is always
> >something to use. I keep 20 bottles of white at 47 degrees and 20
> >bottles of reds at 58 degrees the rest at room temperature. .
>
> We do keep stock. We buy a couple of cases at a time. That's also
> smarter with the cost of shipping if it's an online purchase. It's
> hard to try new stuff online, though. I once bought 24 bottles of red
> that we both hated.

+1
Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> "The New Other Guy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 21:04:18 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> I saw a Schwann truck a few months ago!
> >>
> >>Was it at my house? I got them when they did the big Facebook promotion.
> >>I
> >>just cooked up a clearance grill pack a couple of days ago. Two hamburger
> >>patties, two pork chops and two steaks. I don't normally like frozen meat
> >>but it was around $7 for the six pieces. No complaints. I didn't eat any
> >>of that meat but I suspect that the Amazon meat is better.
> >
> > I started ordering from Schwann's about 7 years ago.
> >
> > Then I was diagnosed with high blood pressure, and told
> > I should watch my salt intake, and their meat dishes are
> > NOT low sodium in any way. AND they're expensive, but
> > excellent quality.
> >
> > I still order some things from them when I can,
> > like their cheese stuffed breadsticks. Heavenly!
>
> Oh! I did get the cheese stuffed pretzels. I think of all the things that
> they sell, the only things I could possibly eat are the plain fruits and
> vegetables and I likely won't eat those. I did try something that they made
> many years ago. It was like biscuits and gravy but instead of a biscuit it
> was shaped like a flat bowl and filled with the gravy. It was quite good.
>
> I only placed the initial order because it came onto Facebook right at the
> time when I had to get rid of all the frozen and refrigerated food due to
> the power outage. But the delivery day was not clear. I thought I was
> getting the food the following day but it was almost two days later.
>
> I am on a BP med but am not currently having any problems. I did have sky
> high BP in the ER when I had the weird allergic reaction, the source of
> which is still unknown but it made my nose swell up inside and out and gave
> me head to toe hives, including my eyes. At times I have had very low BP
> and I had a Dr. tell me to increase my salt intake. To me this is laughable
> because I am one who is not affected by sodium.
>
> I mainly ordered their stuff for my husband and am hoping that perhaps my
> daughter and her friends will eat some. They mostly seem to like chicken
> nuggets/strips and fries. And I would rather have some in the freezer than
> to have them decide that they want to go buy some. My daughter knows how to
> find good buys but her friends do not seem to so they will buy some small
> portion of some expensive thing. I just hear mention of food then I heat
+1
Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> .
>
> shut up
+1
Cheri

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:45:17 -0700, Cheri > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> .
>>
>> shut up
>+1
>Cheri

Cheri, my aching ass. How about Checkmate sock city sucking his own
dick. LOL.

--
Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

"It is my learned opinion that a man
should not mince words just to spare
the sensibilities of the thin-skinned
or the ignorant."

In article >,
says...


>
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:45:17 -0700, Cheri > wrote:
>
> >In article >, says...
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> shut up
> >+1
> >Cheri
>
> Cheri, my aching ass. How about Checkmate sock city sucking his own
> dick. LOL.

Guess again, Geppetto.

--
Checkmate, AUK DoW #1
Official AUK Award Giver-Outer
Copyright © 2015
all rights reserved

In article >, cherig3
@newsguy.com says...


>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > .
> >
> > shut up
> +1
> Cheri

+1

--
Checkmate, AUK DoW #1
Official AUK Award Giver-Outer
Copyright © 2015
all rights reserved

Cheri wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> .
>>
>> shut up
> +1
> Cheri

yay

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:45:17 -0700, Cheri > wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> shut up
>> +1
>> Cheri
>
> Cheri, my aching ass. How about Checkmate sock city sucking his own
> dick. LOL.

not with that ip and time zone

On 10/27/2015 6:08 PM, % wrote:
> Cheri wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> shut up
>> +1
>> Cheri
>
> yay
+1
--
Barbara J Llorente, 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

On 10/27/2015 5:48 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:45:17 -0700, Cheri > wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> shut up
>> +1
>> Cheri
>
> Cheri, my aching ass.
So, your in tight with Sheldon and call your ass Cheri?
--
Barbara J Llorente, 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

On 10/26/2015 8:23 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 19:53:30 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> snip
>> I understand why she's upset but no one is going to give her the
>> convenience of fresh food delivery without charging for it.
>>
>> Jill
>
> they could increase the cost of all their inventory by 35 - 40 %. That
> may cover the cost of warehousing, trucks, maintenance, fuel, labor
> and various insurance. All that stuff costs somebody somewhere.
> Janet US
>

It comes down to what works in the marketplace. You pay the $200 one
time and forget about it for 11 months Then you buy a jar of peanut
butter for $2 versus $2.25 at the supermarket and think you are saving.
It it was $2.30 you think Amazon is high priced even though it may be
that in the end.

On 10/27/2015 2:11 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:17:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 10/26/2015 4:45 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> All good reasons. In my case: the online wine shop sometimes has good
>>> offers and it's a half an hour drive to the shops. We have to plan
>>> ahead though, because delivery can take a week.
>>>
>>
>> Keep some stock. I keep four or five cases around so there is always
>> something to use. I keep 20 bottles of white at 47 degrees and 20
>> bottles of reds at 58 degrees the rest at room temperature. .
>
> We do keep stock. We buy a couple of cases at a time. That's also
> smarter with the cost of shipping if it's an online purchase. It's
> hard to try new stuff online, though. I once bought 24 bottles of red
> that we both hated.
>

I get mixed cases, usually whites and reds. Personal taste, of course,
but there are always some better than others but all but a couple of
bottles were finished.

On 10/27/2015 4:27 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

> Well, I'm more about me saving money. I would be willing to pay a
> delivery fee for each delivery. Even $10! I'd just order more at a
> time but less often. But no way would I pay $200 per year. That's insane!

How many deliveries would you get? One every other week? That is the
same as the $20 you are willing to pay.

It may have been free up to now but nothing is truly free. When I
signed up for EZ Pass to pay tolls, it was free to belong too. When the
had a couple of million subscribers the started charging $1 a month. I
don't know of anyone dropping it for the additional cost.

Amazon may have lost you, but now the have $300 a year coming in from a
lot of people. Those people will buy even more from them so the get
their moneys worth.

If Amazon Fresh goes out of business I will apologize to you and admit
you know better than Bezos.

On 10/27/2015 9:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/26/2015 8:23 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 19:53:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>> snip
>>> I understand why she's upset but no one is going to give her the
>>> convenience of fresh food delivery without charging for it.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> they could increase the cost of all their inventory by 35 - 40 %. That
>> may cover the cost of warehousing, trucks, maintenance, fuel, labor
>> and various insurance. All that stuff costs somebody somewhere.
>> Janet US
>>
>
> It comes down to what works in the marketplace. You pay the $200 one
> time and forget about it for 11 months Then you buy a jar of peanut
> butter for $2 versus $2.25 at the supermarket and think you are saving.
> It it was $2.30 you think Amazon is high priced even though it may be
> that in the end.

How dare you mention peanut butter.

Jill

On 10/27/2015 10:13 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/27/2015 4:27 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>> Well, I'm more about me saving money. I would be willing to pay a
>> delivery fee for each delivery. Even $10! I'd just order more at a
>> time but less often. But no way would I pay $200 per year. That's
>> insane!
>
> How many deliveries would you get? One every other week? That is the
> same as the $20 you are willing to pay.
>
> It may have been free up to now but nothing is truly free. When I
> signed up for EZ Pass to pay tolls, it was free to belong too. When the
> had a couple of million subscribers the started charging $1 a month. I
> don't know of anyone dropping it for the additional cost.
>
> Amazon may have lost you, but now the have $300 a year coming in from a
> lot of people. Those people will buy even more from them so the get
> their moneys worth.
>
> If Amazon Fresh goes out of business I will apologize to you and admit
> you know better than Bezos.

Ed, she doesn't get it. And she doesn't know who Jeff Bezos is even
though she's lining his pockets.

Jill

"The New Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 01:46:04 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
> wrote:
>
>>I am on a BP med but am not currently having any problems. I did have sky
>>high BP in the ER when I had the weird allergic reaction, \
>
> in 2010, I had a nose bleed that I couldn't stop, so had a friend take
> me to the local hospital ER. BP was 240/140!
>
> Not controlled well with 2 medications.
>
>> I had a Dr. tell me to increase my salt intake. To me this is laughable
>>because I am one who is not affected by sodium.
>
> I'm also not salt sensitive, extremely low salt diet had no effect after
> more than 6 months. Stopping limiting salt ALSO had no effect.

Nosebleed is how my friend discovered here high BP. And now that I think
about it, I had a bad bleed prior to going to the ER with the allergic
reaction.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 20:19:32 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Now you're attacking Bruce?
>
> Bruce is about as useful as a festering zit here. He's just here for
> the drama, kinda like you. You two feed each other.
>
> Speaking of which, I think your month of freedom is up. You've been
> flooding this group with more than usual nonsense lately so it's time
> to trim more of the noise.
>
>> I made pizza tonight...
>
> And there you go again turning the discussion back to you.

So? Pizza is food. No? I just ate the rest of mine and also some of those
canned baby pears. I won't be buying those again. They were cute but
certainly not worth the expense.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 10:15:40 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>> > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the
>> > > > grease.
>> > >
>> > > We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
>> > > and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > sf
>> >
>> > Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most
>> > folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high
>> > speed conduit for streaming on demand.
>>
>> Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
>> they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
>> an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
>> me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
>> a middle man.
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf
>
> I agree, nothing is free. What I'm saying is that traditional cable is
> going to be left out of the loop unless they can evolve. These are the
> days when people will be looking to disconnect from these old services -
> telephone, cable, even electricity.
>
> http://www.techhive.com/article/2996...ee-roku-3.html

Not me. I don't want to give up my landline. I hate cell phones. Hate
them! Rather necessary these days but I'll keep mine only for when I need
it. I'm fine with cable too. Hate dish and don't want to watch stuff on my
computer, phone or tablet. Also don't care about On Demand.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/26/2015 11:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 10/26/2015 3:06 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:19:42 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/26/2015 5:58 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:17:54 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot.
>>>>>>>>> You're
>>>>>>>>> "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage to
>>>>>>>>> go to
>>>>>>>>> the store. You've got three cars and two other people living
>>>>>>>>> with you.
>>>>>>>>> Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin' store.
>>>>>>>>> (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> permission before we buy something online?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would be useful. Don't want to get into trouble for not
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> permission now do we? Perhaps we should all have the number!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would be good. I sometimes buy wine online and I'm not disabled.
>>>>>> Does that make me a bad person?
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you get a good deal, no problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook? How about you post a recipe,
>>>>> something you've actually prepared, rather than sit here kissing
>>>>> Ophelia? You two are peas in a pod, bouncing off each other in
>>>>> defense
>>>>> of "bullying".
>>>>
>>>> I commented on a post of yours that had nothing to do with cooking,
>>>> but was one big, unnecessary bitchfest. If you had stuck to cooking
>>>> yourself, I wouldn't have commented off-topic either.
>>>>
>>> You still didn't answer the question. How about a post about what YOU
>>> have cooked? Hmmmm. Didn't think so.
>>
>> Are you in charge of this group? Didn't think so!
>>
>> I did make a post about food.
>
> I was not talking to you.

I didn't say that you were.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:53:36 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It has seemed that the more they expand the quality is going downhill in
>>> some areas.
>>
>> I've had zero problem with Amazon, but I don't use it at the rate she
>> does either.
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf
>
> I don't have many problems with them, and whenever I did, it was solved
> quickly, but some of my friends are complaining a bit.

My problems were always resolved right away.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/27/2015 4:27 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>> Well, I'm more about me saving money. I would be willing to pay a
>> delivery fee for each delivery. Even $10! I'd just order more at a
>> time but less often. But no way would I pay $200 per year. That's
>> insane!
>
> How many deliveries would you get? One every other week? That is the
> same as the $20 you are willing to pay.

When I was getting the Safeway deliveries I had little choice. I think I
got maybe 3-4 total. Then never again. I was getting Amazon Fresh once or
twice a week but I would not do that if there was a delivery charge. In
reviewing stuff online, I had forgotten. They used to have something called
Big Radish status. You had to make so many orders, perhaps over a certain
amount and then the delivery would be free. Because I was ordering so much
and often, I did acheive that right away.

They also sold things back then that they do not know. Such as prepared
sandwiches, fresh desserts and restaurant meals. Yes, there are some
restaurant meals but not nearly as many as they used to have.
>
> It may have been free up to now but nothing is truly free. When I signed
> up for EZ Pass to pay tolls, it was free to belong too. When the had a
> couple of million subscribers the started charging $1 a month. I don't
> know of anyone dropping it for the additional cost.

EZ Pass was never free for us. But at least here it can save money over
having to pay each time we take a toll road.
>
> Amazon may have lost you, but now the have $300 a year coming in from a
> lot of people. Those people will buy even more from them so the get their
> moneys worth.

We'll see. I'll be checking the comments daily. So far, nobody is happy
with this and everyone is ticked off.
>
> If Amazon Fresh goes out of business I will apologize to you and admit you
> know better than Bezos.

Okay. I also starting to worry about Amazon Prime. They have already said
that they will be cutting back on what they put on there. And I think they
already have. I used to be able to get cat litter on there. Not any more.
Now I use Walmart.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/27/2015 10:13 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 10/27/2015 4:27 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> Well, I'm more about me saving money. I would be willing to pay a
>>> delivery fee for each delivery. Even $10! I'd just order more at a
>>> time but less often. But no way would I pay $200 per year. That's
>>> insane!
>>
>> How many deliveries would you get? One every other week? That is the
>> same as the $20 you are willing to pay.
>>
>> It may have been free up to now but nothing is truly free. When I
>> signed up for EZ Pass to pay tolls, it was free to belong too. When the
>> had a couple of million subscribers the started charging $1 a month. I
>> don't know of anyone dropping it for the additional cost.
>>
>> Amazon may have lost you, but now the have $300 a year coming in from a
>> lot of people. Those people will buy even more from them so the get
>> their moneys worth.
>>
>> If Amazon Fresh goes out of business I will apologize to you and admit
>> you know better than Bezos.
>
> Ed, she doesn't get it. And she doesn't know who Jeff Bezos is even
> though she's lining his pockets.

How would you know what I get and don't get. Somebody told me who he is.
For the most part, I don't really care who owns what. With some exceptions.
Like Hobby Lobby. But that's for a different forum.

I just wish I could buy the items that I have been buying from Amazon Fresh
but I have been to every store there is within about a 12 mile radius and
nobody carries them.