jmcquown wrote:
>
> As for saving money if you don't ask it will never happen. I called
> Comcast (my television and Internet provider) because my bill jumped way
> up. I pointed out I have alternatives. The person checked and voila!
> They dropped the price back down.

Good idea, Jill. My cable tv bill is insane now. I've been tempted to
cancel it all and just watch the 6 local channels with the bad
reception and save $80 per month. Trouble is...most of the channels I
like are only available on cable and I still don't get many cable
channels that I would like to have.

Right now, I have all the channels available without having to rent
their cable box too, even though my tv is cable ready. A minor upgrade
for me would give me about 10 more channels that I would enjoy but
also about 20 more that I would never watch. Plus then paying monthly
for the box.

Companies will charge just as much as the market will bear. If enough
customers say, "enough," and actually cancel for a while, they will
back down. We customers just need to form a union to stick together
and go on strike when necessary.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I am fine with my phone.

Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 01:46:04 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:

>I am on a BP med but am not currently having any problems. I did have sky
>high BP in the ER when I had the weird allergic reaction, \

in 2010, I had a nose bleed that I couldn't stop, so had a friend take
me to the local hospital ER. BP was 240/140!

Not controlled well with 2 medications.

> I had a Dr. tell me to increase my salt intake. To me this is laughable
>because I am one who is not affected by sodium.

I'm also not salt sensitive, extremely low salt diet had no effect after
more than 6 months. Stopping limiting salt ALSO had no effect.

On 10/26/2015 09:21, John Kuthe wrote:

>
> !! !! !!!!
>
> John Kuthe...
>

/lurk mode off. You seem incapable of making your point without
exclamation marks after every single sentence in every single post.
Kind of like SHOUTING and YELLING.

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On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 08:28:43 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Right now, I have all the channels available without having to rent
>their cable box too, even though my tv is cable ready.

Time Warner has had that (for some, but NOT all channels), until very
recently, when they went all encrypted, forcing everyone to take a decoder
box, that's free for now but WILL cost in the future.

On 10/27/2015 9:32 AM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I am fine with my phone.
>
> Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.
>
She'd rather just complain about it here. There's nothing we can do
about it.

Jill

On 10/27/2015 9:28 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> As for saving money if you don't ask it will never happen. I called
>> Comcast (my television and Internet provider) because my bill jumped way
>> up. I pointed out I have alternatives. The person checked and voila!
>> They dropped the price back down.
>
> Good idea, Jill. My cable tv bill is insane now. I've been tempted to
> cancel it all and just watch the 6 local channels with the bad
> reception and save $80 per month. Trouble is...most of the channels I
> like are only available on cable and I still don't get many cable
> channels that I would like to have.
>
If I didn't have cable I likely wouldn't even have standard broadcast
channels. I threw out my rabbit ears a long time ago.

> Right now, I have all the channels available without having to rent
> their cable box too, even though my tv is cable ready. A minor upgrade
> for me would give me about 10 more channels that I would enjoy but
> also about 20 more that I would never watch. Plus then paying monthly
> for the box.
>
I don't have a cable box. The few times I've had to call about service
interruptions some of the technicians swear I *must* have a cable box.
Nope, I don't. The connection plugs directly from the TV into the wall.
And it works! Surprise!

> Companies will charge just as much as the market will bear.

Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Jill

On 2015-10-27 10:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/27/2015 9:32 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I am fine with my phone.
>>
>> Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.
>>
> She'd rather just complain about it here. There's nothing we can do
> about it.

True, but all she really wanted was for people to pay some attention to
her or talk about her.

Cheri wrote:
>
> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 06:19:41 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:20:47 -0500, John Kuthe >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are as SOCK PUPPET as can be!! PLONK!! Into my adaptive KILL
>>>> FILE!! Prepare to be IGNORED!!
>>>
>>> You'll never stop talking to the troll, admit it.
>>
>> I may talk AROUND it. Just not to it.
>>
>> Huge difference! Ask any troll/Sock Puppet!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
> Which is just as disrupting because it keeps the threads going, but you
> already know that...attention seeking at it's worst.
>
> Cheri


It appears he and several others, most notably Julie and Jill, suffer
from such a deficit of attention in their lives that they will overtly
court and seek the bullying of Steve Wertz.

This is one sick nest of lunatics for sure!

Cheri wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:05:32 -0500, John Kuthe >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's the rich capitalist's stupid game!!
>>>
>>> Only way to win the game is to NOT PLAY!!
>>
>> And yet you are participating in the game by selling candy.
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf
>
> LOL, ingredients bought from capitalists no doubt.
>
> Cheri


EVIL capitalists, as Bunhee Sondahs would tell us.

"Eat the rich, till their are no rich no more..."

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 20:23:34 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 10/26/2015 3:06 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:19:42 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/26/2015 5:58 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:17:54 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 04:30:16 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fer cryin' out loud. Who buys groceries online? Oh, I forgot.
>>>>>>>>>> You're
>>>>>>>>>> "disabled". (sigh) Plenty of people with disabilities manage
>>>>>>>>>> to go
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> the store. You've got three cars and two other people living
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>> Surely someone in your household can get to the freakin'
>>>>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>>>>> (Whether or not they choose to is a different matter.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you have a phone number or an email address where we can ask
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> permission before we buy something online?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would be useful. Don't want to get into trouble for not
>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> permission now do we? Perhaps we should all have the number!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would be good. I sometimes buy wine online and I'm not
>>>>>>> disabled.
>>>>>>> Does that make me a bad person?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you get a good deal, no problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook? How about you post a recipe,
>>>>>> something you've actually prepared, rather than sit here kissing
>>>>>> Ophelia? You two are peas in a pod, bouncing off each other in
>>>>>> defense
>>>>>> of "bullying".
>>>>>
>>>>> I commented on a post of yours that had nothing to do with cooking,
>>>>> but was one big, unnecessary bitchfest. If you had stuck to cooking
>>>>> yourself, I wouldn't have commented off-topic either.
>>>>>
>>>> You still didn't answer the question. How about a post about what YOU
>>>> have cooked? Hmmmm. Didn't think so.
>>>
>>> Are you in charge of this group? Didn't think so!
>>>
>>> I did make a post about food.
>>
>> Uh, she wasn't talking to YOU.
>>
>>
>>> And I have since looked it up. Apparently
>>> those in the Bay area and LA/San Diego have no problem paying the $299
>>> yearly fee. People in Seattle are not liking it though and bailing
>>> out in
>>> droves.
>>
>> How do you know all these statistics about how people are using Amazon
>> in LA, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose and Seattle? Since you seem
>> to have access to their database, I'd like to see Powerpoint
>> presentation on all these statistics compared to Planet Bothell.
>>
>> IOW, stop pretending like you know Amazon's demographics trying to
>> convince us that everybody in Seattle thinks JUST LIKE YOU. Because
>> they don't. You're only an expert on the planet of Bothell.
>
> I don't have their data base. I looked online. Apparently this notice

It's official - Julie is a head case who is locked in an abusive
relationship with Steve Wertz.

She craves HIS attention SO much she'll take it as abuse, bullying,
insults, you name it.

Any old way he wants to beat her up is fin with Julie.

Sick.

jmcquown wrote:
>>> Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook? How about you post a recipe,
>>> something you've actually prepared, rather than sit here kissing
>>> Ophelia? You two are peas in a pod, bouncing off each other in defense
>>> of "bullying".
>>>
>>> OB Food: Baked cod tonight. I thought about making it yesterday but
>>> decided to hold off until tonight. And gee, I even went to the store
>>> and bought it. I had a nice chat with the woman who works at the fish
>>> counter about ways to prepare it while she was wrapping up the fish.
>>> Shopping at an actual store. Go figure.
>>
>> Now you're attacking Bruce?
>>
> God bless. I'm not attacking Bruce. It's a discussion. I have no idea
> what you think RFC is but AFAIK Bruce has never posted a recipe or
> mentioned anything he has cooked that I am aware of. He's too busy
> licking your boots and bitching about what I post. I sure hope you and
> your royal highness are enjoying it.
>
> Jill


You're a catty little bitch by any standards, and in a den of head cases
like this you may not be the most lunatic, but you're easily one of the
most spiteful and nasty.

Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> D often buys stuff online, usually things he
>> can't buy anywhere else but ... we all do what is best for ourselves and it
>> is nobody else's business.
>>
>
> Ophy - defender of bullying. :-D
>

Weaasel man, defender of Swertty, King of bullies.

Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> God bless. I'm not attacking Bruce. It's a discussion. I have no idea
>> what you think RFC is but AFAIK Bruce has never posted a recipe or
>> mentioned anything he has cooked that I am aware of. He's too busy
>> licking your boots and bitching about what I post. I sure hope you and
>> your royal highness are enjoying it.
>
> lol MEOW!
>

Like YOU are any better, Sqwerty suckophant?

You weasel-assed little phony@!

Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I am fine with my phone.
>
> Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.
>

I suggest she jam it up yer phony arsehole, weasel-man.

But then she loves bullying, so you may as well join your hero Sqwerty
and just abuse her.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-10-27 10:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/27/2015 9:32 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am fine with my phone.
>>>
>>> Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.
>>>
>> She'd rather just complain about it here. There's nothing we can do
>> about it.
>
> True, but all she really wanted was for people to pay some attention to
> her or talk about her.
>

You appear, in the final analysis, to be correct about Julie.

My bad.

You were right.

She's a unbalanced attention whore who will take good or bad, just as
long as she get's some attention.

In article >, says...
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message

> > Of course, once they have people hooked, they raise the prices...it's the
> > way of the world.
>
> But they have lost their customers now so it's not working for them.

Customers like you were the loss-leader start-up guineapigs they used
to practise and refine the fresh ordering/delivery system. Your penny-
saver, last-minute-small-order style of online shopping probably cost
more to service and deliver than any profit Amazon made from you.

Having built a large enough customer base of affluent big spenders they
have no further incentive to keep loss-making small-purse shoppers on
board ; it makes more sense to get rid of you.


Janet UK.

Janet wrote:
> it makes more sense to get rid of you.
>
>
> Janet UK.

You're an evil tart!

In article >, says...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message

> > Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook?
>
> Now you're attacking Bruce?

You must be the last person here who has never noticed "Bruce" never
talks about food, meals and cooking. "His" sole function is riding shot-
gun on Ophelia's broken down bandwagon.

Janet UK

..

shut up

Sqwertz wrote:
> Don't do cable since I just download everything I
> want to watch (which isn't much).
>
> -sw


Bit torrent criminal?

Figures.

Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
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I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
>>> Bruce, what, if anything, do you cook?
>>
>> Now you're attacking Bruce?
>
> You must be the last person here who has never noticed "Bruce" never
> talks about food, meals and cooking. "His" sole function is riding shot-
> gun on Ophelia's broken down bandwagon.
>
> Janet UK
>
That one you have right.

% wrote:
> .
>
> shut up

GO **** YOURSELF!

Sqwertz wrote:
> The decoder boxes (and TiVos) also track your viewing habits.


Do they track your stalking habits?

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Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
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I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:11:31 -0700, "%" > wrote:

>.
>
>shut up

See dickless liar Sock Puppet asshole!! You **** others off too!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:11:31 -0700, "%" > wrote:
>
>> .
>>
>> shut up
>
> See dickless liar Sock Puppet asshole!! You **** others off too!
>
> John Kuthe...
>

Pssst....he shops at Wal Mart too!

Tee hee

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:58:47 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>
>> > Of course, once they have people hooked, they raise the prices...it's the
>> > way of the world.
>>
>> But they have lost their customers now so it's not working for them.
>
> Customers like you were the loss-leader start-up guineapigs they used
>to practise and refine the fresh ordering/delivery system. Your penny-
>saver, last-minute-small-order style of online shopping probably cost
>more to service and deliver than any profit Amazon made from you.
>
>Having built a large enough customer base of affluent big spenders they
>have no further incentive to keep loss-making small-purse shoppers on
>board ; it makes more sense to get rid of you.
>
>
> Janet UK.
+1 exactly. She was part of the market study.
Janet US

On 10/27/2015 9:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/27/2015 9:32 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I am fine with my phone.
>>
>> Then use it to solve the boat and trailer problem that annoys you.
>>
> She'd rather just complain about it here. There's nothing we can do
> about it.
>

Well, there is, actually: don't give her what she comes here for.

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 01:25:37 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Schwans only charges $1.75 to deliver.

I wondered what the big whoop was about Schwans - especially to this
supposed cooking crowd. Is there a minimum order at $1.75 each?


--

sf

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 06:45:48 -0700, The New Other Guy
> wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 08:28:43 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Right now, I have all the channels available without having to rent
> >their cable box too, even though my tv is cable ready.
>
> Time Warner has had that (for some, but NOT all channels), until very
> recently, when they went all encrypted, forcing everyone to take a decoder
> box, that's free for now but WILL cost in the future.
>
There's always the option to buy one of your own.

--

sf

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.

--

sf

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:58:47 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> Having built a large enough customer base of affluent big spenders they
> have no further incentive to keep loss-making small-purse shoppers on
> board ; it makes more sense to get rid of you.

Bingo. The $200 buy in was no mistake.

--

sf

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:51:24 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> Everything is a judgment here, I can just see a few of these posters taking
> time to scream out obscenities every few minutes when cooking their
> *perfect* meals just to stay in practice for this newsgoup. LOL

+1 Thinking of the inevitable diatribe that comes up from certain
individuals every time some innocent says they made "boneless pork
ribs" (or whatever the term is) for dinner.

--

sf

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:53:36 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> It has seemed that the more they expand the quality is going downhill in
> some areas.

I've had zero problem with Amazon, but I don't use it at the rate she
does either.

--

sf

On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
>
> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>
> --
>
> sf

Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high speed conduit for streaming on demand.

On 10/28/2015 2:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 20:19:32 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Now you're attacking Bruce?
>
> Bruce is about as useful as a festering zit here. He's just here for
> the drama, kinda like you. You two feed each other.
>
> Speaking of which, I think your month of freedom is up. You've been
> flooding this group with more than usual nonsense lately so it's time
> to trim more of the noise.
>
>> I made pizza tonight...
>
> And there you go again turning the discussion back to you.
>
> -sw
>
+1
--
Barbara J Llorente, 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

On 10/28/2015 3:11 AM, % wrote:
> .
>
> shut up
+1
--
Barbara J Llorente, 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
> >
> > We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
> > and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
> >
> > --
> >
> > sf
>
> Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high speed conduit for streaming on demand.

Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
a middle man.

--

sf

On 10/28/2015 7:15 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:34:42 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:04:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Exactly. What's that old adage? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
>>>
>>> We've renegotiated with Comcast every time they jacked up the price
>>> and usually come out of it with more than we went in with.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sf
>>
>> Their ship is sinking. My guess is that in a couple of years, most folks will have ditched cable. The only thing we'll need is a high speed conduit for streaming on demand.
>
> Nothing is free. You forgot about all the individual monthly fees
> they'll charge. I wanted to watch something on the tablet (had to DL
> an app) instead of On Demand and then found out they wanted to charge
> me for it. Even Youtube is charging now. No thanks, I'll go through
> a middle man.
>

--
Barbara J Llorente, 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

Hot Broth wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:11:31 -0700, "%" > wrote:
>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> shut up
>>
>> See dickless liar Sock Puppet asshole!! You **** others off too!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>
> Pssst....he shops at Wal Mart too!
>
> Tee hee

hey cold soup , shut up