On 10/5/2015 9:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> What did you have for dinner?

One of my all time favorite dinners - Rice Krispies with sliced fresh
strawberries. I use no sweetener, but I do indulge with half and half.
Yum!! (-:

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DreadfulBitch

I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.

On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact with
>>> during his occasional forays into society.
>>>
>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out and
>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People sneeze,
>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to them.
>
> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community, and
> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston and
> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
>
Guess we're just lucky. Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has COPD
for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections which
would require antibiotics.

Jill

On 10/10/2015 3:44 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> A fairy ring of puffballs I spotted walking about, about 12' diameter,
> some look eaten:
> http://i59.tinypic.com/2mexyt3.jpg

He wha tills the fairies’ green
Nae luck again shall hae
And he wha spills the fairies’ ring
Betide him want and wae
For weirdless days and weary nights
Are his till his deein’ day
But he wha gaes by the fairy ring
Nae dule nor pine shall see
And he wha cleans the fairy ring
An easy death shall dee.

Jill

On 10/10/2015 3:11 PM, rosie wrote:
> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:28:38 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>> Meatloaf, mashed potatoes and baked acorn squash. Nope, no pics.
>>
>> I've posted my meatloaf recipe here before. I like to make extra mashed
>> potatoes so I can make mashed potato pancakes. Even if I don't do that,
>> guess what? Mashed potatoes freeze well. So does meatloaf.
>>
>> What did you have for dinner?
>>
>> Jill
>
> Chicken picata with capers, mashed potatoes and fresh green beans.
>
Sounds good! I've got some boneless chicken thighs in the freezer I
need to use soon. I have capers in the fridge. One day next week
perhaps.

Jill

On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 4:42:35 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/10/2015 3:11 PM, rosie wrote:
> > On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:28:38 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> >> Meatloaf, mashed potatoes and baked acorn squash. Nope, no pics.
> >>
> >> I've posted my meatloaf recipe here before. I like to make extra mashed
> >> potatoes so I can make mashed potato pancakes. Even if I don't do that,
> >> guess what? Mashed potatoes freeze well. So does meatloaf.
> >>
> >> What did you have for dinner?
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Chicken picata with capers, mashed potatoes and fresh green beans.
> >
> Sounds good! I've got some boneless chicken thighs in the freezer I
> need to use soon. I have capers in the fridge. One day next week
> perhaps.
>
> Jill

don't forget lemons !!

On 2015-10-10 5:42 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> Chicken picata with capers, mashed potatoes and fresh green beans.
>>
> Sounds good! I've got some boneless chicken thighs in the freezer I
> need to use soon. I have capers in the fridge. One day next week
> perhaps.

When we have chicken thighs on hand my go to dish is Tandoori, though I
prefer it with bone in thighs.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> As you know I have two knee replacements but have never been advised to
>>> take
>>> antibiotics unless I have had an infection (usually chest) and that was
>>> always *for* the chest, not the knees. I've never had to take any
>>> before
>>> going to the dentist either. I guess different places advise
>>> differently.
>>>
>>> Interesting.
>>
>> When talking to the orthopedist about my knee replacement on several
>> occasions, he stressed to me that I would have to be very careful about
>> any kind of infection in the body, including any kind of tooth problem,
>> due to the infection moving to the replacement quickly. I decided not to
>> do it for now, if ever.
>
> Gosh I haven't heard anything about that. Odd, since infection in the
> first knee I had done nearly killed me.
>
> I will bear it in mind though, thank you.

I don't think it's changed much here because I just saw him July and he
again stressed it. He told me a horror story about one of his patients and
how quickly the infection went to the knee due to ignoring an infection in
another part of the body, so told me again that I would really have to keep
on top of it because of the diabetes and being a bit more prone to
infection.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
>>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact with
>>>> during his occasional forays into society.
>>>>
>>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out and
>>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People sneeze,
>>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to them.
>>
>> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community, and
>> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston and
>> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
>>
> Guess we're just lucky. Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has COPD
> for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
> might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections which
> would require antibiotics.
>
> Jill

I do too, and it does.

Cheri

On 10/10/2015 5:51 PM, rosie wrote:
> On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 4:42:35 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/10/2015 3:11 PM, rosie wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:28:38 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Meatloaf, mashed potatoes and baked acorn squash. Nope, no pics.
>>>>
>>>> I've posted my meatloaf recipe here before. I like to make extra mashed
>>>> potatoes so I can make mashed potato pancakes. Even if I don't do that,
>>>> guess what? Mashed potatoes freeze well. So does meatloaf.
>>>>
>>>> What did you have for dinner?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Chicken picata with capers, mashed potatoes and fresh green beans.
>>>
>> Sounds good! I've got some boneless chicken thighs in the freezer I
>> need to use soon. I have capers in the fridge. One day next week
>> perhaps.
>>
>> Jill
>
> don't forget lemons !!
>
Thanks! I need to put lemons on my list.

Jill

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:35:10 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
>>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact with
>>>> during his occasional forays into society.
>>>>
>>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out and
>>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People sneeze,
>>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to them.
>>
>> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community, and
>> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston and
>> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
>>
>Guess we're just lucky.

Some of us must have a higher natural resistance <shrug>.

I'll never forget when I was at college for my I.T courses years ago,
one time there was a particularly virulent flu going around the area.
The building was sealed, no natural air. Everyone was sick... I
resigned myself to becoming sick. Nope... not even then did I catch
the flu. I *have* caught the flu, but the last time that I can recall
was well over 30 years ago.

>Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has COPD
>for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
>might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections which
>would require antibiotics.

Yes, could be.

Je_us wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 11:18:09 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> Cheryl wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On 10/5/2015 10:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I've posted my meatloaf recipe here before. I like to make
> extra >> > > mashed potatoes so I can make mashed potato pancakes.
> Even if I >> > > don't do that, guess what? Mashed potatoes freeze
> well. So does >> > > meatloaf.
> >> >
> >> > I always make extra mashed taters because they also reheat well.
> >> > One of my favorite foods.
> >>
> >> I agree. Mashed potatoes are great just reheated in the microwave.
> No >> real need to turn them into something else.
> >
> > Oh! missed it and my answer was up there. Real ones freeze well.
> > Good to know!
> >
> > Mashed potato pancakes are a southern delight. I add green onions
> > (grow my own) and a little chilipotle power to them. Also, potato
> > dumplings are another use.
>
> That settles it - I'm making mashed potato tonight

I had some of them tonight. I'm getting over a nasty flu and was out
from work or working at home all last week (depending on the day).
Simple foods work for me right now.

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> As you know I have two knee replacements but have never been advised to
>>>> take
>>>> antibiotics unless I have had an infection (usually chest) and that was
>>>> always *for* the chest, not the knees. I've never had to take any
>>>> before
>>>> going to the dentist either. I guess different places advise
>>>> differently.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>> When talking to the orthopedist about my knee replacement on several
>>> occasions, he stressed to me that I would have to be very careful about
>>> any kind of infection in the body, including any kind of tooth problem,
>>> due to the infection moving to the replacement quickly. I decided not to
>>> do it for now, if ever.
>>
>> Gosh I haven't heard anything about that. Odd, since infection in the
>> first knee I had done nearly killed me.
>>
>> I will bear it in mind though, thank you.
>
> I don't think it's changed much here because I just saw him July and he
> again stressed it. He told me a horror story about one of his patients and
> how quickly the infection went to the knee due to ignoring an infection in
> another part of the body, so told me again that I would really have to
> keep on top of it because of the diabetes and being a bit more prone to
> infection.

I had a massive infection in the first knee I had done which I have
mentioned before, but although I get plenty of chest problems and often get
antibiotics for that, I have never been offered or advised to have any for
possible problems. Perhaps because I am very careful of my chest, infection
doesn't get a chance to spread.



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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
>>>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact with
>>>>> during his occasional forays into society.
>>>>>
>>>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out and
>>>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People
>>>> sneeze,
>>>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community, and
>>> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston and
>>> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
>>>
>> Guess we're just lucky. Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has COPD
>> for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
>> might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections which
>> would require antibiotics.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I do too, and it does.

I use a nebuliser too, and that relieves my problems Do you think the use
causes infection? I use it when I have infections because it gives some
relief.

The idea that it causes infection isn't something I had considered.
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On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 4:43:39 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
> >>>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
> >>>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact with
> >>>>> during his occasional forays into society.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out and
> >>>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People
> >>>> sneeze,
> >>>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to them..
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community, and
> >>> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston and
> >>> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
> >>>
> >> Guess we're just lucky. Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has COPD
> >> for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
> >> might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections which
> >> would require antibiotics.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > I do too, and it does.
>
> I use a nebuliser too, and that relieves my problems Do you think the use
> causes infection? I use it when I have infections because it gives some
> relief.
>
> The idea that it causes infection isn't something I had considered.

Steroids depress the immune response. Of course, not all inhalers
are steroids.

Cindy Hamilton

Cheryl wrote:
>
> On 10/6/2015 12:43 AM, Je�us wrote:
>
> > Sometimes I feel like telling them to be done with it and just rip all
> > my teeth out and give me dentures
>
> With my horrible teeth I felt the same way but I've been replacing them
> with implants. It's expensive but worth it.

I do get the impression that the implants are the next best thing to
real. Do you find this to be true? I still have all my teeth (3 are
crowned though). If I live long enough that will change eventually. I
suppose people get used to dentures but it's a scary thought to me.

Also with dentures, you would go for years with missing teeth before
requiring a full denture unless you just get many good ones pulled too
all at once. Partials sound like a pain to deal with (and scary too).
The implants sound like a good alternative if you can afford them. At
least with implants you can get one at a time as a real tooth needs to
come out.

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 4:43:39 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
>> >>>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
>> >>>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact
>> >>>>> with
>> >>>>> during his occasional forays into society.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People
>> >>>> sneeze,
>> >>>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to
>> >>>> them.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community,
>> >>> and
>> >>> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston and
>> >>> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
>> >>>
>> >> Guess we're just lucky. Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has
>> >> COPD
>> >> for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
>> >> might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections
>> >> which
>> >> would require antibiotics.
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >
>> > I do too, and it does.
>>
>> I use a nebuliser too, and that relieves my problems Do you think the
>> use
>> causes infection? I use it when I have infections because it gives some
>> relief.
>>
>> The idea that it causes infection isn't something I had considered.
>
> Steroids depress the immune response. Of course, not all inhalers
> are steroids.

Yes, but I avoid steroids like the plague and will only take them when I
have no choice.


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Bruce wrote:
>
> Jeßus wrote:
> >I understand completely I still have most of my teeth, but the last
> >few toothaches resulted in all but one being pulled.
>
> Are you saying you now have one tooth? Is it one in the middle?

LOL! I was wondering about that statement too until I figured out
what he was meaning to say. heheh

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I do like mashed potato pancakes. My Scottish grandmother and my mother
> used to make them. I have, on occasion.

How do you make them, Jill? Starting with refrigerated mashed
potatoes, do you add anything like an egg to bind them? Or just form
into patties, flour and fry?

On 10/11/2015 7:03 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> I do get the impression that the implants are the next best thing to
> real. Do you find this to be true? I still have all my teeth (3 are
> crowned though). If I live long enough that will change eventually. I
> suppose people get used to dentures but it's a scary thought to me.
>
> Also with dentures, you would go for years with missing teeth before
> requiring a full denture unless you just get many good ones pulled too
> all at once. Partials sound like a pain to deal with (and scary too).
> The implants sound like a good alternative if you can afford them. At
> least with implants you can get one at a time as a real tooth needs to
> come out.
>
My middle brother unfortunately had really bad teeth, gums and bone
loss. He had dental insurance through work but *never* met his
deductible even though it seemed he was always having something done.
He got tired of it and decided to have ALL of his teeth pulled and
replaced with implants. Obviously not a covered by insurance thing.
This was about 15 years ago.

IIRC he borrowed against his 401K and Dad kicked in some money. He
negotiated a discount with the oral surgeon in exchange for updating her
web site.

He had to have cadaver bones implanted in his jaw to support the
implants because he had significant bone loss in his jaw. The entire
process took about a year (she didn't pull all his teeth at once) and
cost over $30,000. A couple of months after it was all done (lovely
smile!) one of the implants broke and he had to pay to have it replaced.

Implants are probably the next best thing to real teeth but they do
require maintenance and replacement from time to time. Worth it? You
decide.

Jill

On 10/11/2015 8:12 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I do like mashed potato pancakes. My Scottish grandmother and my mother
>> used to make them. I have, on occasion.
>
> How do you make them, Jill? Starting with refrigerated mashed
> potatoes, do you add anything like an egg to bind them? Or just form
> into patties, flour and fry?
>
Start with chilled leftover mashed potatoes. Add an egg. I also add
some minced onion - the dehydrated kind works just fine. Mix it all
together, form into patties and dust lightly with flour. I chill the
patties for a bit again in the fridge, then pan fry in a little neutral
vegetable oil & butter.

Jill

On 10/11/2015 4:43 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
>>>>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> during his occasional forays into society.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out and
>>>>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People
>>>>> sneeze,
>>>>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community, and
>>>> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston and
>>>> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
>>>>
>>> Guess we're just lucky. Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has COPD
>>> for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
>>> might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections which
>>> would require antibiotics.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I do too, and it does.
>
> I use a nebuliser too, and that relieves my problems Do you think the
> use causes infection? I use it when I have infections because it gives
> some relief.
>
> The idea that it causes infection isn't something I had considered.

I wasn't saying the nebulizer causes infections. I meant if you have
COPD and use a nebulizer you might be more prone to upper respiratory
infections, hence the need for antibiotics.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 10/11/2015 8:12 AM, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> I do like mashed potato pancakes. My Scottish grandmother and my mother
> >> used to make them. I have, on occasion.
> >
> > How do you make them, Jill? Starting with refrigerated mashed
> > potatoes, do you add anything like an egg to bind them? Or just form
> > into patties, flour and fry?
> >
> Start with chilled leftover mashed potatoes. Add an egg. I also add
> some minced onion - the dehydrated kind works just fine. Mix it all
> together, form into patties and dust lightly with flour. I chill the
> patties for a bit again in the fridge, then pan fry in a little neutral
> vegetable oil & butter.
>
> Jill

Gee thanks! :-D

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 10/11/2015 4:43 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Cheri" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
> >>>>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
> >>>>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> during his occasional forays into society.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out and
> >>>>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People
> >>>>> sneeze,
> >>>>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community, and
> >>>> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston and
> >>>> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
> >>>>
> >>> Guess we're just lucky. Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has COPD
> >>> for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
> >>> might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections which
> >>> would require antibiotics.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> I do too, and it does.
> >
> > I use a nebuliser too, and that relieves my problems Do you think the
> > use causes infection? I use it when I have infections because it gives
> > some relief.
> >
> > The idea that it causes infection isn't something I had considered.
>
> I wasn't saying the nebulizer causes infections. I meant if you have
> COPD and use a nebulizer you might be more prone to upper respiratory
> infections, hence the need for antibiotics.

Most of the long-term maintenance inhalers come with warnings that you
might be more prone to infections. Overusing antibiotics is
counter-productive though. They are prescribed way too much.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 10/11/2015 4:43 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >>
>> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> >>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
>> >>>>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
>> >>>>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact
>> >>>>>> with
>> >>>>>> during his occasional forays into society.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People
>> >>>>> sneeze,
>> >>>>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to
>> >>>>> them.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community,
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
>> >>>>
>> >>> Guess we're just lucky. Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has
>> >>> COPD
>> >>> for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
>> >>> might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections
>> >>> which
>> >>> would require antibiotics.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jill
>> >>
>> >> I do too, and it does.
>> >
>> > I use a nebuliser too, and that relieves my problems Do you think the
>> > use causes infection? I use it when I have infections because it
>> > gives
>> > some relief.
>> >
>> > The idea that it causes infection isn't something I had considered.
>>
>> I wasn't saying the nebulizer causes infections. I meant if you have
>> COPD and use a nebulizer you might be more prone to upper respiratory
>> infections, hence the need for antibiotics.
>
> Most of the long-term maintenance inhalers come with warnings that you
> might be more prone to infections. Overusing antibiotics is
> counter-productive though. They are prescribed way too much.

My doc trusts me to know when I need them (which is not very often) and I
have a course in the house. The deal is that if I start a course, I see her
the next day. Same thing with steriods.


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On 10/11/2015 6:17 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> He had to have cadaver bones implanted in his jaw to support


Why do you share so much personal family information here?

Are you daft?

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
>>>>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> during his occasional forays into society.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out and
>>>>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People
>>>>> sneeze,
>>>>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community, and
>>>> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston and
>>>> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
>>>>
>>> Guess we're just lucky. Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has COPD
>>> for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
>>> might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections which
>>> would require antibiotics.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I do too, and it does.
>
> I use a nebuliser too, and that relieves my problems Do you think the use
> causes infection? I use it when I have infections because it gives some
> relief.
>
> The idea that it causes infection isn't something I had considered.

I believe Jill was talking about COPD making you more prone to respiratory
infections, that's what I meant.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 10/10/2015 5:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:20 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/10/2015 8:22 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>>>> He lives a pretty much isolated life, so his immune system
>>>>>>> is easy pickins for any stray germ or virus he comes into contact
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> during his occasional forays into society.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out and
>>>>>> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People
>>>>>> sneeze,
>>>>>> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Barbara's hypothesis is nonsense. I live in an isolated community, and
>>>>> yet I rarely ever get colds, flu and gastro. I go into Launceston and
>>>>> people are sneezing and coughing... I never catch a damned thing.
>>>>>
>>>> Guess we're just lucky. Actually, Sheldon has mentioned he has COPD
>>>> for which he uses a nebulizer. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but that
>>>> might make him more prone to bacterial type respiratory infections
>>>> which
>>>> would require antibiotics.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I do too, and it does.
>>
>> I use a nebuliser too, and that relieves my problems Do you think the
>> use causes infection? I use it when I have infections because it gives
>> some relief.
>>
>> The idea that it causes infection isn't something I had considered.
>
> I believe Jill was talking about COPD making you more prone to respiratory
> infections, that's what I meant.

Ok Sorry!


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On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 08:15:32 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 00:43:01 -0400, Cheryl >
>wrote:
>
>>I always add about a teaspoon of baking soda when I make my spaghetti
>>sauce. Does anyone else do that? It cuts a little of the acid.
>
>I haven't tried that myself. I generally find that if cooked slowly
>for a long time any acid dissipates.

That's because the longer tomato sauce cooks the more the sugar in
tomatoes caramelize so it tastes sweeter. I don't care for long
cooked caramelized tomato sauce, doesn't even look right as it begins
to look more brown than red.

On 11/10/2015 11:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/11/2015 7:03 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>> I do get the impression that the implants are the next best thing to
>> real. Do you find this to be true? I still have all my teeth (3 are
>> crowned though). If I live long enough that will change eventually. I
>> suppose people get used to dentures but it's a scary thought to me.
>>
>> Also with dentures, you would go for years with missing teeth before
>> requiring a full denture unless you just get many good ones pulled too
>> all at once. Partials sound like a pain to deal with (and scary too).
>> The implants sound like a good alternative if you can afford them. At
>> least with implants you can get one at a time as a real tooth needs to
>> come out.
>>
> My middle brother unfortunately had really bad teeth, gums and bone
> loss. He had dental insurance through work but *never* met his
> deductible even though it seemed he was always having something done. He
> got tired of it and decided to have ALL of his teeth pulled and replaced
> with implants. Obviously not a covered by insurance thing. This was
> about 15 years ago.
>
> IIRC he borrowed against his 401K and Dad kicked in some money. He
> negotiated a discount with the oral surgeon in exchange for updating her
> web site.
>
> He had to have cadaver bones implanted in his jaw to support the
> implants because he had significant bone loss in his jaw. The entire
> process took about a year (she didn't pull all his teeth at once) and
> cost over $30,000. A couple of months after it was all done (lovely
> smile!) one of the implants broke and he had to pay to have it replaced.
>
> Implants are probably the next best thing to real teeth but they do
> require maintenance and replacement from time to time. Worth it? You
> decide.
>
> Jill

I broke a front tooth when in my mid 20s. It was capped and that lasted
for 25 years but failed when the stump cracked and became infected. I
tried a single tooth denture for a while and, believe me, they don't
work well. Eventually had an implant fitted. Best move I ever made. No
regrets. The surgeon told me it isn't for everyone as bone density and
other factors play a key role in longevity. Preciseness of installation
is also key as an implant fitted at an incorrect angle will have
abnormal side loadings applied and will fail prematurely if not spot on.
According to my surgeon, mt bone density was perfect and no extra bone
needed grafting in.

Cost me about A$4,000 but it was worth every cent.

BTW, they are designed to be easily replaced if broken - as long as the
implant itself is secure in the bone of the jaw.

A friend had his done - full upper set - against the recommendation of
his surgeon and they all failed. His bone structure and density wasn't
adequate and he was told that but he insisted.

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On 11/10/2015 10:03 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> On 10/6/2015 12:43 AM, Je�us wrote:
>>
>>> Sometimes I feel like telling them to be done with it and just rip all
>>> my teeth out and give me dentures
>>
>> With my horrible teeth I felt the same way but I've been replacing them
>> with implants. It's expensive but worth it.
>
> I do get the impression that the implants are the next best thing to
> real. Do you find this to be true? I still have all my teeth (3 are

Yes except you can't 'feel' them, most noticeable when brushing. When
brushing, it feels like I have a gap in my upper set. No nerves in the
implant, see?

> crowned though). If I live long enough that will change eventually. I
> suppose people get used to dentures but it's a scary thought to me.

I never got used to a denture - see my other post on this topic.
>
> Also with dentures, you would go for years with missing teeth before
> requiring a full denture unless you just get many good ones pulled too
> all at once. Partials sound like a pain to deal with (and scary too).
> The implants sound like a good alternative if you can afford them. At
> least with implants you can get one at a time as a real tooth needs to
> come out.
>
It isn't a painful process, that much I can say. I have had only one
upper front done but wouldn't hesitate, if another tooth needed removal,
to get another implant. I have only lost 3 teeth in my life, one when i
was a kid, another was a breakage and the third was a impacted wisdom
tooth that went bad. Still have another impacted wisdom tooth but it's
currently behaving itself.

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On 11/10/2015 10:30 PM, Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Jeßus wrote:
>>> I understand completely I still have most of my teeth, but the last
>>> few toothaches resulted in all but one being pulled.
>>
>> Are you saying you now have one tooth? Is it one in the middle?
>
> LOL! I was wondering about that statement too until I figured out
> what he was meaning to say. heheh
>
Fangs for the memory!

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On 10/11/2015 3:02 PM, Xeno wrote:
> On 11/10/2015 11:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/11/2015 7:03 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> I do get the impression that the implants are the next best thing to
>>> real. Do you find this to be true? I still have all my teeth (3 are
>>> crowned though). If I live long enough that will change eventually. I
>>> suppose people get used to dentures but it's a scary thought to me.
>>>
>>> Also with dentures, you would go for years with missing teeth before
>>> requiring a full denture unless you just get many good ones pulled too
>>> all at once. Partials sound like a pain to deal with (and scary too).
>>> The implants sound like a good alternative if you can afford them. At
>>> least with implants you can get one at a time as a real tooth needs to
>>> come out.
>>>
>> My middle brother unfortunately had really bad teeth, gums and bone
>> loss. He had dental insurance through work but *never* met his
>> deductible even though it seemed he was always having something done. He
>> got tired of it and decided to have ALL of his teeth pulled and replaced
>> with implants. Obviously not a covered by insurance thing. This was
>> about 15 years ago.
>>
>> IIRC he borrowed against his 401K and Dad kicked in some money. He
>> negotiated a discount with the oral surgeon in exchange for updating her
>> web site.
>>
>> He had to have cadaver bones implanted in his jaw to support the
>> implants because he had significant bone loss in his jaw. The entire
>> process took about a year (she didn't pull all his teeth at once) and
>> cost over $30,000. A couple of months after it was all done (lovely
>> smile!) one of the implants broke and he had to pay to have it replaced.
>>
>> Implants are probably the next best thing to real teeth but they do
>> require maintenance and replacement from time to time. Worth it? You
>> decide.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I broke a front tooth when in my mid 20s. It was capped and that lasted
> for 25 years but failed when the stump cracked and became infected. I
> tried a single tooth denture for a while and, believe me, they don't
> work well. Eventually had an implant fitted. Best move I ever made. No
> regrets. The surgeon told me it isn't for everyone as bone density and
> other factors play a key role in longevity. Preciseness of installation
> is also key as an implant fitted at an incorrect angle will have
> abnormal side loadings applied and will fail prematurely if not spot on.
> According to my surgeon, mt bone density was perfect and no extra bone
> needed grafting in.
>
> Cost me about A$4,000 but it was worth every cent.
>
> BTW, they are designed to be easily replaced if broken - as long as the
> implant itself is secure in the bone of the jaw.
>
> A friend had his done - full upper set - against the recommendation of
> his surgeon and they all failed. His bone structure and density wasn't
> adequate and he was told that but he insisted.
>
Lack of bone density was half my brothers problem. That's why the
surgeon implanted bone to hold the implants.

Regular dentures likely would have required the same thing. If you
don't have the base to hold the teeth - be it your natural teeth,
dentures or implants, nothing will work well.

Jill

On 10/10/2015 10:06 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Add a grated carrot at the start... extra diced onion adds sweetness
> too. But I don't mind acerbic pasta sauce, too sweet is like jared.

It doesn't make it sweet by removing some of the acid, but carrots
would. I need to remove some acidity to be able to enjoy it for my
stomach's sake.

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Cheryl

On 10/9/2015 6:35 PM, Je�us wrote:

> I was wishing I had some local aesthetic on hand <G>. I reckon that
> would have been the only thing to properly dull the pain. I got by on
> bourbon, beer, oxycontin and a few other painkillers (yes, I mixed
> alcohol with oxycontin, I'm a naughty boy).

Tooth pain is one of the worst IMO. I take pain killers and drink
alcohol. Everyone tells me to stop doing that but it doubles the pain
relief. One day it might do me in but the doctor is cutting back on what
he gives me and changed it from oxycodone back to hydrocodone (5mg). So
I think I'm safe.

I hope you're feeling better, and I guess you only have a few hours to
have to get through until you can get to the dentist?

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On 10/9/2015 9:14 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> By the time people reach fifty years old they have developed an
> immunity to Amoxicillin, it's one of the most over prescribed
> antibiotics. I've been prescibed tons of Amoxicillin, years ago it
> stopped working for me but no doctor said anything, just kept
> prescibing it. I learned this only recently, about a year ago, from
> a Rheumatologist, for those over 50 undergoing dental procedures
> Clindamysin is indicated.

I always ask for a Z-pack. Best antibiotic for dental work. And for
pain, nothing beats a corticosteroid to reduce inflammation.

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On 10/10/2015 9:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
> I live a pretty isolated life, too, but I do actually venture out and
> about. I don't catch every little bug that comes along. People sneeze,
> people cough. I don't get sick as a result of being exposed to them.
>
> Jill <---knocking wood

Keep knocking wood! LOL For some, especially when older, you are
required to take an antibiotic for some dental work if you have
replacement parts. They are prone to infection and the antibiotics are
precaution and indicated for that.

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Cheryl

On 10/10/2015 7:12 PM, Je�us wrote:

> I'll never forget when I was at college for my I.T courses years ago,
> one time there was a particularly virulent flu going around the area.
> The building was sealed, no natural air. Everyone was sick... I
> resigned myself to becoming sick. Nope... not even then did I catch
> the flu. I*have* caught the flu, but the last time that I can recall
> was well over 30 years ago.

Funny you mention that because the only time I get really bad flu or
cold is when I've taken classes. I figured it was because I was exposed
to people I don't see on a regular basis or something like that.

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On 2015-10-11 3:53 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 10/10/2015 10:06 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Add a grated carrot at the start... extra diced onion adds sweetness
>> too. But I don't mind acerbic pasta sauce, too sweet is like jared.
>
> It doesn't make it sweet by removing some of the acid, but carrots
> would. I need to remove some acidity to be able to enjoy it for my
> stomach's sake.

For a long time I could not eat stuff that was acidic. An Italian type
dish with tomato sauce would leave my guts in distress. Two years ago I
had my gall bladder out and I have an Italian dish every two or three
weeks no and no unpleasant side effects. I can also tolerate some
citrus, but I have to admit that previous reactions make me very wary of
oranges and grapefruit so I only have small amounts. I dared to drink a
glass of orange juice on vacation and did not end up regretting it.

On 2015-10-11 4:14 PM, Cheryl wrote:

> Tooth pain is one of the worst IMO. I take pain killers and drink
> alcohol. Everyone tells me to stop doing that but it doubles the pain
> relief. One day it might do me in but the doctor is cutting back on what
> he gives me and changed it from oxycodone back to hydrocodone (5mg). So
> I think I'm safe.


No, you are not safe. It is a bad combination.
When I broke my shoulder I was taking oxycxontin for two months. They
were really cheap with it. I saved the oxycontin for night time use. I
would take one at bed time so I could sleep on my back. It would let me
sleep for about 4 hours before it wore off and I moved and woke up in
serious pain, took another and slept another four hours. I would have a
Manhattan or two at cocktail time, long enough after the last oxy and
before the bed time dose.

On 2015-10-11 4:28 PM, Cheryl wrote:

> Funny you mention that because the only time I get really bad flu or
> cold is when I've taken classes. I figured it was because I was exposed
> to people I don't see on a regular basis or something like that.

The worst colds and flus I got used to hit me after visiting with my
brother in law, his wife the health food Nazi and their three kids. The
kids never seemed to get sick. I always suspected that it was because
they were so bloody healthy that the germs never penetrated their
defences so they jumped to the next less healthy human that came along.