"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/18/2014 1:44 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> I think "Shedd's Spread" did a lot to keep margarine popular -- it was
>>> easier to spread on toast than a cold stick of butter.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sure, but it was still like plastic. I was raised on butter and stuck
>> with it. Margarine is OK for some cooking though, but not on my bread.
>
> I won't touch margarine. Always butter for me. At least I know what it
> is made of.
>
I would prefer butter for sure but since dairy makes me ill, I have to have
margarine. And there isn't much to choose from. Most of it now contains
dairy. That just makes no sense to me.

> wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:17:14 PM UTC-5, Nellie wrote:
>
> I collect old cookbooks, the ones that came with the product.
>
> It is hysterical, they refer to men in the most demeaning manner, our
> little boys and stuff like that.
>
>
> Nellie
>
>
Referring the wife as "the little woman" is just as demeaning. I've read
publications from the same era advising 'the little woman' to put on a clean
dress before her hard working husband gets home from work. Also, don't
bother him with your daily household problems. After all he is the man of
the house and should be catered to.

---

Yeah. I wouldn't have fared well in those days. I spent all day cleaning
out the garage. I put on a clean nightgown and husband will be getting a
cheeseburger when he comes in.

Nellie wrote:
>
> http://img.timeinc.net/time/pr/magcovers/62314.jpg
>
> This is just the first article I could find, there are many that may be even more conclusive.
>
> It is pretty much established now that there is no correlation.

No, it's not. _Time_ magazine is not
a scientific journal. There are no
clinical studies which overturn the
scientific data that consumption of
saturated fat is a major risk factor
for cardiovascular disease.

One of the leading organizations
supporting research in cardiovascular
disease is the American Heart Association.
When they say it's okay to eat saturated
fats, I'll believe it.

http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Gettin...49_Article.jsp

But of course, that will NEVER happen.
There are few nutritional causes of
disease as well-supported by clinical
studies as the one between saturated fat
and cardiovascular disease.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:36:39 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 6/17/2014 3:29 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> There are old gold mines not all that far from here, the Chinese were
>> here at the peak (of course) and I've come across some old Chinese
>> graves in the bush and also some huts, or what's left of them. Found a
>> few interesting things with my metal detector but still looking for
>> that cache of gold sovereigns buried in the ground...
>>
>
>My Chinese friend was digging holes in the walls and yard of his
>grandma's house looking for loot. Never did find much though. That was a
>hoot.
>
>My wife would find big bucks that her Korean mother would hide around
>the house. She hid money and then insist that my wife go looking for it
>when she couldn't remember where she put it. It was nutty as shit.

LOL <shakes head>

>Asians are the craziest people - especially old Asian women.

Well, perhaps. You ought to try some of the people around here for
crazy though

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:

> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
> over the years.

We don't like to leave the butter out all night.

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:58:22 PM UTC-7, Je�us wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:36:39 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:

> >My Chinese friend was digging holes in the walls and yard of his
> >grandma's house looking for loot. Never did find much though. That was a
> >hoot.
>
> >My wife would find big bucks that her Korean mother would hide around
> >the house. She hid money and then insist that my wife go looking for it
> >when she couldn't remember where she put it. It was nutty as shit.
>
> LOL <shakes head>
>
> >Asians are the craziest people - especially old Asian women.
>
> Well, perhaps. You ought to try some of the people around here for
> crazy though

When my aunt's MIL started freaking out about not being able to find
$20 bills she was sure she had put in her underwear drawer, her kids
knew she could no longer live on her own.

Not Asian, though.

In article >,
Nellie > wrote:

> In the Gold Country here in California, a family recently stumbled across a
> lot of 'loot' I don't remember how much, but it was a lot. No one can figure out where it came from, but believe it was Jesse James's from a stagecoach holdup. Incredibly, there are records of those old heists and the amounts and which had been found and which are still missing. This one was not on any of those lists. a real mystery.

I'm familiar with that case. A couple of nice people found one or more
sacks of old money on their own land, and every tom, "dick" and harry
are searching to see if they have claim to it. Did I hear that Wells
Fargo thought that it was theirs at one point? I expect that California
feels a desperate need to claim it. I'm certain that the Feds feel a
need for more than California or the honest citizens who found it.
Folks, if you find something valuable on your property, search for a
lawyer first and keep your mouth shut, as much as I hate to say that.

leo

On 6/19/2014 12:10 AM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
>> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
>> over the years.
>
> We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
>
Who says you have to leave it out all night?

Jill

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:21:24 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

> Folks, if you find something valuable on your property, search for a
> lawyer first and keep your mouth shut, as much as I hate to say that.

They weren't stupid.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:21:24 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >,
>Nellie > wrote:
>
>> In the Gold Country here in California, a family recently stumbled across a
>> lot of 'loot' I don't remember how much, but it was a lot. No one can figure out where it came from, but believe it was Jesse James's from a stagecoach holdup. Incredibly, there are records of those old heists and the amounts and which had been found and which are still missing. This one was not on any of those lists. a real mystery.
>
>I'm familiar with that case. A couple of nice people found one or more
>sacks of old money on their own land, and every tom, "dick" and harry
>are searching to see if they have claim to it. Did I hear that Wells
>Fargo thought that it was theirs at one point? I expect that California
>feels a desperate need to claim it. I'm certain that the Feds feel a
>need for more than California or the honest citizens who found it.
>Folks, if you find something valuable on your property, search for a
>lawyer first and keep your mouth shut, as much as I hate to say that.

Absolutely. Too late once the cat is out of the bag.

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:10:50 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
>> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
>> over the years.
>
>We don't like to leave the butter out all night.

The butter I'm using stays out of the fridge all of the time, aside
from in extremely hot weather. Been doing that for decades now, never
had a problem.

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:15:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:58:22 PM UTC-7, Je�us wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:36:39 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>
>> >My Chinese friend was digging holes in the walls and yard of his
>> >grandma's house looking for loot. Never did find much though. That was a
>> >hoot.
>>
>> >My wife would find big bucks that her Korean mother would hide around
>> >the house. She hid money and then insist that my wife go looking for it
>> >when she couldn't remember where she put it. It was nutty as shit.
>>
>> LOL <shakes head>
>>
>> >Asians are the craziest people - especially old Asian women.
>>
>> Well, perhaps. You ought to try some of the people around here for
>> crazy though
>
>When my aunt's MIL started freaking out about not being able to find
>$20 bills she was sure she had put in her underwear drawer, her kids
>knew she could no longer live on her own.
>
>Not Asian, though.

I'm already bad with things like my car keys. I have to put them in
the same spot every time, otherwise I'm searching the house and sheds
for them.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/19/2014 12:10 AM, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
>>> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
>>> over the years.
>>
>> We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
>>
> Who says you have to leave it out all night?

My grandma kept hers in the cupboard. On a saucer. It was a lil' yellow
pool in the Kansas heat! Hers was very fresh though. They always had at
least one cow and she churned it as needed.

In article >, sf
> wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:21:24 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> > wrote:
>
> > Folks, if you find something valuable on your property, search for a
> > lawyer first and keep your mouth shut, as much as I hate to say that.
>
> They weren't stupid.

That's good news. They had their ducks in a row before the story went
public. I wasn't aware of that. They are cashing in free and clear
minus tax considerations. Good to know.
Not keeping up with the plethora of assinine laws promogulated daily
doesn't make anybody stupid. You may have accidentally committed a
felony today and not even know it.
Lovin' ya from over the hill,

leo

On 6/17/2014 3:29 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
> I'll bet they did
>
> There are old gold mines not all that far from here, the Chinese were
> here at the peak (of course) and I've come across some old Chinese
> graves in the bush and also some huts, or what's left of them. Found a
> few interesting things with my metal detector but still looking for
> that cache of gold sovereigns buried in the ground...
>
The Chinese found gold in Hawaii too. It was in the form of land and
businesses. The Chinese guy I rent my office from owns most of the land
in this town. I got to hand it to those guys - they were practically
slaves and since they landed here without any females, they mixed with
the only group that would have them - the Hawaiian women. They were the
lowest of the lowest class of Hawaiian society and a little over a
hundred year after that first Chinese wave, they're the most prosperous
group in the state. Americans always like to underestimate the Chinese
by that's something I would never do because I know what they're capable of.

Good luck with your treasure hunt. Those guys with the metal detectors
on TV make it seem oh so easy...

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:42:49 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 6/17/2014 3:29 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>> I'll bet they did
>>
>> There are old gold mines not all that far from here, the Chinese were
>> here at the peak (of course) and I've come across some old Chinese
>> graves in the bush and also some huts, or what's left of them. Found a
>> few interesting things with my metal detector but still looking for
>> that cache of gold sovereigns buried in the ground...
>>
>The Chinese found gold in Hawaii too. It was in the form of land and
>businesses. The Chinese guy I rent my office from owns most of the land
>in this town. I got to hand it to those guys - they were practically
>slaves and since they landed here without any females, they mixed with
>the only group that would have them - the Hawaiian women. They were the
>lowest of the lowest class of Hawaiian society and a little over a
>hundred year after that first Chinese wave, they're the most prosperous
>group in the state. Americans always like to underestimate the Chinese
>by that's something I would never do because I know what they're capable of.

Oh yes, generally speaking they are a lot 'hungrier' than most of us
and will go the extra distance to succeed.

>Good luck with your treasure hunt. Those guys with the metal detectors
>on TV make it seem oh so easy...

Heh, yeah they do. I do have good days occasionally, and it seems you
can do no wrong. I'll be detecting around an old historic school soon,
we did a few repairs to it not long ago for a homeless guy who was
living down the river... it's winter here and he wouldn't have lasted
long living like that, so we set him up in the school. Anyway, looking
around the place, it's obvious that there's lots of stuff in the
ground and further back in the bush. There was a small logging/saw
milling community there back in the 1800's up until the 1950s.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:15:37 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:58:22 PM UTC-7, Je�us wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:36:39 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>> >My Chinese friend was digging holes in the walls and yard of his
>>> >grandma's house looking for loot. Never did find much though. That was
>>> >a
>>> >hoot.
>>>
>>> >My wife would find big bucks that her Korean mother would hide around
>>> >the house. She hid money and then insist that my wife go looking for it
>>> >when she couldn't remember where she put it. It was nutty as shit.
>>>
>>> LOL <shakes head>
>>>
>>> >Asians are the craziest people - especially old Asian women.
>>>
>>> Well, perhaps. You ought to try some of the people around here for
>>> crazy though
>>
>>When my aunt's MIL started freaking out about not being able to find
>>$20 bills she was sure she had put in her underwear drawer, her kids
>>knew she could no longer live on her own.
>>
>>Not Asian, though.
>
> I'm already bad with things like my car keys. I have to put them in
> the same spot every time, otherwise I'm searching the house and sheds
> for them.

My Grandmother used to say that you must have a 'place for everything and
everything in its place' And it is rare that I don't follow that or I
wouldn't be able to find anything either

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 22:31:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 6/19/2014 12:10 AM, wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
>>>> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
>>>> over the years.
>>>
>>> We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
>>>
>> Who says you have to leave it out all night?
>
>My grandma kept hers in the cupboard. On a saucer. It was a lil' yellow
>pool in the Kansas heat! Hers was very fresh though. They always had at
>least one cow and she churned it as needed.

See, now, that was a good response. Just a couple of sentences said
everything to convey a story.
Janet US

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37:14 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:

> On 6/19/2014 12:10 AM, wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
> >> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
> >> over the years.
>
> > We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
>
> Who says you have to leave it out all night?
>

Our other options are
1. Get up earlier, or
2. Eat breakfast later.

Not gunna happen, to quote Dana Carvey as GHW Bush.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 08:38:42 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37:14 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > On 6/19/2014 12:10 AM, wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > >> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
> > >> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
> > >> over the years.
> >
> > > We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
> >
> > Who says you have to leave it out all night?
> >
>
> Our other options are
> 1. Get up earlier, or
> 2. Eat breakfast later.
>
> Not gunna happen, to quote Dana Carvey as GHW Bush.

Same here. That's when spreadable butter comes in handy.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 6/19/2014 11:38 AM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37:14 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 6/19/2014 12:10 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
>>>> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
>>>> over the years.
>>
>>> We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
>>
>> Who says you have to leave it out all night?
>>
>
> Our other options are
> 1. Get up earlier, or
> 2. Eat breakfast later.
>
> Not gunna happen, to quote Dana Carvey as GHW Bush.
>
LOL I don't eat the minute I get up. I sure as heck don't start
cooking the minute I get up. It doesn't take all that long for a stick
of butter to soften enough to spread on hot bread or toast. You could
always buy some of those cute little quarter sticks of butter.

Jill

On 6/19/2014 1:04 AM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:10:50 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
>>> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
>>> over the years.
>>
>> We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
>
> The butter I'm using stays out of the fridge all of the time, aside
> from in extremely hot weather. Been doing that for decades now, never
> had a problem.
>
For a while I used to use a butter bell. It was fine except for having
to change the cold water so often. That got to be a bit of a PITA, but
I still have the butter bell. It's cute.

Of course I have air conditioning so it wouldn't matter if I left the
butter on the counter all the time, so long as it was covered. I guess
I store it on the fridge door out of habit.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

> Of course I have air conditioning so it wouldn't matter if I left the
> butter on the counter all the time, so long as it was covered. I guess I
> store it on the fridge door out of habit.
>
> Jill

I've always left mine on the counter. It's what we did when I was a kid, and
just never changed.

Cheri

On 6/18/2014 11:10 PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
>> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
>> over the years.
>
> We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
>


One stick of butter stays on my counter top, until it is gone, and that
does not take very long. It does take a few days, though.

Becca

On 6/19/2014 5:19 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:15:37 -0700 (PDT),
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:58:22 PM UTC-7, Je�us wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:36:39 -1000, dsi1
>>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> >My Chinese friend was digging holes in the walls and yard of his
>>>> >grandma's house looking for loot. Never did find much though. That was
>>>> >a
>>>> >hoot.
>>>>
>>>> >My wife would find big bucks that her Korean mother would hide around
>>>> >the house. She hid money and then insist that my wife go looking
>>>> for it
>>>> >when she couldn't remember where she put it. It was nutty as shit.
>>>>
>>>> LOL <shakes head>
>>>>
>>>> >Asians are the craziest people - especially old Asian women.
>>>>
>>>> Well, perhaps. You ought to try some of the people around here for
>>>> crazy though
>>>
>>> When my aunt's MIL started freaking out about not being able to find
>>> $20 bills she was sure she had put in her underwear drawer, her kids
>>> knew she could no longer live on her own.
>>>
>>> Not Asian, though.
>>
>> I'm already bad with things like my car keys. I have to put them in
>> the same spot every time, otherwise I'm searching the house and sheds
>> for them.
>
> My Grandmother used to say that you must have a 'place for everything and
> everything in its place' And it is rare that I don't follow that or I
> wouldn't be able to find anything either

Agrees with your grandmother, I like everything being in its place. I
am not a neat freak, life is just easier when there is order. You could
look at one shelf in my MIL's kitchen cupboard and find band-aids, a can
of coffee, batteries, light bulbs. I have no idea how she was able to
cook like this. If I need red wine vinegar or soy sauce, I do not want
to dig through spark plugs or whatever, to reach that. BTW, my MIL had a
housekeeper 5 days a week. Hard to believe, right? We bought her house,
and every now and then when I look at these cupboards, I will think
about that.

Becca

On 6/19/2014 2:23 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 6/18/2014 11:10 PM, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
>>> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
>>> over the years.
>>
>> We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
>>
>
>
> One stick of butter stays on my counter top, until it is gone, and that
> does not take very long. It does take a few days, though.
>
> Becca

I used to leave the butter out all the time on the counter, with no
cover. One day the wife (now ex) came in, livid. She claimed that my cat
had been "licking the butter". She and the cat, whom I had had long
before we got married, did not have a good relationship. The ex showed
me striations on the surface of the butter and claimed that they came
from the spines on the cat's tongue. Of course, I told her she was being
ridiculous, and that the grooves were from the serrations on the knife
edge, which did not go over well.

This went on every few days for a week or two, and things got pretty
tense. Then, one day I happened out into the kitchen very early in the
morning. The dear little kitty was on the counter, with his face in the
butter dish. Ooops... I paid quite a price for that little incident.

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/19/2014 5:19 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:15:37 -0700 (PDT),
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:58:22 PM UTC-7, Je�us wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:36:39 -1000, dsi1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> >My Chinese friend was digging holes in the walls and yard of his
>>>>> >grandma's house looking for loot. Never did find much though. That
>>>>> >was
>>>>> >a
>>>>> >hoot.
>>>>>
>>>>> >My wife would find big bucks that her Korean mother would hide around
>>>>> >the house. She hid money and then insist that my wife go looking
>>>>> for it
>>>>> >when she couldn't remember where she put it. It was nutty as shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL <shakes head>
>>>>>
>>>>> >Asians are the craziest people - especially old Asian women.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, perhaps. You ought to try some of the people around here for
>>>>> crazy though
>>>>
>>>> When my aunt's MIL started freaking out about not being able to find
>>>> $20 bills she was sure she had put in her underwear drawer, her kids
>>>> knew she could no longer live on her own.
>>>>
>>>> Not Asian, though.
>>>
>>> I'm already bad with things like my car keys. I have to put them in
>>> the same spot every time, otherwise I'm searching the house and sheds
>>> for them.
>>
>> My Grandmother used to say that you must have a 'place for everything and
>> everything in its place' And it is rare that I don't follow that or I
>> wouldn't be able to find anything either
>
> Agrees with your grandmother, I like everything being in its place. I am
> not a neat freak, life is just easier when there is order. You could look
> at one shelf in my MIL's kitchen cupboard and find band-aids, a can of
> coffee, batteries, light bulbs. I have no idea how she was able to cook
> like this. If I need red wine vinegar or soy sauce, I do not want to dig
> through spark plugs or whatever, to reach that. BTW, my MIL had a
> housekeeper 5 days a week. Hard to believe, right? We bought her house,
> and every now and then when I look at these cupboards, I will think about
> that.

Memories eh? I couldn't live like that. I would drive myself crazy
having to search for stuff.


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/19/2014 5:19 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:15:37 -0700 (PDT),
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:58:22 PM UTC-7, Je�us wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:36:39 -1000, dsi1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> >My Chinese friend was digging holes in the walls and yard of his
>>>>> >grandma's house looking for loot. Never did find much though. That
>>>>> >was
>>>>> >a
>>>>> >hoot.
>>>>>
>>>>> >My wife would find big bucks that her Korean mother would hide around
>>>>> >the house. She hid money and then insist that my wife go looking
>>>>> for it
>>>>> >when she couldn't remember where she put it. It was nutty as shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL <shakes head>
>>>>>
>>>>> >Asians are the craziest people - especially old Asian women.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, perhaps. You ought to try some of the people around here for
>>>>> crazy though
>>>>
>>>> When my aunt's MIL started freaking out about not being able to find
>>>> $20 bills she was sure she had put in her underwear drawer, her kids
>>>> knew she could no longer live on her own.
>>>>
>>>> Not Asian, though.
>>>
>>> I'm already bad with things like my car keys. I have to put them in
>>> the same spot every time, otherwise I'm searching the house and sheds
>>> for them.
>>
>> My Grandmother used to say that you must have a 'place for everything and
>> everything in its place' And it is rare that I don't follow that or I
>> wouldn't be able to find anything either
>
> Agrees with your grandmother, I like everything being in its place. I am
> not a neat freak, life is just easier when there is order. You could look
> at one shelf in my MIL's kitchen cupboard and find band-aids, a can of
> coffee, batteries, light bulbs. I have no idea how she was able to cook
> like this. If I need red wine vinegar or soy sauce, I do not want to dig
> through spark plugs or whatever, to reach that. BTW, my MIL had a
> housekeeper 5 days a week. Hard to believe, right? We bought her house,
> and every now and then when I look at these cupboards, I will think about
> that.

Memories! I couldn't live like that. I would be spending all my time
searching for stuff

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 6/19/2014 1:31 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>


> My grandma kept hers in the cupboard. On a saucer. It was a lil'
> yellow pool in the Kansas heat! Hers was very fresh though. They
> always had at least one cow and she churned it as needed.

My grandmother made the cow run around the field a couple of times and
the butter came out churned.

On 6/19/2014 2:23 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:

>
> One stick of butter stays on my counter top, until it is gone, and that
> does not take very long. It does take a few days, though.
>
> Becca

Too soft for me. I cut off thin slices and put it on the warm toast.
Spread a little if possible. I'd rather have a series of lumps than too
soft and spread. I guess it is the mouth feel thing.

Ema Nymton wrote:
>
>One stick of butter stays on my counter top, until it is gone, and that
>does not take very long. It does take a few days, though.

I keep a stick of butter in a glass butter dish in my fridge... extras
in the freezer. It's rare I use butter for spreading, mostly I use it
for cooking so I don't need to keep it spreadable. A stick of butter
can easily last me a month. If I know I'll be spreading butter I take
the butter dish from the fridge maybe a half hour prior, by then it's
spreadable. I also occasionally drizzle melted butter on my air
popped popcorn, melts quickly in the microwave. And I don't need
spreadable butter for baked potatoes or nuked veggies.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 14:48:58 -0400, Travis McGee >
wrote:

>On 6/19/2014 2:23 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
>> On 6/18/2014 11:10 PM, wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread... take
>>>> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad naseum*
>>>> over the years.
>>>
>>> We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
>>>
>>
>>
>> One stick of butter stays on my counter top, until it is gone, and that
>> does not take very long. It does take a few days, though.
>>
>> Becca
>
>I used to leave the butter out all the time on the counter, with no
>cover. One day the wife (now ex) came in, livid. She claimed that my cat
>had been "licking the butter". She and the cat, whom I had had long
>before we got married, did not have a good relationship. The ex showed
>me striations on the surface of the butter and claimed that they came
>from the spines on the cat's tongue. Of course, I told her she was being
>ridiculous, and that the grooves were from the serrations on the knife
>edge, which did not go over well.
>
>This went on every few days for a week or two, and things got pretty
>tense. Then, one day I happened out into the kitchen very early in the
>morning. The dear little kitty was on the counter, with his face in the
>butter dish. Ooops... I paid quite a price for that little incident.

Yeah... for years now feline pussy is all you've had.

On 2014-06-19 3:51 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Too soft for me. I cut off thin slices and put it on the warm toast.
> Spread a little if possible. I'd rather have a series of lumps than too
> soft and spread. I guess it is the mouth feel thing.


I think butter tastes better if it is still firm. I agree with you
about the chunks. I like toast the English way, cold and dry, and firm
enough to scrape with firm butter.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 14:48:58 -0400, Travis McGee >
wrote:

>I used to leave the butter out all the time on the counter, with no
>cover. One day the wife (now ex) came in, livid. She claimed that my cat
>had been "licking the butter". She and the cat, whom I had had long
>before we got married, did not have a good relationship. The ex showed
>me striations on the surface of the butter and claimed that they came
>from the spines on the cat's tongue. Of course, I told her she was being
>ridiculous, and that the grooves were from the serrations on the knife
>edge, which did not go over well.
>
>This went on every few days for a week or two, and things got pretty
>tense. Then, one day I happened out into the kitchen very early in the
>morning. The dear little kitty was on the counter, with his face in the
>butter dish. Ooops... I paid quite a price for that little incident.

Heh... you can't leave open butter around a pussy cat
Caught my tabby doing exactly that once, when I was called away from
the kitchen. I always keep the lid on, but it stays on the table.

On 6/19/2014 1:48 PM, Travis McGee wrote:
> On 6/19/2014 2:23 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:

>> One stick of butter stays on my counter top, until it is gone, and that
>> does not take very long. It does take a few days, though.
>>
>> Becca
>
> I used to leave the butter out all the time on the counter, with no
> cover. One day the wife (now ex) came in, livid. She claimed that my cat
> had been "licking the butter". She and the cat, whom I had had long
> before we got married, did not have a good relationship. The ex showed
> me striations on the surface of the butter and claimed that they came
> from the spines on the cat's tongue. Of course, I told her she was being
> ridiculous, and that the grooves were from the serrations on the knife
> edge, which did not go over well.
>
> This went on every few days for a week or two, and things got pretty
> tense. Then, one day I happened out into the kitchen very early in the
> morning. The dear little kitty was on the counter, with his face in the
> butter dish. Ooops... I paid quite a price for that little incident.

Louie Anderson has a routine about a cat licking the butter, it is
pretty funny.

Our kitties are not allowed on the kitchen counter tops or the kitchen
table, but they never attempt to jump up there, for whatever reason. The
cats stay outside all day; we can see them and they will run up to you,
when you walk outside, but they do not like to come indoors, except to
eat, unless it is raining, then they will come in. Kika sleeps in the
bed with us, and comes into the house around 8:00 every night while we
are watching TV. I get up in the morning to take a shower and she stays
in the bathroom with me. When I walk in the kitchen to get coffee, she
eats then she leaves out the cat door. This is the same routine every day.

BTW, when winter arrives, all 3 cats sleep in the house at night, they
do not like cold weather.

Becca

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:15:37 -0700 (PDT),
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:58:22 PM UTC-7, Je�us wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:36:39 -1000, dsi1
>>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> >My Chinese friend was digging holes in the walls and yard of his
>>>> >grandma's house looking for loot. Never did find much though. That was
>>>> >a
>>>> >hoot.
>>>>
>>>> >My wife would find big bucks that her Korean mother would hide around
>>>> >the house. She hid money and then insist that my wife go looking for
>>>> >it
>>>> >when she couldn't remember where she put it. It was nutty as shit.
>>>>
>>>> LOL <shakes head>
>>>>
>>>> >Asians are the craziest people - especially old Asian women.
>>>>
>>>> Well, perhaps. You ought to try some of the people around here for
>>>> crazy though
>>>
>>>When my aunt's MIL started freaking out about not being able to find
>>>$20 bills she was sure she had put in her underwear drawer, her kids
>>>knew she could no longer live on her own.
>>>
>>>Not Asian, though.
>>
>> I'm already bad with things like my car keys. I have to put them in
>> the same spot every time, otherwise I'm searching the house and sheds
>> for them.
>
> My Grandmother used to say that you must have a 'place for everything and
> everything in its place' And it is rare that I don't follow that or I
> wouldn't be able to find anything either

I agree with that too but sometimes things happen. I have been known to
need the bathroom immediately after coming in the door and I might leave my
keys in there.

Or I have to get dinner started right away so I remove my glasses or set my
keys down in the kitchen. At least I know if they are missing, they are in
one of those two spots.

About a week ago, I had to go out to the car for some reason that escapes me
now. Then something happened when I came in. That escapes me as well. I
set the keys on the little fridge, intending to get them later. But then I
got busy.

I remembered the keys but when I went back, they were not there! The only
other place that I put them (this is where I normally put them) is on my
computer desk. But they were not there either.

Turns out, someone had knocked them onto the dining room floor. I must have
walked right over them at least 5 times in looking for them!

But my mom? Drives me nuts! Can't tell you how many times she has lost her
purse, keys and glasses. When I was a kid, she always put her purse in the
closet and the keys in the purse. She was blind as a bat so never took her
glasses off until she went to bed. Although once for some strange reason,
she put them in the butter door. She had been clearing the table and
couldn't find them. But the margarine was still on the table. So I said
innocently, "Why don't you look in the butter door?" And there they were.
She accused me of having done it. She was particularly spaced out that day
to begin with.

But now? OMG! She came into my house when I got out of the hospital and
managed to lose her purse in here THREE times in a half an hour's time. It
is particularly bad when she is in someone else's house because there is no
telling where she might put it. But at her own place? She is now living in
a 600 sq. ft. room and she still manages to lose it.

Her entry door is right in the little kitchenette. If it were me, I would
probably just put a basket or something like that right inside the door and
in it would go those things that I was perpetually losing. But no. I won't
even suggest that. It would just make her angry.

So not only does she lose these things, but she will leave the room and then
realize that she doesn't have whatever it is! Oh, she loses her cell phone
too. So much so that I won't even try to call it any more. And now she
wears several different pairs of glasses for different reasons. That only
complicates things. If she does remember the glasses, they will be the
wrong ones.

It is to the point now that we have to watch her like a hawk whenever she
enters a building or even if she gets up out of her seat. For some strange
reason, she will get up and put her purse or whatever, somewhere else. And
when we are leaving, we have to do the checklist at the door. "Do you have
your _____?"

"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/19/2014 2:23 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
>> On 6/18/2014 11:10 PM, wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47:55 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those who have a problem with spreading cold butter on bread...
>>>> take
>>>> it out of the fridge ahead of time. This has been discussed *ad
>>>> naseum*
>>>> over the years.
>>>
>>> We don't like to leave the butter out all night.
>>>
>>
>>
>> One stick of butter stays on my counter top, until it is gone, and that
>> does not take very long. It does take a few days, though.
>>
>> Becca
>
> I used to leave the butter out all the time on the counter, with no cover.
> One day the wife (now ex) came in, livid. She claimed that my cat had been
> "licking the butter". She and the cat, whom I had had long before we got
> married, did not have a good relationship. The ex showed me striations on
> the surface of the butter and claimed that they came from the spines on
> the cat's tongue. Of course, I told her she was being ridiculous, and that
> the grooves were from the serrations on the knife edge, which did not go
> over well.
>
> This went on every few days for a week or two, and things got pretty
> tense. Then, one day I happened out into the kitchen very early in the
> morning. The dear little kitty was on the counter, with his face in the
> butter dish. Ooops... I paid quite a price for that little incident.

My one cat will eat anything that is left unattended.

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/19/2014 1:48 PM, Travis McGee wrote:
>> On 6/19/2014 2:23 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
>
>>> One stick of butter stays on my counter top, until it is gone, and that
>>> does not take very long. It does take a few days, though.
>>>
>>> Becca
>>
>> I used to leave the butter out all the time on the counter, with no
>> cover. One day the wife (now ex) came in, livid. She claimed that my cat
>> had been "licking the butter". She and the cat, whom I had had long
>> before we got married, did not have a good relationship. The ex showed
>> me striations on the surface of the butter and claimed that they came
>> from the spines on the cat's tongue. Of course, I told her she was being
>> ridiculous, and that the grooves were from the serrations on the knife
>> edge, which did not go over well.
>>
>> This went on every few days for a week or two, and things got pretty
>> tense. Then, one day I happened out into the kitchen very early in the
>> morning. The dear little kitty was on the counter, with his face in the
>> butter dish. Ooops... I paid quite a price for that little incident.
>
> Louie Anderson has a routine about a cat licking the butter, it is pretty
> funny.
>
> Our kitties are not allowed on the kitchen counter tops or the kitchen
> table, but they never attempt to jump up there, for whatever reason. The
> cats stay outside all day; we can see them and they will run up to you,
> when you walk outside, but they do not like to come indoors, except to
> eat, unless it is raining, then they will come in. Kika sleeps in the bed
> with us, and comes into the house around 8:00 every night while we are
> watching TV. I get up in the morning to take a shower and she stays in the
> bathroom with me. When I walk in the kitchen to get coffee, she eats then
> she leaves out the cat door. This is the same routine every day.
>
> BTW, when winter arrives, all 3 cats sleep in the house at night, they do
> not like cold weather.
>
Our cats are not allowed there either. I bought them barstools so they can
sit up high and watch me. I do have a garden window in the kitchen. One
cat goes in there occasionally and the other at least daily. Getting there
does involve stepping over the sink. I am not thrilled with that but at
least they aren't walking in the food prep area.

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/19/2014 5:19 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:15:37 -0700 (PDT),
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:58:22 PM UTC-7, Je�us wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:36:39 -1000, dsi1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> >My Chinese friend was digging holes in the walls and yard of his
>>>>> >grandma's house looking for loot. Never did find much though. That
>>>>> >was
>>>>> >a
>>>>> >hoot.
>>>>>
>>>>> >My wife would find big bucks that her Korean mother would hide around
>>>>> >the house. She hid money and then insist that my wife go looking
>>>>> for it
>>>>> >when she couldn't remember where she put it. It was nutty as shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL <shakes head>
>>>>>
>>>>> >Asians are the craziest people - especially old Asian women.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, perhaps. You ought to try some of the people around here for
>>>>> crazy though
>>>>
>>>> When my aunt's MIL started freaking out about not being able to find
>>>> $20 bills she was sure she had put in her underwear drawer, her kids
>>>> knew she could no longer live on her own.
>>>>
>>>> Not Asian, though.
>>>
>>> I'm already bad with things like my car keys. I have to put them in
>>> the same spot every time, otherwise I'm searching the house and sheds
>>> for them.
>>
>> My Grandmother used to say that you must have a 'place for everything and
>> everything in its place' And it is rare that I don't follow that or I
>> wouldn't be able to find anything either
>
> Agrees with your grandmother, I like everything being in its place. I am
> not a neat freak, life is just easier when there is order. You could look
> at one shelf in my MIL's kitchen cupboard and find band-aids, a can of
> coffee, batteries, light bulbs. I have no idea how she was able to cook
> like this. If I need red wine vinegar or soy sauce, I do not want to dig
> through spark plugs or whatever, to reach that. BTW, my MIL had a
> housekeeper 5 days a week. Hard to believe, right? We bought her house,
> and every now and then when I look at these cupboards, I will think about
> that.
>
I probably keep what would seem odd things in various places to some other
people. But if I am in the kitchen cooking and break a nail, I don't want
to have to go into the other room for a file. So I keep a file in my pencil
holder. I also keep some nail polish remover by the sink. And a bottle of
shampoo. If I am cooking something that doesn't require my constant
attention, I can remove my polish while I am in there. And once in a while
I will opt not to take a shower but still need to wash my hair so I will use
the sink for that.

My parents kept their Q Tips in the kitchen. I thought that was odd.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/19/2014 1:31 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>
>> My grandma kept hers in the cupboard. On a saucer. It was a lil'
>> yellow pool in the Kansas heat! Hers was very fresh though. They
>> always had at least one cow and she churned it as needed.
>
> My grandmother made the cow run around the field a couple of times and the
> butter came out churned.

Heh. I will never forget the day that the bull got loose. Almost caused as
much excitement as when the mouse ran under the card table as they were
playing Rook. The men all jumped into action and the women shrieked and
went into hiding. Or in the case of the mouse, just stood up on something
high. Until one of the men reminded them that mice can climb.