"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/13/2018 11:48 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 11:07:03 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>> On 5/13/2018 9:07 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm not talking about not knowing it before new taxes are added, I'm
>>>> talking about if the sales tax is 8.5% add it to the price. If it's
>>>> going up have the discussion, etc., but if it happens then add it to
>>>> the
>>>> price in the store.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This isn't the same thing but it bugs me when stores require a "loyalty
>>> card" to get lower prices. Shelf price says $5 but with a card it's $4.
>>>
>>> They could sell it to everyone for the lesser price but choose not to.
>>> Sorry, I'll shop where there isn't a blatant attempt to jack up the
>>> prices unless I have a "card".
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Kroger is like that, and I hate it. My regular store has lower prices,
>> and the loyalty card gets me coupons that further reduce the price.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> As an adult I lived my life in the Memphis, TN area. Kroger required a
> card. It wasn't convenient to me, I didn't shop there. I did stop in
> there once to buy a seafood platter to take to a party at my brother's
> house. I didn't have a Kroger card, so the checker asked the guy in line
> with me if she could scan his card so I'd get a discount. Nice guy, he
> said no problem.
>
> (From what I understand, there are also cards the checkers can use to
> scan. So what's the point?)
>
> This young man at Kroger was buying a card and a single rose to give to
> his girlfriend. With the swipe of a card it looks like he also bought her
> a couple of party platters of cold shrimp and crab claws. LOL
>
> Jill


That happened once at a store where I was shopping, a lady was trying to buy
potatoes at a cheap price but didn't have the card, I said she could use
mine, the clerk refused to do it (can you imagine that) so I said...give me
the damned potatoes and I'll buy them using my card which I did. I asked the
clerk if he thought he was the food police or something before I left him
standing there. The potatoes were a freaking dollar with the card!!!

Cheri

On Sun, 13 May 2018 04:52:28 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 1:19:31 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 22:10:23 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
>> .. .

>> >> Yes, thanks, excise tax is what I meant. I could imagine charging that
>> >> on clearly unhealthy food items. Why only on cigarettes?
>> >
>> >Who gets to decide what are clearly unhealthy food items? No thanks.
>>
>> But why tax cigarettes but not fast food, coca cola and high risk
>> sports like skiing and mountain climbing?
>
>The state has no interest in preserving the health of its citizens,
>because people are expected to pay for their own health care.
>The federal government, in fact, would be better off if people died
>before they drew a lot of Social Security.

Yes, economically speaking, people should die when they stop working.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/12/2018 9:14 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > >
> >>>>On Fri, 11 May 2018 10:40:24 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > At my local Food Lion (not a national chain) this morning, I
> > > > > > bought a package of 18 x-large eggs for $1.45 plus tax.
> > > > >
> >
> > His were an 18 pack at 1.45 (plus tax). He missed that Harris
> > Teeters was 1.29 for same size.
> >
> Maybe Gary just didn't want to drive to Harris Teeters.
>
> I, for one, am not inclined to drive to different supermarkets just
> to save a few cents on a carton of eggs. Doesn't save much in the
> long run.
>
> Jill

Nor will I, but the question was cheapest eggs. The non-sale price for
18 eggs at HT is 1.39

On 2018-05-13 7:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-05-13 8:57 AM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 May 2018 05:39:50 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>
>> Better to see it, then politicians know raising it brings bad results
>> for them!Â* We used to have a hidden tax and people just thought the
>> shops, or manufacturer were increasing the price but now they have to
>> debate it and no government really wants to be seen raising it.Â* Fine
>> by me.
>
>
> I forget which PM was very clear about not including sales tax in the
> price of products. He was adamant that the tax had to be added so that
> people knew how much tax they were paying because it is important to
> know that how much we are paying for government programs.Â* If you want
> more, you are going to have to pay more.
>
> I appreciate that concept. OTOH, it is kinda nice to see a price and
> know that is what you are going to pay. When travelling in various
> restaurants it was always a nice surprise to order you items and when
> the bill came it was the sum of the prices of those items. There was no
> sales tax added to the total and no tip expected.
>
When they brought in the VAT sales tax in the UK, it was supposed to be
shown on the receipt. They found that so many stores were including it
in the price that they changed the legislation.

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 2:25:47 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 5/13/2018 12:27 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On 5/13/2018 9:07 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not talking about not knowing it before new taxes are added, I'm
> >>>> talking about if the sales tax is 8.5% add it to the price. If it's
> >>>> going up have the discussion, etc., but if it happens then add it to
> >>>> the price in the store.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheri
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> This isn't the same thing but it bugs me when stores require a "loyalty
> >>> card" to get lower prices. Shelf price says $5 but with a card it's $4.
> >>>
> >>> They could sell it to everyone for the lesser price but choose not to.
> >>> Sorry, I'll shop where there isn't a blatant attempt to jack up the
> >>> prices unless I have a "card".
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >>
> >> You got that right, it's annoying as Hell. My opinion is...just put the
> >> damned item on sale and none of this must have card, must buy 4 to get
> >> the price, must pay with cash, and so on.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > I don't know who in the marketing department thought this was a great
> > idea. It's ridiculous. I don't shop in stores that require a loyalty
> > card to get the lower price.
> >
> > In my area, Food Lion and Piggly Wiggly have cards. I don't shop there.
> >
> > Jill
>
>
> I stopped shopping much at Safeway because of it. I find this interesting,
> especially the part about placing products in proximity.
>
> http://guruprasad.net/posts/the-real...loyalty-cards/

Happily, I think like a robot. So the loyalty card provides real utility
for me.

Cindy Hamilton

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 13 May 2018 04:52:28 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 1:19:31 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 22:10:23 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>
>>> >> Yes, thanks, excise tax is what I meant. I could imagine charging
>>> >> that
>>> >> on clearly unhealthy food items. Why only on cigarettes?
>>> >
>>> >Who gets to decide what are clearly unhealthy food items? No thanks.
>>>
>>> But why tax cigarettes but not fast food, coca cola and high risk
>>> sports like skiing and mountain climbing?
>>
>>The state has no interest in preserving the health of its citizens,
>>because people are expected to pay for their own health care.
>>The federal government, in fact, would be better off if people died
>>before they drew a lot of Social Security.
>
> Yes, economically speaking, people should die when they stop working.


And economically speaking, some people should die that never start working.

Cheri

On 5/13/2018 11:06 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>>
> This isn't the same thing but it bugs me when stores require a "loyalty
> card" to get lower prices.* Shelf price says $5 but with a card it's $4.
>
> They could sell it to everyone for the lesser price but choose not to.
> Sorry, I'll shop where there isn't a blatant attempt to jack up the
> prices unless I have a "card".
>
> Jill

The store I prefer to shop does not have loyalty cars, but it is 20
miles from me so I use the store that is only 2 miles away. By default,
it gets most of my business so I make the best of using the card.

Every week I get an email that links me to upcoming sales and freebies.
I can load them to my card and don't have to clip coupons, the deduct at
the checkout. I also have on gas, an average of 20 cents a fill up.
I'd stil rather have everyday low prices though.

On 2018-05-13 2:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/13/2018 11:06 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>
>> This isn't the same thing but it bugs me when stores require a
>> "loyalty card" to get lower prices.* Shelf price says $5 but with a
>> card it's $4.
>>
>> They could sell it to everyone for the lesser price but choose not to.
>> Sorry, I'll shop where there isn't a blatant attempt to jack up the
>> prices unless I have a "card".
>>
>> Jill
>
> The store I prefer to shop does not have loyalty cars, but it is 20
> miles from me so I use the store that is only 2 miles away.* By default,
> it gets most of my business so I make the best of using the card.
>
> Every week I get an email that links me to upcoming sales and freebies.
> I can load them to my card and don't have to clip coupons, the deduct at
> the checkout.* I also have on gas, an average of 20 cents a fill up. I'd
> stil rather have everyday low prices though.

So many bloody pieces of plastic to engorge ones wallet. I too would
rather see lower prices.

On Sun, 13 May 2018 13:39:40 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 13 May 2018 04:52:28 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 1:19:31 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 22:10:23 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> .. .
>>
>>>> >> Yes, thanks, excise tax is what I meant. I could imagine charging
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> on clearly unhealthy food items. Why only on cigarettes?
>>>> >
>>>> >Who gets to decide what are clearly unhealthy food items? No thanks.
>>>>
>>>> But why tax cigarettes but not fast food, coca cola and high risk
>>>> sports like skiing and mountain climbing?
>>>
>>>The state has no interest in preserving the health of its citizens,
>>>because people are expected to pay for their own health care.
>>>The federal government, in fact, would be better off if people died
>>>before they drew a lot of Social Security.
>>
>> Yes, economically speaking, people should die when they stop working.
>
>
>And economically speaking, some people should die that never start working.

Yes.

On Sun, 13 May 2018 14:47:21 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-05-13 2:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 5/13/2018 11:06 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> This isn't the same thing but it bugs me when stores require a
>>> "loyalty card" to get lower prices.* Shelf price says $5 but with a
>>> card it's $4.
>>>
>>> They could sell it to everyone for the lesser price but choose not to.
>>> Sorry, I'll shop where there isn't a blatant attempt to jack up the
>>> prices unless I have a "card".
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> The store I prefer to shop does not have loyalty cars, but it is 20
>> miles from me so I use the store that is only 2 miles away.* By default,
>> it gets most of my business so I make the best of using the card.
>>
>> Every week I get an email that links me to upcoming sales and freebies.
>> I can load them to my card and don't have to clip coupons, the deduct at
>> the checkout.* I also have on gas, an average of 20 cents a fill up. I'd
>> stil rather have everyday low prices though.
>
>So many bloody pieces of plastic to engorge ones wallet. I too would
>rather see lower prices.

No card, a tiny tag on my key chain. I've no idea why people are
averse to saving money. Stores use those cards to help with inventory
control, no sweat off my balls, I'd rather save money. And the
emailed circulars include many click-on coupons that aren't available
otherwise... most I don't use but many are good for big savings on
products I do use; this week Coke products B2G3, red spuds and sweet
onions half price, etc.
I really don't care if the store in town knows my name and
mailing address... been shopping there for 16 years, no biggie, I know
all the female employees bra sizes.

graham wrote:

> On 2018-05-13 7:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2018-05-13 8:57 AM, wrote:
> >> On Sun, 13 May 2018 05:39:50 -0700, "Cheri" >
> >>
> >> Better to see it, then politicians know raising it brings bad results
> >> for them!Â* We used to have a hidden tax and people just thought the
> >> shops, or manufacturer were increasing the price but now they have to
> >> debate it and no government really wants to be seen raising it.Â* Fine
> >> by me.
> >
> >
> > I forget which PM was very clear about not including sales tax in the
> > price of products. He was adamant that the tax had to be added so that
> > people knew how much tax they were paying because it is important to
> > know that how much we are paying for government programs.Â* If you want
> > more, you are going to have to pay more.
> >
> > I appreciate that concept. OTOH, it is kinda nice to see a price and
> > know that is what you are going to pay. When travelling in various
> > restaurants it was always a nice surprise to order you items and when
> > the bill came it was the sum of the prices of those items. There was no
> > sales tax added to the total and no tip expected.
> >
> When they brought in the VAT sales tax in the UK, it was supposed to be
> shown on the receipt. They found that so many stores were including it
> in the price that they changed the legislation.


Thank god they never adopted the Euro...!!!

--
Best
Greg

On Sun, 13 May 2018 14:23:07 -0700 (PDT), "Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz"
> wrote:

>graham wrote:
>
>> On 2018-05-13 7:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > On 2018-05-13 8:57 AM, wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 13 May 2018 05:39:50 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> >>
>> >> Better to see it, then politicians know raising it brings bad results
>> >> for them!* We used to have a hidden tax and people just thought the
>> >> shops, or manufacturer were increasing the price but now they have to
>> >> debate it and no government really wants to be seen raising it.* Fine
>> >> by me.
>> >
>> >
>> > I forget which PM was very clear about not including sales tax in the
>> > price of products. He was adamant that the tax had to be added so that
>> > people knew how much tax they were paying because it is important to
>> > know that how much we are paying for government programs.* If you want
>> > more, you are going to have to pay more.
>> >
>> > I appreciate that concept. OTOH, it is kinda nice to see a price and
>> > know that is what you are going to pay. When travelling in various
>> > restaurants it was always a nice surprise to order you items and when
>> > the bill came it was the sum of the prices of those items. There was no
>> > sales tax added to the total and no tip expected.
>> >
>> When they brought in the VAT sales tax in the UK, it was supposed to be
>> shown on the receipt. They found that so many stores were including it
>> in the price that they changed the legislation.
>
>
>Thank god they never adopted the Euro...!!!

Yes, the Brexit would have been even messier.

On Sun, 13 May 2018 17:13:57 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 13 May 2018 14:47:21 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 2018-05-13 2:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/13/2018 11:06 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> This isn't the same thing but it bugs me when stores require a
>>>> "loyalty card" to get lower prices.* Shelf price says $5 but with a
>>>> card it's $4.
>>>>
>>>> They could sell it to everyone for the lesser price but choose not to.
>>>> Sorry, I'll shop where there isn't a blatant attempt to jack up the
>>>> prices unless I have a "card".
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> The store I prefer to shop does not have loyalty cars, but it is 20
>>> miles from me so I use the store that is only 2 miles away.* By default,
>>> it gets most of my business so I make the best of using the card.
>>>
>>> Every week I get an email that links me to upcoming sales and freebies.
>>> I can load them to my card and don't have to clip coupons, the deduct at
>>> the checkout.* I also have on gas, an average of 20 cents a fill up. I'd
>>> stil rather have everyday low prices though.
>>
>>So many bloody pieces of plastic to engorge ones wallet. I too would
>>rather see lower prices.
>
>No card, a tiny tag on my key chain. I've no idea why people are
>averse to saving money. Stores use those cards to help with inventory
>control, no sweat off my balls, I'd rather save money. And the
>emailed circulars include many click-on coupons that aren't available
>otherwise... most I don't use but many are good for big savings on
>products I do use; this week Coke products B2G3, red spuds and sweet
>onions half price, etc.
>I really don't care if the store in town knows my name and
>mailing address... been shopping there for 16 years, no biggie, I know
>all the female employees bra sizes.

and every time you use one of those coupons related to your little key
chain tag, someone is keeping track of you, what you buy, where you
live. )

On 5/13/2018 5:34 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> and every time you use one of those coupons related to your little key
> chain tag, someone is keeping track of you, what you buy, where you
> live. )
>

Maybe I'll invite them to my next birthday party. Oh, they already know
when it will be. They also know I like Skippy peanut butter too.

Not too worried unless they lurk around the house and peep in the windows.

On Sun, 13 May 2018 15:34:26 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 May 2018 17:13:57 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 13 May 2018 14:47:21 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2018-05-13 2:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 5/13/2018 11:06 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't the same thing but it bugs me when stores require a
>>>>> "loyalty card" to get lower prices.* Shelf price says $5 but with a
>>>>> card it's $4.
>>>>>
>>>>> They could sell it to everyone for the lesser price but choose not to.
>>>>> Sorry, I'll shop where there isn't a blatant attempt to jack up the
>>>>> prices unless I have a "card".
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> The store I prefer to shop does not have loyalty cars, but it is 20
>>>> miles from me so I use the store that is only 2 miles away.* By default,
>>>> it gets most of my business so I make the best of using the card.
>>>>
>>>> Every week I get an email that links me to upcoming sales and freebies.
>>>> I can load them to my card and don't have to clip coupons, the deduct at
>>>> the checkout.* I also have on gas, an average of 20 cents a fill up. I'd
>>>> stil rather have everyday low prices though.
>>>
>>>So many bloody pieces of plastic to engorge ones wallet. I too would
>>>rather see lower prices.
>>
>>No card, a tiny tag on my key chain. I've no idea why people are
>>averse to saving money. Stores use those cards to help with inventory
>>control, no sweat off my balls, I'd rather save money. And the
>>emailed circulars include many click-on coupons that aren't available
>>otherwise... most I don't use but many are good for big savings on
>>products I do use; this week Coke products B2G3, red spuds and sweet
>>onions half price, etc.
>>I really don't care if the store in town knows my name and
>>mailing address... been shopping there for 16 years, no biggie, I know
>>all the female employees bra sizes.
>
>and every time you use one of those coupons related to your little key
>chain tag, someone is keeping track of you, what you buy, where you
>live. )

Who the **** cares you paranoid ****. The IRS knows where you live
and everything about you.

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 11:34:30 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> and every time you use one of those coupons related to your little key
> chain tag, someone is keeping track of you, what you buy, where you
> live. )

Google has kept track of my locations on this rock for the last several years. I can find out where I was a year ago at this time. It's kind of amazing. My guess is that the data will still be around a hundred years from now. I find it strange that somebody would want to do this.

The kids don't mind being tracked on the web and in their locations in time and space. The old folks seem to be afraid of it. It is interesting how the generations have such a different point of view. In such a world, doing illegal deeds or illicit acts will be easily suppressed. Is that good or bad?

On 5/13/2018 5:42 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/13/2018 5:34 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> and every time you use one of those coupons related to your little key
>> chain tag, someone is keeping track of you, what you buy, where you
>> live.Â* )
>>
>
> Maybe I'll invite them to my next birthday party.Â* Oh, they already know
> when it will be.Â* They also know I like Skippy peanut butter too.
>
> Not too worried unless they lurk around the house and peep in the windows.

I'm not worried about it. You shouldn't have to have a card (or a
keychain tag) to get the lower price. That price should be available to
everyone without waving a magic card at checkout.

Stores already know what you buy, even if you don't shop there regularly.

Jill

On 2018-05-13 10:42 AM, wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2018 09:09:09 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>

>> I appreciate that concept. OTOH, it is kinda nice to see a price and
>> know that is what you are going to pay. When travelling in various
>> restaurants it was always a nice surprise to order you items and when
>> the bill came it was the sum of the prices of those items. There was no
>> sales tax added to the total and no tip expected.
>
> Before the ST there was the Federal Sales Tax that was never shown, I
> knew it altered on the frequent side when working for a photographer
> who always made a point of showing on his bill the portion that he
> would not receive
>
> I find I am used to it, but it still hurts when you buy something like
> a car to see such large amounts

There had been a 13% manufacturers sales tax that was slapped on at the
wholesale level. As trade barriers dropped and more and more stuff was
going to be imported and exported. That tax made it difficult to compete
in the foreign markets. It was replaced with the goods and services
tax, which was much lower, but applied at the retail level so all the
other costs were added in there like shipping, warehousing, markup,
transportation, commissions etch. It was also levied on things that had
not been previously taxed, like services.

The Liberals made a big deal of their opposition to the GST and promised
to get rid of it. They won the election and formed the government, but
then quickly lost interest in honouring that promise.

We (Iowa) have no tax on groceries or prescriptions (OTC items are taxed), but do have a
state income tax. Tax on Social Security income is being phased out, will be zero I think
next year. State sales tax is 6%.

A pre-school-year-starting weekend is tax-free on clothing items, no matter what size, I
think...it wasn't in place when I was raising my boys. And I think school supplies are tax-
free that weekend, too.

N.

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 6:06:30 PM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> A pre-school-year-starting weekend is tax-free on clothing items, no matter what size, I
> think...it wasn't in place when I was raising my boys. And I think school supplies are tax-
> free that weekend, too.
>
> N.
>
>
Every August the state has a 'tax-free' shopping week-end. Clothes,
shoes, school supplies, and computers as long as they are bought with
a printer/scanner. Not sure why that is a stipulation but things like
sewing machines are not part of the tax-free shopping.

The only problem with this program was it was being held the week-end
before school started. Many parents complained it was just too much
of a rush with all they had to do to get their children ready for the
coming school year. Not sure which dummy thought the week-end before
school started was such a great idea but they did move the tax-free
week-end back to about 2 weeks before school starts.

On Sun, 13 May 2018 17:42:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 5/13/2018 5:34 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> and every time you use one of those coupons related to your little key
>> chain tag, someone is keeping track of you, what you buy, where you
>> live. )
>>
>
>Maybe I'll invite them to my next birthday party. Oh, they already know
>when it will be. They also know I like Skippy peanut butter too.
>
>Not too worried unless they lurk around the house and peep in the windows.

I was thinking specifically of Sheldon.

On Sun, 13 May 2018 17:44:38 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 May 2018 17:42:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 5/13/2018 5:34 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>>> and every time you use one of those coupons related to your little key
>>> chain tag, someone is keeping track of you, what you buy, where you
>>> live. )
>>>
>>
>>Maybe I'll invite them to my next birthday party. Oh, they already know
>>when it will be. They also know I like Skippy peanut butter too.
>>
>>Not too worried unless they lurk around the house and peep in the windows.
>
>I was thinking specifically of Sheldon.

Obviously thinking of me gets you very horny.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 2:25:47 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On 5/13/2018 12:27 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >>> On 5/13/2018 9:07 AM, Cheri wrote:
> > > > > >
> > >>>> I'm not talking about not knowing it before new taxes are
> > added, I'm >>>> talking about if the sales tax is 8.5% add it to
> > the price. If it's >>>> going up have the discussion, etc., but if
> > it happens then add it to >>>> the price in the store.
> > > > > >
> > >>>> Cheri
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >>> This isn't the same thing but it bugs me when stores require a
> > "loyalty >>> card" to get lower prices. Shelf price says $5 but
> > with a card it's $4.
> > > > >
> > >>> They could sell it to everyone for the lesser price but choose
> > not to. >>> Sorry, I'll shop where there isn't a blatant attempt
> > to jack up the >>> prices unless I have a "card".
> > > > >
> > >>> Jill
> > > >
> > > >
> > >> You got that right, it's annoying as Hell. My opinion is...just
> > put the >> damned item on sale and none of this must have card,
> > must buy 4 to get >> the price, must pay with cash, and so on.
> > > >
> > >> Cheri
> > >
> > > I don't know who in the marketing department thought this was a
> > > great idea. It's ridiculous. I don't shop in stores that
> > > require a loyalty card to get the lower price.
> > >
> > > In my area, Food Lion and Piggly Wiggly have cards. I don't shop
> > > there.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> >
> > I stopped shopping much at Safeway because of it. I find this
> > interesting, especially the part about placing products in
> > proximity.
> >
> >
http://guruprasad.net/posts/the-real...loyalty-cards/
>
> Happily, I think like a robot. So the loyalty card provides real
> utility for me.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Yup. Just have to note the ads and the rotation. I walked out with
$220 of food today (30% off and a true 30% off, not after markup
prices). It's 6 weeks of the basics mostly that we will eat. It
includes excess of some items due to sales that will off set bills
later in the year when those items are not on sale.

On 5/13/2018 7:28 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 6:06:30 PM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> A pre-school-year-starting weekend is tax-free on clothing items, no matter what size, I
>> think...it wasn't in place when I was raising my boys. And I think school supplies are tax-
>> free that weekend, too.
>>
>> N.
>>
>>
> Every August the state has a 'tax-free' shopping week-end. Clothes,
> shoes, school supplies, and computers as long as they are bought with
> a printer/scanner.

They have a tax-free shopping weekend here in SC too. No such
restrictions about having to buy a printer/scanner in order to get a
computer.

> Not sure why that is a stipulation but things like
> sewing machines are not part of the tax-free shopping.
>
Because it's intended for kids going off to school, not someone who is
likely to take up sewing. You can still buy supplies for sewing, just
not the actual machine.

> The only problem with this program was it was being held the week-end
> before school started. Many parents complained it was just too much
> of a rush with all they had to do to get their children ready for the
> coming school year. Not sure which dummy thought the week-end before
> school started was such a great idea but they did move the tax-free
> week-end back to about 2 weeks before school starts.
>
It takes place in August here. How much time in advance do you need? I
bought a lamp for my desk tax free. Bought some sheets for the bed.
I'm not a student, don't have kids. I still need those things. It's
nice to have a sales tax free weekend.

Jill

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:36:43 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> On 5/13/2018 7:28 PM, wrote:
>
> > Not sure which dummy thought the week-end before
> > school started was such a great idea but they did move the tax-free
> > week-end back to about 2 weeks before school starts.
> >
> It takes place in August here. How much time in advance do you need? I
> bought a lamp for my desk tax free. Bought some sheets for the bed.
> I'm not a student, don't have kids. I still need those things. It's
> nice to have a sales tax free weekend.
>
> Jill
>
>
I can see if you've got 2 or 3 kids heading back to school and the
week-end before you're out trying to buy clothes and school supplies.
Get home and make sure each one has what they're supposed to have
plus their clothes. If I were a parent I'd want more than 48 hours
before they're heading back to school and not rushing around buying
this and that and making sure you didn't forget anything.

On 2018-05-13 4:45 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-05-13 10:42 AM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 May 2018 09:09:09 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>
>>> I appreciate that concept. OTOH, it is kinda nice to see a price and
>>> know that is what you are going to pay. When travelling in various
>>> restaurants it was always a nice surprise to order you items and when
>>> the bill came it was the sum of the prices of those items. There was no
>>> sales tax added to the total and no tip expected.
>>
>> Before the ST there was the Federal Sales Tax that was never shown, I
>> knew it altered on the frequent side when working for a photographer
>> who always made a point of showing on his bill the portion that he
>> would not receive
>>
>> I find I am used to it, but it still hurts when you buy something like
>> a car to see such large amounts
>
> There had been a 13% manufacturersÂ* sales tax that was slapped on at the
> wholesale level. As trade barriers dropped and more and more stuff was
> going to be imported and exported. That tax made it difficult to compete
> in the foreign markets. It was replacedÂ* with the goods and services
> tax, which was much lower, but applied at the retail level so all the
> other costs were added in there like shipping, warehousing, markup,
> transportation, commissionsÂ* etch. It was also levied on things that had
> not been previously taxed, like services.
>
> The Liberals made a big deal of their opposition to the GST and promised
> to get rid of it.Â* They won the election and formed the government, but
> then quickly lost interest in honouring that promise.
>
>
But the Conservatives under Harper reduced it to 5% and went on a
spending spree lifting the debt by ~250 billion.

jmcquown wrote:
> In my area, Food Lion and Piggly Wiggly have cards. I don't shop there.

Now that my regular store is closed, I'm using Food Lion. It does
have much better prices. I do have a card that gives good
savings. You should consider it if saving money is an issue to
you. If that's not an issue, you should make it an issue. It's a
quick form to fill out and get a card.

The card is not that invasive...really. If you are worried about
privacy and other people knowing what you buy, you should only
shop with cash. Using a debit or credit card still makes a record
of all you buy.

Food Lion does sell tin foil too.

On 5/14/2018 10:04 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> In my area, Food Lion and Piggly Wiggly have cards. I don't shop there.
>
> Now that my regular store is closed, I'm using Food Lion. It does
> have much better prices. I do have a card that gives good
> savings. You should consider it if saving money is an issue to
> you. If that's not an issue, you should make it an issue. It's a
> quick form to fill out and get a card.
>
> The card is not that invasive...really. If you are worried about
> privacy and other people knowing what you buy, you should only
> shop with cash. Using a debit or credit card still makes a record
> of all you buy.
>
> Food Lion does sell tin foil too.
>
For me it's not about privacy. It just bugs me that I need a "card" to
get the lower or sale price. I actually have a Food Lion card (excuse
me, it's a keychain tag!).

https://s7.postimg.cc/bhj8nk7zf/MVP.jpg

The problem I have with Food Lion is mainly the location. You'd have to
be familiar with this area and know the traffic patterns on Lady's
Island to understand. There isn't a stop light. Traffic backs up at
the next intersection and it's damn near impossible to get across the
street to head home. The ice cream could melt in the time it takes to
get across Hwy 21 to head back home.

Jill

On 5/14/2018 12:20 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 14-May-2018, wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/2018 10:04 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> In my area, Food Lion and Piggly Wiggly have cards. I don't shop
>>>> there.
>>>
>>> Now that my regular store is closed, I'm using Food Lion. It does
>>> have much better prices. I do have a card that gives good
>>> savings. You should consider it if saving money is an issue to
>>> you. If that's not an issue, you should make it an issue. It's a
>>> quick form to fill out and get a card.
>>>
>>> The card is not that invasive...really. If you are worried about
>>> privacy and other people knowing what you buy, you should only
>>> shop with cash. Using a debit or credit card still makes a record
>>> of all you buy.
>>>
>>> Food Lion does sell tin foil too.
>>>
>> For me it's not about privacy. It just bugs me that I need a "card" to
>> get the lower or sale price.

> Amen to that. I have too many cards to carry around already; Drivers
> license, library cards, Medicare and supplement, prescription, dental, VA,
> ad nauseum. My wallet already is bulging at capacity to hold all the card I
> have to have; I sure don't want to carry around a few more to get a measly
> discount.
>
Sorry, it's not the amount of cards I have in my wallet. It's merely
the idea of having to have a card or a tag to get a lower price. I only
have my drivers license and two cards in my wallet. That's it. I'm not
laden down with a bunch of plastic.

Jill

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 11:34:30 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> and every time you use one of those coupons related to your little key
> chain tag, someone is keeping track of you, what you buy, where you
> live. )

Google has kept track of my locations on this rock for the last several
years. I can find out where I was a year ago at this time. It's kind of
amazing. My guess is that the data will still be around a hundred years from
now. I find it strange that somebody would want to do this.

The kids don't mind being tracked on the web and in their locations in time
and space. The old folks seem to be afraid of it. It is interesting how the
generations have such a different point of view. In such a world, doing
illegal deeds or illicit acts will be easily suppressed. Is that good or
bad?

==

I am not afraid of it, but I resent it a little.

On 2018-05-12, jmcquown > wrote:

> On 5/12/2018 3:25 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

>> What sucks is that it's not true.
>>
>> http://www.tax-rates.org/colorado/sales-tax

> Guess nb hasn't kept up to date with it.

Basically, squirtz didn't read the entire page. If he presses some
links on that page, turns out there are a buncha exceptions to that
2.9% STATE sales tax law and what and/or what is NOT exempt. One link
sez the sales tax can be over 11% in some districts/counties.
Another sez CO has as many as "560 special sales tax districts".

BTW, I've got most of the receipts. I'm now looking at one that shows
I bought 6 food items (including 1 doz eggs) and the total amount for
the perchases (all food; no sodas/candy/meds) was taxed.

Turns out my fave store is NOT adding totals correctly (no surprise).
I guess I'll hafta start taking my calculator shopping, with me.

nb

200 million eggs recalled here of the brand that I buy but the ones I have are ok, salmonella.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/14/2018 10:04 AM, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > > In my area, Food Lion and Piggly Wiggly have cards. I don't shop
> > > there.
> >
> > Now that my regular store is closed, I'm using Food Lion. It does
> > have much better prices. I do have a card that gives good
> > savings. You should consider it if saving money is an issue to
> > you. If that's not an issue, you should make it an issue. It's a
> > quick form to fill out and get a card.
> >
> > The card is not that invasive...really. If you are worried about
> > privacy and other people knowing what you buy, you should only
> > shop with cash. Using a debit or credit card still makes a record
> > of all you buy.
> >
> > Food Lion does sell tin foil too.
> >
> For me it's not about privacy. It just bugs me that I need a "card"
> to get the lower or sale price. I actually have a Food Lion card
> (excuse me, it's a keychain tag!).
>
> https://s7.postimg.cc/bhj8nk7zf/MVP.jpg
>
> The problem I have with Food Lion is mainly the location. You'd have
> to be familiar with this area and know the traffic patterns on Lady's
> Island to understand. There isn't a stop light. Traffic backs up at
> the next intersection and it's damn near impossible to get across the
> street to head home. The ice cream could melt in the time it takes
> to get across Hwy 21 to head back home.
>
> Jill

Thats my problem with the nearest Kroger. It's literally across the
street from my regular store but it's hard to get to and back out from
where I am.

On Mon, 14 May 2018 19:29:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/2018 10:04 AM, Gary wrote:
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> > > In my area, Food Lion and Piggly Wiggly have cards. I don't shop
>> > > there.
>> >
>> > Now that my regular store is closed, I'm using Food Lion. It does
>> > have much better prices. I do have a card that gives good
>> > savings. You should consider it if saving money is an issue to
>> > you. If that's not an issue, you should make it an issue. It's a
>> > quick form to fill out and get a card.
>> >
>> > The card is not that invasive...really. If you are worried about
>> > privacy and other people knowing what you buy, you should only
>> > shop with cash. Using a debit or credit card still makes a record
>> > of all you buy.
>> >
>> > Food Lion does sell tin foil too.
>> >
>> For me it's not about privacy. It just bugs me that I need a "card"
>> to get the lower or sale price. I actually have a Food Lion card
>> (excuse me, it's a keychain tag!).
>>
>> https://s7.postimg.cc/bhj8nk7zf/MVP.jpg
>>
>> The problem I have with Food Lion is mainly the location. You'd have
>> to be familiar with this area and know the traffic patterns on Lady's
>> Island to understand. There isn't a stop light. Traffic backs up at
>> the next intersection and it's damn near impossible to get across the
>> street to head home. The ice cream could melt in the time it takes
>> to get across Hwy 21 to head back home.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Thats my problem with the nearest Kroger. It's literally across the
>street from my regular store but it's hard to get to and back out from
>where I am.

Then you shouldn't have a drivers licence, you're a menace on the
road.

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 8:28:07 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 May 2018 19:29:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >Thats my problem with the nearest Kroger. It's literally across the
> >street from my regular store but it's hard to get to and back out from
> >where I am.
>
> Then you shouldn't have a drivers licence, you're a menace on the
> road.
>
>
Oh shut up. You have no idea what kind of driver she is or even what
the traffic pattern she has to cope with when grocery shopping.

On Mon, 14 May 2018 18:47:06 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 8:28:07 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 19:29:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> >Thats my problem with the nearest Kroger. It's literally across the
>> >street from my regular store but it's hard to get to and back out from
>> >where I am.
>>
>> Then you shouldn't have a drivers licence, you're a menace on the
>> road.
>>
>>
>Oh shut up. You have no idea what kind of driver she is or even what
>the traffic pattern she has to cope with when grocery shopping.

You've just proven that she shouldn't have a drivers licence.
Please let me know when Joanne is driving so I can stay home.

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 8:56:44 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 May 2018 18:47:06 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 8:28:07 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 14 May 2018 19:29:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Thats my problem with the nearest Kroger. It's literally across the
> >> >street from my regular store but it's hard to get to and back out from
> >> >where I am.
> >>
> >> Then you shouldn't have a drivers licence, you're a menace on the
> >> road.
> >>
> >>
> >Oh shut up. You have no idea what kind of driver she is or even what
> >the traffic pattern she has to cope with when grocery shopping.
>
> You've just proven that she shouldn't have a drivers licence.
> Please let me know when Joanne is driving so I can stay home.
>
>
Just go ahead and lock your doors and pull down the shades, I'm on the
road all the time. You might want to hide under your bed, too; run to
your safe place.

On 5/14/2018 8:29 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>>
>> The problem I have with Food Lion is mainly the location. You'd have
>> to be familiar with this area and know the traffic patterns on Lady's
>> Island to understand. There isn't a stop light. Traffic backs up at
>> the next intersection and it's damn near impossible to get across the
>> street to head home. The ice cream could melt in the time it takes
>> to get across Hwy 21 to head back home.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Thats my problem with the nearest Kroger. It's literally across the
> street from my regular store but it's hard to get to and back out from
> where I am.
>
Yep. Publix is sort of catty-corner across the street but it's easy to
get in and out of. Food Lion is too much of hassle. I only go there if
they have a *really* good deal on something I want or need.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/14/2018 8:29 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The problem I have with Food Lion is mainly the location. You'd
> > > have to be familiar with this area and know the traffic patterns
> > > on Lady's Island to understand. There isn't a stop light.
> > > Traffic backs up at the next intersection and it's damn near
> > > impossible to get across the street to head home. The ice cream
> > > could melt in the time it takes to get across Hwy 21 to head back
> > > home.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Thats my problem with the nearest Kroger. It's literally across the
> > street from my regular store but it's hard to get to and back out
> > from where I am.
> >
> Yep. Publix is sort of catty-corner across the street but it's easy
> to get in and out of. Food Lion is too much of hassle. I only go
> there if they have a really good deal on something I want or need.
>
> Jill

Same here on stores. They have a solid border along the other side
where the Kroger is. You have to go about 1/4 mile up and make a
U-turn to get there, then on the way home, you have to take a longer
route back.

Doable if there is a really good sale, but not normal for a quick trip.
I am sure others shop there because the side of the street matches them
better.

wrote:

> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 8:28:07 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 14 May 2018 19:29:47 -0500, "cshenk" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thats my problem with the nearest Kroger. It's literally across
> > > the street from my regular store but it's hard to get to and back
> > > out from where I am.
> >
> > Then you shouldn't have a drivers licence, you're a menace on the
> > road.
> >
> >
> Oh shut up. You have no idea what kind of driver she is or even what
> the traffic pattern she has to cope with when grocery shopping.

Don't worry about Sheldon. He lives in his own little world.