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I've read that making pizza from scratch is pretty easy.
Anybody have an easy recipe to share? |
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suds wrote on Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:54:07 -0500:
> I've read that making pizza from scratch is pretty easy. > Anybody have an easy recipe to share? If you buy the pizza crust, the mozzarella and the sauce it's quite easy to make an acceptable lunch with vegetables and meats of your choice. Sure, it's not as good as the real thing but it's not bad when you are hungry and in a hurry. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:54:07 -0500, suds macheath
> wrote: >I've read that making pizza from scratch is pretty easy. >Anybody have an easy recipe to share? Find a standard white bread recipe like the one on your package of yeast. Substitute olive oil for the butter and water for the milk. Follow the directions. It only needs to rise once and you're good to go. -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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suds macheath wrote:
> I've read that making pizza from scratch is pretty easy. > Anybody have an easy recipe to share? I just posted about this last week in a different thread. (not surprised that you didn't see it though) I'm using bread flour from a 25 pound bag, and it's pretty compacted. (I should weight it next time to see how much "2 cups" really is.) You might need to use a little more flour, but the dough is very soft and just barely manageable, and it's supposed to be like that. Dust the surface with a little more flour to keep it from sticking to your hands. If you try to make a dough this wet using all purpose flour, you'll have a big sticky mess: I make the crust by putting 2 cups of bread flour, 1 cup of water, 1 tsp salt, 2 Tbsp oil, and 1/2 tsp active dried yeast in a Tupperware bowl, stir it up, and let it sit for an hour. Then I cover it and put in the refrigerator and use it to make a pizza 2 or 3 days later. It's not so much waiting a few days to make the pizza, it's having the dough mixed up in advance and ready. The slow fermentation in the fridge adds to the flavor, and it also develops the gluten without kneading. For sauce, I take a (14 oz) can of stewed tomatoes and cook them down to a paste over high heat, adding some garlic and oregano. Usually just top with cheese, although I have been known to fry some bulk turkey sausage with a little fennel seed and cayenne added, and sprinkle that on top before adding the cheese. I'm still working on my technique; trying to develop a "master recipe" before working on variations. Good luck :-) Best regards, Bob |
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suds macheath > wrote:
> I've read that making pizza from scratch is pretty easy. You need to find better books. -sw |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:54:07 -0500, suds macheath
> wrote: >I've read that making pizza from scratch is pretty easy. >Anybody have an easy recipe to share? Anything you need to know is he http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/ Lou |
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Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >, > zxcvbob > wrote: > > >> For sauce, I take a (14 oz) can of stewed tomatoes and cook them down to >> a paste over high heat, adding some garlic and oregano. > > Do you buy low salt tomatoes? I find that when I cook down canned > tomato products, they get inedibly salty. > I like salty. Are stewed tomatoes available in low salt? I may try it. Bob |
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zxcvbob wrote:
> Dan Abel wrote: >> In article >, >> zxcvbob > wrote: >> >> >>> For sauce, I take a (14 oz) can of stewed tomatoes and cook them down >>> to a paste over high heat, adding some garlic and oregano. >> >> Do you buy low salt tomatoes? I find that when I cook down canned >> tomato products, they get inedibly salty. >> > > > I like salty. Are stewed tomatoes available in low salt? I may try it. Yes, they are. We use them all the time. |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:35:37 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
>In article >, > zxcvbob > wrote: > > >> For sauce, I take a (14 oz) can of stewed tomatoes and cook them down to >> a paste over high heat, adding some garlic and oregano. > >Do you buy low salt tomatoes? I find that when I cook down canned >tomato products, they get inedibly salty. Can I call you a salt wuss and get away with it? Why don't you open a can of tomato paste and use that? -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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>, Dan Abel > wrote: > In article >, > zxcvbob > wrote: > > > > For sauce, I take a (14 oz) can of stewed tomatoes and cook them down to > > a paste over high heat, adding some garlic and oregano. > > Do you buy low salt tomatoes? I find that when I cook down canned > tomato products, they get inedibly salty. I ONLY buy "no salt added" tomato products. They are close to the same price, so why not? -- Peace! Om I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama |
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sf > wrote: > On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:35:37 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote: > > >In article >, > > zxcvbob > wrote: > > > > > >> For sauce, I take a (14 oz) can of stewed tomatoes and cook them down to > >> a paste over high heat, adding some garlic and oregano. > > > >Do you buy low salt tomatoes? I find that when I cook down canned > >tomato products, they get inedibly salty. > > Can I call you a salt wuss and get away with it? Why don't you open a > can of tomato paste and use that? I can get a "no salt added" tomato paste too. :-) IMHO the flavor is superior. -- Peace! Om I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:35:37 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
>Do you buy low salt tomatoes? We have a low salt tomato bed and the regular Morton salt tomato bed. You pick!! |
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Omelet > wrote: > In article >, > sf > wrote: > > > On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:35:37 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote: > > > > >In article >, > > > zxcvbob > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> For sauce, I take a (14 oz) can of stewed tomatoes and cook them down to > > >> a paste over high heat, adding some garlic and oregano. > > > > > >Do you buy low salt tomatoes? I find that when I cook down canned > > >tomato products, they get inedibly salty. > > > > Can I call you a salt wuss and get away with it? Most people with certain medical risk factors are advised to reduce their sodium consumption. That's what I've done, and now full salt doesn't taste good to me anymore. Actually, I don't buy stewed tomatoes very much because I don't like that much sugar in my tomatoes, either. > > Why don't you open a > > can of tomato paste and use that? That's generally what I do. We buy the little cans at Costco (6oz). You just have to buy a box. Rather than thickening canned tomatoes or tomato sauce by cooking it down, I add a can of paste. > I can get a "no salt added" tomato paste too. :-) IMHO the flavor is > superior. I've never met a can of tomato paste with added salt. Perhaps there are regional differences? I've also found that canned crushed tomatoes don't have added salt. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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Dan Abel > wrote:
>I've never met a can of tomato paste with added salt. Perhaps >there are regional differences? I think it is always unsalted. Steve |
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(Steve Pope) wrote: > Dan Abel > wrote: > > >I've never met a can of tomato paste with added salt. Perhaps > >there are regional differences? > > I think it is always unsalted. After looking at ingredient labels for most other foods, I found it refreshing to look at the ingredient list for tomato paste this morning. There was only one word! -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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>, Dan Abel > wrote: > > I can get a "no salt added" tomato paste too. :-) IMHO the flavor is > > superior. > > I've never met a can of tomato paste with added salt. Perhaps there are > regional differences? I've also found that canned crushed tomatoes > don't have added salt. Please watch your attribution snipping. I'm a low salt advocate. And yes, locally here, there are cans labeled "no salt added" for tomato paste. I see I'm going to have to take the digicam to the grocery store. There is a drastic difference in sodium content. -- Peace! Om I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama |
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In article >,
Omelet > wrote: > In article > >, > Dan Abel > wrote: > > > > I can get a "no salt added" tomato paste too. :-) IMHO the flavor is > > > superior. > > > > I've never met a can of tomato paste with added salt. Perhaps there are > > regional differences? I've also found that canned crushed tomatoes > > don't have added salt. > > Please watch your attribution snipping. I'm a low salt advocate. I just checked. You were attributed correctly in my post. The above, however, is not correct. > And yes, locally here, there are cans labeled "no salt added" for tomato > paste. I see I'm going to have to take the digicam to the grocery store. > > There is a drastic difference in sodium content. I'd be interested in reading what you find. However, note that they aren't lying if they say, "no salt added", if nobody else adds salt either. It's still true, and I think it's handy for people to know. I worked with a woman who told me that she always bought pure vegetable oil that was marked, "contains no cholesterol". She was not happy when I explained to her that *no* pure vegetable oil contains cholesterol! -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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Omelet wrote:
> In article > >, > Dan Abel > wrote: > > > > I can get a "no salt added" tomato paste too. :-) IMHO the flavor > > > is superior. > > > > I've never met a can of tomato paste with added salt. Perhaps > > there are regional differences? I've also found that canned > > crushed tomatoes don't have added salt. > > Please watch your attribution snipping. I'm a low salt advocate. > > And yes, locally here, there are cans labeled "no salt added" for > tomato paste. I see I'm going to have to take the digicam to the > grocery store. > > There is a drastic difference in sodium content. I pulled a can of Contadina tomato paste from the pantry. Ingredients: tomatoes. The canned diced tomatoes do have added salt. Brian -- Day 26 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project |
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On Feb 28, 6:42*pm, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:54:07 -0500, suds macheath > > > wrote: > >I've read that making pizza from scratch is pretty easy. > >Anybody have an easy recipe to share? > > Anything you need to know is he > > http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/ > > Lou A Pizza stone would be a must. |
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Default User wrote:
> Omelet wrote: > >> In article >> >, >> Dan Abel > wrote: >> >>>> I can get a "no salt added" tomato paste too. :-) IMHO the flavor >>>> is superior. >>> I've never met a can of tomato paste with added salt. Perhaps >>> there are regional differences? I've also found that canned >>> crushed tomatoes don't have added salt. >> Please watch your attribution snipping. I'm a low salt advocate. >> >> And yes, locally here, there are cans labeled "no salt added" for >> tomato paste. I see I'm going to have to take the digicam to the >> grocery store. >> >> There is a drastic difference in sodium content. > > I pulled a can of Contadina tomato paste from the pantry. Ingredients: > tomatoes. > > The canned diced tomatoes do have added salt. > > Contadina also has a paste with salt, sugar, minced onion, garlic, and spices in it. The "Italian Style" paste. It's really more of a spaghetti sauce concentrate than a tomato paste (not that there's anything wrong with that) I keep a can or two in the pantry for when I'm feeling lazy. It's better than a lot of the jarred sauces. Bob |
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>, Dan Abel > wrote: > > And yes, locally here, there are cans labeled "no salt added" for tomato > > paste. I see I'm going to have to take the digicam to the grocery store. > > > > There is a drastic difference in sodium content. > > I'd be interested in reading what you find. I'll take macros of the labels and post them. :-) > > However, note that they aren't lying if they say, "no salt added", if > nobody else adds salt either. It's still true, and I think it's handy > for people to know. I'm an avid label reader. There really is a drastic difference in sodium content. I only purchase "No Salt Added" veggies if they are available in what I want. The ones available locally are tomatoes, tomato sauces, tomato paste, peas, corn, green beans (both cut and french style), and spinach. I wish they had them in mushrooms, so I just buy fresh in the amounts I intend to use since they don't keep long. I can also get low sodium tuna, but the price is assinine. > > I worked with a woman who told me that she always bought pure vegetable > oil that was marked, "contains no cholesterol". She was not happy when > I explained to her that *no* pure vegetable oil contains cholesterol! > > -- > Dan Abel <lol> Even _I_ am not THAT naive. Gotta love marketing tho'. -- Peace! Om I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama |
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"Default User" > wrote: > Omelet wrote: > > > In article > > >, > > Dan Abel > wrote: > > > > > > I can get a "no salt added" tomato paste too. :-) IMHO the flavor > > > > is superior. > > > > > > I've never met a can of tomato paste with added salt. Perhaps > > > there are regional differences? I've also found that canned > > > crushed tomatoes don't have added salt. > > > > Please watch your attribution snipping. I'm a low salt advocate. > > > > And yes, locally here, there are cans labeled "no salt added" for > > tomato paste. I see I'm going to have to take the digicam to the > > grocery store. > > > > There is a drastic difference in sodium content. > > I pulled a can of Contadina tomato paste from the pantry. Ingredients: > tomatoes. > > The canned diced tomatoes do have added salt. > > > > > Brian Ok, I'll check that next time I hit the store. :-) I don't pay a significantly higher price for "no salt added" tomato paste, but I may be being misled. Thanks. -- Peace! Om I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama |
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zxcvbob > wrote: > Default User wrote: > > Omelet wrote: > > > >> In article > >> >, > >> Dan Abel > wrote: > >> > >>>> I can get a "no salt added" tomato paste too. :-) IMHO the flavor > >>>> is superior. > >>> I've never met a can of tomato paste with added salt. Perhaps > >>> there are regional differences? I've also found that canned > >>> crushed tomatoes don't have added salt. > >> Please watch your attribution snipping. I'm a low salt advocate. > >> > >> And yes, locally here, there are cans labeled "no salt added" for > >> tomato paste. I see I'm going to have to take the digicam to the > >> grocery store. > >> > >> There is a drastic difference in sodium content. > > > > I pulled a can of Contadina tomato paste from the pantry. Ingredients: > > tomatoes. > > > > The canned diced tomatoes do have added salt. > > > > > > > Contadina also has a paste with salt, sugar, minced onion, garlic, and > spices in it. The "Italian Style" paste. It's really more of a > spaghetti sauce concentrate than a tomato paste (not that there's > anything wrong with that) I keep a can or two in the pantry for when > I'm feeling lazy. It's better than a lot of the jarred sauces. > > Bob I buy Del Monte brand canned sauces, They are quite good and far cheaper than the jarred. -- Peace! Om I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:54:07 -0500, suds macheath
> wrote: >I've read that making pizza from scratch is pretty easy. >Anybody have an easy recipe to share? A few people have posted their crust recipes. Here's the recipe I use for sauce (otherwise, you can buy it in jars or cans): * Exported from MasterCook * Pizza Sauce Recipe By :Carol Peterson Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Sauces/Gravies Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 2 tablespoons olive oil 1/2 cup chopped onion 1 garlic clove -- pressed 8 ounces tomato sauce 6 ounces tomato paste 1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce 2 tablespoons grated Parmesan cheese 2 teaspoons dried basil 2 teaspoons dried oregano 1/4 teaspoon black pepper Heat oil in a small saucepan. Add onions, and satué until golden. Stir in garlic, tomato sauce, tomato paste, Worcestershire sauce, Parmesan cheese, basil, oregano, and black pepper. Simmer for about 15 minutes. Cuisine: "Italian" -- Change "invalid" to JamesBond's agent number to reply. |
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zxcvbob wrote:
> Default User wrote: > > I pulled a can of Contadina tomato paste from the pantry. > > Ingredients: tomatoes. > > > > The canned diced tomatoes do have added salt. > > > > > > > Contadina also has a paste with salt, sugar, minced onion, garlic, > and spices in it. The "Italian Style" paste. It's really more of a > spaghetti sauce concentrate than a tomato paste (not that there's > anything wrong with that) I keep a can or two in the pantry for when > I'm feeling lazy. It's better than a lot of the jarred sauces. There are a number of flavored pastes of various sorts these days. It's somewhat annoying as my usual supermarket shelves them on the bottom where it's dark, and it can take a couple tries at times to get the correct one. Brian -- Day 26 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project |
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:03:31 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
> wrote: >A few people have posted their crust recipes. Here's the recipe I use >for sauce (otherwise, you can buy it in jars or cans): I don't believe you could make that recipe for a dollar....about the cost of a jar. What do you use to make White Pizza? |
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:24:36 -0500, Mr. Bill > wrote:
>On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:03:31 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > >>A few people have posted their crust recipes. Here's the recipe I use >>for sauce (otherwise, you can buy it in jars or cans): > >I don't believe you could make that recipe for a dollar....about the >cost of a jar. What do you use to make White Pizza? It's a trade-off. Do you want homemade, where you can control the flavor, or do you want easy and less expensive? I do both, depending on how energetic I'm feeling and on what's in the house. I've never made White Pizza. I'd be happy if someone posted a recipe, though. Carol -- Change "invalid" to JamesBond's agent number to reply. |
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"Damsel in dis Dress" ha scritto nel messaggio
Do you want homemade, where you can control the> flavor, or do you want easy and less expensive? How about clean, even, these days. > > I've never made White Pizza. I'd be happy if someone posted a recipe, > though. > > Carol You do not need a recipe. Start with the best crust you can make. Don't put tomato on it. Put whatever else you like on it. My fave to make at home is sliced garlic, sprinkling of crushed chili pepper, fresh mozzarella and oil-- needs salt too. Some of my faves to buy a potato and onion, with just that, some rosemary, black pepper and raw oil when cooked. Zucchine, which is sliced garlic, zucchine, salt and oil. My fave pizza period is stracchino cheese with raw arugula torn over it when it comes out and then a thread of good raw oil. Many like tuna and onion, but I don't. |
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On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:56:16 +0100, "Giusi" >
wrote: >"Damsel in dis Dress" ha scritto nel messaggio > >Do you want homemade, where you can control the> flavor, or do you want easy >and less expensive? > >How about clean, even, these days. I still start with a canned tomato sauce, so mine isn't completely homemade. I'd love to put tomato slices on our pizzas, but Crash gets sick from the texture. Some folks do. I used to get sick from bananas, even though I love them. >> I've never made White Pizza. I'd be happy if someone posted a recipe, >> though. > >You do not need a recipe. Start with the best crust you can make. Don't >put tomato on it. Put whatever else you like on it. > >My fave to make at home is sliced garlic, sprinkling of crushed chili >pepper, fresh mozzarella and oil-- needs salt too. Thank you! We love white pizza, but haven't had it in years, since we moved from St. Paul. >Some of my faves to buy a potato and onion, with just that, some >rosemary, black pepper and raw oil when cooked. Zucchine, which is sliced >garlic, zucchine, salt and oil. My fave pizza period is stracchino cheese >with raw arugula torn over it when it comes out and then a thread of good >raw oil. If I were making one just for myself, I think I'd go with Greek salad ingredients. ![]() >Many like tuna and onion, but I don't. Hot tuna and I are bitter enemies. LOL! Carol -- Change "invalid" to JamesBond's agent number to reply. |
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:48:01 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
> wrote: > Do you want homemade, where you can control the >flavor, or do you want easy and less expensive? I don't rely on the "sauce" for the flavor....just the topping ingredients and a fresh sprinkle of Penzeys' Italian seasoning. That does more than a couple of tablespoons of sauce spread across the crust. And the BEST mozzarella and grated parmesan cheese you can afford!! |
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:48:01 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
> wrote: >I've never made White Pizza. I'd be happy if someone posted a recipe, >though. Carol...this is my recipe. Been using it for quite a while. I love it and sometimes replace the fresh basil with Sunny Paris. This sauce is perfect for Thai chicken pizza. @@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format White Pizza Sauce Recipe none 2 tablespoons butter 3 tablespoons flour 1 cup milk 1/4 teaspoon salt 1/8 teaspoon pepper 1 garlic clove, minced 2 tablespoons fresh basil, minced 1/2 cup parmigiano-reggiano cheese; shredded Heat butter in a small saucepan. Add flour and stir until thoroughly mixed. Slowly whisk in milk, adding gradually. Stir in remaining ingredients. Will thicken upon standing. ** Exported from Now You're Cooking! v5.84 ** |
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:03:31 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
> wrote: >A few people have posted their crust recipes. Here's the recipe I use >for sauce (otherwise, you can buy it in jars or cans): I put a little EVOO on the crust and use tomato paste right out of the can. -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:48:01 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
> wrote: >I've never made White Pizza. I'd be happy if someone posted a recipe, >though. Try pesto pizza sometime, again it's straight from the jar. -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:08:15 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, Damsel in dis
Dress > wrote, >I still start with a canned tomato sauce, so mine isn't completely >homemade. I'd love to put tomato slices on our pizzas, but Crash gets >sick from the texture. If I put stuff like tomato slices on, my pizza tends to turn into a plate of soup. |
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David Harmon wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:08:15 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, Damsel in dis > Dress > wrote, >> I still start with a canned tomato sauce, so mine isn't completely >> homemade. I'd love to put tomato slices on our pizzas, but Crash gets >> sick from the texture. > > If I put stuff like tomato slices on, my pizza tends to turn into a > plate of soup. > Do you seed the tomatoes first? Just squeeze the seed goo out and then slice. Easily done with Roma tomatoes. |
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"David Harmon" ha scritto nel messaggio
> If I put stuff like tomato slices on, my pizza tends to turn into a > plate of soup. Buy some canned Roma tomatoes. Put them in a strainer and stab each one. Let them drain an hour or two. When ready to make the pizza, scatter some oregano and sliced garlic on the crust and squish the tomatoes in your fist, through your fingers on top. Proceed as if you had used anything else. It usually tastes better than almost anything else. > |
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Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:24:36 -0500, Mr. Bill > wrote: > > >On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:03:31 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress > > wrote: > > > >>A few people have posted their crust recipes. Here's the recipe I use > >>for sauce (otherwise, you can buy it in jars or cans): > > > >I don't believe you could make that recipe for a dollar....about the > >cost of a jar. What do you use to make White Pizza? > > It's a trade-off. Do you want homemade, where you can control the > flavor, or do you want easy and less expensive? I do both, depending > on how energetic I'm feeling and on what's in the house. We do both, at the same time! The easiest is to open a can of tomato sauce (a small can, 8 oz is plenty for us), spoon on pizza and spread around. It's already seasoned. We add dried herbs on top of that. If we're ambitious, we'll put the dried herbs in the can of sauce and let it sit for a few minutes before spreading. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:54:23 -0800, sf > wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:48:01 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > >>I've never made White Pizza. I'd be happy if someone posted a recipe, >>though. > >Try pesto pizza sometime, again it's straight from the jar. I have a jar of pesto that came bundled with spaghetti sauce. I haven't had a clue what to do with it. Pizza sounds good! Thanks, Carol -- Change "invalid" to JamesBond's agent number to reply. |
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:04:15 -0500, Mr. Bill > wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:48:01 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > >>I've never made White Pizza. I'd be happy if someone posted a recipe, >>though. > >Carol...this is my recipe. Been using it for quite a while. > >I love it and sometimes replace the fresh basil with Sunny Paris. This >sauce is perfect for Thai chicken pizza. > > >@@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format > >White Pizza Sauce Recipe I love Thai chicken pizza. I've only had it once, but it was great. Now that I'm making pizzas at home, I can make a small one just for myself. Great idea! And you can't go wrong with Sunny Paris. ![]() Thanks, Carol -- Change "invalid" to JamesBond's agent number to reply. |
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