I was reading a magazine yesterday and it said as we age we need more
protein to help protect our bones. Said a woman who is 5'4" and 154 pounds
should eat 77 grams of protein a day. Then went on to say that most meats
have 28 grams per 3 oz. serving. Beans have only 18 grams per serving.

I am screwed. I have maybe 2 servings of beans per day and at breakfast I
have flaxseeds and chia seeds. There is some protein in those things but I
would think not a lot. I've also had some cashews and soaked walnuts.

I am finding it very hard to get protein into my diet. I can not eat any
eggs, dairy, chicken or fish. I have done very little cooking since Angela
started on this diet. She has been eating canned refried beans (no fat),
canned kidney beans, hummus, some Italian soup made of white kidney beans
and tomatoes that is very expensive and comes in a jar (must find recipe for
that), tuna, cooked chicken, turkey, beef, beef jerky with no sugar, plenty
of veggies (mainly raw) and recently added in whole grains and fruits.
Tomorrow she will have two fruits and two grains per day and by the end of
the week it will be three of each.

Then perhaps I can start cooking some things that we both can eat. I
haven't done very well in restaurants either because we haven't dined out
much and we haven't been to places where I normally order meat.

I've mostly been eating bean tacos and hummus with flat bread.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> I was reading a magazine yesterday and it said as we age we need more
> protein to help protect our bones. Said a woman who is 5'4" and 154
> pounds should eat 77 grams of protein a day. Then went on to say that
> most meats have 28 grams per 3 oz. serving. Beans have only 18 grams
> per serving.
>
> I am screwed. I have maybe 2 servings of beans per day and at
> breakfast I have flaxseeds and chia seeds. There is some protein in
> those things but I would think not a lot. I've also had some cashews
> and soaked walnuts.
>
> I am finding it very hard to get protein into my diet. I can not eat
> any eggs, dairy, chicken or fish. I have done very little cooking
> since Angela started on this diet. She has been eating canned refried
> beans (no fat), canned kidney beans, hummus, some Italian soup made of
> white kidney beans and tomatoes that is very expensive and comes in a
> jar (must find recipe for that), tuna, cooked chicken, turkey, beef,
> beef jerky with no sugar, plenty of veggies (mainly raw) and recently
> added in whole grains and fruits. Tomorrow she will have two fruits
> and two grains per day and by the end of the week it will be three of
> each.

That sounds really carby for someone with high insulin problems.
Jazzy started putting on a bit of weight around the thighs recently. As
it was almost time for her annual blood tests (thyroid mainly) I asked
for a type 2 bloodwork as well. That came back normal in all respects
but thyroid was just out of range for hypothyroidism. Getting tested
again in July, then work from there. In the meantime I thought it
wouldn't hurt to change her diet a bit and get rid of the weight before
it became a problem. She is basically eating mostly animal protein and
veggies, little starch, no fruit as she has gone off them anyway. She
has lost the 3.5 kg already so I have let up a bit on the diet. Now
working on getting her moving a bit as she has started to not want to do
anything in recent months (another reason why I brought forward the
thyroid testing). I spoke to her teacher, this year she has been taken
everywhere by bus to local area activities along with wheelchair bound
kids. I requested that she walk to the activities like she did with her
last teacher last year. Her teacher was taking the easy way out because
he read on her profile that she is a "runner". I told him it was nothing
that holding her hand couldn't prevent

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>> I was reading a magazine yesterday and it said as we age we need more
>> protein to help protect our bones. Said a woman who is 5'4" and 154
>> pounds should eat 77 grams of protein a day. Then went on to say that
>> most meats have 28 grams per 3 oz. serving. Beans have only 18 grams per
>> serving.
>>
>> I am screwed. I have maybe 2 servings of beans per day and at breakfast
>> I have flaxseeds and chia seeds. There is some protein in those things
>> but I would think not a lot. I've also had some cashews and soaked
>> walnuts.
>>
>> I am finding it very hard to get protein into my diet. I can not eat any
>> eggs, dairy, chicken or fish. I have done very little cooking since
>> Angela started on this diet. She has been eating canned refried beans
>> (no fat), canned kidney beans, hummus, some Italian soup made of white
>> kidney beans and tomatoes that is very expensive and comes in a jar (must
>> find recipe for that), tuna, cooked chicken, turkey, beef, beef jerky
>> with no sugar, plenty of veggies (mainly raw) and recently added in whole
>> grains and fruits. Tomorrow she will have two fruits and two grains per
>> day and by the end of the week it will be three of each.
>
> That sounds really carby for someone with high insulin problems.
> Jazzy started putting on a bit of weight around the thighs recently. As it
> was almost time for her annual blood tests (thyroid mainly) I asked for a
> type 2 bloodwork as well. That came back normal in all respects but
> thyroid was just out of range for hypothyroidism. Getting tested again in
> July, then work from there. In the meantime I thought it wouldn't hurt to
> change her diet a bit and get rid of the weight before it became a
> problem. She is basically eating mostly animal protein and veggies, little
> starch, no fruit as she has gone off them anyway. She has lost the 3.5 kg
> already so I have let up a bit on the diet. Now working on getting her
> moving a bit as she has started to not want to do anything in recent
> months (another reason why I brought forward the thyroid testing). I spoke
> to her teacher, this year she has been taken everywhere by bus to local
> area activities along with wheelchair bound kids. I requested that she
> walk to the activities like she did with her last teacher last year. Her
> teacher was taking the easy way out because he read on her profile that
> she is a "runner". I told him it was nothing that holding her hand
> couldn't prevent

That seems to be the amount of carbs that I need. If I eat any less my BG
goes up waaaay too high. Like into the 300's. Low carbing simply does not
work for me. My BG is back down now. Thankfully no hypos yet but much more
in the normal range.

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>>> I was reading a magazine yesterday and it said as we age we need
>>> more protein to help protect our bones. Said a woman who is 5'4"
>>> and 154 pounds should eat 77 grams of protein a day. Then went on
>>> to say that most meats have 28 grams per 3 oz. serving. Beans have
>>> only 18 grams per serving.
>>>
>>> I am screwed. I have maybe 2 servings of beans per day and at
>>> breakfast I have flaxseeds and chia seeds. There is some protein in
>>> those things but I would think not a lot. I've also had some
>>> cashews and soaked walnuts.
>>>
>>> I am finding it very hard to get protein into my diet. I can not
>>> eat any eggs, dairy, chicken or fish. I have done very little
>>> cooking since Angela started on this diet. She has been eating
>>> canned refried beans (no fat), canned kidney beans, hummus, some
>>> Italian soup made of white kidney beans and tomatoes that is very
>>> expensive and comes in a jar (must find recipe for that), tuna,
>>> cooked chicken, turkey, beef, beef jerky with no sugar, plenty of
>>> veggies (mainly raw) and recently added in whole grains and fruits.
>>> Tomorrow she will have two fruits and two grains per day and by the
>>> end of the week it will be three of each.
>>
>> That sounds really carby for someone with high insulin problems.
>> Jazzy started putting on a bit of weight around the thighs recently.
>> As it was almost time for her annual blood tests (thyroid mainly) I
>> asked for a type 2 bloodwork as well. That came back normal in all
>> respects but thyroid was just out of range for hypothyroidism.
>> Getting tested again in July, then work from there. In the meantime I
>> thought it wouldn't hurt to change her diet a bit and get rid of the
>> weight before it became a problem. She is basically eating mostly
>> animal protein and veggies, little starch, no fruit as she has gone
>> off them anyway. She has lost the 3.5 kg already so I have let up a
>> bit on the diet. Now working on getting her moving a bit as she has
>> started to not want to do anything in recent months (another reason
>> why I brought forward the thyroid testing). I spoke to her teacher,
>> this year she has been taken everywhere by bus to local area
>> activities along with wheelchair bound kids. I requested that she
>> walk to the activities like she did with her last teacher last year.
>> Her teacher was taking the easy way out because he read on her
>> profile that she is a "runner". I told him it was nothing that
>> holding her hand couldn't prevent
>
> That seems to be the amount of carbs that I need. If I eat any less
> my BG goes up waaaay too high. Like into the 300's. Low carbing
> simply does not work for me. My BG is back down now. Thankfully no
> hypos yet but much more in the normal range.

I meant Angela actually. I can't see how that diet could possibly reduce
her insulin. And she will be adding even more by the end of the week. It
would also be defeating the purpose of taking Metformin and a very good
reason why she was getting the diarrhoea.

I would be reducing the starches, fruit and beans and concentrating more
on the animal protein and other veggies. If the hyperinsulimenia isn't
treated properly then full blown type 2 could be just around the corner.
Who is prescribing this kind of diet?

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>>>> I was reading a magazine yesterday and it said as we age we need more
>>>> protein to help protect our bones. Said a woman who is 5'4" and 154
>>>> pounds should eat 77 grams of protein a day. Then went on to say that
>>>> most meats have 28 grams per 3 oz. serving. Beans have only 18 grams
>>>> per serving.
>>>>
>>>> I am screwed. I have maybe 2 servings of beans per day and at
>>>> breakfast I have flaxseeds and chia seeds. There is some protein in
>>>> those things but I would think not a lot. I've also had some cashews
>>>> and soaked walnuts.
>>>>
>>>> I am finding it very hard to get protein into my diet. I can not eat
>>>> any eggs, dairy, chicken or fish. I have done very little cooking
>>>> since Angela started on this diet. She has been eating canned refried
>>>> beans (no fat), canned kidney beans, hummus, some Italian soup made of
>>>> white kidney beans and tomatoes that is very expensive and comes in a
>>>> jar (must find recipe for that), tuna, cooked chicken, turkey, beef,
>>>> beef jerky with no sugar, plenty of veggies (mainly raw) and recently
>>>> added in whole grains and fruits. Tomorrow she will have two fruits and
>>>> two grains per day and by the end of the week it will be three of each.
>>>
>>> That sounds really carby for someone with high insulin problems.
>>> Jazzy started putting on a bit of weight around the thighs recently. As
>>> it was almost time for her annual blood tests (thyroid mainly) I asked
>>> for a type 2 bloodwork as well. That came back normal in all respects
>>> but thyroid was just out of range for hypothyroidism. Getting tested
>>> again in July, then work from there. In the meantime I thought it
>>> wouldn't hurt to change her diet a bit and get rid of the weight before
>>> it became a problem. She is basically eating mostly animal protein and
>>> veggies, little starch, no fruit as she has gone off them anyway. She
>>> has lost the 3.5 kg already so I have let up a bit on the diet. Now
>>> working on getting her moving a bit as she has started to not want to do
>>> anything in recent months (another reason why I brought forward the
>>> thyroid testing). I spoke to her teacher, this year she has been taken
>>> everywhere by bus to local area activities along with wheelchair bound
>>> kids. I requested that she walk to the activities like she did with her
>>> last teacher last year. Her teacher was taking the easy way out because
>>> he read on her profile that she is a "runner". I told him it was nothing
>>> that holding her hand couldn't prevent
>>
>> That seems to be the amount of carbs that I need. If I eat any less my
>> BG goes up waaaay too high. Like into the 300's. Low carbing simply
>> does not work for me. My BG is back down now. Thankfully no hypos yet
>> but much more in the normal range.
>
> I meant Angela actually. I can't see how that diet could possibly reduce
> her insulin. And she will be adding even more by the end of the week. It
> would also be defeating the purpose of taking Metformin and a very good
> reason why she was getting the diarrhoea.

The diet isn't supposed to reduce her insulin. It's to make her lose
weight. AFAIK she has lost 10 pounds. Could be more. I don't think she
has weighed herself for a few days. Then if all works as it should, if she
gets her weight down, her insulin level will go down.
>
> I would be reducing the starches, fruit and beans and concentrating more
> on the animal protein and other veggies. If the hyperinsulimenia isn't
> treated properly then full blown type 2 could be just around the corner.
> Who is prescribing this kind of diet?

That is not a balanced diet and the book says no one should eat like that
more than two weeks at a time. It's the South Beach diet and it was
prescribed by her gastroenterologist. I don't think eating 3 servings of
fruit and 3 servings of whole grains per day is a lot of carbs.

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>>>>> I was reading a magazine yesterday and it said as we age we need
>>>>> more protein to help protect our bones. Said a woman who is 5'4"
>>>>> and 154 pounds should eat 77 grams of protein a day. Then went on
>>>>> to say that most meats have 28 grams per 3 oz. serving. Beans
>>>>> have only 18 grams per serving.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am screwed. I have maybe 2 servings of beans per day and at
>>>>> breakfast I have flaxseeds and chia seeds. There is some protein
>>>>> in those things but I would think not a lot. I've also had some
>>>>> cashews and soaked walnuts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am finding it very hard to get protein into my diet. I can not
>>>>> eat any eggs, dairy, chicken or fish. I have done very little
>>>>> cooking since Angela started on this diet. She has been eating
>>>>> canned refried beans (no fat), canned kidney beans, hummus, some
>>>>> Italian soup made of white kidney beans and tomatoes that is very
>>>>> expensive and comes in a jar (must find recipe for that), tuna,
>>>>> cooked chicken, turkey, beef, beef jerky with no sugar, plenty of
>>>>> veggies (mainly raw) and recently added in whole grains and
>>>>> fruits. Tomorrow she will have two fruits and two grains per day
>>>>> and by the end of the week it will be three of each.
>>>>
>>>> That sounds really carby for someone with high insulin problems.
>>>> Jazzy started putting on a bit of weight around the thighs
>>>> recently. As it was almost time for her annual blood tests (thyroid
>>>> mainly) I asked for a type 2 bloodwork as well. That came back
>>>> normal in all respects but thyroid was just out of range for
>>>> hypothyroidism. Getting tested again in July, then work from there.
>>>> In the meantime I thought it wouldn't hurt to change her diet a bit
>>>> and get rid of the weight before it became a problem. She is
>>>> basically eating mostly animal protein and veggies, little starch,
>>>> no fruit as she has gone off them anyway. She has lost the 3.5 kg
>>>> already so I have let up a bit on the diet. Now working on getting
>>>> her moving a bit as she has started to not want to do anything in
>>>> recent months (another reason why I brought forward the thyroid
>>>> testing). I spoke to her teacher, this year she has been taken
>>>> everywhere by bus to local area activities along with wheelchair
>>>> bound kids. I requested that she walk to the activities like she
>>>> did with her last teacher last year. Her teacher was taking the
>>>> easy way out because he read on her profile that she is a "runner".
>>>> I told him it was nothing that holding her hand couldn't prevent
>>>
>>> That seems to be the amount of carbs that I need. If I eat any less
>>> my BG goes up waaaay too high. Like into the 300's. Low carbing
>>> simply does not work for me. My BG is back down now. Thankfully no
>>> hypos yet but much more in the normal range.
>>
>> I meant Angela actually. I can't see how that diet could possibly
>> reduce her insulin. And she will be adding even more by the end of
>> the week. It would also be defeating the purpose of taking Metformin
>> and a very good reason why she was getting the diarrhoea.
>
> The diet isn't supposed to reduce her insulin. It's to make her lose
> weight. AFAIK she has lost 10 pounds. Could be more. I don't think
> she has weighed herself for a few days. Then if all works as it
> should, if she gets her weight down, her insulin level will go down.
>>
>> I would be reducing the starches, fruit and beans and concentrating
>> more on the animal protein and other veggies. If the hyperinsulimenia
>> isn't treated properly then full blown type 2 could be just around
>> the corner. Who is prescribing this kind of diet?
>
> That is not a balanced diet and the book says no one should eat like
> that more than two weeks at a time. It's the South Beach diet and it
> was prescribed by her gastroenterologist. I don't think eating 3
> servings of fruit and 3 servings of whole grains per day is a lot of
> carbs.

Coupled with beans it is and definitely is for someone with
hyperinsulinemia. South Beach diet isn't a good diet for type 2's or
people with hyperinsulinemia, insulin resistance etc.
Its actually getting pretty close to te old ADA style dietary
recommendations.

I thought she had already lost a lot of weight (way more than 10
pounds?). While weight loss is a good way to reduce insulin, it
shouldn't be counteracted by a carby diet. When I lost my 45kg with
reduced calories AND reduced carb it improved the hyperinsulinemia but
didn't take it away altogether, that only happened when I reduced carbs
even further. My carb level was getting close to Atkins' induction for
that past few weeks. Not something I could have done for any great
length of time but it was necessary to do the job. IMO a weight loss
diet (lowered calories) AND a lowered carb diet are necessary (along
with some sort of regular exercise) to attack the problem. prevention of
diabetes and conditions like pcos is worth so much more than having to
treat it once it rears its head.

If you take control on eating habits then this can keep you protect form unhealthy threads. Protein is the main base for over weight. I daily use only 1300 calories by changing my eating habits. I mostly use fresh fruits, raw and boiled vegetables. These are full of vitamins and minerals that help to keep body in better positions.
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