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![]() dh@. wrote: > On 15 Jan 2006 15:55:57 -0800, "Dave" > wrote: > > > > >dh@. wrote: > >> On 14 Jan 2006 05:50:01 -0800, wrote: > >> > >> >We do not eat meat for the same reason cited by you. We eat eggs from > >> >cage free chickens > >> > >> More on the chicken thing. Since most broiler chickens have decent > >> but short lives, > > > >Unlikely. > > > >> eating chicken most often contributes to decent lives for > >> chickens, along with the associated cds. > > > >What does the term "food conversion ratio" mean to you dhld? > > Little or nothing When you consume a broiler chicken you also indirectly consume all the crops grown to feed that chicken. > in regards to whether or not it's cruel to animals to > raise them for food, I believe modern industrial methods of animal so-called farming are cruel. I don't believe raising animals for food is cruel per-se. > which is what I consider to be the main issue. It is one of the main issues. Environmental impact is the other. > > >> Eating meat substitutes like the > >> following: > >> > >> Worthington Meatless Chicken, Turkey, Ham, Vegetarian Hot Dogs > >> and Prosage Patties > >> > >> Lightlife Chicken Nuggets and Chicken Patties > >> > >> Boca Meatless Chick'n and Breakfast Patties > >> > >> Quorn Meat-Free Patties, Nuggets and Cutlets > >> > >> Morningstar Farms Garden Veggie Patties, Chick Patties, > >> Chik'n Nuggets, Corn Dogs > >> > >> contributes to cds associated with raising chickens, plus those > >> associated with the veggies in the products, plus it contributes > >> to the battery method of raising hens > > > >Presumably the poster you are replying to would not eat the > >products on those grounds. > > Maybe. It's more certain that he/she would not eat products > in order to deliberately contribute to decent lives for animals > raised to eat. With all that spinning you do you must spend your life feeling dizzy. > >> since those products all > >> contain egg whites. Those "veg*n" products come out on the > >> less ethical side of real chicken, imo. |
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