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Eating no meat turns people into psychos!
Yes, the human body needs MEAT, because humans are predators and we
have to hunt and kill to survive. If you don't eat meat for a long time, you'll become crazy with lust for MEAT and one day, you will bite another human's ass or even eat your own flesh! Just a warning! |
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haha... this is the funniest thing i've heard all day. i just want to
thank you for the crack up... you must be one freaky human if you're all predator like! |
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Gerry Lintonice wrote:
> Yes, the human body needs MEAT, because humans are predators and we > have to hunt and kill to survive. You're perfectly right. Just stand still till we hunt you down and make a nice casserole. |
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Hi bojster. Nice to see you here.
Gerry Lintonice wrote: > Yes, the human body needs MEAT, because humans are predators and we > have to hunt and kill to survive. No, the human body does need certain proteins, most of which can be synthesized as long as there are sufficient *essential* amino acids present in the diet. And a vegetarian diet is much more friendly to the digestive tract. Trust me. |
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Gerry Lintonice wrote:
> Yes, the human body needs MEAT, because humans are predators and we > have to hunt and kill to survive. > > If you don't eat meat for a long time, you'll become crazy with lust > for MEAT and one day, you will bite another human's ass or even eat > your own flesh! > > Just a warning! Humans are predators and need to hunt and kill to survive, but apparently this is not true of lions. http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/...animals/117659 Quote:
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> Humans are predators and need to hunt and kill to survive...
Hunt and kill is redundant here so... >Humans are predators and need to hunt to survive... That is false, pre-Neolithic human societies were hunter-gatherer in nature. Man also learned how to gather plants and edible grains, and this is how the spread of agriculture and agrarian societies developed and of course how civilization sprouted and flourished. Besides i would be hard put to call driving an SUV and/or any yuppie friendly over-priced automobile to the corner store or the local supermarket to buy dinner as any form of hunting, or gathering, other than the moot comparison of the obvious fact of mostly eating the flesh of dead and horrifically and brutally tortured animals. |
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"Pinnochio Mojo" > wrote in message oups.com... >> Humans are predators and need to hunt and kill to survive... > > Hunt and kill is redundant here so... > >>Humans are predators and need to hunt to survive... > > That is false, pre-Neolithic human societies were > hunter-gatherer in > nature. Man also learned how to gather plants and edible > grains, and > this is how the spread of agriculture and agrarian societies > developed > and of course how civilization sprouted and flourished. > > Besides i would be hard put to call driving an SUV and/or any > yuppie > friendly over-priced automobile to the corner store or the > local > supermarket to buy dinner as any form of hunting, or gathering, > other > than the moot comparison of the obvious fact of mostly eating > the flesh > of dead and horrifically and brutally tortured animals. ===================== Nice little emotive spew. Too bad it's far from the truth. You really want to know which animals die far more brutally and inhumnely than ANY beef cow? The mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, and amphibians that die for your cheap, clean, convenient veggies are the ones that die far more brutally, hypocrite. Why do you ignore all that blood on your hands? > |
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rick wrote:
> Nice little emotive spew. Irrelevant. Ad hominem. > Too bad it's far from the truth. Not unless you are duly ignorant of basic science and hunter-gatherer cultures. > You really want to know which animals die far more brutally and > inhumnely than ANY beef cow? Ahhh. We are getting somewhere. You admit that factory farmed cows and other animals die brutal, gruesome, and violent deaths and live tortured and horrific lifes. > The mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, and amphibians that die for > your cheap, clean, convenient veggies are the ones that die far > more brutally, hypocrite. Not the vegetables that are from my garden. Sorry. Name some of these animals if you would be so kind. You exaggerate my friend. > Why do you ignore all that blood on your hands? i don't. That is why i'm a vegan. That is why i live and follow a lifestyle based on humane ethics and *compassion*. And would you care to provide some proof beyond the laughable "so many mice killed by machines per square acre" of soy example? Please. |
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What an impressive collection of links. >>>NOT<<<
You must be a professional troll. Your links are irrelevant. As are you faulty and/or non-existent assertions. Maybe you could answer the question why only vegans are responsible for the harm that comes to wildlife and/or why so seek to blame only vegans, but not simple-minded omnivores such as yourself. But something tells me you won't because you can't. You obviously possess no critical thinking skills - at all. Once again the topic is protein, amino acids, and protein synthesis by the human body, and what is necessary for "survival" - not how much harm industrialization does to the environment in general and how much wildlife is harmed by mankind solely to satisfy an imagined and profane profit motive. |
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"Pinnochio Mojo" > wrote in message oups.com... > What an impressive collection of links. >>>NOT<<< ========================== LOL Only because they gore your ox, eh fool? Supply any proof that being vegan automatically kills fewer animals than any other diet. > > You must be a professional troll. ------------------------- You must not know the meaning of the term. But then, willful stupidity is a vegan trademark... Your links are irrelevant. ========================= LOL Only to the brain-dead vegan that refuses to see their own impact on animals so that they can spend their time spewing about what they think others are doing. As are you > faulty and/or non-existent assertions. Maybe you could answer > the > question why only vegans are responsible for the harm that > comes to > wildlife and/or why so seek to blame only vegans, but not > simple-minded > omnivores such as yourself. But something tells me you won't > because > you can't. ============================ ROTFLMAO Unlike you fool, I admit that I kill animals. By the millions. For food, housing, heating, transportation, communications, consupmtion of goods, in fact, every aspect of my life. The difference isa that vegans pretend that they have now such impact on animals just because they don't eat them. What a delusion!! > > You obviously possess no critical thinking skills - at all. -----=============== Obviously far more than you have, hypocrite. Otherwise you'd understand your impact and do something about that rather than focus only on others. But then, spewing about what others do is far easier than actually doing anything to reduce your own bloody footprints, eh killer? > > Once again the topic is protein, amino acids, and protein > synthesis by > the human body, and what is necessary for "survival" - not how > much > harm industrialization does to the environment in general and > how much > wildlife is harmed by mankind solely to satisfy an imagined and > profane > profit motive. ======================= You are either totally ignorant of the discussion you are having, or just willfully deceptive because you know you're been had. Is that why you have snipped out the previous posts we've had, so that you can pretend they were about something else. Why not post the parts about proteins and amino acids you were discussing when I replied to your ranting? Restore dishonestly snipped posts... =========================== Animals die, just for your selfishness and conveninece, killer.... http://www.abcbirds.org/pesticides/pesticideindex.htm http://www.pmac.net/summer-rivers.html http://www.pmac.net/fishkill.htm http://www.pmac.net/summer-rivers.html http://www.pmac.net/bird_fish_CA.html http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/news...00/nitrate.htm http://www.abcbirds.org/pesticides/P...carbofuran.htm http://www.nwf.org/internationalwildlife/hawk.html http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Pn36/pn36p3.htm http://www.wwfcanada.org/satellite/p...eFactSheet.pdf http://www.ncwildlife.org/pg07_Wildl...on/pg7f2b6.htm http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/news/food/vegan.html http://www.wildlifedamagecontrol.com.../leastharm.htm http://www.panna.org/panna/resources...Cotton.dv.html http://www.sustainablecotton.org/TOUR/ http://ipm.ncsu.edu/wildlife/small_grains_wildlife.html http://www.gbr.wwf.org.au/content/problem/sugarcane.htm http://www.wildlifetrustofindia.org/...ele_poison.htm http://species.fws.gov/bio_rhin.html http://www.forages.css.orst.edu/Topi...rate/Mice.html http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/news/food/vegan.html http://www.hornedlizards.org/hornedlizards/help.html http://insects.tamu.edu/extension/bulletins/b-5093.html http://www.orst.edu/dept/ncs/newsarc...00/nitrate.htm http://www.orst.edu/instruct/fw251/n...riculture.html http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Pn35/pn35p6.html http://www.greenenergyohio.org/defau...iew&pageID=135 http://www.clearwater.org/news/powerplants.html http://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/capandtrade/power.pdf http://www.nirs.org/licensedtokill/L...xecsummary.pdf http://www.towerkill.com/index.html http://migratorybirds.fws.gov/issues/towers/towers.htm http://www.abcbirds.org/policy/towerkill.htm http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/pae/es_ma...ticle_22.mhtml http://www.netwalk.com/~vireo/devastatingtoll.html http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...7697992.htm?1c http://www.energy.ca.gov/pier/energy...00-01-019.html http://www.repp.org/repp_pubs/articl.../04impacts.htm http://www.wvrivers.org/anker-upshur.htm http://www.fisheries.org/html/Public...nts/ps_2.shtml http://www.powerscorecard.org/issue_...cfm?issue_id=5 http://www.safesecurevital.org/artic...012012004.html http://www.cgfi.org/materials/key_pu...oxic_Tools.pdf http://www.ontarioprofessionals.com/organic.htm http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm http://www.biotech-info.net/deadly_chemicals.html http://www.agnr.umd.edu/ipmnet/4-2art1.htm http://europa.eu.int/comm/environmen...ing_annex1.pdf Since your non-animal clothing isn't cruelty-free either, here's a couple to cover some problems with cotton. http://www.panna.org/panna/resources...Cotton.dv.html http://www.sustainablecotton.org/TOUR/ http://www.gbr.wwf.org.au/content/problem/cotton.htm To give you an idea of the sheer number of animals in a field, here's some sites about *just* mice and voles. Note that there can be 100s to 1000s in each acre, not the whole field. http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache...state.edu/pubs /natres/06507.pdf+%22voles+per+acre%22+field&hl=en&ie=UTF8 http://extension.usu.edu/publica/natrpubs/voles.pdf http://extension.ag.uidaho.edu/district4/MG/voles.html http://www.forages.css.orst.edu/Topi...rate/Mice.html To cover your selfish pleasure of using usenet, and maintaining a web page on same, here's are a couple dealing with power and communications. http://www.clearwater.org/news/powerplants.html http://www.towerkill.com/index.html > > |
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rick wrote:
> You must not know the meaning of the term. But then, willful > stupidity is a vegan trademark... Willful stupidity eh? Irrelevant. But then again, you don't seem to realize that eating the flesh of horrically tortured and brutally killed animals is both unethical and unwise. And it cause much more harm than a vegan diet. Rick you are mentally disturbed. And that's being nice. Please tell me what your hollowheaded rants have to do with how much and what kind of proteins and amino acids a human being needs to eat in order to 'survive' and live healthy. Nothing of course. |
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Jerry Story wrote:
> Gerry Lintonice wrote: > > Yes, the human body needs MEAT, because humans are predators and we > > have to hunt and kill to survive. > > > > If you don't eat meat for a long time, you'll become crazy with lust > > for MEAT and one day, you will bite another human's ass or even eat > > your own flesh! > > > > Just a warning! > > Humans are predators and need to hunt and kill to survive, but > apparently this is not true of lions. > http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/...animals/117659 > Quote:
For those who missed my point: If dogs and cats and lions can live healthy without meat, why not people? |
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 01:13:55 GMT, "rick" > wrote:
> >"Pinnochio Mojo" > wrote in message roups.com... Well he feels guilty unable to resist his glutoness urges for cooked animal fat and/or jealous non-meat eaters have evolved beyond that neanderthal-like level. One can well imagine a caricature of a hard-core meat-eater looking like Homer Simpson in caveman togs crying out "Meeeeat!!!" instead of "Donuts". >========================== >LOL Only because they gore your ox, eh fool? Supply any proof >that being vegan automatically kills fewer animals than any other >diet. > > |
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Joe wrote: > Well he feels guilty unable to resist his glutoness urges for cooked > animal fat and/or jealous non-meat eaters have evolved beyond that > neanderthal-like level. One can well imagine a caricature of a > hard-core meat-eater looking like Homer Simpson in caveman togs crying > out "Meeeeat!!!" instead of "Donuts". Yeah it's rather sad isn't it? i mean how someone can get so easily confused and continually spout disinformation instead of ethics. Or how he tries to blame the sins, the greed and the anthropocentric missteps of industrial society only on vegans. Totally in error. |
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"Pinnochio Mojo" > wrote in message oups.com... > rick wrote: > >> You must not know the meaning of the term. But then, willful >> stupidity is a vegan trademark... > > Willful stupidity eh? > > Irrelevant. > > But then again, you don't seem to realize that eating the flesh > of > horrically tortured and brutally killed animals is both > unethical and > unwise. And it cause much more harm than a vegan diet. ========================= You've yet to prove any of those claims, killer. None of the animals I eat are tortured in anyway. Now, as to the animals that die for your veggies, that's quite a different story... Nothing 'unethical' about eating animals either. Happens all the time throughout the animal kingdom. Too bad you're too stupid to see that, eh hypocrite? You diet does not cause less/fewer/no death and suffering of animals than all other diets. You'd like to think so because it fits with your delusions and propaganda, but just saying it doesn't make it so, killer. > > Rick you are mentally disturbed. And that's being nice. ==================== Nope, I'm quite fine. You, on the other hand have a definite problem with reality, killer. > > Please tell me what your hollowheaded rants have to do with how > much > and what kind of proteins and amino acids a human being needs > to eat in > order to 'survive' and live healthy. Nothing of course. ======================= Again, since you dishonestly snipped all previous posts out, I must remind you, since you seem to have problems with comprehension(must be your diet) that the post I replied to had NOTHING in it about proteins and amino acids. It was only your ignorance and propaganda, and it was full of lys. Now, do try to keep up little boy... > |
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"Joe" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 01:13:55 GMT, "rick" > wrote: > >> >>"Pinnochio Mojo" > wrote in message groups.com... > > > Well he feels guilty unable to resist his glutoness urges for > cooked > animal fat and/or jealous non-meat eaters have evolved beyond > that > neanderthal-like level. One can well imagine a caricature of a > hard-core meat-eater looking like Homer Simpson in caveman togs > crying > out "Meeeeat!!!" instead of "Donuts". ========================== What, pray tell, is so evolved about killing millions upon millions of animals for your convenience and entertainment and leaving them to rot? Seems quite brutal and barbaric to me, but then, you're the one that seem to like that blood on your habds, eh hypocrite? >>========================== >>LOL Only because they gore your ox, eh fool? Supply any proof >>that being vegan automatically kills fewer animals than any >>other >>diet. ================= I notice you failed at this request too. At least you weren't dishonest and snipped it out... >> >> > > |
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"Pinnochio Mojo" > wrote in message oups.com... > > Joe wrote: > >> Well he feels guilty unable to resist his glutoness urges for >> cooked >> animal fat and/or jealous non-meat eaters have evolved beyond >> that >> neanderthal-like level. One can well imagine a caricature of a >> hard-core meat-eater looking like Homer Simpson in caveman >> togs crying >> out "Meeeeat!!!" instead of "Donuts". > > Yeah it's rather sad isn't it? i mean how someone can get so > easily > confused and continually spout disinformation instead of > ethics. > ============================== Really? Tell me one ly that I told, fool. I've posted proof that you diet is far from blood-free. > Or how he tries to blame the sins, the greed and the > anthropocentric > missteps of industrial society only on vegans. Totally in > error. >================================= ROTFLMAO You don't even have a clue, do you little one? |
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rick wrote: > Really? Tell me one [lie] that I told, fool. I've posted proof > that [your] diet is far from blood-free. Irrelevant. The topic is about human "top of the chain" "predators" and the active promotion of the exorbitantly flawed misconception that humans somehow "magically" and "mysteriously" need meat and/or the flesh of horrifically tortured and brutally slaughtered sentient animals to survive. Bullocks! When it is a fact that many foods, including those found in a vegetable based diet, do contain the necessary proteins and amino acids to maintain an healthful diet. You are selling snake oil. Of the worst kind. i almost want to laugh. Your shallow, nonexistant and hopelessly inelegant proof for a *cruelty free* diet applies to omnivores also, in case you didn't recognize and/or realize this, in fact even more so. But in fact you have proved nothing, except that you are a worthless adversary. One that can't determine simple truths or recognize simple facts. |
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"Pinnochio Mojo" > wrote in message oups.com... > > rick wrote: > >> Really? Tell me one [lie] that I told, fool. I've posted >> proof >> that [your] diet is far from blood-free. > > Irrelevant. =============== Completely relevent when addressing the lys and delusions of veg*n loons and idiots, like you, eh killer? > > The topic is about human "top of the chain" "predators" and the > active > promotion of the exorbitantly flawed misconception that humans > somehow > "magically" and "mysteriously" need meat and/or the flesh of > horrifically tortured and brutally slaughtered sentient animals > to > survive. ======================= Again, you have failed to prove that meat animals are "horrifically tortured and brutally slaughtered'. The animals YOU kill for your foods defintalety are. Too bad you are too willfully ignorant to understand, eh hypocrite? Bullocks! When it is a fact that many foods, including those > found in a vegetable based diet, do contain the necessary > proteins and > amino acids to maintain an healthful diet. > > You are selling snake oil. Of the worst kind. i almost want to > laugh. =========================== Most vegans do laugh at killing animals by the millions. It's their only real entertainment. > > Your shallow, nonexistant and hopelessly inelegant proof for a > *cruelty > free* diet applies to omnivores also, in case you didn't > recognize > and/or realize this, in fact even more so. ============================== Really? Again, prove you contention, killer. You've failed to provide anything but hatered and vitriol. Both are common problems with vegans. Must be their diets... But in fact you have proved > nothing, except that you are a worthless adversary. One that > can't > determine simple truths or recognize simple facts. ====================== ROTFLMAO This from a fool that hasn't proven anything he claims!!! What a hoot! You really are just too stupid for this, aren't you, little one? > |
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Pinnochio Mojo wrote:
> And a vegetarian diet is much more friendly to the digestive tract. Not for everyone, and there's a lot more to life than taking a fiber-rich dump. There's also nutrition and enjoyment -- issues which matter to people who don't share your vegan eating disorder. > Trust me. No. |
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Pinnochio Mojo wrote:
>>Humans are predators and need to hunt and kill to survive... > > Hunt and kill is redundant here so... No, one can hunt and not kill or kill without hunting. The two are mutually exclusive. > Besides i would be hard put to call driving an SUV and/or any yuppie > friendly over-priced automobile Jealous. > to the corner store or the local > supermarket to buy dinner as any form of hunting, or gathering, It's actually no different in the sense that we now barter (via cash or whatever) with those who do the killing and slaughtering -- rather than each human individually hunting and gathering, a few do that and exchange goods and services with those who do other work in the community of man. > other than the moot comparison Moot comparison? > of the obvious fact Obvious fact? > of mostly eating Mostly eating? > the flesh > of dead and horrifically and brutally tortured animals. I knew the hyperbole was right around the corner with all the "obvious fact" and "moot comparison" references. Most livestock are treated better than you'd ever treat your pets, city slicker. |
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