(Sky News) - British TV chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall claimed that
eating puppy meat is no more morally objectionable than consuming pork.

The celebrity chef previously shocked viewers by eating placenta pate,
curried fruit bat, giraffe and calf testicles and now claims that he
would not be against a "high-welfare organic puppy farm."

Fearnley-Whittingstall, the star of Channel 4's "River Cottage," was
asked by British magazine Radio Times whether he would try loin of
Labrador or cat liver.

"Not unless I was on the point of starvation," he replied. "In principle,
but not in practice, I have no objection to a high-welfare organic puppy
farm."

He added, "You can't object, unless you also object to the farming of
pigs. It's an artificial construct of our society, a cultural decision,
to make pets out of dogs and meat out of pigs. Both animals could be used
the other way round, although pigs probably do make better meat than dogs
and dogs better pets than pigs, but it's not a foregone conclusion."

On 10/12/2011 8:36 AM, Stephen Newport wrote:
> (Sky News) - British TV chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall claimed that
> eating puppy meat is no more morally objectionable than consuming pork.
>
> The celebrity chef previously shocked viewers by eating placenta pate,
> curried fruit bat, giraffe and calf testicles and now claims that he
> would not be against a "high-welfare organic puppy farm."
>
> Fearnley-Whittingstall, the star of Channel 4's "River Cottage," was
> asked by British magazine Radio Times whether he would try loin of
> Labrador or cat liver.
>
> "Not unless I was on the point of starvation," he replied. "In principle,
> but not in practice, I have no objection to a high-welfare organic puppy
> farm."
>
> He added, "You can't object, unless you also object to the farming of
> pigs. It's an artificial construct of our society, a cultural decision,
> to make pets out of dogs and meat out of pigs. Both animals could be used
> the other way round, although pigs probably do make better meat than dogs
> and dogs better pets than pigs, but it's not a foregone conclusion."
>

The Vietnamese Pot-bellied (or miniature) Pig makes quite a good pet but
I don't refuse pork. Given the long intertwined evolutionary development
of dogs and people, I think dogs deserve to be respected. See the recent
PBS documentary.


--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

In article >,
wrote:
>On 10/12/2011 8:36 AM, Stephen Newport wrote:
>> (Sky News) - British TV chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall claimed that
>> eating puppy meat is no more morally objectionable than consuming pork.
>>
>> The celebrity chef previously shocked viewers by eating placenta pate,
>> curried fruit bat, giraffe and calf testicles and now claims that he
>> would not be against a "high-welfare organic puppy farm."
>>
>> Fearnley-Whittingstall, the star of Channel 4's "River Cottage," was
>> asked by British magazine Radio Times whether he would try loin of
>> Labrador or cat liver.
>>
>> "Not unless I was on the point of starvation," he replied. "In principle,
>> but not in practice, I have no objection to a high-welfare organic puppy
>> farm."
>>
>> He added, "You can't object, unless you also object to the farming of
>> pigs. It's an artificial construct of our society, a cultural decision,
>> to make pets out of dogs and meat out of pigs. Both animals could be used
>> the other way round, although pigs probably do make better meat than dogs
>> and dogs better pets than pigs, but it's not a foregone conclusion.
>
>The Vietnamese Pot-bellied (or miniature) Pig makes quite a good pet but
>I don't refuse pork. Given the long intertwined evolutionary development
>of dogs and people, I think dogs deserve to be respected. See the recent
>PBS documentary.

I haven't seen anything from PBS (whatever that is :-) but I read a
paper recently on the domestication of animals in general in which it
was suggested dogs may have domesticated us, rather than the other way
around.

That said, I've often maintained that I couldn't eat an animal with
such noxious shit as a dog! (But as others have pointed out "If you
have cream with it, you could even eat dog shit!" :-)

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:40:43 AM UTC-5, Phred wrote:
> In article >,
> wrote:
> >On 10/12/2011 8:36 AM, Stephen Newport wrote:
> >> (Sky News) - British TV chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall claimed that
> >> eating puppy meat is no more morally objectionable than consuming pork.
> >>
> >> The celebrity chef previously shocked viewers by eating placenta pate,
> >> curried fruit bat, giraffe and calf testicles and now claims that he
> >> would not be against a "high-welfare organic puppy farm."
> >>
> >> Fearnley-Whittingstall, the star of Channel 4's "River Cottage," was
> >> asked by British magazine Radio Times whether he would try loin of
> >> Labrador or cat liver.
> >>
> >> "Not unless I was on the point of starvation," he replied. "In principle,
> >> but not in practice, I have no objection to a high-welfare organic puppy
> >> farm."
> >>
> >> He added, "You can't object, unless you also object to the farming of
> >> pigs. It's an artificial construct of our society, a cultural decision,
> >> to make pets out of dogs and meat out of pigs. Both animals could be used
> >> the other way round, although pigs probably do make better meat than dogs
> >> and dogs better pets than pigs, but it's not a foregone conclusion.
> >
> >The Vietnamese Pot-bellied (or miniature) Pig makes quite a good pet but
> >I don't refuse pork. Given the long intertwined evolutionary development
> >of dogs and people, I think dogs deserve to be respected. See the recent
> >PBS documentary.
>
> I haven't seen anything from PBS (whatever that is :-) but I read a
> paper recently on the domestication of animals in general in which it
> was suggested dogs may have domesticated us, rather than the other way
> around.

PBS is American public TV. The documentary is excellent.
>
> That said, I've often maintained that I couldn't eat an animal with
> such noxious shit as a dog!

I assume you've never found yourself downwind from a pig farm.
>
> Cheers, Phred.

--Bryan

GMT, (Phred) wrote:

-snip-
>
>I haven't seen anything from PBS (whatever that is :-) but I read a
>paper recently on the domestication of animals in general in which it
>was suggested dogs may have domesticated us, rather than the other way
>around.

I don't know about 'domesticating' - but my pug has certainly
*trained* our family well.<g>

>
>That said, I've often maintained that I couldn't eat an animal with
>such noxious shit as a dog!

Never been around chickens or pigs, eh?

I've eaten dog, and raised pigs. I think I'll stick with our [US]
customary practices of pigs for food & dogs for pets.

Jim

In article >, Jim Elbrecht
> wrote:
>GMT, (Phred) wrote:
>-snip-
>>
>>I haven't seen anything from PBS (whatever that is :-) but I read a
>>paper recently on the domestication of animals in general in which it
>>was suggested dogs may have domesticated us, rather than the other way
>>around.
>
>I don't know about 'domesticating' - but my pug has certainly
>*trained* our family well.<g>

:-)

>>That said, I've often maintained that I couldn't eat an animal with
>>such noxious shit as a dog!
>
>Never been around chickens or pigs, eh?

When I was a kid my grandmother had chooks -- but a couple of dozen
spread over an acre of lawn wasn't too bad (though I admit to the
occasional "squelsh" between the toes of bare feet :-).

Pigs? Well, yeah, the pong downwind of a pig farm is indeed very
nasty. But I've only once had pig shit on my shoes (in India of all
places) whereas dog shit was hard to avoid here until the local
Council got serious about bylaws a couple of decades ago.

>I've eaten dog, and raised pigs. I think I'll stick with our [US]
>customary practices of pigs for food & dogs for pets.

Pigs were put on earth for us to eat!

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

Agreed. i do love dogs and they deserve more than that. i think the thought of it just gross me out.

On Oct 12, 5:36*am, "Stephen Newport" > wrote:
> (Sky News) - British TV chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall claimed that
> eating puppy meat is no more morally objectionable than consuming pork.
>

Can you say "attention whore"?

I knew you could.

On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:00:00 -0700 (PDT), tutall >
wrote:

>On Oct 12, 5:36*am, "Stephen Newport" > wrote:
>> (Sky News) - British TV chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall claimed that
>> eating puppy meat is no more morally objectionable than consuming pork.
>>
>
>Can you say "attention whore"?

Puppy meat is probably how faggots refer to their SO... faggots don't
eat pussy.

Stephen Newport wrote:
>
> Fearnley-Whittingstall, the star of Channel 4's "River Cottage," was
> asked by British magazine Radio Times whether he would try loin of
> Labrador or cat liver.

Dog liver accumulates enough vitamins A/D to be toxic. Plenty of artic
explorers died fromt eh effects of eating the livers of their dogs
before that was learned. Cat liver should be at least as problematic.

Many object to eating pet animals. Heck, many object to eating venison
because "Bambi is too cute".

On 10/12/2011 12:24 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
> Stephen Newport wrote:
>>
>> Fearnley-Whittingstall, the star of Channel 4's "River Cottage," was
>> asked by British magazine Radio Times whether he would try loin of
>> Labrador or cat liver.
>
> Dog liver accumulates enough vitamins A/D to be toxic. Plenty of artic
> explorers died fromt eh effects of eating the livers of their dogs
> before that was learned. Cat liver should be at least as problematic.
>
> Many object to eating pet animals. Heck, many object to eating venison
> because "Bambi is too cute".

Tho as a gardener, I think of deer as horned rats, we have coexisted
until this dry summer. Then, a trio of cute, spotted, beautiful but very
thin fawns ate all the leaves off my house plants. I've been putting the
plants outside for the summer for 20 years without problems. There is
only one plant, periwinkle or Vinca minor, that deer don't eat in my
experience.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

James Silverton wrote:
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>
>> Many object to eating pet animals. Heck, many object to eating venison
>> because "Bambi is too cute".
>
> Tho as a gardener, I think of deer as horned rats, we have coexisted
> until this dry summer. Then, a trio of cute, spotted, beautiful but very
> thin fawns ate all the leaves off my house plants. I've been putting the
> plants outside for the summer for 20 years without problems. There is
> only one plant, periwinkle or Vinca minor, that deer don't eat in my
> experience.

When the opening day of deer season was one of the most popular holidays
there were enough hunters that deer in the country did not survive to
learn to live in the suburbs. Over time the number of hunters has
declined and the amount of suburbs has expanded.

The deer who did finally wander into the suburbs have experienced a lack
of predators so they are now multiplying like rats. And so they are
eating more and more gardens.

At some point animal control officers will be called in to cull the herd
the same as has happened with coyotes in many areas. What a waste of
venison.

On 10/12/2011 2:32 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:

> When the opening day of deer season was one of the most popular holidays
> there were enough hunters that deer in the country did not survive to
> learn to live in the suburbs. Over time the number of hunters has
> declined and the amount of suburbs has expanded.
>
> The deer who did finally wander into the suburbs have experienced a lack
> of predators so they are now multiplying like rats. And so they are
> eating more and more gardens.
>
> At some point animal control officers will be called in to cull the herd
> the same as has happened with coyotes in many areas. What a waste of
> venison.

Here in suburban MD, and even urban, I wonder if they will eventually do
that here? My mom sometimes has a dozen or more deer in her very small
backyard and she has nothing left in her gardens for them to eat.
They've even eaten some plants that they've previously left alone. I
think I already posted on here somewhere about all the deer poop she
finds and has to avoid in her yard.

I think the only predators deer have here are cars and trucks.

Well, since this is a cooking forum and the title compares eating puppy
meat to eating pork, I'd have to say that although puppy meat tastes OK
to me, a pork tenderloin tastes much better. The first time I ever ate
puppy was back in 1980 in Guilin, China. Tasted OK, but again, nothing
special to write home about (although I think I did at the time).


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