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wrote: > "Ron" > wrote > > "Dutch" > wrote: > > >> > > > I have purchased tomatoes in the past past 2 weeks, three times. > >> > > > Prior > >> > > > to this, I purchased some in approximately May of 2004. Imagine my > >> > > > surprise and chagrin to note that farmers still kill animals, use > >> > > > pesticides, clear land and all of those things when I don't buy > >> > > > their > >> > > > products. Could it be that they are responsible for their own > >> > > > actions? > >> I > >> > > > don't control the universe. They will still do what they do > >> independent > >> > > > of my actions. > >> > > > >> > > They are not independent of your actions, in fact they DEPEND on your > >> > > demand. The reason nothing changes is that your demand is very small, > >> but > >> > > significant in principle. > >> > > >> > Now you've changed the argument. They act independent of my action as > >> > was demonstrated. > >> > >> No, in theory supply responds 1:1 with fluctuations in demand. In reality > >> supply does not change unless there is a significant and peristent > >> change. > > > > In _theory_. Clearly, if I am and others are able to not buy tomatoes > > for periods of months and growers will still do their thing then, the > > ratio of 1:1 is false. > > I said 1:1 is theoretical, a supply curve can't work that way. Theoretical and actual are different. That was the point. Thank you for agreeing. > > Frankly, I wasn't interested in changing the > > dynamic at this time and for the reasons stated previously. A problem of > > theoretical constructions. > > There's no problem with the principle, if demands drops by a perceptible > amount for a single production cycle then production targets will be set > based on that level. That's where your impact is felt. |
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