In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> >> "Ron" > wrote
> >> >> > "Dutch" > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> > If people need to blame me for their actions, well, I'm a big boy
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > can handle that. The reality is, of course, that anyone who kills
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > relies on the "they made me do it argument" is just being
> >> >> >> > juvenile
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > passing responsibility for their own actions.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Who makes you place a demand for meat on the meat market?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You do, Dutch.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bad answer.
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm not responsible for my own actions under your
> >> >> > theoretical constructs.
> >> >>
> >> >> Nope, wrong again.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Someone else _must_ be responsible for my
> >> >> > demand.
> >> >>
> >> >> Nope, it's you.
> >> >>
> >> >> > How could I possibly be responsible for my own actions.
> >> >>
> >> >> How could anyone else?
> >> >
> >> > So how could I be responsible for the farmers actions?
> >>
> >> You're not, you're responsibile for your choice to support him by doing
> >> business with him.
> >
> > I accept that you want me to be responsible, but I'm not. Of course, the
> > childlike position of "i made him do it" doesn't hold much water for me.
>
> Who is forcing you to do business with animal-killing farmers Ronny? Who is
> making you do it? Why are you attempting to avoid responsibility for your
> personal choices?

My choice was to buy tomatoes today. That you've magnified that act into
some deed of evil is more about you than me. I needed some tomatoes
today. I bought the ones that conformed to my needs.

Evil, immoral me. Shoot me now. I bought tomatoes. I'm goin to hell in a
handbasket now. I'm just a heathen tomato eater.