On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 00:30:29 GMT, usual suspect > wrote:
>Reynard wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:26:16 GMT, usual suspect > wrote:
>>>Scented Nectar wrote:
>>>>Reynard wrote:
>>>>>On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:25:27 -0500, "Scented Nectar" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Why a month ago, what's different now? I gave up
>>>>>>meat in 1981. Recently I've begun eliminating the
>>>>>>last of the dairy in my meals, so if it's that you're
>>>>>>talking about, I haven't kept records and can't
>>>>>>therefore answer you.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's a bit like making a new year's resolution to stop
>>>>>dropping litter. Even though you had no idea of the
>>>>>amount of litter you were dropping in 2004, holding
>>>>>on to your litter and disposing of it properly in 2005
>>>>>will mean you have reduced your littering, however
>>>>>much littering you did prior to 2005. You don't need
>>>>>numbers to know you're reducing your litter, and the
>>>>>same goes for collateral deaths, so don't let the likes
>>>>>of 'usual suspect' tell you any different while he tries
>>>>>to belittle and dismiss your efforts.
>>>>
>>>>I see through him.
>>>
>>>No, you avoid dealing with facts whether they're presented by me
>>
>> Like this (below)
>
>Some of us learn from our mistakes;

Or, rather, some get taken in by the pushers and end
up being pushers themselves. You're a weak-willed
nebbish, easily taken in by the lies and disinformation
spread by the pushers here who coerced you into
taking their substances.

In these quotes below you state that you dislike flesh,
so how does learning from your mistakes suddenly
change your tastes for food items? You also state
that you believe the consumption of meat, dairy and
eggs are bad for you, animals, your environment, and
the whole World, but you sing a different tune now
you've become a meat pusher, so how did learning
from mistakes do that, pusher?

<restore>
"I dislike flesh, though my reasons for being vegan
are overwhelmingly health-oriented: I want to live
a long, healthy life, and I think the consumption of
meat, dairy, and eggs is bad for me, animals, my
environment, and the whole world. Is that first part
selfish? Perhaps to some people. Do the other,
more selfless consequences of my diet (no animal
must die for my nourishment or enjoyment, less
pollution and less harm to the environment, etc.)
mitigate the selfish notion of wanting to live long
and without serious health problems associated with
an animal-based diet?"
usual suspect Date: 2002-09-09

and

"Veganism costs less regardless of socio-economic
environs. Indeed, lesser well-off people are far more
likely to subsist on vegetarian diets; meat and dairy
are a product of 'advanced' society. It costs more to
produce dairy, beef, poultry, pork than grains,
vegetables, legumes; indeed, you must first raise the
latter to fatten the former. Skip the former entirely
and you have much more of the latter to feed the
world."
usual suspect Date: 2002-12-26

Those quotes belie your current pusher's position, and
no amount of regret will ever undo the hypocrisy of it.

The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all your Piety nor wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it.
Omar Khayyam