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Ron wrote:
> In article t>, > Jay Santos > wrote: > > > Ron wrote: > > > > > In article t>, > > > Jay Santos > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Ron wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>In article t>, > > >>> Jay Santos > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Ron wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>In article . net>, > > >>>>>Jay Santos > wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>Sophomore Ron wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>In article .net>, > > >>>>>>>Jay Santos > wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>Sophomore Ron wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>In article et>, > > >>>>>>>>>Jay Santos > wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>Sophomore Ron wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>That you equate veganism and forced sexual violence > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>I asked you to respond with a yes or a no, sophomoric > > >>>>>>>>>>shitbag. "Yes or no, Sophomore Ron - dispense with > > >>>>>>>>>>your usual blowhard windy equivocation." > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>Answer the question, Sophomore Ron, and answer it with > > >>>>>>>>>>a yes or a no: Do you believe sodomizing small > > >>>>>>>>>>children with broom handles to be morally wrong? Yes > > >>>>>>>>>>or no, shitbag; no one is interested in your sophistry. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>Do you? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>Answer the question, shitbag. Do you believe > > >>>>>>>>sodomizing small children with broom handles to be > > >>>>>>>>morally wrong? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>Answer yes or no, shitbag. No one is interested in > > >>>>>>>>reading yet more of your trite sophistry. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>We both must think it okay. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>No, don't speak for me, cocksucker. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Anyway, I'll take that as a "Yes, cocksucker Ron > > >>>>>>believe it to be morally wrong for adults to sodomize > > >>>>>>children", although given your sexual orientation, I'm > > >>>>>>not sure I believe you. Anyway, what took you so long > > >>>>>>to answer, cocksucker? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Since we have time to discuss anything here. > > >>>>>>>Since neither of us is championing the poor broomed children, we must > > >>>>>>>not view it as objectively or absolutely wrong. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>****wit - I'm not talking about what others might do to > > >>>>>>stop psychopath degenerates like you from sodomizing > > >>>>>>children. That isn't the issue, and my belief that it > > >>>>>>is absolutely wrong does not compel me to try to stop > > >>>>>>you from doing it. It DOES allow me to declare you > > >>>>>>evil for doing it. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>The point in asking the question, cocksucker, is to get > > >>>>>>Skanky Carpetmuncher and you to see that if YOU believe > > >>>>>>it is absolutely wrong, then YOU must not do it at all. > > >>>>>>It isn't about me preventing you from doing > > >>>>>>something, cocksucker; it's about YOU recognizing what > > >>>>>>your belief in moral absolutes necessarily dictates to > > >>>>>>YOU about YOUR behavior. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>You don't have the power to stop me from doing anything. > > >>>> > > >>>>That's probably false, but beside the point. It isn't > > >>>>my personal and direct obligation to stop you from > > >>>>committing evil acts. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Nor is it the vegan's responsibility to stop others from killing animals > > >>>-- if we accept your reasoning. > > >> > > >>I never suggested it was, homo. I said it is the > > >>"vegan's" responsibility not to participate in the > > >>process, in any way, that leads to killing animals. > > >>Buying from a producer who you know kills animals is > > >>participating. You can't believe the killing of > > >>animals is wrong and participate in the process. > > > > > > > > > Of course, she can. > > > > No, she can't. To participate means one doesn't really > > believe it's wrong. > > I clearly articulated the difficulty with this position No, you didn't demonstrate any difficulty at all with the position, Brucie. Run along now. |
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