Hi to all

Can someone recommand some good tea houses for grenn tea? I'm searching
for a good quality where I can be sure that the tea tastes well. Up to now
I have bougth so often tea that seemed to be old or it was a bad quality
(even though in the shop they told me that it is high quality tea, of
course). Now I don't want to become dissappointed anymore. Therefore my
question.

I'm living in Austria/Europe. Of course it would be the cheapest to order
somewhere in Austria. But maybe there are some better shops somewhere
else. Are there? It would be also very interesting to find a shop in
japan, india or china. I could imagine to get a very high quality. But it
might be to expensive or the transport takes to long. Has someone
experiences with such remote shops?

In addition the the tea should be organically.

Some recommandations?

Cheers,
Robert Schneider

Robert Schneider wrote:
> Hi to all
>
> Can someone recommand some good tea houses for grenn tea? I'm searching
> for a good quality where I can be sure that the tea tastes well. Up to
> now I have bougth so often tea that seemed to be old or it was a bad
> quality (even though in the shop they told me that it is high quality
> tea, of course). Now I don't want to become dissappointed anymore.
> Therefore my question.
>
> I'm living in Austria/Europe. Of course it would be the cheapest to
> order somewhere in Austria. But maybe there are some better shops
> somewhere else. Are there? It would be also very interesting to find a
> shop in japan, india or china. I could imagine to get a very high
> quality. But it might be to expensive or the transport takes to long.
> Has someone experiences with such remote shops?
>
> In addition the the tea should be organically.
>
Although Im not so experienced in tea testing, I heard that the best tea
were kept for export. So is it for Cognac In France, too.
I could still recommend you the best and most reknowned tea house in
Paris, France : The Mariage Freres Tea house, by which you can order tea
online at www.mariagefreres.com . They do also have many shops in japan.

It maybe a good choice to get their tea list
++

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vincent

"vincent" > wrote in message ...
> Robert Schneider wrote:
Snip
> Although Im not so experienced in tea testing, I heard that the best tea
> were kept for export. So is it for Cognac In France, too.
> I could still recommend you the best and most reknowned tea house in
> Paris, France : The Mariage Freres Tea house, by which you can order tea
> online at www.mariagefreres.com . They do also have many shops in japan.
> It maybe a good choice to get their tea list
> vincent

Hi Vincent, The site only seems to work in French & Japanese.
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Warrington
England

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:24:59 +0100, Robert Schneider wrote:

> Hi to all
>
> Can someone recommand some good tea houses for grenn tea? I'm searching
> for a good quality where I can be sure that the tea tastes well. Up to now
> I have bougth so often tea that seemed to be old or it was a bad quality
> (even though in the shop they told me that it is high quality tea, of
> course). Now I don't want to become dissappointed anymore. Therefore my
> question.
>
> I'm living in Austria/Europe. Of course it would be the cheapest to order
> somewhere in Austria. But maybe there are some better shops somewhere
> else. Are there? It would be also very interesting to find a shop in
> japan, india or china. I could imagine to get a very high quality. But it
> might be to expensive or the transport takes to long. Has someone
> experiences with such remote shops?
>
> In addition the the tea should be organically.
>
> Some recommandations?
>
> Cheers,
> Robert Schneider

Try www.derteeladen.de, they may even have a shop near you (Wien).

J Boehm

Yes, sounds interesting. Unfortunately it is not in English.

Is it really like you said that the best tea is for export? That means
also that your Cognac in France is worse than the one we can get here in
Austria from you? This is not what I thought. I guess the products for
export is bulk good, and I suppose that there is better quality to find -
just to know where is the problem. But maybe you're right.


Robert

"vincent" > wrote in message

> > Can someone recommand some good tea houses for grenn tea?

> I could still recommend you the best and most reknowned tea house in
> Paris, France : The Mariage Freres Tea house, by which you can order tea
> online at www.mariagefreres.com .

Il y a quoi comme thes verts chez Mariage Freres ? A part le truc qui me
sert de pot-pourri (si ca sent bon !)...le Marco Polo, je crois. Enfin bon,
je ne vais pas discuter des gouts et des couleurs. Mais c'est des marchands
de the "noir", et la personne en cherche du "vert".

(Mariage Freres is specialised in black teas, in flavored blends, they have
little to nothing to propose in green tea)

> They do also have many shops in japan.

Carrefour aussi.

Kuri

you can also go to www.theculturedcup.com in dallas-
they have a good selection of their teas
if you send mariage freres an e-mail mesg they will send ordering form-
joanne
"Dave Croft" > wrote in message
...
> "vincent" > wrote in message
...
> > Robert Schneider wrote:
> Snip
> > Although Im not so experienced in tea testing, I heard that the best tea
> > were kept for export. So is it for Cognac In France, too.
> > I could still recommend you the best and most reknowned tea house in
> > Paris, France : The Mariage Freres Tea house, by which you can order tea
> > online at www.mariagefreres.com . They do also have many shops in japan.
> > It maybe a good choice to get their tea list
> > vincent
>
> Hi Vincent, The site only seems to work in French & Japanese.
> --
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> England
>
>
>


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www.lepalisdesthes.com has a good selection of greens as well as scented
teas.
joanne
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>
> "vincent" > wrote in message
>
> > > Can someone recommand some good tea houses for grenn tea?
>
> > I could still recommend you the best and most reknowned tea house in
> > Paris, France : The Mariage Freres Tea house, by which you can order tea
> > online at www.mariagefreres.com .
>
> Il y a quoi comme thes verts chez Mariage Freres ? A part le truc qui me
> sert de pot-pourri (si ca sent bon !)...le Marco Polo, je crois. Enfin
bon,
> je ne vais pas discuter des gouts et des couleurs. Mais c'est des
marchands
> de the "noir", et la personne en cherche du "vert".
>
> (Mariage Freres is specialised in black teas, in flavored blends, they
have
> little to nothing to propose in green tea)
>
> > They do also have many shops in japan.
>
> Carrefour aussi.
>
> Kuri
>


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Robert Schneider wrote:
> Yes, sounds interesting. Unfortunately it is not in English.
>
> Is it really like you said that the best tea is for export? That means
> also that your Cognac in France is worse than the one we can get here in
> Austria from you? This is not what I thought. I guess the products for
> export is bulk good, and I suppose that there is better quality to find
> - just to know where is the problem. But maybe you're right.
>
>
> Robert
of that i don't really personally know.
I read it in some book about tea ( yes, written by a french guy)
who said it, but I on't really know. As far as I can imagine ,
maybe the poorest of the tea producing countries try to export it
and thus get more money for it as in their own countries.
Maybe so is it with us for the Cognac ;-), but i' m not that sure

--
Vincent

Joanne Rosen wrote:
> www.lepalisdesthes.com has a good selection of greens as well as scented
> teas.
> joanne

http://www.palaisdesthes.com/fre/index.cgi

small typo, not a matter of interest, as I wrote before

> Il y a quoi comme thes verts chez Mariage Freres ? A part le truc qui me
> sert de pot-pourri (si ca sent bon !)...le Marco Polo, je crois. Enfin bon,
> je ne vais pas discuter des gouts et des couleurs. Mais c'est des marchands
> de the "noir", et la personne en cherche du "vert".
>
Me sentant un peu blessé dans mon honneur, je sors ma carte de thés
de chez mariage freres, scrute d un air inquiet...
Me serais je trompé, mon Chun Mee serait il un thé noir?
ca serait assez troublant pour ma conception du thé.
Ouf, sauvé, en cherchant un peu, heureusement, je trouve
deux pages de thé "vert"...L honneur est sauf.
est ce une raison pour s'enflammer?
pas trop a mon sens.......



"not a matter of interest."

/12/04

> Robert Schneider wrote:
>> Yes, sounds interesting. Unfortunately it is not in English.
>>
>> Is it really like you said that the best tea is for export? That means
>> also that your Cognac in France is worse than the one we can get here in
>> Austria from you? This is not what I thought. I guess the products for
>> export is bulk good, and I suppose that there is better quality to find
>> - just to know where is the problem. But maybe you're right.
>>
>>
>> Robert
> of that i don't really personally know.
> I read it in some book about tea ( yes, written by a french guy)
> who said it, but I on't really know. As far as I can imagine ,
> maybe the poorest of the tea producing countries try to export it
> and thus get more money for it as in their own countries.
> Maybe so is it with us for the Cognac ;-), but i' m not that sure
>
> --
> Vincent

Guys, I hasten to add that with tea it might be quite different. China folk
correct me freely. The best teas -- those that could sell for thousands of
dollars per kilo at auction -- are consumed traditionally in China and never
reach Europe of the Americas. That it takes a good lot of time for the
angels to sip their alotted share of an excellent cognac, whereas the teas
in question need to be consumed fresh might have something to do with this.

Michael

"vincent" > wrote in message

> > Il y a quoi comme thes verts chez Mariage Freres ? A part le truc qui me
> > sert de pot-pourri (si ca sent bon !)...le Marco Polo, je crois. Enfin
bon,
> > je ne vais pas discuter des gouts et des couleurs. Mais c'est des
marchands
> > de the "noir", et la personne en cherche du "vert".
> >
> Me sentant un peu blessé dans mon honneur,

Non, non, faut pas...Je suis un peu directe (les smileys j'sais pas faire)
et j'ai reagi vivement.
Je ne peux pas promettre que je ne referai plus. C'est plus fort que moi. Tu
a ravive quelques mauvais souvenir. J'ai longtemps cherche des thes verts en
France, et suite a ca, je ne mets plus les pieds chez les frangins Mariage.
Au mieux, ils n'en ont pas, au pire, ils te refilent des rossignols tres
chers. Au depart, je n'y connaissais rien. Depuis j'ai un peu vecu en Asie
et il y a 2 ou 3 thes verts que je reconnais un peu a force. Et donc les
vendeurs qui racontent des foutaises (mais non, il n'est pas vieux, les
"sencha" c'est toujours jaune comme ca...pour faire du "macha" suffit de les
moudre), je ne supporte plus. Une fois dans une boutique, ca passe. Mais ca
s'est reproduit dans des villes differentes. Dommage pour eux, parce que
meme s'il n'y a pas le the que je cherchais au depart, je ne ressors jamais
de chez un marchand aimable et honnete sans rien acheter.
Tu as quand meme un grand choix de petites boutiques sympas sur Paris. Bon,
je ne traduis pas ca, il parait que les conseils de shopping agacent les
lecteurs...c'est sur que c'est frustrant si c'est des magasins pas du tout
sur leur secteur.

(nothing interesting)

Kuri

Hi Michael,

> Guys, I hasten to add that with tea it might be quite different.

Especially with green tea. Some of the black teas for the European market
are produced in plantations that where created by foreigners for foreign
market, so I wouldn't be surprised to hear certain teas are easier to find
in London than in shops of the country of origine.

>China folk
> correct me freely. The best teas -- those that could sell for thousands
of
> dollars per kilo at auction -- are consumed traditionally in China and
never
> reach Europe of the Americas.

That's not only for exceptional teas.
Japanese teas of the quality they sell in a supermarket in Osaka is hard to
find in Paris. A few years ago, I have visited dozens of tea shops,
department stores, Asian groceries...I was ready to pay nearly any price.
And the best I've got were packs of tea of 2 years before and the cheapest
brand of macha available here. All that 5 times the price of the same
product fresh of the year in Japan. Not better in London. Not much better in
Hawaii (where there are so many Japanese residents and tourists). The only
place where I have seen a fair choice of Japanese teas was Taipei. I suspect
there are damned good shops in Seoul, but they are hidden in dark back
streets, as nobody wants to be seen buying Japanese products.

I don't think the "freshness" is the actual problem, even living oysters
and fragile fruits are exported from one continent to another. "New tea" can
be mailed to anywhere on the planet in 24 to 48 hours. And if there was a
demand somewhere, fresh tea leaves could be exported with vegetables.
It seems that even if there is a large expat/ethnic community, that's not
enough to make higher end products profitable. Lack of local demand...

Tastes of people in different countries are still very different. I have
heard so many tourists getting out of the best tea shops in Kyoto saying :
"Yuuuck, I'd never thought a green tea could be that bad. No sugar, no milk
! The bags of decaf grapefruit green tea we have at home are so
much better.". Someday, I have to try grapefruit tea...

Kuri

In article >,
Robert Schneider > wrote:

>I'm living in Austria/Europe. Of course it would be the cheapest to order
>somewhere in Austria. But maybe there are some better shops somewhere
>else. Are there? It would be also very interesting to find a shop in
>japan, india or china. I could imagine to get a very high quality. But it
>might be to expensive or the transport takes to long. Has someone
>experiences with such remote shops?

You don't say where in Austria you are. If in Vienna, you should have
a look at Artee in Siebensterngasse (Spittelberg area). They also do
mail order. (Best to call them on the phone and ask for recommendations,
their website http://www.artee.at/ is neither up to date nor complete.)

Otherwise you might as well order from Gray&Seddon
http://www.gray-seddon-tea.com/
(Expect to pay 20% customs and tax on every other shipment on average.)

Sophie Frisch

Looks interesting. Thanks.

I think I will try to order at artee.
Is the other shop an special recommendation (ein Geheimtip)?

Robert





Am 14 Feb 2004 20:04:03 +0100 hat Sophie Frisch
> geschrieben:

> In article >,
> Robert Schneider > wrote:
>
>> I'm living in Austria/Europe. Of course it would be the cheapest to
>> order
>> somewhere in Austria. But maybe there are some better shops somewhere
>> else. Are there? It would be also very interesting to find a shop in
>> japan, india or china. I could imagine to get a very high quality. But
>> it
>> might be to expensive or the transport takes to long. Has someone
>> experiences with such remote shops?
>
> You don't say where in Austria you are. If in Vienna, you should have
> a look at Artee in Siebensterngasse (Spittelberg area). They also do
> mail order. (Best to call them on the phone and ask for recommendations,
> their website http://www.artee.at/ is neither up to date nor complete.)
>
> Otherwise you might as well order from Gray&Seddon
> http://www.gray-seddon-tea.com/
> (Expect to pay 20% customs and tax on every other shipment on average.)
>
> Sophie Frisch



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In article >,
Robert Schneider > wrote:

>I think I will try to order at artee.

They have some very good chinese tea (also japanese, but they
specialise in chinese tea I think). For the better grades of
tea it pays to ask how much you have to take to get a factory
sealed pack, sometimes it's only 150g, often 300g, and you get
a really fresh tasting product. (You didn't say if you wanted
chinese green tea or japanese, if japanese, there are other
avenues you could pursue).

>Is the other shop an special recommendation (ein Geheimtip)?

Not a secret, but nevertheless a recommendation. They have excellent
tea at reasonable prices. Very good matcha too. If I had to choose
just one vendor to get all kinds of tea from, I would choose them
(not the least because of their practice of packaging even small
amounts of tea, 50g or 100g, in vacuum-sealed foil pouches).

Sophie Frisch

Robert Schneider > wrote in message >...

> Can someone recommand some good tea houses for grenn tea? I'm searching
> for a good quality where I can be sure that the tea tastes well. Up to now
> I have bougth so often tea that seemed to be old or it was a bad quality
> (even though in the shop they told me that it is high quality tea, of
> course). Now I don't want to become dissappointed anymore. Therefore my
> question.

Since you specifically ask for the name of an outlet I suggest you try
Nothing But Tea (www.nbtea.co.uk).

They are building a good collection of China greens and whites most of
which are imported by airfreight direct from China (including
seventeen exotic display teas), and lots from other places (greens
from Assam, Darjeeling, and Japan). These are tip top fresh teas. I
also know that the folk at Nothing But Tea will replace any
consignment that is not up to scratch - so no more disappointments.
And prices are reasonable. Postage within UK is free. Postage to
Austria is at actual cost. No VAT on tea and no import duty within EU.

Yes, I must declare a fatherly interest. We run a family business
(Teacraft Ltd is headed up by my wife Helga and myself) and my
daughter Chrissie learned her tea with Teacraft and now runs Nothing
But Tea Ltd.

But Robert, a tip for finding a good tea outlet. Speak with them
about tea, question them about tea. Write, email, telephone and fax
them about tea. If you get the feeling that you know more than they do
- then try another outlet. A good supplier knows he has something to
teach and plenty to learn, and always is trying to do both.

Nigel at Teacraft

For the best quality Green or Oolong tea try King's tea range from Ten
ren. Know as Cha wong, true tea connoisseurs in the far east swear by
it. Once you try this, anything else is going to be second best. Its
very hard to get hold and quite expensive but if you appriciate quality
then its well worth it. I get mine from http://www.exotictea.co.uk and
they deliver to europe.

For the best quality Green or Oolong tea try King's tea range from Ten
ren. Know as Cha wong, true tea connoisseurs in the far east swear by
it. Once you try this, anything else is going to be second best. Its
very hard to get hold and quite expensive but if you appriciate quality
then its well worth it. I get mine from http://www.exotictea.co.uk and
they deliver to europe.

>The other interesting thing was a conversation last week with a Chinese
>exchange student who told me that guywans are old-fashioned in China,
>but used in some restaurants.
>

Interesting that that's the case in China. Here in NYC, you can't find a
gaiwan at the Chinese dept. stores, only at the specialty tea places. And one
of the proprietors of Tea Gallery (they carry lovely tea, zishu and porcelain
teaware) was grumbling that she doesn't get many Chinese people in there (and
they're in Chinatown).

Joe.

>The other interesting thing was a conversation last week with a Chinese
>exchange student who told me that guywans are old-fashioned in China,
>but used in some restaurants.
>

Interesting that that's the case in China. Here in NYC, you can't find a
gaiwan at the Chinese dept. stores, only at the specialty tea places. And one
of the proprietors of Tea Gallery (they carry lovely tea, zishu and porcelain
teaware) was grumbling that she doesn't get many Chinese people in there (and
they're in Chinatown).

Joe.

Joseph 12/21/04


>> The other interesting thing was a conversation last week with a Chinese
>> exchange student who told me that guywans are old-fashioned in China,
>> but used in some restaurants.
>>
>
> Interesting that that's the case in China. Here in NYC, you can't find a
> gaiwan at the Chinese dept. stores, only at the specialty tea places. And one
> of the proprietors of Tea Gallery (they carry lovely tea, zishu and porcelain
> teaware) was grumbling that she doesn't get many Chinese people in there (and
> they're in Chinatown).
>
> Joe.


Joe,

I used to get them in the Chinese department store at the mouth of Mott
Street -- if Canal is the tail end -- but I think they closed down their
operation. I thought Kam Man and Great Wall both sold them. Maybe they're
becoming a thing of the past. So, what's the next big thing? Coffee? Very
rare beans! Only 1200 kilos produced. $40. an ounce. Get on board before the
train leaves the station.

Michael

Michael

>I used to get them in the Chinese department store at the mouth of Mott
>Street -- if Canal is the tail end -- but I think they closed down their
>operation. I thought Kam Man and Great Wall both sold them.

I was actively looking last week. Great Wall and Pearl River have none, unless
you count the tiny gaiwans included as parts of those cellophane-wrapped tea
sets. Kam Man has only one kind, heavy enough to use as a doorstop. I don't
know the Mott St. store you speak of.

There's a little grocery-***-ceramics shop on Lafayette just above Canal that
has $4.50 gaiwans, a little nicer than Kam Man's. Everyday stuff, but it would
work. I'll probably buy one of those, and a fancy one from TG for when I have,
you know, illustrious tea persons over. :-)

Joe

I just found this place on the way to big apple.
I really like it there.


>There's a little grocery-***-ceramics shop on Lafayette just above Canal that
>has $4.50 gaiwans, a little nicer than Kam Man's.


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[Michael]
Tom, what tea do you generally drink at Big Apple? Can you concentrate on
the tea with those huge stone ladies peering down at you? The owner told me
they were there when the tea shop moved in, and the cost of removal was
prohibitive -- as good a reason to have them there as any, I guess.

[Tom]
> I just found this place on the way to big apple.
> I really like it there.
>
[Joe]
>> There's a little grocery-***-ceramics shop on Lafayette just above Canal that
>> has $4.50 gaiwans, a little nicer than Kam Man's.

I usually have the server select an oolong to serve me gung-fu style. While I
do this for myself at home, some of the staff do it so gracefully, their hands
seem to be dancing.

Decor wise, I only have eyes for those ornate wood chairs. While I don't find
them to be particularly comfortable, I am semi-obsessed with the look & feel of
them.

I've also boght some of their tea for home (especially ornimental jasmines) but
some of their prices seem high in this area such as the CNNP pu-erh.

What do you drink there?


>Subject: Where can I order good green tea?
>From: Michael Plant
>Date: 12/22/2004 5:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>[Michael]
>Tom, what tea do you generally drink at Big Apple? Can you concentrate on
>the tea with those huge stone ladies peering down at you? The owner told me
>they were there when the tea shop moved in, and the cost of removal was
>prohibitive -- as good a reason to have them there as any, I guess.
>
>[Tom]
>> I just found this place on the way to big apple.
>> I really like it there.
>>
>[Joe]
>>> There's a little grocery-***-ceramics shop on Lafayette just above Canal
>that
>>> has $4.50 gaiwans, a little nicer than Kam Man's.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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12/22/04


> I usually have the server select an oolong to serve me gung-fu style. While I
> do this for myself at home, some of the staff do it so gracefully, their hands
> seem to be dancing.

I notice lately that the server is a young lady; the guys are absent. It's
nice to watch other people do it. Have you visited The Tea Gallery? It's a
cut above.
>
> Decor wise, I only have eyes for those ornate wood chairs. While I don't find
> them to be particularly comfortable, I am semi-obsessed with the look & feel
> of them.

May we use the word "uncomfortable"? While you're sitting in those obsessed
wooden chairs, you need to let your eyes roam up to the ceiling, suspended
from which are plastic leaves and flowers of a garishness quite in keeping
with the statuary. I kind of like the whole thing myself.
>
> I've also bought some of their tea for
>home (especially ornimental jasmines)
> but some of their prices seem high in
>this area such as the CNNP pu-erh.

Well, high for the area, but low for the quality -- at best, that is. I've
bought wonderful Wulong from them, but it seems to be missing from the list
these days.
>
> What do you drink there?

Oolong, depending on what my pocketbook will bear. I shy away from their
greens since their storage methods are not of the best. Hope they get some
of that Wu Long before long.

snip

Michael

12/22/04


> I usually have the server select an oolong to serve me gung-fu style. While I
> do this for myself at home, some of the staff do it so gracefully, their hands
> seem to be dancing.

I notice lately that the server is a young lady; the guys are absent. It's
nice to watch other people do it. Have you visited The Tea Gallery? It's a
cut above.
>
> Decor wise, I only have eyes for those ornate wood chairs. While I don't find
> them to be particularly comfortable, I am semi-obsessed with the look & feel
> of them.

May we use the word "uncomfortable"? While you're sitting in those obsessed
wooden chairs, you need to let your eyes roam up to the ceiling, suspended
from which are plastic leaves and flowers of a garishness quite in keeping
with the statuary. I kind of like the whole thing myself.
>
> I've also bought some of their tea for
>home (especially ornimental jasmines)
> but some of their prices seem high in
>this area such as the CNNP pu-erh.

Well, high for the area, but low for the quality -- at best, that is. I've
bought wonderful Wulong from them, but it seems to be missing from the list
these days.
>
> What do you drink there?

Oolong, depending on what my pocketbook will bear. I shy away from their
greens since their storage methods are not of the best. Hope they get some
of that Wu Long before long.

snip

Michael

In my Chinatown they're located in the grocery stores in the
kitchenware aisle. I'm in a store yesterday looking at what I thought
was a light color brown decorative ornate Yixing teapot and trying to
figure out how to get the lid off and saw it was sealed with a white
bead looked at the display again and noticed it was made of
gingerbread. I was fooled for a good five minutes.

Jim

Rebecca Ore wrote:
> In article >,
> (Joseph Kubera) wrote:
>
> > >The other interesting thing was a conversation last week with a
Chinese
> > >exchange student who told me that guywans are old-fashioned in
China,
> > >but used in some restaurants.
> > >
> >
> > Interesting that that's the case in China. Here in NYC, you can't
find a
> > gaiwan at the Chinese dept. stores, only at the specialty tea
places. And one
> > of the proprietors of Tea Gallery (they carry lovely tea, zishu
and porcelain
> > teaware) was grumbling that she doesn't get many Chinese people in
there (and
> > they're in Chinatown).
> >
>
> We have them in Chinese grocery stores in Philadelphia, but they tend
to
> be a seasonal item -- as if the potteries in China made them at
certain
> times of the year. They're not as common as the regular tea pots and

> the covered mugs. I've also seen a bunch of Yixing pots at different

> times in Philly, and the exchange student said that those are
considered
> to have health-giving properties. And Ti Kuan Gying (I'm not
checking a
> reference right now--Iron Goddess of Mercy) oolong is really strong,
she
> said.

> I'm in a store yesterday looking at what I thought
>was a light color brown decorative ornate Yixing teapot and trying to
>figure out how to get the lid off and saw it was sealed with a white
>bead looked at the display again and noticed it was made of
>gingerbread. I was fooled for a good five minutes.

Wow, you could have your tea and cakes all at once! No muss, no fuss.

Don't tell them over at Teamail, they'll be asking where to buy them.

Joe

Joseph 12/22/04


>> I'm in a store yesterday looking at what I thought
>> was a light color brown decorative ornate Yixing teapot and trying to
>> figure out how to get the lid off and saw it was sealed with a white
>> bead looked at the display again and noticed it was made of
>> gingerbread. I was fooled for a good five minutes.
>
> Wow, you could have your tea and cakes all at once! No muss, no fuss.
>
> Don't tell them over at Teamail, they'll be asking where to buy them.
>
> Joe


Joe,

What's "Teamail"?

Michael

Joseph 12/22/04


>> I'm in a store yesterday looking at what I thought
>> was a light color brown decorative ornate Yixing teapot and trying to
>> figure out how to get the lid off and saw it was sealed with a white
>> bead looked at the display again and noticed it was made of
>> gingerbread. I was fooled for a good five minutes.
>
> Wow, you could have your tea and cakes all at once! No muss, no fuss.
>
> Don't tell them over at Teamail, they'll be asking where to buy them.
>
> Joe


Joe,

What's "Teamail"?

Michael

Here is the brewing instuctions for my West Lake Dragon Well from
Chinatown:

1. Put the Tea-Things in the hot water. After bearing flushing with
heating water, then put in a proper amount of tea leaves and infuse
2. The tea leaves can be infused several times

I guess I get the idea. After decades of searching this is my anytime
green tea with no hint of astringency or having to pretend you enjoy
the taste of dried, roasted, fried green tea when the lymph nodes in
your neck ache. It has an understated taste so you don't feel you've
been on the mower for hours. The leaf is various shades of green
almost blade like grass. This one comes in a hermetically sealed
apothecary style glass jar. Other teas by other exporters are showing
up packaged this way. The best commercial packaging I've seen. These
jars would be $10 in the stores and they're selling it with great tea
for less than that. This is the first time I've ever seen a commercial
recommendation for more than one infusion. The quidessential leaf
style for gongfu and gaiwan. The leaf doesn't get messy when infused.

Jim

Rebecca Ore wrote:
....Scrooge was here...
> Latest tea tasting was a head to head Specialteas
> Dragonwell West lake against the medium priced Goldfish brand
Dragonwell
> (didn't buy the $30 for 125 grams version). I can't really tell the
> difference other than the Specialteas Dragonwell has a much stronger
dry
> leaf fragrance.

>What's "Teamail"?
>
>Michael

Don't play dumb with me, Michael. I've seen enough of your bundt cakes and
doilies for you not to know.

Joe

No.
Where is it.
I didn't know about Big Apple untill you started writing about it.


>Have you visited The Tea Gallery? It's a
>cut above.


--Tom
-oo-
""\o~
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"Homo sum, humani nil a me alienum puto."
Terrance

Joseph Kubera wrote:
>> I'm in a store yesterday looking at what I thought was a
>> light color brown decorative ornate Yixing teapot and trying
>> to figure out how to get the lid off and saw it was sealed
>> with a white bead looked at the display again and noticed it
>> was made of gingerbread.
>
> Don't tell them over at Teamail, they'll be asking where to
> buy them.

"Does it come with gingerbread cups and saucers too?"

No worry about Jim ratting out on us. His posts could never get
past the capricious censor-squad at Teamail.

--crymad

Joseph Kubera wrote:
>> What's "Teamail"?
>>
>> Michael
>
> Don't play dumb with me, Michael. I've seen enough of your
> bundt cakes and doilies for you not to know.

I've heard Michael gives good bundt. This is just what I've
heard. Those folks in Teamail are an insular bunch.

--crymad

Joseph Kubera wrote:
>> What's "Teamail"?
>>
>> Michael
>
> Don't play dumb with me, Michael. I've seen enough of your
> bundt cakes and doilies for you not to know.

I've heard Michael gives good bundt. This is just what I've
heard. Those folks in Teamail are an insular bunch.

--crymad

Joseph 12/22/04


>> What's "Teamail"?
>>
>> Michael
>
> Don't play dumb with me, Michael. I've seen enough of your bundt cakes and
> doilies for you not to know.
>
> Joe

Speaking of doilies, when I was in Holland the first time -- forty years
ago, it was -- I saw some ladies producing lace using a series of spindles
on the ground which they twirled over one another in rhythmic sequences thus
producing the designs in the lace. It was extraordinary. There is something
to be said for doilies. The only offensive thing about a doily is the word.
That's why I dislike G&S so much, I suppose. As for bundt cakes, my sole
attempt was a complete disaster. That's why we have women, right? BTW, we're
talking about workers' and children's rights over there, which is a good
place to do it because there are so many vendors listening in.

So, my doily collection has not gone unnoticed, eh?

Michael