Sushi (alt.food.sushi) For talking sushi. (Sashimi, wasabi, miso soup, and other elements of the sushi experience are valid topics.) Sushi is a broad topic; discussions range from preparation to methods of eating to favorite kinds to good restaurants.

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>>> BTW does your city have a fish market? I'm asking because I know
>>> that it is an east-coastal town.

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>> There are many fish markets in the area, but not all have sushi
>> quality fish available. There are a handful of Asian markets
>> that have that, which is good. But I also catch my own fish on
>> occassion (not this season though).

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> I wonder what is different between ordinary fish markets and
> Asian ones in terms of dealing with fish alive into dead. How about
> smell in the majority of markets? Somewhat malodorous?


Better handling to avoid cross contamination. Regular super markets
have some bad smelling fish cases. Downright repugnant.

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>>> masayuki wrote:
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>>>> "Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> BTW does your city have a fish market? I'm asking because I know
>>>> that it is an east-coastal town.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are many fish markets in the area, but not all have sushi
>>> quality fish available. There are a handful of Asian markets
>>> that have that, which is good. But I also catch my own fish on
>>> occassion (not this season though).

>>
>>
>> I wonder what is different between ordinary fish markets and
>> Asian ones in terms of dealing with fish alive into dead. How about
>> smell in the majority of markets? Somewhat malodorous?

>
> Better handling to avoid cross contamination. Regular super markets
> have some bad smelling fish cases. Downright repugnant.


The first time would be the most difficult. To those who hate sushi
before eating it, such ubiquitous bad smell would be sort of something
which gives traumas. You can easily find fish next poultry at markets
in UK. Is there also such a problem practice in USA?

Masayuki

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masayuki wrote:

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> The first time would be the most difficult. To those who hate sushi
> before eating it, such ubiquitous bad smell would be sort of something
> which gives traumas. You can easily find fish next poultry at markets
> in UK. Is there also such a problem practice in USA?


From what I've seen in most super markets, all meats are kept in seperate
sections. Typically fish is kept in it's own place seperately from poulty
and other meats. So I don't think it's a problem.

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"Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
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> masayuki wrote:
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>> The first time would be the most difficult. To those who hate sushi
>> before eating it, such ubiquitous bad smell would be sort of something
>> which gives traumas. You can easily find fish next poultry at markets
>> in UK. Is there also such a problem practice in USA?

>
> From what I've seen in most super markets, all meats are kept in seperate
> sections. Typically fish is kept in it's own place seperately from poulty
> and other meats. So I don't think it's a problem.


Unlike UK, the USA would demonstrate that it is careful about sanitation
in dealing with meats. I'm relieved to hear that.

Masayuki
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masayuki wrote:
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>> masayuki wrote:
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>>> The first time would be the most difficult. To those who hate sushi
>>> before eating it, such ubiquitous bad smell would be sort of something
>>> which gives traumas. You can easily find fish next poultry at markets
>>> in UK. Is there also such a problem practice in USA?

>>
>>
>> From what I've seen in most super markets, all meats are kept in seperate
>> sections. Typically fish is kept in it's own place seperately from
>> poulty
>> and other meats. So I don't think it's a problem.

>
>
> Unlike UK, the USA would demonstrate that it is careful about sanitation
> in dealing with meats. I'm relieved to hear that.


In some cases yes, but not all super markets follow proper handling.

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>>> masayuki wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The first time would be the most difficult. To those who hate sushi
>>>> before eating it, such ubiquitous bad smell would be sort of something
>>>> which gives traumas. You can easily find fish next poultry at markets
>>>> in UK. Is there also such a problem practice in USA?
>>>
>>>
>>> From what I've seen in most super markets, all meats are kept in seperate
>>> sections. Typically fish is kept in it's own place seperately from
>>> poulty
>>> and other meats. So I don't think it's a problem.

>>
>>
>> Unlike UK, the USA would demonstrate that it is careful about sanitation
>> in dealing with meats. I'm relieved to hear that.

>
> In some cases yes, but not all super markets follow proper handling.


Not perfect even in Sushi Heaven like Japan.

Masayuki

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In article >, masayuki >
wrote:

> > From what I've seen in most super markets, all meats are kept in seperate
> > sections. Typically fish is kept in it's own place seperately from poulty
> > and other meats. So I don't think it's a problem.

>
> Unlike UK, the USA would demonstrate that it is careful about sanitation
> in dealing with meats. I'm relieved to hear that.


Don't believe it. The USA is dominated by financial gain, we have
plenty of filth in the food chain. For instance, some have said the
amount of mad-cow desease in the US beef market could not possibly be
estimated because anyone who knows wouldn't tell.

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Gerry wrote:

> In article >, masayuki >
> wrote:
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>>>From what I've seen in most super markets, all meats are kept in seperate
>>>sections. Typically fish is kept in it's own place seperately from poulty
>>>and other meats. So I don't think it's a problem.
>>>

>>Unlike UK, the USA would demonstrate that it is careful about sanitation
>>in dealing with meats. I'm relieved to hear that.
>>

>
> Don't believe it. The USA is dominated by financial gain, we have
> plenty of filth in the food chain. For instance, some have said the
> amount of mad-cow desease in the US beef market could not possibly be
> estimated because anyone who knows wouldn't tell.


Yeah, the beef industry would sue ya! We hear more about contamination
at processing plants than at individual stores.

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In article >, Dan Logcher
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> > Don't believe it. The USA is dominated by financial gain, we have
> > plenty of filth in the food chain. For instance, some have said the
> > amount of mad-cow desease in the US beef market could not possibly be
> > estimated because anyone who knows wouldn't tell.

>
> Yeah, the beef industry would sue ya! We hear more about contamination
> at processing plants than at individual stores.


Recently read a short piece in Harper's that indicated that some vastly
greater amoung of bad-com disease had entered the food chain as a
result of feeding such cows to chickens (apparently legal), and later
feeding chicken parts back to the cows (also apparently legal).

Anymore it seems that eating our own poop would be less unhealthy than
eating most beef OR chicken, not to mention pigs...

Any recipes? :-)

--
"A Dictionary of Japanese Food, Ingredients & Culture" by Richard Hosking
(Tuttle, '97). All the hints one might need for exploring Japanese food.

"The Sake Handbook" by John Gaunter (Tuttle, '02). An excellent intro and
reference to sake.
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masayuki wrote:

>
> The first time would be the most difficult. To those who hate sushi
> before eating it, such ubiquitous bad smell would be sort of something
> which gives traumas. You can easily find fish next poultry at markets
> in UK. Is there also such a problem practice in USA?


From what I've seen in most super markets, all meats are kept in seperate
sections. Typically fish is kept in it's own place seperately from poulty
and other meats. So I don't think it's a problem.

--
Dan



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>> "Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
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>>> masayuki wrote:
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>>>> "Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> BTW does your city have a fish market? I'm asking because I know
>>>> that it is an east-coastal town.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are many fish markets in the area, but not all have sushi
>>> quality fish available. There are a handful of Asian markets
>>> that have that, which is good. But I also catch my own fish on
>>> occassion (not this season though).

>>
>>
>> I wonder what is different between ordinary fish markets and
>> Asian ones in terms of dealing with fish alive into dead. How about
>> smell in the majority of markets? Somewhat malodorous?

>
> Better handling to avoid cross contamination. Regular super markets
> have some bad smelling fish cases. Downright repugnant.


The first time would be the most difficult. To those who hate sushi
before eating it, such ubiquitous bad smell would be sort of something
which gives traumas. You can easily find fish next poultry at markets
in UK. Is there also such a problem practice in USA?

Masayuki

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> Dan


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