Okay - here's a question:
Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
dry measure or a liquid measure?
Or does it matter overmuch?
Edrena

The Joneses wrote:
> Okay - here's a question:
> Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
> anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
> for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
> dry measure or a liquid measure?
> Or does it matter overmuch?
> Edrena
>
>
Personally I just use whatever measuring cup is handy as I don't believe
the difference is that great. YMMV

George

The Joneses wrote:
> Okay - here's a question:
> Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
> anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
> for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
> dry measure or a liquid measure?
> Or does it matter overmuch?
> Edrena
>
>
I thought the reason for using a dry measure was so that you could use a
knife to make sure that it was full. The liquid , so that you could
hold it up to see the meniscus and judge it ( the cup's) fullness. Both
should measure exactly the same amount for 1 cup.
Ellen

The Joneses wrote:
> Okay - here's a question:
> Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
> anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
> for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
> dry measure or a liquid measure?
> Or does it matter overmuch?
> Edrena
>
>


I use the 4-cup pyrex measuring cup (liquid measure) but I fill it to
the top instead of to the 4 cup line.

(I've never heard of a "dry cup" measure, or did you mentally switch to
pints and quarts?) If a recipe calls for a pint of berries, I use about
2 1/2 cups -- which come to think of it is probably about a 2-cup pyrex
measure filled to the top. So maybe I'm mentally converting from 4 cups
to a liquid quart and then measuring out a dry quart...

Best regards,
Bob

In article >,
The Joneses > wrote:

> Okay - here's a question:
> Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
> anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
> for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
> dry measure or a liquid measure?
> Or does it matter overmuch?
> Edrena


I use a liquid measure and tamp with a potato masher.
--
-Barb
<http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 7-27-06, For The King and His
Princess
"If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> The Joneses > wrote:
>
> > Okay - here's a question:
> > Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
> > anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
> > for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
> > dry measure or a liquid measure?
> > Or does it matter overmuch?
> > Edrena
>
>
> I use a liquid measure and tamp with a potato masher.
> --
> -Barb
> <http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 7-27-06, For The King and His
> Princess
> "If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

I'm still confused - but that's my natural blond state. What's the
difference between a "liquid" measuring cup and a "dry" measuring cup?
Isn't a cup a cup?
We're not converting here between a liquid ounce (volume) and a dry
ounce (weight), are we?

Sure, a measuring cup full of whole large strawberries would take up
more air space between them, compared to tiny blueberries that fir
closer together, or if either were sliced or chopped. And sifted flour
has more air and hence less weight (volume amount) than flour tamped
down. But I never heard of using different measuring cups.

" wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >,
> > The Joneses > wrote:
> >
> > > Okay - here's a question:
> > > Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
> > > anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
> > > for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
> > > dry measure or a liquid measure?
> > > Or does it matter overmuch?
> > > Edrena
> >
> >
> > I use a liquid measure and tamp with a potato masher.
> > --
> > -Barb
> > <http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 7-27-06, For The King and His
> > Princess
> > "If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."
>
> I'm still confused - but that's my natural blond state. What's the
> difference between a "liquid" measuring cup and a "dry" measuring cup?
> Isn't a cup a cup?
> We're not converting here between a liquid ounce (volume) and a dry
> ounce (weight), are we?
>
> Sure, a measuring cup full of whole large strawberries would take up
> more air space between them, compared to tiny blueberries that fir
> closer together, or if either were sliced or chopped. And sifted flour
> has more air and hence less weight (volume amount) than flour tamped
> down. But I never heard of using different measuring cups.

I got two different kinds in my Texas kitchen - the liquid kind, usually
glass or clear plastic pourable, for milk or honey, and the dry kind, usually
tin or opaque plastic with a flat top, for measuring flour & sugar. I did
notice when measuring out umpty cups of sugar into my own 8 cup liquid
measuring cup (it's easier to pour all at once) that the cup measures, for
sugar at least, were very close.
I just wondered. All this cookin' is a bit subjective anyhow. I've rarely
had a recipe make exactly what it said it would. So many variables.
We been getting rained on. Actual water from the sky for days. Lovely!
Edrena, getting blonder every year.

wrote:

> I'm still confused - but that's my natural blond state. What's the
> difference between a "liquid" measuring cup and a "dry" measuring cup?

A cup for measuring liquids is plastic, or glass.... clear... so you can
look through it and see the meniscus (the bottom of the "u"). Cups for
measuring liquids generally have a spout of some sort. The measuring
line is below the spout.

A cup for measuring dry items can be just about anything, but doesn't
need to be clear. The measuring line is all the way at the top, when
the measure is filled. This is so you can take a knife or spatula and
level off the item being measured.

> Isn't a cup a cup?

A door isn't a door when it's ajar.

B/

Brian Mailman wrote:

> wrote:
>
> > Isn't a cup a cup?
>
> A door isn't a door when it's ajar.
> B/

I'm still working on why we "can" in glass jars and have for decades. Some
do use cans, but most home folks use jars. We all preserve, but why not
jarring?
Edrena

Oh pshaw, on Mon 31 Jul 2006 09:42:35p, The Joneses meant to say...

> Brian Mailman wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Isn't a cup a cup?
>>
>> A door isn't a door when it's ajar.
>> B/
>
> I'm still working on why we "can" in glass jars and have for decades. Some
> do use cans, but most home folks use jars. We all preserve, but why not
> jarring?
> Edrena

Then there's the term, "canning jars". Also jarring. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

Don't stop posting, a good laugh breaks up my day
nicely

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Oh pshaw, on Mon 31 Jul 2006 09:42:35p, The Joneses meant to say...
>
> > Brian Mailman wrote:
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Isn't a cup a cup?
> >>
> >> A door isn't a door when it's ajar.
> >> B/
> >
> > I'm still working on why we "can" in glass jars and have for decades. Some
> > do use cans, but most home folks use jars. We all preserve, but why not
> > jarring?
> > Edrena
>
> Then there's the term, "canning jars". Also jarring. :-)
>
It's still all stuff and nonsense. A cup is a cup, whether
transparent, glass, or plastic.

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
28.19...
> Oh pshaw, on Mon 31 Jul 2006 09:42:35p, The Joneses meant to say...
>
> > Brian Mailman wrote:
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Isn't a cup a cup?
> >>
> >> A door isn't a door when it's ajar.
> >> B/
> >
> > I'm still working on why we "can" in glass jars and have for decades.
Some
> > do use cans, but most home folks use jars. We all preserve, but why not
> > jarring?
> > Edrena
>
> Then there's the term, "canning jars". Also jarring. :-)

....and I've heard some folks call it 'bottling'

Kathi


>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
> __________________________________________________
>
> Don't stop posting, a good laugh breaks up my day
> nicely
>

Living 40 years in Europe, I've learned to appreciate their use of weight
measure; certainly easier than cups etc. when dealing with things like
zuccini's, watermelons, cherries, and peaches. I suspect though that 10 cups
of shredded zuccini is about as easy as 1 kilo; just get accustom yourself
to the simplest solution.
Jack

"ellen wickberg" > wrote in message
news:yNozg.280167$iF6.203782@pd7tw2no...
> The Joneses wrote:
> > Okay - here's a question:
> > Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
> > anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
> > for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
> > dry measure or a liquid measure?
> > Or does it matter overmuch?
> > Edrena
> >
> >
> I thought the reason for using a dry measure was so that you could use a
> knife to make sure that it was full. The liquid , so that you could
> hold it up to see the meniscus and judge it ( the cup's) fullness. Both
> should measure exactly the same amount for 1 cup.
> Ellen

wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>Oh pshaw, on Mon 31 Jul 2006 09:42:35p, The Joneses meant to say...
>>
>>
>>>Brian Mailman wrote:
>>>
>>>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Isn't a cup a cup?
>>>>
>>>>A door isn't a door when it's ajar.
>>>>B/
>>>
>>>I'm still working on why we "can" in glass jars and have for decades. Some
>>>do use cans, but most home folks use jars. We all preserve, but why not
>>>jarring?
>>>Edrena
>>
>>Then there's the term, "canning jars". Also jarring. :-)
>>
>
> It's still all stuff and nonsense. A cup is a cup, whether
> transparent, glass, or plastic.
>
the volume of a cup is indeed the same. How you use the cup to measure
that volume is not as was just explained.
Ellen

Kathi Jones wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
> 28.19...
>
>>Oh pshaw, on Mon 31 Jul 2006 09:42:35p, The Joneses meant to say...
>>
>>
>>>Brian Mailman wrote:
>>>
>>>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Isn't a cup a cup?
>>>>
>>>>A door isn't a door when it's ajar.
>>>>B/
>>>
>>>I'm still working on why we "can" in glass jars and have for decades.
>
> Some
>
>>>do use cans, but most home folks use jars. We all preserve, but why not
>>>jarring?
>>>Edrena
>>
>>Then there's the term, "canning jars". Also jarring. :-)
>
>
> ...and I've heard some folks call it 'bottling'
>
> Kathi

Brits and Ozzies us bottling. Don't worry about it, Modern English is
funny anyway. I haven't seen a canning set up in years that actually
uses cans. Home canning with me has always meant jars.

George

ellen wickberg wrote:

> wrote:

>> It's still all stuff and nonsense. A cup is a cup, whether
>> transparent, glass, or plastic.
>>
> the volume of a cup is indeed the same. How you use the cup to measure
> that volume is not as was just explained.

??? How not?

B/

Jack Kennedy wrote:

> Living 40 years in Europe, I've learned to appreciate their use of weight
> measure; certainly easier than cups etc. when dealing with things like
> zuccini's, watermelons, cherries, and peaches. I suspect though that 10 cups
> of shredded zuccini is about as easy as 1 kilo; just get accustom yourself
> to the simplest solution.
> Jack
>
> "ellen wickberg" > wrote in message
> news:yNozg.280167$iF6.203782@pd7tw2no...
> > The Joneses wrote:
> > > Okay - here's a question:
> > > Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
> > > anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
> > > for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
> > > dry measure or a liquid measure?
> > > Or does it matter overmuch?
> > > Edrena
> > >
> > >
> > I thought the reason for using a dry measure was so that you could use a
> > knife to make sure that it was full. The liquid , so that you could
> > hold it up to see the meniscus and judge it ( the cup's) fullness. Both
> > should measure exactly the same amount for 1 cup.
> > Ellen

Bravo! I lived six years in Germany - getting used to metrics is not hard.
Edrena

Brian Mailman wrote:

> ellen wickberg wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>
>>> It's still all stuff and nonsense. A cup is a cup, whether
>>> transparent, glass, or plastic.
>>>
>> the volume of a cup is indeed the same. How you use the cup to measure
>> that volume is not as was just explained.
>
> ??? How not?

Nemmind. I didn't see the missing comma after "not" up there.

B/

The Joneses wrote:
> Jack Kennedy wrote:
>
>
>>Living 40 years in Europe, I've learned to appreciate their use of weight
>>measure; certainly easier than cups etc. when dealing with things like
>>zuccini's, watermelons, cherries, and peaches. I suspect though that 10 cups
>>of shredded zuccini is about as easy as 1 kilo; just get accustom yourself
>>to the simplest solution.
>> Jack
>>
>>"ellen wickberg" > wrote in message
>>news:yNozg.280167$iF6.203782@pd7tw2no...
>>
>>>The Joneses wrote:
>>>
>>>>Okay - here's a question:
>>>>Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
>>>>anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
>>>>for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
>>>>dry measure or a liquid measure?
>>>>Or does it matter overmuch?
>>>>Edrena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I thought the reason for using a dry measure was so that you could use a
>>>knife to make sure that it was full. The liquid , so that you could
>>>hold it up to see the meniscus and judge it ( the cup's) fullness. Both
>>>should measure exactly the same amount for 1 cup.
>>>Ellen
>
>
> Bravo! I lived six years in Germany - getting used to metrics is not hard.
> Edrena
>
The US adopted the metric system many years ago. Problem is no one ever
tried to enforce it. Metric is much easier than American Standard
because everything is divisible by ten. I learned it like Edrena,
military service and then working foreigh for a number of years. Folks
around here get nervous when I start talking about centimeters,
millimeters, and kilometers. Some old GI's understand "klicks."

George

"The Joneses" > wrote in message
...
> Brian Mailman wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Isn't a cup a cup?
>>
>> A door isn't a door when it's ajar.
>> B/
>
> I'm still working on why we "can" in glass jars and have for decades. Some
> do use cans, but most home folks use jars. We all preserve, but why not
> jarring?
> Edrena
>
"Jarring" means something else, but then so does "can".

As the woman said to the houseguest who asked wahtever did they do wit all
the vegetables from their garden" "We eat what we can, and what we can't we
can."

Anny

Brian Mailman wrote:
> ellen wickberg wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>
>
>>> It's still all stuff and nonsense. A cup is a cup, whether
>>> transparent, glass, or plastic.
>>>
>> the volume of a cup is indeed the same. How you use the cup to
>> measure that volume is not as was just explained.
>
>
> ??? How not?
>
> B/
In most cases, it is extremely difficult to fill a dry measure cup with
liquid to its brim. And if you could, it would still be slightly lower
in the centre.
Ellen

The Joneses wrote:
> Jack Kennedy wrote:
>
>
>>Living 40 years in Europe, I've learned to appreciate their use of weight
>>measure; certainly easier than cups etc. when dealing with things like
>>zuccini's, watermelons, cherries, and peaches. I suspect though that 10 cups
>>of shredded zuccini is about as easy as 1 kilo; just get accustom yourself
>>to the simplest solution.
>> Jack
>>
>>"ellen wickberg" > wrote in message
>>news:yNozg.280167$iF6.203782@pd7tw2no...
>>
>>>The Joneses wrote:
>>>
>>>>Okay - here's a question:
>>>>Given that when a recipe calls for "mashed or finely chopped
>>>>anythingies" I'd measure with a liquid cup. But when the recipe calls
>>>>for 4 cups of anyberries or coarsely chopped doodads, would you use a
>>>>dry measure or a liquid measure?
>>>>Or does it matter overmuch?
>>>>Edrena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I thought the reason for using a dry measure was so that you could use a
>>>knife to make sure that it was full. The liquid , so that you could
>>>hold it up to see the meniscus and judge it ( the cup's) fullness. Both
>>>should measure exactly the same amount for 1 cup.
>>>Ellen
>
>
> Bravo! I lived six years in Germany - getting used to metrics is not hard.
> Edrena
>
>
>
Metrics wouldn't make a difference in this case, because liquids and non
liquids behave differently when you scoop or pour them into any
measuring container. If you mean weight measures, I certainly agree and
prefer using them myself.
Ellen

Brian Mailman wrote:
> Brian Mailman wrote:
>
>> ellen wickberg wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> It's still all stuff and nonsense. A cup is a cup, whether
>>>> transparent, glass, or plastic.
>>>>
>>> the volume of a cup is indeed the same. How you use the cup to
>>> measure that volume is not as was just explained.
>>
>>
>> ??? How not?
>
>
> Nemmind. I didn't see the missing comma after "not" up there.
>
> B/
must have been one that got swept over the edge with the dry measure cup
measure.
Ellen

In article <J3Qzg.303994$Mn5.285333@pd7tw3no>,
ellen wickberg > wrote:

> Brian Mailman wrote:
> > Brian Mailman wrote:
> >
> >> ellen wickberg wrote:
> >>
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>> It's still all stuff and nonsense. A cup is a cup, whether
> >>>> transparent, glass, or plastic.
> >>>>
> >>> the volume of a cup is indeed the same. How you use the cup to
> >>> measure that volume is not as was just explained.
> >>
> >>
> >> ??? How not?
> >
> >
> > Nemmind. I didn't see the missing comma after "not" up there.
> >
> > B/
> must have been one that got swept over the edge with the dry measure cup
> measure.
> Ellen


LOL!
--
-Barb
<http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 7-27-06, For The King and His
Princess
"If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

ellen wickberg wrote:

> Brian Mailman wrote:
>> Brian Mailman wrote:
>>
>>> ellen wickberg wrote:
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> It's still all stuff and nonsense. A cup is a cup, whether
>>>>> transparent, glass, or plastic.
>>>>>
>>>> the volume of a cup is indeed the same. How you use the cup to
>>>> measure that volume is not as was just explained.
>>>
>>>
>>> ??? How not?
>>
>>
>> Nemmind. I didn't see the missing comma after "not" up there.

> must have been one that got swept over the edge with the dry measure cup
> measure.

Is THAT what the cat was chewing on....