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Hi all - regular lurker here with a question.
Last year took I took a dive into making various pickles with mostly success. Dilled Carrots, Olive Oil Pickles, and a few quick pickles were a great hit. The Half-Sours that I tried tasted ok, but were mushy. Most are still sitting in the fridge waiting some kind of use as a relish or chutney, where the texture won't be noticed. Found out about Pickle Crisp in this newsgroup, and want to give it a try. I'm not sure on the use for fermented pickles however - should I add the Pickle Crisp before fermentation or after? It's just another salt, so I think it shouldn't affect the fermentation too much. The package doesn't help much. Most of the recipes I'm using are from The Joy of Pickling by Linda Ziedrich Looking for suggestions from the more experienced folks here. The garden just gave us about 5 lbs of cukes - kids can only eat soo many fresh. There's a few quarts worth ready to go... Thanks, Mark |
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On 6/18/2013 3:49 PM, Mark Curry wrote:
Hi all - regular lurker here with a question. Last year took I took a dive into making various pickles with mostly success. Dilled Carrots, Olive Oil Pickles, and a few quick pickles were a great hit. The Half-Sours that I tried tasted ok, but were mushy. Most are still sitting in the fridge waiting some kind of use as a relish or chutney, where the texture won't be noticed. Found out about Pickle Crisp in this newsgroup, and want to give it a try. I'm not sure on the use for fermented pickles however - should I add the Pickle Crisp before fermentation or after? It's just another salt, so I think it shouldn't affect the fermentation too much. The package doesn't help much. Most of the recipes I'm using are from The Joy of Pickling by Linda Ziedrich Looking for suggestions from the more experienced folks here. The garden just gave us about 5 lbs of cukes - kids can only eat soo many fresh. There's a few quarts worth ready to go... Thanks, Mark On 6/18/2013 3:49 PM, Mark Curry wrote: Hi all - regular lurker here with a question. Last year took I took a dive into making various pickles with mostly success. Dilled Carrots, Olive Oil Pickles, and a few quick pickles were a great hit. The Half-Sours that I tried tasted ok, but were mushy. Most are still sitting in the fridge waiting some kind of use as a relish or chutney, where the texture won't be noticed. Fermented pickles don't do well at all with Pickle Crisp Mark, PC is primarily for making fresh pickles and, even then, they need to sit in a dark place for a few weeks in order to be crisp. Found out about Pickle Crisp in this newsgroup, and want to give it a try. I'm not sure on the use for fermented pickles however - should I add the Pickle Crisp before fermentation or after? It's just another salt, so I think it shouldn't affect the fermentation too much. The package doesn't help much. Most of the recipes I'm using are from The Joy of Pickling by Linda Ziedrich Pickle Crisp is calcium chloride and, if I remember correctly, is made by treating limestone, in the instance I'm aware of it was Texas caliche rock, of which we Texans have a lot of. Primary use for calcium chloride is for road "salt." A road salt that doesn't rust your car out. Jarden (Ball) dropped the PC for awhile but brought it back in a more efficient form, larger pieces. Looking for suggestions from the more experienced folks here. The garden just gave us about 5 lbs of cukes - kids can only eat soo many fresh. There's a few quarts worth ready to go... Thanks, Mark Best advice I can give you for fermented pickles is to keep them in ice water, very near freezing for a lengthy time and then ferment them. Lots of recipes for fermented pickles on the web and how to keep them crisp. Hope this helps. George |
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George Shirley wrote: On 6/18/2013 3:49 PM, Mark Curry wrote: Hi all - regular lurker here with a question. Last year took I took a dive into making various pickles with mostly success. Dilled Carrots, Olive Oil Pickles, and a few quick pickles were a great hit. The Half-Sours that I tried tasted ok, but were mushy. Most are still sitting in the fridge waiting some kind of use as a relish or chutney, where the texture won't be noticed. Fermented pickles don't do well at all with Pickle Crisp Mark, PC is primarily for making fresh pickles and, even then, they need to sit in a dark place for a few weeks in order to be crisp. snip Best advice I can give you for fermented pickles is to keep them in ice water, very near freezing for a lengthy time and then ferment them. Lots of recipes for fermented pickles on the web and how to keep them crisp. Hope this helps. Thanks - this sort of advice is exactly what I was looking for. Putting them up tonight, will let everyone know in a few weeks how things turn out. --Mark |
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On 6/18/2013 3:49 PM, Mark Curry wrote:
Hi all - regular lurker here with a question. Last year took I took a dive into making various pickles with mostly success. Dilled Carrots, Olive Oil Pickles, and a few quick pickles were a great hit. The Half-Sours that I tried tasted ok, but were mushy. Most are still sitting in the fridge waiting some kind of use as a relish or chutney, where the texture won't be noticed. Fermented pickles don't do well at all with Pickle Crisp Mark, PC is primarily for making fresh pickles and, even then, they need to sit in a dark place for a few weeks in order to be crisp. Found out about Pickle Crisp in this newsgroup, and want to give it a try. I'm not sure on the use for fermented pickles however - should I add the Pickle Crisp before fermentation or after? It's just another salt, so I think it shouldn't affect the fermentation too much. The package doesn't help much. Most of the recipes I'm using are from The Joy of Pickling by Linda Ziedrich Pickle Crisp is calcium chloride and, if I remember correctly, is made by treating limestone, in the instance I'm aware of it was Texas caliche rock, of which we Texans have a lot of. Primary use for calcium chloride is for road "salt." A road salt that doesn't rust your car out. Jarden (Ball) dropped the PC for awhile but brought it back in a more efficient form, larger pieces. Looking for suggestions from the more experienced folks here. The garden just gave us about 5 lbs of cukes - kids can only eat soo many fresh. There's a few quarts worth ready to go... Thanks, Mark Best advice I can give you for fermented pickles is to keep them in ice water, very near freezing for a lengthy time and then ferment them. Lots of recipes for fermented pickles on the web and how to keep them crisp. Hope this helps. George I thought I had sent this earlier but never saw it show up. |
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On 06/23/13 3:31 PM, sometime in the recent past George Shirley posted this:
On 6/18/2013 3:49 PM, Mark Curry wrote: Hi all - regular lurker here with a question. Last year took I took a dive into making various pickles with mostly success. Dilled Carrots, Olive Oil Pickles, and a few quick pickles were a great hit. The Half-Sours that I tried tasted ok, but were mushy. Most are still sitting in the fridge waiting some kind of use as a relish or chutney, where the texture won't be noticed. Fermented pickles don't do well at all with Pickle Crisp Mark, PC is primarily for making fresh pickles and, even then, they need to sit in a dark place for a few weeks in order to be crisp. Found out about Pickle Crisp in this newsgroup, and want to give it a try. I'm not sure on the use for fermented pickles however - should I add the Pickle Crisp before fermentation or after? It's just another salt, so I think it shouldn't affect the fermentation too much. The package doesn't help much. Most of the recipes I'm using are from The Joy of Pickling by Linda Ziedrich Pickle Crisp is calcium chloride and, if I remember correctly, is made by treating limestone, in the instance I'm aware of it was Texas caliche rock, of which we Texans have a lot of. Primary use for calcium chloride is for road "salt." A road salt that doesn't rust your car out. George, I think your comment that calcium chloride doesn't rust your car out is in error. Here in the northeast they have been using it as a liquid slurry to treat the roads before snow or icing can be packed down by traffic. The result is a lot of premature break-lines rusting out and other forms of accelerated rusting even greater than NaCl - regular salt. Just saying ![]() Jarden (Ball) dropped the PC for awhile but brought it back in a more efficient form, larger pieces. Looking for suggestions from the more experienced folks here. The garden just gave us about 5 lbs of cukes - kids can only eat soo many fresh. There's a few quarts worth ready to go... Thanks, Mark Best advice I can give you for fermented pickles is to keep them in ice water, very near freezing for a lengthy time and then ferment them. Lots of recipes for fermented pickles on the web and how to keep them crisp. Hope this helps. George I thought I had sent this earlier but never saw it show up. -- Wilson 44.69, -67.3 |
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On 6/26/2013 3:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 06/23/13 3:31 PM, sometime in the recent past George Shirley posted this: On 6/18/2013 3:49 PM, Mark Curry wrote: Hi all - regular lurker here with a question. Last year took I took a dive into making various pickles with mostly success. Dilled Carrots, Olive Oil Pickles, and a few quick pickles were a great hit. The Half-Sours that I tried tasted ok, but were mushy. Most are still sitting in the fridge waiting some kind of use as a relish or chutney, where the texture won't be noticed. Fermented pickles don't do well at all with Pickle Crisp Mark, PC is primarily for making fresh pickles and, even then, they need to sit in a dark place for a few weeks in order to be crisp. Found out about Pickle Crisp in this newsgroup, and want to give it a try. I'm not sure on the use for fermented pickles however - should I add the Pickle Crisp before fermentation or after? It's just another salt, so I think it shouldn't affect the fermentation too much. The package doesn't help much. Most of the recipes I'm using are from The Joy of Pickling by Linda Ziedrich Pickle Crisp is calcium chloride and, if I remember correctly, is made by treating limestone, in the instance I'm aware of it was Texas caliche rock, of which we Texans have a lot of. Primary use for calcium chloride is for road "salt." A road salt that doesn't rust your car out. George, I think your comment that calcium chloride doesn't rust your car out is in error. Here in the northeast they have been using it as a liquid slurry to treat the roads before snow or icing can be packed down by traffic. The result is a lot of premature break-lines rusting out and other forms of accelerated rusting even greater than NaCl - regular salt. Just saying ![]() Jarden (Ball) dropped the PC for awhile but brought it back in a more efficient form, larger pieces. Looking for suggestions from the more experienced folks here. The garden just gave us about 5 lbs of cukes - kids can only eat soo many fresh. There's a few quarts worth ready to go... Thanks, Mark Best advice I can give you for fermented pickles is to keep them in ice water, very near freezing for a lengthy time and then ferment them. Lots of recipes for fermented pickles on the web and how to keep them crisp. Hope this helps. George I thought I had sent this earlier but never saw it show up. You could be right Wilson, I did some work for a client in Louisiana a number of years ago who made the "road salt" and I got the info from them. Fortunately, this far south we've had no need for salting the roads. Did experience that when I was in the Navy fifty-five years ago and was stationed in the NE US. Sure rusted out my 1953 Ford flat head eight cylinder. Haven't researched it since. Lots of caliche in Texas, most goes for gravel the rest for road salt and Pickle Crisp I guess. |
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On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 at 4:49:07 PM UTC-4, Mark Curry wrote:
Hi all - regular lurker here with a question. Last year took I took a dive into making various pickles with mostly success. Dilled Carrots, Olive Oil Pickles, and a few quick pickles were a great hit. The Half-Sours that I tried tasted ok, but were mushy. Most are still sitting in the fridge waiting some kind of use as a relish or chutney, where the texture won't be noticed. Found out about Pickle Crisp in this newsgroup, and want to give it a try. I'm not sure on the use for fermented pickles however - should I add the Pickle Crisp before fermentation or after? It's just another salt, so I think it shouldn't affect the fermentation too much. The package doesn't help much. Most of the recipes I'm using are from The Joy of Pickling by Linda Ziedrich Looking for suggestions from the more experienced folks here. The garden just gave us about 5 lbs of cukes - kids can only eat soo many fresh. There's a few quarts worth ready to go... Thanks, Mark Hi Mark, My grandmother soaked her cucumbers (and other veg) overnight in a picklecrisp solution (not sure what the ratio was). Then she rinsed them off and put them in fermenting crocks with regular salt, spices, garlic and dill. They came out real crisp and she didn't have to cut the blossom end off either.. |
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notbob wrote:
On 4/22/2019 11:28 AM, wrote: Hi Mark, My grandmother soaked her cucumbers (and other veg) overnight in a picklecrisp solution (not sure what the ratio was). I've never heard of it! As a newbie, here, I need all the info I can get fer this Summer's crop. What is a "picklecrisp solution"? ![]() https://www.freshpreserving.com/ball...1034061VM.html not sure what kathkwilts is referencing if not this. songbird |
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On 4/23/2019 4:08 PM, songbird wrote:
https://www.freshpreserving.com/ball...1034061VM.html not sure what kathkwilts is referencing if not this. Thank for the link, sb. I didn't realize it was a commercial product. I'll check it out. Again, thank you. ![]() nb |
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On Wednesday, 24 April 2019 10:16:55 UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 4/23/2019 4:08 PM, songbird wrote: https://www.freshpreserving.com/ball...1034061VM.html not sure what kathkwilts is referencing if not this. Thank for the link, sb. I didn't realize it was a commercial product. I'll check it out. Again, thank you. ![]() nb Pickle Crisp is a commercial name for what is also a generic product, calcium chloride (food grade.) Full info is he https://www.healthycanning.com/calcium-chloride/ |
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On 4/24/2019 8:26 AM, Randal Oulton wrote:
Pickle Crisp is a commercial name for what is also a generic product, calcium chloride (food grade.) Full info is he https://www.healthycanning.com/calcium-chloride/ Thnx, Randal. I didn't know there was a generic brand, but that's cuz I've yet to research it. Again, thnx fer doing the work for me. ![]() nb |
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Randal Oulton wrote:
.... Pickle Crisp is a commercial name for what is also a generic product, calcium chloride (food grade.) Full info is he https://www.healthycanning.com/calcium-chloride/ it would seem rather strange to me to call a calcium chloride solution by the name pickle crisp if i were actually meaning to use the generic chemical food grade version. but that's just me. ![]() hope the pickles work out. we usually put up about 100 quarts a year of simple dill pickles. my brother said that he wants more dill in them. no problem. i love dill. actually part of the reason some of it may be lacking is that i sometimes eat it as i'm making pickles. oops... we'll put in a few more plants this year - they're not hard to grow. songbird |
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On 4/25/2019 5:28 AM, songbird wrote:
it would seem rather strange to me to call a calcium chloride solution by the name pickle crisp if i were actually meaning to use the generic chemical food grade version. Using a name of "Pickle Crisp" is a no-brainer fer someone. I mean, why NOT re-name an existing item for profit. It's the American Way. ![]() nb |
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