In article >, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote:

> I have to make 2 13x9" pans of brownies Saturday. (As Barb says---boys
> and
> girls! One with nuts, one without)
>
> The recipe I use is basically Barb's, minus the baking soda.

Pssst -- that recipe doesn't have any baking soda in it. It does use
baking powder, though.
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Melba's Jammin' at wrote on 8/10/05 9:56 PM:

> In article >, Sheryl Rosen
> > wrote:
>
>> I have to make 2 13x9" pans of brownies Saturday. (As Barb says---boys
>> and
>> girls! One with nuts, one without)
>>
>> The recipe I use is basically Barb's, minus the baking soda.
>
> Pssst -- that recipe doesn't have any baking soda in it. It does use
> baking powder, though.
I know....I always, always always type the wrong word. I was even thinking
powder, yet, my fingers banged out "soda". Mental block....

Anyway, I forgot to add it once, and I liked the result. Very fudgey!
So I omit it.

They came out awesome.
And the Red Sox just had a 9 run 8th inning!
My boys are on ESPN tonight!
My team is winning, they are 5.5 games ahead of the 2nd place team, there
are 3 Jews on the field right now wearing red socks (Daddy would be SO
proud!) my brownies came out awesome...My Life is GOOD!!!!
---
Love like you've never been hurt
Live like there's no tomorrow
And dance like there's nobody watching

In article >, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote:

> Anyway, I forgot to add it once, and I liked the result. Very fudgey!
> So I omit it.

Describe fudgy for me. (This ought to be interesting). I went to a
Tastefully Simple party once and they had these fudgy brownies and I
thought they were icky and underbaked - the consistency of
thick-enough-to-hold-its-shape batter - like raw. Is that what you're
talking about?
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couple pictures added to the 7/29 note on 8/5)

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:30:43 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, I forgot to add it once, and I liked the result. Very fudgey!
>> So I omit it.
>
>Describe fudgy for me. (This ought to be interesting). I went to a
>Tastefully Simple party once and they had these fudgy brownies and I
>thought they were icky and underbaked - the consistency of
>thick-enough-to-hold-its-shape batter - like raw. Is that what you're
>talking about?
>--
>-Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 8/3/05 New York-Vermont tab (a
>couple pictures added to the 7/29 note on 8/5)

I too prefer fudgy brownies to cakey ones. Fudgy is just what it
sounds like -- with a chewy consistency (like fudge, duh!) rather than
a crumbly one. Your recipe tends to be on the cakey side of the
brownie spectrum, IMO&E, which is groovalacious if you like cakey
brownies. And yours <grovel> is the only, the ONLY, cakey brownie
recipe I like :-)

How'd I do?

Now stop bugging Margaret and making her sound like a lush, she's
merely a woman of grace and style :-)

TammyM

In article >, (TammyM)
wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:30:43 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >, Sheryl Rosen
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Anyway, I forgot to add it once, and I liked the result. Very fudgey!
> >> So I omit it.
> >
> >Describe fudgy for me. (This ought to be interesting). I went to a
> >Tastefully Simple party once and they had these fudgy brownies and I
> >thought they were icky and underbaked - the consistency of
> >thick-enough-to-hold-its-shape batter - like raw. Is that what you're
> >talking about?
> >--
> >-Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 8/3/05 New York-Vermont tab (a
> >couple pictures added to the 7/29 note on 8/5)
>
> I too prefer fudgy brownies to cakey ones. Fudgy is just what it
> sounds like -- with a chewy consistency (like fudge, duh!) rather than
> a crumbly one. Your recipe tends to be on the cakey side of the
> brownie spectrum, IMO&E, which is groovalacious if you like cakey
> brownies. And yours <grovel> is the only, the ONLY, cakey brownie
> recipe I like :-)
>
> How'd I do?

OK. I guess. Maybe. Sort of. OK, nice grovel! That's funny. I
don't think of my brownies as cakey at all! At my reunion in VT our
hostess had brownies -- now, THOSE were cakey -- like about 2" high!
Mine own brownies are maybe 3/4 - 1" high. If I've got a fresh can of
baking powder, I cut back on the amount some. Baking time enters in,
too.
>
> Now stop bugging Margaret and making her sound like a lush, she's
> merely a woman of grace and style :-)

<cough> I calls 'em the way I sees 'em. You're right on the grace and
style part, though. ME? Bug Margaret? Nevah! I know upon which side
of the bread the chicken liver is schmeared.

> TammyM
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couple pictures added to the 7/29 note on 8/5)

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> <cough> I calls 'em the way I sees 'em. You're right on the grace and
> style part, though. ME? Bug Margaret? Nevah! I know upon which side
> of the bread the chicken liver is schmeared.

Well, that's too easy... chicken liver is never schmeared on sliced
bread... even a goy knows where on a sliced roll to schmear. But do
you know which is the correct side to schmear on matzoh?

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
>><cough> I calls 'em the way I sees 'em. You're right on the grace and
>>style part, though. ME? Bug Margaret? Nevah! I know upon which side
>>of the bread the chicken liver is schmeared.
>
>
> Well, that's too easy... chicken liver is never schmeared on sliced
> bread... even a goy knows where on a sliced roll to schmear. But do
> you know which is the correct side to schmear on matzoh?
>
> Sheldon
>


It's a trick question.
Matzoh doesn't schmear; it doesn't matter what you try to schmear it on.

Best regards, ;-)
Bob

In article .com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >
> > <cough> I calls 'em the way I sees 'em. You're right on the grace and
> > style part, though. ME? Bug Margaret? Nevah! I know upon which side
> > of the bread the chicken liver is schmeared.
>
> Well, that's too easy... chicken liver is never schmeared on sliced
> bread... even a goy knows where on a sliced roll to schmear. But do
> you know which is the correct side to schmear on matzoh?
>
> Sheldon
>

Easy. The top side.
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couple pictures added to the 7/29 note on 8/5)

Melba's Jammin' at wrote on 8/12/05 1:51 PM:

>>> Describe fudgy for me. (This ought to be interesting). I went to a
>>> Tastefully Simple party once and they had these fudgy brownies and I
>>> thought they were icky and underbaked - the consistency of
>>> thick-enough-to-hold-its-shape batter - like raw. Is that what you're
>>> talking about?


No, never underbaked.
Just...not fluffy.
Dense. Not quite as dense as flourless chocolate cake, but approaching
that. Actually, the standard Betty Crocker brownie mix makes a good texture
for brownies (when baked until the toothpick comes out with fudgey crumbs,
but not wet, as your recipe states), but the chocolate flavor is lacking, to
me, compared to home-made. Hence, my quest to melt chocoloate and butter for
brownies.

The perfect brownie to me has a top crust that is lighter in color than
inside, and it sort of flakes off when you bite into it-your tooth sinks
into deep brown, sticky but structured mass of cookie/cake/chewy goodness.
And it's chewy. Not like a hard caramel or like stale fudge--but like---hmmm
let me think....like....there's nothing I can think of that's like that
texture.

The only way I think you can understand is to make your recipe--one batch
with baking powder and one without. Of course, bake them for exactly the
same amount of time, in exactly the same spot in the oven. Then when cool,
put them side by side and see and taste the difference.

The only change I made to your recipe ever (before the margarine/butter
thing the other day) was to eliminate the leavening. So side by side, one
would be cakey (like yours) and one pan would be chewy (Like mine).

I know what you mean about icky and underbaked. I hate chocolate chip
cookies that are "soft and moist", also oatmeal cookies. They just taste
underbaked to me. Cookies should bend, then break. Or just break with hard
crumbs. But never should a cookie break with soft crumbs, if it does, it's
underbaked.


then Tammy wrote:
>>
>> I too prefer fudgy brownies to cakey ones. Fudgy is just what it
>> sounds like -- with a chewy consistency (like fudge, duh!) rather than
>> a crumbly one. Your recipe tends to be on the cakey side of the
>> brownie spectrum, IMO&E, which is groovalacious if you like cakey
>> brownies. And yours <grovel> is the only, the ONLY, cakey brownie
>> recipe I like :-)
>>
>> How'd I do?

--
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Live like there's no tomorrow
And dance like there's nobody watching

TammyM wrote:
>
>
> Now stop bugging Margaret and making her sound like a lush, she's
> merely a woman of grace and style :-)
>
> TammyM
\

Thank you, Tammy. I'll drink to that!!!!!

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:13:06 -0400, Margaret Suran
> wrote:

>
>
>TammyM wrote:
>>
>>
>> Now stop bugging Margaret and making her sound like a lush, she's
>> merely a woman of grace and style :-)
>>
>> TammyM
>\
>
>Thank you, Tammy. I'll drink to that!!!!!
>
You're welcome, m'lady :-) I'll join you with a pert gin and tonic,
hold the tonic :-)))))))

TammyM

"TammyM" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:13:06 -0400, Margaret Suran
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>TammyM wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Now stop bugging Margaret and making her sound like a lush, she's
>>> merely a woman of grace and style :-)
>>>
>>> TammyM
>>\
>>
>>Thank you, Tammy. I'll drink to that!!!!!
>>
> You're welcome, m'lady :-) I'll join you with a pert gin and tonic,
> hold the tonic :-)))))))
>
> TammyM
==============

Ya know... if you had a little sour mix I'm thinking a Tom Collins or Salty
Dog would be really tasty today...

Syssi
(who thinks Gin should never be served by itself - it likes company - it
told me so)

TammyM wrote:

>>
>
> You're welcome, m'lady :-) I'll join you with a pert gin and tonic,
> hold the tonic :-)))))))
>
> TammyM

You should join Barbara with the Gin and Tonic. That is her favorite
drink now, after only liking Manhattans before. )

Prosit! M

TammyM wrote:

> You're welcome, m'lady :-) I'll join you with a pert gin and tonic,
> hold the tonic :-)))))))
>
> TammyM

Oh yeah.. G&T's are my favorite also. But have you tried a good Mojito?
I have discovered them also and love the crisp brightness of them.
Goomba

Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' at wrote on 8/10/05 9:56 PM:
>
>
>>In article >, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have to make 2 13x9" pans of brownies Saturday. (As Barb says---boys
>>>and
>>>girls! One with nuts, one without)
>>>
>>>The recipe I use is basically Barb's, minus the baking soda.
>>
>>Pssst -- that recipe doesn't have any baking soda in it. It does use
>>baking powder, though.
>
> I know....I always, always always type the wrong word. I was even thinking
> powder, yet, my fingers banged out "soda". Mental block....
>
> Anyway, I forgot to add it once, and I liked the result. Very fudgey!
> So I omit it.
>
> They came out awesome.
> And the Red Sox just had a 9 run 8th inning!
> My boys are on ESPN tonight!
> My team is winning, they are 5.5 games ahead of the 2nd place team, there
> are 3 Jews on the field right now wearing red socks (Daddy would be SO
> proud!) my brownies came out awesome...My Life is GOOD!!!!
> ---
> Love like you've never been hurt
> Live like there's no tomorrow
> And dance like there's nobody watching
>
Who are the three Jewish Red Sox? I didn't know that they had even
one Jew on their team. ) I asked my friend, David H, but he didn't
know who they are. He will ask in Shul tomorrow night.

The air conditioning in our building is out. It is the second hottest
day of the year and I do not know what to cook. Most likely, I will
only heat up the boiled beef with potatoes and vegetables and ice
coffee and a Baba au Rum for Marcel. I will have a cold sandwich,
bologna on toasted nine grain bread. It is hot in my apartment. I am
having a nice glass of Scotch, with lots and lots of ice.

On Thu 11 Aug 2005 02:30:06p, Margaret Suran wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
>
> Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>> Melba's Jammin' at wrote on 8/10/05 9:56 PM:
>>
>>
>>>In article >, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have to make 2 13x9" pans of brownies Saturday. (As Barb says---boys
>>>>and girls! One with nuts, one without)
>>>>
>>>>The recipe I use is basically Barb's, minus the baking soda.
>>>
>>>Pssst -- that recipe doesn't have any baking soda in it. It does use
>>>baking powder, though.
>>
>> I know....I always, always always type the wrong word. I was even
>> thinking powder, yet, my fingers banged out "soda". Mental block....
>>
>> Anyway, I forgot to add it once, and I liked the result. Very fudgey!
>> So I omit it.
>>
>> They came out awesome.
>> And the Red Sox just had a 9 run 8th inning!
>> My boys are on ESPN tonight!
>> My team is winning, they are 5.5 games ahead of the 2nd place team,
>> there are 3 Jews on the field right now wearing red socks (Daddy would
>> be SO proud!) my brownies came out awesome...My Life is GOOD!!!!
>> ---
>> Love like you've never been hurt
>> Live like there's no tomorrow
>> And dance like there's nobody watching
>>
> Who are the three Jewish Red Sox? I didn't know that they had even
> one Jew on their team. ) I asked my friend, David H, but he didn't
> know who they are. He will ask in Shul tomorrow night.
>
> The air conditioning in our building is out. It is the second hottest
> day of the year and I do not know what to cook. Most likely, I will
> only heat up the boiled beef with potatoes and vegetables and ice
> coffee and a Baba au Rum for Marcel. I will have a cold sandwich,
> bologna on toasted nine grain bread. It is hot in my apartment. I am
> having a nice glass of Scotch, with lots and lots of ice.

Oh, Margaret, I'm so sorry about your air conditioning. I wish I could
send you some nice 77° air from my house! Try your best to stay cool, and
I hope they get it fixed very soon.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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In article >,
Margaret Suran > wrote:

snip
>
> The air conditioning in our building is out. It is the second hottest
> day of the year and I do not know what to cook. Most likely, I will
> only heat up the boiled beef with potatoes and vegetables and ice
> coffee and a Baba au Rum for Marcel. I will have a cold sandwich,
> bologna on toasted nine grain bread. It is hot in my apartment. I am
> having a nice glass of Scotch, with lots and lots of ice.

I wish I could send you (and my mother upstate) some of this 70? air.
Walking has been very nice the last couple of days. Alas, we're
supposed to warm back up tomorrow.

OB Food: Dinner tonight will be grilled sesame chicken wings, rice,
mango relish, and a vegetable to be determined.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:30:06 -0400, Margaret Suran
> connected the dots and wrote:

~The air conditioning in our building is out. It is the second
hottest
~day of the year and I do not know what to cook. Most likely, I will
~only heat up the boiled beef with potatoes and vegetables and ice
~coffee and a Baba au Rum for Marcel. I will have a cold sandwich,
~bologna on toasted nine grain bread. It is hot in my apartment. I
am
~ having a nice glass of Scotch, with lots and lots of ice.

We have no AC ever, just fans. Tonight was tuna on salad with
crackers and toast. DH and DD decided it was ok to heat up the
kitchen. I let them clean up.

Oddly, a hot shower will help you cool off. But icy cold Scotch
probably doesn't hurt. Be careful to have it with a side of water if
you drink it neat--the heat will dehydrate you quickly.

Hugs and a speedy repair,
maxine in ri

Margaret Suran at lid wrote on 8/11/05 5:30 PM:

>>
>> They came out awesome.
>> And the Red Sox just had a 9 run 8th inning!
>> My boys are on ESPN tonight!
>> My team is winning, they are 5.5 games ahead of the 2nd place team, there
>> are 3 Jews on the field right now wearing red socks (Daddy would be SO
>> proud!) my brownies came out awesome...My Life is GOOD!!!!
>> ---
>> Love like you've never been hurt
>> Live like there's no tomorrow
>> And dance like there's nobody watching
>>
> Who are the three Jewish Red Sox? I didn't know that they had even
> one Jew on their team. ) I asked my friend, David H, but he didn't
> know who they are. He will ask in Shul tomorrow night.

Kevin Youkilis
Adam Stern
Gabe Kapler


>
> The air conditioning in our building is out. It is the second hottest
> day of the year and I do not know what to cook. Most likely, I will
> only heat up the boiled beef with potatoes and vegetables and ice
> coffee and a Baba au Rum for Marcel. I will have a cold sandwich,
> bologna on toasted nine grain bread. It is hot in my apartment. I am
> having a nice glass of Scotch, with lots and lots of ice.

--
---
Love like you've never been hurt
Live like there's no tomorrow
And dance like there's nobody watching

In article >, Margaret Suran
> wrote:
(snip)
> The air conditioning in our building is out.

Uffda!

> It is the second hottest day of the year and I do not know what to
> cook.


COOK? I'd be making a reservation! Take care of you.

> Most likely, I will only heat up the boiled beef with potatoes and
> vegetables and ice coffee and a Baba au Rum for Marcel. I will have
> a cold sandwich, bologna on toasted nine grain bread. It is hot in
> my apartment. I am having a nice glass of Scotch, with lots and lots
> of ice.


Right. Are you sure that's not a nice cube of ice with lots and lots of
Scotch?
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couple pictures added to the 7/29 note on 8/5)

Margaret Suran wrote:
>
> The air conditioning in our building is out. It is the second hottest
> day of the year and I do not know what to cook. Most likely, I will
> only heat up the boiled beef with potatoes and vegetables and ice
> coffee and a Baba au Rum for Marcel. I will have a cold sandwich,
> bologna on toasted nine grain bread. It is hot in my apartment.

No A/C sounds like the perfect excuse to go out for Chinese.

> I am having a nice glass of Scotch, with lots and lots of ice.

Wouldn't that be a glass of nice Scotch... ok, a big glass of nice
Scotch.

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:
> Margaret Suran wrote:
>
>>The air conditioning in our building is out. It is the second hottest
>>day of the year and I do not know what to cook. Most likely, I will
>>only heat up the boiled beef with potatoes and vegetables and ice
>>coffee and a Baba au Rum for Marcel. I will have a cold sandwich,
>>bologna on toasted nine grain bread. It is hot in my apartment.
>
>
> No A/C sounds like the perfect excuse to go out for Chinese.
>
>
>>I am having a nice glass of Scotch, with lots and lots of ice.
>
>
> Wouldn't that be a glass of nice Scotch... ok, a big glass of nice
> Scotch.
>
> Sheldon
>

For more years than I want to count, there has not been a really good
Chinese restaurant in my immediate neighborhood. There were so many
when I first moved here in 1977. There was a wonderful little
inexpensive Mama/Papa one right across the street, The Szechuan
Kitchen, but the building was torn down and a high rise was built.
The new rent would have been much too high for the owners of that
place and they moved into another building, into a place that only has
a kitchen and a counter for ordering and paying, where they cook a
limited amount of their most popular dishes for take-out and for
delivery only. I order from them at times, but I really prefer to go
out for dinner.

Shun Lee West, both the regular restaurant and their Dim Sum Cafe are
still my favorites, but they are on the other side of the city. They
are worth the trip, but I rarely go there now.

As for the nice glass of Scotch, everything about it was nice. )

"Margaret Suran" > wrote

> As for the nice glass of Scotch, everything about it was nice. )

All I want to know is ... do you have A/C yet?

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
> "Margaret Suran" > wrote
>
>
>>As for the nice glass of Scotch, everything about it was nice. )
>
>
> All I want to know is ... do you have A/C yet?
>
> nancy
>
>
Thank you, Nancy, yes it came back yesterday around noon time. Since
the building was without any A/C for something like two days, it took
quite a while for the apartment to get comfortably cool. It was so
warm in spite of the A/C, I went to the bridge club and spent the
afternoon there. Marcel and I won about $25.00 (he played and I
kibitzed) and by the time I got home, the place was nice and cool.

Marcel and I had assorted Wuerstel for dinner, Bratwurst, Bauernwurst,
Weisswurst and Knackwurst with a really good potato salad from
Fairway's. We also had fresh corn on the cob and Marcel had a
Millefoglie for dessert from Agata & Valentina, with iced coffee.
There were also crispy crunchy Portuguese rolls with Brie and Italian
Fontina and fresh, ripe figs. Marcel had Cantaloupe instead of the
figs. He had a glass of beer and I had a nice glass of Scotch. )

Keep cool and take care, M