In article . net>,
"Marc" > wrote:

> I don't quite trust Consumers. I work in an industry that they do reviews
> on the equipment and much of their informations, advice and reviews are IMHO
> bogus.

Anyone familiar with statistics and survey methodology would find
Consumer Reports' ratings suspect. They should be a _guide_ to
purchasing and no more. Never consider or exclude a product just
because CR "says so."

sd

One of the problems was that often much of what they reviewed was from the
previous model year and no longer available. They also hardly ever reviewed
the good stuff and never the best stuff.

Marc


"sd" > wrote in message
...
> In article . net>,
> "Marc" > wrote:
>
> > I don't quite trust Consumers. I work in an industry that they do
reviews
> > on the equipment and much of their informations, advice and reviews are
IMHO
> > bogus.
>
> Anyone familiar with statistics and survey methodology would find
> Consumer Reports' ratings suspect. They should be a _guide_ to
> purchasing and no more. Never consider or exclude a product just
> because CR "says so."
>
> sd

Marc N_O-S_P_A_M wrote:
> One of the problems was that often much of what they reviewed was
from the
> previous model year and no longer available. They also hardly ever
reviewed
> the good stuff and never the best stuff.

Why do you care... you initially gave notice that one of your main
criteria is that you "don't want to spend too much"... so don't even
think about top of the line units ("good stuff/best stuff")... you seem
to want it both ways, spend little but get the best. But naturally
you're a fool, because major appliances, especially dishwashers
typically get used very often and can easily last 10-15 years, so the
price paid amortized over their useful life is but pennies a day, so
you may as well have all the bells and whistles, especially since all
operating costs (electric, water, soaps) are essentially the same
regardless of model. The only time I'd recommend buying bottom of the
barrel appliances is if you plan on moving within the next two years,
or you live in a trailer, where the abode depreciates faster than its
contents.

I live in a rent house!!! and appreciate the input but YOU did not read the
post you only reacted which is your way and one of the things we love about
you. I was referring to why I don't believe in Consumers Guide as a
reliable source of information.

Marc

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Marc N_O-S_P_A_M wrote:
> > One of the problems was that often much of what they reviewed was
> from the
> > previous model year and no longer available. They also hardly ever
> reviewed
> > the good stuff and never the best stuff.
>
> Why do you care... you initially gave notice that one of your main
> criteria is that you "don't want to spend too much"... so don't even
> think about top of the line units ("good stuff/best stuff")... you seem
> to want it both ways, spend little but get the best. But naturally
> you're a fool, because major appliances, especially dishwashers
> typically get used very often and can easily last 10-15 years, so the
> price paid amortized over their useful life is but pennies a day, so
> you may as well have all the bells and whistles, especially since all
> operating costs (electric, water, soaps) are essentially the same
> regardless of model. The only time I'd recommend buying bottom of the
> barrel appliances is if you plan on moving within the next two years,
> or you live in a trailer, where the abode depreciates faster than its
> contents.
>

Marc wrote:
> I live in a rent house!!!

Bragging or complaining...

> and appreciate the input but YOU did not read the
> post you only reacted which is your way and one of the things we love
about
> you. I was referring to why I don't believe in Consumers Guide as a
> reliable source of information.

Which is why I began with "WHY THE **** DO YOU CARE". Anything you
write in a previous post becomes part and parcel to any of your
subsequent posts, even in other threads, even years later, so in the
future be verrrry careful not to contradict yourself. And the fact you
omit information from your posts is no ones responsibility but yours,
so shut the **** up about how you live in a rental, you had your chance
to profer that info in your original post.

AND quit top posting, eh... you _NEWBIE_ DOUCHE BAG... Marc is just
another DISHONEST smarmy slime bucket to deal with... he won't last
long.

> "Sheldon" wrote:
> >
> > Marc wrote:
> > > One of the problems was that often much of what they reviewed was
> > from the
> > > previous model year and no longer available. They also hardly
ever
> > reviewed
> > > the good stuff and never the best stuff.
> >
> >
> > Why do you care... you initially gave notice that one of your main
> > criteria is that you "don't want to spend too much"... so don't
even
> > think about top of the line units ("good stuff/best stuff")... you
seem
> > to want it both ways, spend little but get the best. But naturally
> > you're a fool, because major appliances, especially dishwashers
> > typically get used very often and can easily last 10-15 years, so
the
> > price paid amortized over their useful life is but pennies a day,
so
> > you may as well have all the bells and whistles, especially since
all
> > operating costs (electric, water, soaps) are essentially the same
> > regardless of model. The only time I'd recommend buying bottom of
the
> > barrel appliances is if you plan on moving within the next two
years,
> > or you live in a trailer, where the abode depreciates faster than
its
> > contents.
> >

So eloquent. So you have a problem with change? Who said top posting is
wrong. Sheldon grow up. Not once did I contradict myself.

Marc

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Marc wrote:
> > I live in a rent house!!!
>
> Bragging or complaining...
>
> > and appreciate the input but YOU did not read the
> > post you only reacted which is your way and one of the things we love
> about
> > you. I was referring to why I don't believe in Consumers Guide as a
> > reliable source of information.
>
> Which is why I began with "WHY THE **** DO YOU CARE". Anything you
> write in a previous post becomes part and parcel to any of your
> subsequent posts, even in other threads, even years later, so in the
> future be verrrry careful not to contradict yourself. And the fact you
> omit information from your posts is no ones responsibility but yours,
> so shut the **** up about how you live in a rental, you had your chance
> to profer that info in your original post.
>
> AND quit top posting, eh... you _NEWBIE_ DOUCHE BAG... Marc is just
> another DISHONEST smarmy slime bucket to deal with... he won't last
> long.
>
> > "Sheldon" wrote:
> > >
> > > Marc wrote:
> > > > One of the problems was that often much of what they reviewed was
> > > from the
> > > > previous model year and no longer available. They also hardly
> ever
> > > reviewed
> > > > the good stuff and never the best stuff.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why do you care... you initially gave notice that one of your main
> > > criteria is that you "don't want to spend too much"... so don't
> even
> > > think about top of the line units ("good stuff/best stuff")... you
> seem
> > > to want it both ways, spend little but get the best. But naturally
> > > you're a fool, because major appliances, especially dishwashers
> > > typically get used very often and can easily last 10-15 years, so
> the
> > > price paid amortized over their useful life is but pennies a day,
> so
> > > you may as well have all the bells and whistles, especially since
> all
> > > operating costs (electric, water, soaps) are essentially the same
> > > regardless of model. The only time I'd recommend buying bottom of
> the
> > > barrel appliances is if you plan on moving within the next two
> years,
> > > or you live in a trailer, where the abode depreciates faster than
> its
> > > contents.
> > >
>

One time on Usenet, "Marc" > said:

> So eloquent. So you have a problem with change? Who said top posting is
> wrong.

<snip>

Since the beginning of Usenet it's been held that top posting
is bad form. It messes up the flow of the conversation and that's
quite rude. So is not editing your follow-ups...

--
Jani in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"The ships hung in the sky in much the same
way that bricks don't" - D. Adams, HGTTG

On 3 May 2005 10:30:43 -0700, Sheldon wrote:

> AND quit top posting, eh... you _NEWBIE_ DOUCHE BAG... Marc is just
> another DISHONEST smarmy slime bucket to deal with... he won't last
> long.

Hey. I top post often.
Pfffft, to nay sayers.

On 3 May 2005 08:55:25 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Marc N_O-S_P_A_M wrote:
>
> > One of the problems was that often much of what they reviewed was
> > from the previous model year and no longer available. They also hardly ever
> > reviewed the good stuff and never the best stuff.
>
> Why do you care... you initially gave notice that one of your main
> criteria is that you "don't want to spend too much"... so don't even
> think about top of the line units ("good stuff/best stuff")... you seem
> to want it both ways, spend little but get the best. But naturally
> you're a fool, because major appliances, especially dishwashers
> typically get used very often and can easily last 10-15 years, so the
> price paid amortized over their useful life is but pennies a day, so
> you may as well have all the bells and whistles, especially since all
> operating costs (electric, water, soaps) are essentially the same
> regardless of model.

We're starting to remodel our "basement", which leads directly out to
the yard and one of the appliances we're installing is a diswasher.
One of the contenders is an 18 inch Bosch - because we've had a full
sized Bosch in the kitchen for several years and still love it.