I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.

Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.

I also bought a nice bunch of asparagus (hi Dave!) with thicker stalks
than previously available. Also some nice fresh yellow (not crookneck)
squash and zucchini. And a couple of ;arge Russet baking potatoes.

I looked for lamb shanks but they had none. Only some tiny shoulder
chops. I looked for pork "country ribs" and they didn't have any of
those, either. Nor any flank steak. I did get a nice bone-in ribeye
steak and a couple of 2 inch thick petite filets.

The weather is, as usual, up and down in terms of temperatures in March
and it rained most of Februrary. But it's supposed to be sunny all
weekend so I'm thinking grilling. Steak and vegetables.

Jill

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>
> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.

They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
$1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
yoiu.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
> > Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
> > work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
> >
> > Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
> > the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
> > save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
> you.

Texas is a whole 'nother country. Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
at my grocery. Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.

Cindy Hamilton

On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>
>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>
>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>> you.
>
> Texas is a whole 'nother country. Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
> at my grocery. Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb. That's about the
best price I'll find. I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
in stores in this area.

Jill

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>
>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>
>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>> you.
>>
>> Texas is a whole 'nother country. Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>> at my grocery. Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb. That's about the
>best price I'll find. I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
>in stores in this area.
>
>Jill

I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb. OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
dollar a pound now. That price probably won't get better for several
months as the flooding and freezing took out the brassicas in Texas.
Janet US

On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>>
>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>>> you.
>>>
>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country. Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>>> at my grocery. Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb. That's about the
>> best price I'll find. I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
>> in stores in this area.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb. OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
> dollar a pound now. That price probably won't get better for several
> months as the flooding and freezing took out the brassicas in Texas.
> Janet US
>
I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
That's why I buy two of them when I can find them. Yes, the freeze in
Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas. I think
most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.

Jill

On 2021-03-06 9:16 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
>>>>>> closer to
>>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country.Â* Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>>>> at my grocery.Â* Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> Â* The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb.Â* That's about the
>>> best price I'll find.Â* I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
>>> in stores in this area.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
>> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb.Â* OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
>> dollar a pound now.Â* That price probably won't get better for several
>> months as the flooding and freezing took outÂ* the brassicas in Texas.
>> Janet US
>>
> I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
> That's why I buy two of them when I can find them.Â* Yes, the freeze in
> Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas.Â* I think
> most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
>
> Jill
Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
severe frost.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 10:36:44 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-03-06 9:16 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
>>>>>>> closer to
>>>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country.Â* Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>>>>> at my grocery.Â* Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>>>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> Â* The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb.Â* That's about the
>>>> best price I'll find.Â* I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
>>>> in stores in this area.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
>>> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb.Â* OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
>>> dollar a pound now.Â* That price probably won't get better for several
>>> months as the flooding and freezing took outÂ* the brassicas in Texas.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
>> That's why I buy two of them when I can find them.Â* Yes, the freeze in
>> Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas.Â* I think
>> most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
>>
>> Jill
>Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
>was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
>severe frost.

Same with kale. Frost makes it produce sugar as an anti-freeze. It
makes the kale taste better, at least according to old wives.

--
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On 3/6/2021 8:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>
>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>
>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>> you.
>>
>> Texas is a whole 'nother country.Â* Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>> at my grocery.Â* Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> Â* The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb.Â* That's about the
> best price I'll find.Â* I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
> in stores in this area.
>
> Jill

We have the el cheapo point cut at ALDI for $1.99, and flat cut
for $2.99. The point cut ones are almost 50% fat.

--
--Bryan
For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

On 3/6/2021 10:16 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
>>>>>> closer to
>>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country.Â* Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>>>> at my grocery.Â* Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> Â* The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb.Â* That's about the
>>> best price I'll find.Â* I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
>>> in stores in this area.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
>> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb.Â* OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
>> dollar a pound now.Â* That price probably won't get better for several
>> months as the flooding and freezing took outÂ* the brassicas in Texas.
>> Janet US
>>
> I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
> That's why I buy two of them when I can find them.Â* Yes, the freeze in
> Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas.Â* I think
> most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
>
> Jill
>
Texas must have them some pansy-ass brassicas if they can't handle
a little bit of sub freezing weather. Snowflakes that can't take
a few snowflakes.

--
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tested on laboratory animals.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:36:57 PM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-03-06 9:16 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
> >> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
> >>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
> >>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
> >>>>>> closer to
> >>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
> >>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
> >>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
> >>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
> >>>>> you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country. Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
> >>>> at my grocery. Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
> >>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>>
> >>> The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb. That's about the
> >>> best price I'll find. I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
> >>> in stores in this area.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
> >> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb. OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
> >> dollar a pound now. That price probably won't get better for several
> >> months as the flooding and freezing took out the brassicas in Texas.
> >> Janet US
> >>
> > I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
> > That's why I buy two of them when I can find them. Yes, the freeze in
> > Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas. I think
> > most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
> >
> > Jill
> Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
> was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
> severe frost.

A severe frost is one thing. A sustained hard freeze would turn
your brassicas to mush.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:55:55 PM UTC-5, wrote:

> We have the el cheapo point cut at ALDI for $1.99, and flat cut
> for $2.99. The point cut ones are almost 50% fat.

When I buy sliced corned beef at the deli (not the grocery store deli),
I ask a for a mix from the point and the flat.

Cindy Hamilton

On 06/03/2021 17:49, Bruce wrote:

> Same with kale. Frost makes it produce sugar as an anti-freeze. It
> makes the kale taste better, at least according to old wives.
>
In Scotland, the kitchen garden used to be called a kailyard.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 10:36:44 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-03-06 9:16 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
>>>>>>> closer to
>>>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country.* Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>>>>> at my grocery.* Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>>>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> * The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb.* That's about the
>>>> best price I'll find.* I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
>>>> in stores in this area.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
>>> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb.* OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
>>> dollar a pound now.* That price probably won't get better for several
>>> months as the flooding and freezing took out* the brassicas in Texas.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
>> That's why I buy two of them when I can find them.* Yes, the freeze in
>> Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas.* I think
>> most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
>>
>> Jill
>Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
>was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
>severe frost.

The brassicas were standing in water and covered thickly with ice and
looked rotted. The field smelled very bad.
Brussels sprouts are o.k. at maybe 20F for a short period.
Janet US

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 11:55:24 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> wrote:

>On 3/6/2021 8:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>>
>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>>> you.
>>>
>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country.* Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>>> at my grocery.* Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> * The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb.* That's about the
>> best price I'll find.* I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
>> in stores in this area.
>>
>> Jill
>
>We have the el cheapo point cut at ALDI for $1.99, and flat cut
>for $2.99. The point cut ones are almost 50% fat.


I haven't seen prices like that for maybe 10 years.
Janet US

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 18:20:39 +0000, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 06/03/2021 17:49, Bruce wrote:
>
>> Same with kale. Frost makes it produce sugar as an anti-freeze. It
>> makes the kale taste better, at least according to old wives.
>>
>In Scotland, the kitchen garden used to be called a kailyard.

Kale must be (or must once have been) as popular in Scotland as in the
Netherlands.

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On 06/03/2021 18:23, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 18:20:39 +0000, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 06/03/2021 17:49, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> Same with kale. Frost makes it produce sugar as an anti-freeze. It
>>> makes the kale taste better, at least according to old wives.
>>>
>> In Scotland, the kitchen garden used to be called a kailyard.
>
> Kale must be (or must once have been) as popular in Scotland as in the
> Netherlands.
>
It's still popular! In fact, I have a packet of seeds here, ready for
planting soon.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 11:49:14 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 10:36:44 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
> >Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
> >was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
> >severe frost.
> >
> Same with kale. Frost makes it produce sugar as an anti-freeze. It
> makes the kale taste better, at least according to old wives.
>
Turnip greens, too.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 10:36:44 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-03-06 9:16 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
>>>>>>> closer to
>>>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country.* Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>>>>> at my grocery.* Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>>>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> * The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb.* That's about the
>>>> best price I'll find.* I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
>>>> in stores in this area.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
>>> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb.* OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
>>> dollar a pound now.* That price probably won't get better for several
>>> months as the flooding and freezing took out* the brassicas in Texas.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
>> That's why I buy two of them when I can find them.* Yes, the freeze in
>> Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas.* I think
>> most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
>>
>> Jill
>Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
>was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
>severe frost.

That is always recommended for sprouts around here. Cuts bitterness.

I do not know if there is a variety that is naturally less bitter and
does not required.

I have not grown them in years. Losing full and ready-to-harvest stems
to a groundhog, just ticked me off too much to bother.

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>
>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>
> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
> yoiu.
>

Texas is a very special place.
Thank you!

On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 15:38:40 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 10:36:44 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
>>On 2021-03-06 9:16 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
>>>>>>>> closer to
>>>>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>>>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>>>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country.* Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>>>>>> at my grocery.* Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>>>>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>> * The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb.* That's about the
>>>>> best price I'll find.* I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
>>>>> in stores in this area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
>>>> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb.* OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
>>>> dollar a pound now.* That price probably won't get better for several
>>>> months as the flooding and freezing took out* the brassicas in Texas.
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
>>> That's why I buy two of them when I can find them.* Yes, the freeze in
>>> Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas.* I think
>>> most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
>>was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
>>severe frost.
>
>That is always recommended for sprouts around here. Cuts bitterness.
>
>I do not know if there is a variety that is naturally less bitter and
>does not required.
>
>I have not grown them in years. Losing full and ready-to-harvest stems
>to a groundhog, just ticked me off too much to bother.

the stems of mine got furry with aphids and I could see I wasn't going
to win that battle.
Janet US

On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 18:20:02 -0700, US Janet >
wrote:

>On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 15:38:40 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 10:36:44 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2021-03-06 9:16 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>>>>>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>>>>>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
>>>>>>>>> closer to
>>>>>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>>>>>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
>>>>>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
>>>>>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country.* Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
>>>>>>> at my grocery.* Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
>>>>>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> * The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb.* That's about the
>>>>>> best price I'll find.* I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
>>>>>> in stores in this area.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
>>>>> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb.* OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
>>>>> dollar a pound now.* That price probably won't get better for several
>>>>> months as the flooding and freezing took out* the brassicas in Texas.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>> I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
>>>> That's why I buy two of them when I can find them.* Yes, the freeze in
>>>> Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas.* I think
>>>> most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
>>>was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
>>>severe frost.
>>
>>That is always recommended for sprouts around here. Cuts bitterness.
>>
>>I do not know if there is a variety that is naturally less bitter and
>>does not required.
>>
>>I have not grown them in years. Losing full and ready-to-harvest stems
>>to a groundhog, just ticked me off too much to bother.
>
>the stems of mine got furry with aphids and I could see I wasn't going
>to win that battle.
>Janet US

The bane of gardening- all that time invested in crowing a crop and
the other side of Nature comes along and spits in your eye.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:20:08 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 15:38:40 -0500, Boron Elgar
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 10:36:44 -0700, Graham > wrote:
> >
> >>On 2021-03-06 9:16 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >>> On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
> >>>>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
> >>>>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
> >>>>>>>> closer to
> >>>>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
> >>>>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
> >>>>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
> >>>>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
> >>>>>>> you.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country. Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
> >>>>>> at my grocery. Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
> >>>>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb. That's about the
> >>>>> best price I'll find. I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
> >>>>> in stores in this area.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jill
> >>>>
> >>>> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
> >>>> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb. OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
> >>>> dollar a pound now. That price probably won't get better for several
> >>>> months as the flooding and freezing took out the brassicas in Texas.
> >>>> Janet US
> >>>>
> >>> I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
> >>> That's why I buy two of them when I can find them. Yes, the freeze in
> >>> Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas. I think
> >>> most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
> >>was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
> >>severe frost.
> >
> >That is always recommended for sprouts around here. Cuts bitterness.
> >
> >I do not know if there is a variety that is naturally less bitter and
> >does not required.
> >
> >I have not grown them in years. Losing full and ready-to-harvest stems
> >to a groundhog, just ticked me off too much to bother.
> the stems of mine got furry with aphids and I could see I wasn't going
> to win that battle.

Incredible! Some people don't like being near gardening, though. If anyone gets bitten or electrocuted by an eel or something, it kinda has a repel effect from then on.

On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 3:06:27 AM UTC-6, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:20:08 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
> > On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 15:38:40 -0500, Boron Elgar
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 10:36:44 -0700, Graham > wrote:
> > >
> > >>On 2021-03-06 9:16 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > >>> On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
> > >>>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
> > >>>>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
> > >>>>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
> > >>>>>>>> closer to
> > >>>>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
> > >>>>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
> > >>>>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
> > >>>>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
> > >>>>>>> you.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country. Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
> > >>>>>> at my grocery. Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
> > >>>>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb. That's about the
> > >>>>> best price I'll find. I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
> > >>>>> in stores in this area.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jill
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
> > >>>> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb. OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
> > >>>> dollar a pound now. That price probably won't get better for several
> > >>>> months as the flooding and freezing took out the brassicas in Texas.
> > >>>> Janet US
> > >>>>
> > >>> I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
> > >>> That's why I buy two of them when I can find them. Yes, the freeze in
> > >>> Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas. I think
> > >>> most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jill
> > >>Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
> > >>was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
> > >>severe frost.
> > >
> > >That is always recommended for sprouts around here. Cuts bitterness.
> > >
> > >I do not know if there is a variety that is naturally less bitter and
> > >does not required.
> > >
> > >I have not grown them in years. Losing full and ready-to-harvest stems
> > >to a groundhog, just ticked me off too much to bother.
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffD8...tart_radio =1
>
> > the stems of mine got furry with aphids and I could see I wasn't going
> > to win that battle.
>
> Incredible! Some people don't like being near gardening, though. If anyone gets bitten
> or electrocuted by an eel or something, it kinda has a repel effect from then on.
>
Fortunately, my garden doesn't have any eels. I've already put tomato seeds in the
ground, and my blackberries are budding out.

If you want great tomatoes, you either have to pay really high prices
or grow your own. I'm going to plant a lot of them this year, and I'm
going for interesting varieties. I'm ordering from these folks.
https://www.tomatofest.com/aboutus.asp
They are total tomato nerds, and their prices aren't too high. Sunlight
is free, and digging in soil is mentally restorative.

--
--Bryan
For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

On 06/03/2021 18:36, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 06/03/2021 18:23, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 18:20:39 +0000, S Viemeister
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/03/2021 17:49, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same with kale. Frost makes it produce sugar as an anti-freeze. It
>>>> makes the kale taste better, at least according to old wives.
>>>>
>>> In Scotland, the kitchen garden used to be called a kailyard.
>>
>> Kale must be (or must once have been) as popular in Scotland as in the
>> Netherlands.
>>
> It's still popular! In fact, I have a packet of seeds here, ready for
> planting soon.


===

Same here))

On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 05:16:07 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:


>If you want great tomatoes, you either have to pay really high prices
>or grow your own. I'm going to plant a lot of them this year, and I'm
>going for interesting varieties. I'm ordering from these folks.
>https://www.tomatofest.com/aboutus.asp
>They are total tomato nerds, and their prices aren't too high. Sunlight
>is free, and digging in soil is mentally restorative.

I have ordered from them at times in the past. They are fine
suppliers.

I save tomato seeds from year to year from varieties that have done
well and had interesting tastes. Some varieties breed true, others
have developed into variants of their own, often with interesting
results.

I do grow a lot of cherry/smaller type fruits, too, as I live next to
150 acres of wood and get more than my fair share of predators. If I
grow smaller fruits, I generally get to keep some for harvest. Larger,
beefsteak sorts can produce few enough fruits that a bunch of
chipmunks, raccoons and groundhogs can end them altogether.

Last year I bought a small container of "heirloom" and unusual
cherries of all colors, shapes and sizes. I over ripened a dozen or so
of them, harvested the seed, and planted them in seed pots. I got some
terrific fruits as the season went on..

On 07/03/2021 13:34, Ophelia wrote:
> On 06/03/2021 18:36, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 06/03/2021 18:23, Bruce wrote:
>>> Kale must be (or must once have been) as popular in Scotland as in the
>>> Netherlands.
>> It's still popular! In fact, I have a packet of seeds here, ready for
>> planting soon.
>
>
> ===
>
> Â* Same here))

That reminds me - I found a UK source for those 'Purple Magnolia Snap
Peas' I mentioned recently - Kings Seeds in Colchester. Also available
on Amazon.
Packet of 150 seeds for £2.45.

They are pretty when growing, attractive on the plate, and even my
daughter who dislikes ordinary peas, thinks they're tasty.

On 2021-03-07 4:06 a.m., bruce bowser wrote:
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:20:08 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:

>>> I do not know if there is a variety that is naturally less bitter
>>> and does not required.
>>>
>>> I have not grown them in years. Losing full and ready-to-harvest
>>> stems to a groundhog, just ticked me off too much to bother.
>> the stems of mine got furry with aphids and I could see I wasn't
>> going to win that battle.
>
> Incredible! Some people don't like being near gardening, though. If
> anyone gets bitten or electrocuted by an eel or something, it kinda
> has a repel effect from then on.
>
I had a good sized vegetable garden when I first moved here. One day I
was down on my hands and knees pulling weeds by hand and discovered
stinging nettles. Holy carp. It felt like I had stuck my hand into a
hornet nest. It didn't turn me off gardening completely, but It sure
left a bad imnpression on me. Now I make sure to wear gloves.

On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 08:37:00 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:

> I save tomato seeds from year to year [...]
> Some varieties breed true, others [...]
> with interesting results.
>
> [...] I got some terrific fruits

Be wary of Nightshade. They look (& apparently taste) like a sweet tiny
cherry tomato. I'm not sure how much as adult can eat, but a few can kill
a small child, especially if not quite ripe.

I thought they could interbreed with tomatoes, but I just checked and the
concensus opinion seems to be 'unlikely'.

On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> stinging nettles.

Where? I thought that was a European problem.

On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-03-07 4:06 a.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:20:08 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
>
>>>> I do not know if there is a variety that is naturally less bitter
>>>> and does not required.
>>>>
>>>> I have not grown them in years. Losing full and ready-to-harvest
>>>> stems to a groundhog, just ticked me off too much to bother.
>>> the stems of mine got furry with aphids and I could see I wasn't
>>> going to win that battle.
>>
>> Incredible! Some people don't like being near gardening, though. If
>> anyone gets bitten or electrocuted by an eel or something, it kinda
>> has a repel effect from then on.
>>
>I had a good sized vegetable garden when I first moved here. One day I
>was down on my hands and knees pulling weeds by hand and discovered
>stinging nettles. Holy carp. It felt like I had stuck my hand into a
>hornet nest. It didn't turn me off gardening completely, but It sure
>left a bad imnpression on me. Now I make sure to wear gloves.

leather or plastic type gloves only. The cloth gloves will let the
pokey parts through and into your hand. There are gloves out now that
have cloth backs and protected palms, those are the best.
Janet US

On 3/7/2021 9:07 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> stinging nettles.
>
> Where? I thought that was a European problem.
>


Northern California Coast has plenty of them. Of course, to those in
tune with mother nature, they are often found in close proximity to
curly dock, which is an antidote of some sort.

On 2021-03-07 10:21 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 3/7/2021 9:07 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> stinging nettles.
>>
>> Where? I thought that was a European problem.
>>
>
>
> Northern California Coast has plenty of them.Â* Of course, to those in
> tune with mother nature, they are often found in close proximity to
> curly dock, which is an antidote of some sort.

You can always make nettle soup.
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/nettle-soup

On 3/7/2021 9:24 AM, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-03-07 10:21 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 3/7/2021 9:07 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> stinging nettles.
>>>
>>> Where? I thought that was a European problem.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Northern California Coast has plenty of them.Â* Of course, to those in
>> tune with mother nature, they are often found in close proximity to
>> curly dock, which is an antidote of some sort.
>
> You can always make nettle soup.
> https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/nettle-soup
>


Rather odd that they don't suggest reserving a few uncooked nettles for
garnish.

On 2021-03-07 12:07 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> stinging nettles.
>
> Where? I thought that was a European problem.
>

I live in the Niagara Peninsula. It is quite common here.


http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/...ing_nettle.htm

On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 8:16:11 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 3:06:27 AM UTC-6, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:20:08 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
> > > On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 15:38:40 -0500, Boron Elgar
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 10:36:44 -0700, Graham > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>On 2021-03-06 9:16 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > >>> On 3/6/2021 10:57 AM, US Janet wrote:
> > > >>>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:41:34 -0500, jmcquown >
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:48:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
> > > >>>>>>>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
> > > >>>>>>>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until
> > > >>>>>>>> closer to
> > > >>>>>>>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
> > > >>>>>>>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> They;'ve given upon corned beef and St Patricks day here. Nobody in
> > > >>>>>>> Texas buys 35% solution added corned beef for $4-5/lb when it's
> > > >>>>>>> $1.80 pound with no added water all day long. It's our gift to
> > > >>>>>>> you.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Texas is a whole 'nother country. Flat cut brisket is $5.99/pound
> > > >>>>>> at my grocery. Corned beef (flat cut brisket) is $6.99/pound.
> > > >>>>>> Packer cut appears to be nonexistent.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> The flat cut corned beef briskets were $3.99/lb. That's about the
> > > >>>>> best price I'll find. I've never seen anything other than the flat cut
> > > >>>>> in stores in this area.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Jill
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I got my corned beef sometime around Thanksgiving because it was a
> > > >>>> beautiful piece of meat at $3.69/lb. OTOH, fresh cabbage is about a
> > > >>>> dollar a pound now. That price probably won't get better for several
> > > >>>> months as the flooding and freezing took out the brassicas in Texas.
> > > >>>> Janet US
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> I have never seen corned beef at the stores down here in November!
> > > >>> That's why I buy two of them when I can find them. Yes, the freeze in
> > > >>> Texas might very well have a widespread affect on brassicas. I think
> > > >>> most of the produce in supermarkets around here is grown in SC, GA or FL.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jill
> > > >>Brassicas survive wintry temperatures quite well. Indeed, in the UK it
> > > >>was traditional not to eat Brussel Sprouts until they'd gone through a
> > > >>severe frost.
> > > >
> > > >That is always recommended for sprouts around here. Cuts bitterness.
> > > >
> > > >I do not know if there is a variety that is naturally less bitter and
> > > >does not required.
> > > >
> > > >I have not grown them in years. Losing full and ready-to-harvest stems
> > > >to a groundhog, just ticked me off too much to bother.
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffD8...tart_radio =1
> >
> > > the stems of mine got furry with aphids and I could see I wasn't going
> > > to win that battle.
> >
> > Incredible! Some people don't like being near gardening, though. If anyone gets bitten
> > or electrocuted by an eel or something, it kinda has a repel effect from then on.
> >
> Fortunately, my garden doesn't have any eels.

I'm jaded about back yards, though. Now because of shovels, etc.., I don't care about black bears, wolves, bobcats, cougars or grizzlies. But I have been run down by bees from a beehive. Not cool. Also, America has 4 main poisonous snakes: rattlesnakes, copperheads, cottonmouths/water moccasins and coral snakes. Feeling pain from something you can't see or swing away at? No.

On 2021-03-07 12:26 p.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 3/7/2021 9:24 AM, Graham wrote:
>> On 2021-03-07 10:21 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 3/7/2021 9:07 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> stinging nettles.
>>>>
>>>> Where? I thought that was a European problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Northern California Coast has plenty of them.Â* Of course, to those in
>>> tune with mother nature, they are often found in close proximity to
>>> curly dock, which is an antidote of some sort.
>>
>> You can always make nettle soup.
>> https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/nettle-soup
>>
>
>
> Rather odd that they don't suggest reserving a few uncooked nettles for
> garnish.
>


Or stems for tooth picks ;-)

On 3/7/2021 9:55 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-07 12:26 p.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 3/7/2021 9:24 AM, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-07 10:21 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>> On 3/7/2021 9:07 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> stinging nettles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where? I thought that was a European problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Northern California Coast has plenty of them.Â* Of course, to those in
>>>> tune with mother nature, they are often found in close proximity to
>>>> curly dock, which is an antidote of some sort.
>>>
>>> You can always make nettle soup.
>>> https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/nettle-soup
>>>
>>
>>
>> Rather odd that they don't suggest reserving a few uncooked nettles for
>> garnish.
>>
>
>
> Or stems for tooth picks ;-)
>


Better yet: a sauna whisk!

On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 10:24:12 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-03-07 10:21 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 3/7/2021 9:07 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> stinging nettles.
>>>
>>> Where? I thought that was a European problem.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Northern California Coast has plenty of them.Â* Of course, to those in
>> tune with mother nature, they are often found in close proximity to
>> curly dock, which is an antidote of some sort.
>
>You can always make nettle soup.
>https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/nettle-soup

I had nettle bread once.

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On 3/7/2021 7:37 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 05:16:07 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> > wrote:
>
>
>> If you want great tomatoes, you either have to pay really high prices
>> or grow your own. I'm going to plant a lot of them this year, and I'm
>> going for interesting varieties. I'm ordering from these folks.
>> https://www.tomatofest.com/aboutus.asp
>> They are total tomato nerds, and their prices aren't too high. Sunlight
>> is free, and digging in soil is mentally restorative.
>
> I have ordered from them at times in the past. They are fine
> suppliers.
>
> I save tomato seeds from year to year from varieties that have done
> well and had interesting tastes. Some varieties breed true, others
> have developed into variants of their own, often with interesting
> results.
>
> I do grow a lot of cherry/smaller type fruits, too, as I live next to
> 150 acres of wood and get more than my fair share of predators. If I
> grow smaller fruits, I generally get to keep some for harvest. Larger,
> beefsteak sorts can produce few enough fruits that a bunch of
> chipmunks, raccoons and groundhogs can end them altogether.
>
> Last year I bought a small container of "heirloom" and unusual
> cherries of all colors, shapes and sizes. I over ripened a dozen or so
> of them, harvested the seed, and planted them in seed pots. I got some
> terrific fruits as the season went on..
>
There's an area where we camp where there's a little clearing.
It's small, but the northern edge of it should get plenty of
sunlight for tomatoes. The "soil" there is basically just rock,
but this Spring we're going out there with pick, mattock and
shovel, and a few bags of topsoil to clear an area to start
these.
http://yougrowgirl.com/tomatoes-wort...white-currant/
I've grown red currants before. I'd also like to put one
oddball out there to get x pollinated by the currant.
Maybe this.
https://www.tomatofest.com/Blue_Berr...p/tf-0070e.htm

Anyway, I figure that if I get the white currants growing there,
they'll self seed every year. We've already put some tame
blackberries in out there right next to the ones that have been
there for ages.


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