On 3/9/2021 1:00 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>>> I had nettle bread once.
>>
>> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
>> It´s a joke, folks.
>
> That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty.

This was an amusing tread to me.
Stinging nettles and curved docks for the antidote

Back in the 1950's-60's, I lived on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay.
In those days, in my area, stinging nettles (aka sea nettles) were small
jellyfish in the water.

And for the antidote, straight docks (not curved) worked.

IOW, stand on the (boat) dock and you won't be in the water with the
"Stinging nettles."

Until yesterday, I had never heard of the plant varieties.

On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:57:07 +0000, Ophelia wrote:

> Do report back)

I had to (?) do that to a spider once.

On 3/9/2021 9:38 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:57:07 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Do report back)
>
> I had to (?) do that to a spider once.
>
LOL. I have no idea what your point there was.

I do have an old and favorite quote though about spiders.
"The spider needn't hurry if the web is right."

Then the Larson cartoon... two spiders built a large web at the end of a
children's sliding board. One spider says to the other, "If this works,
we'll eat like kings!"

Your book review is next, Mike. I haven't forgotten...just lazy. I don't
want to rush it like I did the first time.

On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 08:52:43 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>On 3/9/2021 1:00 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>>> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
>>> (in >):
>>>
>>>> I had nettle bread once.
>>>
>>> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
>>> It´s a joke, folks.
>>
>> That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty.
>
>This was an amusing tread to me.
>Stinging nettles and curved docks for the antidote
>
>Back in the 1950's-60's, I lived on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay.
>In those days, in my area, stinging nettles (aka sea nettles) were small
>jellyfish in the water.
>
>And for the antidote, straight docks (not curved) worked.
>
>IOW, stand on the (boat) dock and you won't be in the water with the
>"Stinging nettles."
>
>Until yesterday, I had never heard of the plant varieties.

And then there is the box jelly fish, a stinger in its own right.

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On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:57:14 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> On 09/03/2021 06:36, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:11:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 22:00:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> >>>> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
> >>>> (in >):
> >>>>
> >>>>> I had nettle bread once.
> >>>>
> >>>> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
> >>>> It´s a joke, folks.
> >>>
> >>> That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on this rock. My daughter got a box of products that was mailed from Arizona. There was a shocking brown caterpillar hitching a ride inside the box. What was shocking was it was nearly 5 inches long. We don't have any big caterpillars on this rock. We let it
> >> go on the plants outside. Hopefully, we won't be seeing that critter again. It's so creepy!
> >> It was pregnant and now they're spreading in Hawaii.
> >> --
> >> The real Bruce posts with Eternal September
> >
> > I don't know nothing about no pregnant worms. Perhaps I'll go out there with my flashlight tonight and hunt that basterd down.
> >
> ==
>
> Do report back)

I remember I felt something when I was swimming. I said "never again" will I go into these waters.

On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:16:09 -0500, Gary wrote:

> On 3/9/2021 9:38 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:

>> I had to (?) do that to a spider once.

> LOL. I have no idea what your point there was.


I had a bunch of bananas. Out jumped a huge (~5mm head to tail) jumping
spider with very prominent red & yellow markings. It had the exact same
shape & movement as the much smaller (~3mm) black & white jumping spiders
I am familiar with.

I assumed it was very venomous just because of the bold colours. I also
assumed that it may have been pregnant. I also assumed that it likely
that it behaved similar to the smaller ones, i.e. they do not back down
from threats.

So I killed it immediately, just as DSI1 should have with the strange
caterpillar. The major difference is that I doubt if caterpillars of any
stripes can mate before pupating. Nevertheless, on an island with a
dismal history on invasive species, each human is expected to be humanly
knowledgeable & responsible. Just two adults might have pheromones to
help find each other and fill the island with an unwanted living scourge.

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 1:55:49 PM UTC-8, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:16:09 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
> > On 3/9/2021 9:38 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>
> >> I had to (?) do that to a spider once.
>
> > LOL. I have no idea what your point there was.
> I had a bunch of bananas. Out jumped a huge (~5mm head to tail) jumping
> spider with very prominent red & yellow markings. It had the exact same
> shape & movement as the much smaller (~3mm) black & white jumping spiders
> I am familiar with.
>
> I assumed it was very venomous just because of the bold colours. I also
> assumed that it may have been pregnant. I also assumed that it likely
> that it behaved similar to the smaller ones, i.e. they do not back down
> from threats.
>
> So I killed it immediately, just as DSI1 should have with the strange
> caterpillar. The major difference is that I doubt if caterpillars of any
> stripes can mate before pupating. Nevertheless, on an island with a
> dismal history on invasive species, each human is expected to be humanly
> knowledgeable & responsible. Just two adults might have pheromones to
> help find each other and fill the island with an unwanted living scourge.

I'm not much of a killer. I once had a large cane spider on my bare chest. I grabbed it, stuck it in a jar and let it go later. The good part of this is now I know how I'd react to a cane spider jumping on me. You never know until it actually happens. Hopefully, it was after 12 noon when your spider was dispatched. According to the Koreans, it's bad luck to kill a spider in the morning. After noon and in the evenings, it's no problem at all - according to my wife.

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:36:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>
> I'm not much of a killer. I once had a large cane spider on my bare chest.. I grabbed it, stuck it in a jar and let it go later. The good part of this is now I know how I'd react to a cane spider jumping on me. You never know until it actually happens. Hopefully, it was after 12 noon when your spider was dispatched. According to the Koreans, it's bad luck to kill a spider in the morning. After noon and in the evenings, it's no problem at all - according to my wife.
>
https://i.postimg.cc/DZBQZC7L/Shoe.jpg

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:52:51 AM UTC-8, Gary wrote:
> On 3/9/2021 1:00 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> >> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
> >> (in >):
> >>
> >>> I had nettle bread once.
> >>
> >> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
> >> It´s a joke, folks.
> >
> > That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty.
> This was an amusing tread to me.
> Stinging nettles and curved docks for the antidote
>
> Back in the 1950's-60's, I lived on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay.
> In those days, in my area, stinging nettles (aka sea nettles) were small
> jellyfish in the water.
>
> And for the antidote, straight docks (not curved) worked.
>
> IOW, stand on the (boat) dock and you won't be in the water with the
> "Stinging nettles."
>
> Until yesterday, I had never heard of the plant varieties.

We have Portuguese man o' wars in these waters. I've been stung once but one never forgets that. The folk cure for stings of that nature is urine. We were on a camping trip with the kids and parents of my son's pre-school. One of the kids was stung with a man o' war. His mother pulled the crotch of her swimming suit to the side and peed on his arm. How awful for the kid! My guess is that the sting was somewhat less traumatic than the cure.

On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 16:51:22 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:52:51 AM UTC-8, Gary wrote:
>> On 3/9/2021 1:00 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> >> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
>> >> (in >):
>> >>
>> >>> I had nettle bread once.
>> >>
>> >> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
>> >> It´s a joke, folks.
>> >
>> > That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty.
>> This was an amusing tread to me.
>> Stinging nettles and curved docks for the antidote
>>
>> Back in the 1950's-60's, I lived on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay.
>> In those days, in my area, stinging nettles (aka sea nettles) were small
>> jellyfish in the water.
>>
>> And for the antidote, straight docks (not curved) worked.
>>
>> IOW, stand on the (boat) dock and you won't be in the water with the
>> "Stinging nettles."
>>
>> Until yesterday, I had never heard of the plant varieties.
>
>We have Portuguese man o' wars in these waters. I've been stung once but one never forgets that. The folk cure for stings of that nature is urine. We were on a camping trip with the kids and parents of my son's pre-school. One of the kids was stung with a man o' war. His mother pulled the crotch of her swimming suit to the side and peed on his arm. How awful for the kid! My guess is that the sting was somewhat less traumatic than the cure.

I recall being stung by a much smaller and less dangerous jelly when
swimming off a private beach in Greece. The boat operator who had
taken us out there, offered up similar advice for a cure. I rejected
it and luckily, my sting was minor.

On 3/9/2021 6:46 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:36:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> I'm not much of a killer. I once had a large cane spider on my bare chest. I grabbed it, stuck it in a jar and let it go later. The good part of this is now I know how I'd react to a cane spider jumping on me. You never know until it actually happens. Hopefully, it was after 12 noon when your spider was dispatched. According to the Koreans, it's bad luck to kill a spider in the morning. After noon and in the evenings, it's no problem at all - according to my wife.
>>
> https://i.postimg.cc/DZBQZC7L/Shoe.jpg
>
LOLOL!

Jill

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:05:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On 3/9/2021 6:46 PM, wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:36:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm not much of a killer. I once had a large cane spider on my bare chest. I grabbed it, stuck it in a jar and let it go later. The good part of this is now I know how I'd react to a cane spider jumping on me. You never know until it actually happens. Hopefully, it was after 12 noon when your spider was dispatched. According to the Koreans, it's bad luck to kill a spider in the morning. After noon and in the evenings, it's no problem at all - according to my wife.
> >>
> > https://i.postimg.cc/DZBQZC7L/Shoe.jpg
> >
> LOLOL!

In Hawaii, the sharks probably enjoy the more caring swimmers.

On 09/03/2021 14:38, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:57:07 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Do report back)
>
> I had to (?) do that to a spider once.
>
==

?

On 09/03/2021 19:58, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:57:14 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 09/03/2021 06:36, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:11:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 22:00:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
>>>>>> (in >):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had nettle bread once.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
>>>>>> It´s a joke, folks.
>>>>>
>>>>> That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on this rock. My daughter got a box of products that was mailed from Arizona. There was a shocking brown caterpillar hitching a ride inside the box. What was shocking was it was nearly 5 inches long. We don't have any big caterpillars on this rock. We let it
>>>> go on the plants outside. Hopefully, we won't be seeing that critter again. It's so creepy!
>>>> It was pregnant and now they're spreading in Hawaii.
>>>> --
>>>> The real Bruce posts with Eternal September
>>>
>>> I don't know nothing about no pregnant worms. Perhaps I'll go out there with my flashlight tonight and hunt that basterd down.
>>>
>> ==
>>
>> Do report back)
>
> I remember I felt something when I was swimming. I said "never again" will I go into these waters.
>

=====

???? ackkkkkkkkkkkk!! I don't blame you, nor would I!!!

dsi1 wrote:
>
> We have Portuguese man o' wars in these waters.
> I've been stung once but one never forgets that.
> The folk cure for stings of that nature is urine.

I suspect "folk cure" is right and just a myth. We should check to see
what Snopes says about all that.

Bottom line, when any jellyfish stings you, it not with an acid that
might be neutralized with acid from your pee. The sting injects tiny
barbs into your skin. Best to remove them quickly...rub with wet sand
immediately. Hey, it works.

I got stung by one here. Big storm and I was walking down the beach
where the waves were washing up. I stopped to look at one on the beach
and a wave came up and washed all the tentacles right over the top of my
foot. I immediately bent down and scrubbed with wet sand...never felt a
thing.

I've spent much of my life in the ocean and been stung by jellyfish many
times. The quick rub with wet sand is a good plan.

Boron Elgar wrote:
> I recall being stung by a much smaller and less dangerous jelly when
> swimming off a private beach in Greece. The boat operator who had
> taken us out there, offered up similar advice for a cure. I rejected
> it and luckily, my sting was minor.

Most jellyfish stings are not dangerous and quickly forgotten.

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:11:26 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > We have Portuguese man o' wars in these waters.
> > I've been stung once but one never forgets that.
> > The folk cure for stings of that nature is urine.
> I suspect "folk cure" is right and just a myth. We should check to see
> what Snopes says about all that.
>
> Bottom line, when any jellyfish stings you, it not with an acid that
> might be neutralized with acid from your pee. The sting injects tiny
> barbs into your skin. Best to remove them quickly...rub with wet sand
> immediately. Hey, it works.
>
> I got stung by one here. Big storm and I was walking down the beach
> where the waves were washing up. I stopped to look at one on the beach
> and a wave came up and washed all the tentacles right over the top of my
> foot. I immediately bent down and scrubbed with wet sand...never felt a
> thing.
>
> I've spent much of my life in the ocean and been stung by jellyfish many
> times. The quick rub with wet sand is a good plan.

I'll keep that in mind.

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 6:48:19 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>
> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>
> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>
> Jill
>
I know this subject has already drifted around the bend but I will mention
it just the same. I got an Aldi ad today and a flat-cut of corned beef is
going for $2.99 per pound, limit two. Also, cabbage is selling for 59¢
per pound.

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:11:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Boron Elgar wrote:
>> I recall being stung by a much smaller and less dangerous jelly when
>> swimming off a private beach in Greece. The boat operator who had
>> taken us out there, offered up similar advice for a cure. I rejected
>> it and luckily, my sting was minor.
>
>Most jellyfish stings are not dangerous and quickly forgotten.

Not in Australia.

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On 3/10/2021 1:59 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 6:48:19 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>>
>> I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
>> Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
>> work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
>>
>> Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
>> the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
>> save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> I know this subject has already drifted around the bend

And how!

> but I will mention
> it just the same. I got an Aldi ad today and a flat-cut of corned beef is
> going for $2.99 per pound, limit two. Also, cabbage is selling for 59¢
> per pound.
>
$3.99/lb was about the best I can hope for and flat cut is the only one
I ever see. A few years ago Food Lion had them advertised for $2.99/lb
but of course when I got there (the same day or the day after the ad
came out) they were out of stock. I haven't seen them for anything less
than $3.99/lb. since then but one can always hope.

I'll pick up the cabbage on my way home one day next week. 39cents/lb.
is the going rate for cabbage.

Jill

On 3/10/2021 2:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:11:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> I recall being stung by a much smaller and less dangerous jelly when
>>> swimming off a private beach in Greece. The boat operator who had
>>> taken us out there, offered up similar advice for a cure. I rejected
>>> it and luckily, my sting was minor.
>>
>> Most jellyfish stings are not dangerous and quickly forgotten.
>
> Not in Australia.

Yes. You have the small but very deadly box jellyfish. Dsi1 has them in
Hawaii too. They appear to be only tropical species. Luckily, none of
those in my area.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 07:41:00 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>On 3/10/2021 2:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:11:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> I recall being stung by a much smaller and less dangerous jelly when
>>>> swimming off a private beach in Greece. The boat operator who had
>>>> taken us out there, offered up similar advice for a cure. I rejected
>>>> it and luckily, my sting was minor.
>>>
>>> Most jellyfish stings are not dangerous and quickly forgotten.
>>
>> Not in Australia.
>
>Yes. You have the small but very deadly box jellyfish. Dsi1 has them in
>Hawaii too. They appear to be only tropical species. Luckily, none of
>those in my area.

Yes, that's the one: stingers.

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On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 22:00:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>> > I had nettle bread once.
>>
>> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
>> It´s a joke, folks.
>
>That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on this rock.

That makes no sense. Why would stinging nettle 'choose' to avoid
Hawaii? Of course, the correct answer is David Iwaoka is talking
complete crap, yet again;

https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/restoremauna.../hesperocnide/

https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/hisc/info/sp...e-caterpillar/

On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 11:57:07 +0000, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 09/03/2021 06:36, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:11:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 22:00:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>>>>> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
>>>>> (in >):
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had nettle bread once.
>>>>>
>>>>> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
>>>>> It´s a joke, folks.
>>>>
>>>> That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on this rock. My daughter got a box of products that was mailed from Arizona. There was a shocking brown caterpillar hitching a ride inside the box. What was shocking was it was nearly 5 inches long. We don't have any big caterpillars on this rock. We let it
>>> go on the plants outside. Hopefully, we won't be seeing that critter again. It's so creepy!
>>> It was pregnant and now they're spreading in Hawaii.
>>>
>>> --
>>> The real Bruce posts with Eternal September
>>
>> I don't know nothing about no pregnant worms. Perhaps I'll go out there with my flashlight tonight and hunt that basterd down.
>>
>
>==
>
> Do report back)

lol

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:25:29 +0000, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 09/03/2021 14:38, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:57:07 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> Do report back)
>>
>> I had to (?) do that to a spider once.
>>
>==
>
>?


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On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 2:00:02 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 6:48:19 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> >
> > I waited too late last year trying to catch the sales on Corned Beef
> > Brisket. The local stores ran out. I shopped at Publix today after
> > work (nary a soul there around 4:15 PM) and picked up two of them.
> >
> > Popped them both in the stand-alone freezer. I'll wait until closer to
> > the 17th to buy the cabbage to go with one of them. The other I will
> > save until Fall, when Corned Beef Brisket is impossible to find.
> >
> > Jill
>
> I know this subject has already drifted around the bend but I will mention
> it just the same.

Around the bend? As in the bend around a toilet bowl?

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:15:20 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 22:00:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> >> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
> >> (in >):
> >>
> >> > I had nettle bread once.
> >>
> >> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
> >> It´s a joke, folks.
> >
> >That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on this rock.
>
> That makes no sense. Why would stinging nettle 'choose' to avoid
> Hawaii? Of course, the correct answer is David Iwaoka is talking
> complete crap, yet again;
>
> https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/restoremauna.../hesperocnide/
>
> https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/hisc/info/sp...e-caterpillar/

Cut me a break, man.

"Urtica dioica is considered to be native to Europe, much of temperate Asia and western North Africa.[1] It is abundant in northern Europe and much of Asia, usually found in the countryside. It is less widespread in southern Europe and north Africa, where it is restricted by its need for moist soil, but is still common. It has been introduced to many other parts of the world. In North America, it is widely distributed in Canada and the United States, where it is found in every province and state except for Hawaii, and also can be found in northernmost Mexico."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urtica_dioica