On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 17:05:00 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy >
wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 08:37:00 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> I save tomato seeds from year to year [...]
>> Some varieties breed true, others [...]
>> with interesting results.
>>
>> [...] I got some terrific fruits
>
>Be wary of Nightshade. They look (& apparently taste) like a sweet tiny
>cherry tomato. I'm not sure how much as adult can eat, but a few can kill
>a small child, especially if not quite ripe.
>
>I thought they could interbreed with tomatoes, but I just checked and the
>concensus opinion seems to be 'unlikely'.

One of the reasons that Europe was slow to accept tomatoes, brought
from the new world, was the resemblance to "deadly nightshade."

On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:19:26 -0700, US Janet >
wrote:

>On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2021-03-07 4:06 a.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:20:08 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
>>
>>>>> I do not know if there is a variety that is naturally less bitter
>>>>> and does not required.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not grown them in years. Losing full and ready-to-harvest
>>>>> stems to a groundhog, just ticked me off too much to bother.
>>>> the stems of mine got furry with aphids and I could see I wasn't
>>>> going to win that battle.
>>>
>>> Incredible! Some people don't like being near gardening, though. If
>>> anyone gets bitten or electrocuted by an eel or something, it kinda
>>> has a repel effect from then on.
>>>
>>I had a good sized vegetable garden when I first moved here. One day I
>>was down on my hands and knees pulling weeds by hand and discovered
>>stinging nettles. Holy carp. It felt like I had stuck my hand into a
>>hornet nest. It didn't turn me off gardening completely, but It sure
>>left a bad imnpression on me. Now I make sure to wear gloves.
>
>leather or plastic type gloves only. The cloth gloves will let the
>pokey parts through and into your hand. There are gloves out now that
>have cloth backs and protected palms, those are the best.
>Janet US

I use cheapie disposable nitrile type gloves for many garden tasks-
weeding, potting, etc, but for serious shrub or rose work, I use heavy
duty leather garden gloves that Costco used to carry in a 3-pair pack.

Nothing protects against those nasty Knockout roses, though. They look
great all summer, but those thorns will pop through damn near
anything.

On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 12:50:51 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> wrote:

>On 3/7/2021 7:37 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 05:16:07 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> If you want great tomatoes, you either have to pay really high prices
>>> or grow your own. I'm going to plant a lot of them this year, and I'm
>>> going for interesting varieties. I'm ordering from these folks.
>>> https://www.tomatofest.com/aboutus.asp
>>> They are total tomato nerds, and their prices aren't too high. Sunlight
>>> is free, and digging in soil is mentally restorative.
>>
>> I have ordered from them at times in the past. They are fine
>> suppliers.
>>
>> I save tomato seeds from year to year from varieties that have done
>> well and had interesting tastes. Some varieties breed true, others
>> have developed into variants of their own, often with interesting
>> results.
>>
>> I do grow a lot of cherry/smaller type fruits, too, as I live next to
>> 150 acres of wood and get more than my fair share of predators. If I
>> grow smaller fruits, I generally get to keep some for harvest. Larger,
>> beefsteak sorts can produce few enough fruits that a bunch of
>> chipmunks, raccoons and groundhogs can end them altogether.
>>
>> Last year I bought a small container of "heirloom" and unusual
>> cherries of all colors, shapes and sizes. I over ripened a dozen or so
>> of them, harvested the seed, and planted them in seed pots. I got some
>> terrific fruits as the season went on..
>>
>There's an area where we camp where there's a little clearing.
>It's small, but the northern edge of it should get plenty of
>sunlight for tomatoes. The "soil" there is basically just rock,
>but this Spring we're going out there with pick, mattock and
>shovel, and a few bags of topsoil to clear an area to start
>these.
>http://yougrowgirl.com/tomatoes-wort...white-currant/

Not sure I have ever seen these, although I have often had tiny
yellow, and little reds we you describe below.

>I've grown red currants before. I'd also like to put one
>oddball out there to get x pollinated by the currant.
>Maybe this.
>https://www.tomatofest.com/Blue_Berr...p/tf-0070e.htm
>
>Anyway, I figure that if I get the white currants growing there,
>they'll self seed every year. We've already put some tame
>blackberries in out there right next to the ones that have been
>there for ages.

Tomato volunteers are wonderful. I let fruit drops stay in the beds
and tubs at the end of the season and get some lovely surprises the
following spring.

On 07/03/2021 17:19, US Janet wrote:

> leather or plastic type gloves only. The cloth gloves will let the
> pokey parts through and into your hand. There are gloves out now that
> have cloth backs and protected palms, those are the best.
> Janet US
>
I was once badly stung by nettles, through a thick pair of jeans. Not an
experience I want to repeat. I now wear taller welly boots.

On 3/7/2021 11:05 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 07/03/2021 17:19, US Janet wrote:
>
>> leather or plastic type gloves only. The cloth gloves will let the
>> pokey parts through and into your hand. There are gloves out now that
>> have cloth backs and protected palms, those are the best.
>> Janet US
>>
> I was once badly stung by nettles, through a thick pair of jeans. Not an
> experience I want to repeat. I now wear taller welly boots.
>


Ditto! It took a couple days for the fire to stop.

On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 13:59:31 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:19:26 -0700, US Janet >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>

snip
>>>>
>>>I had a good sized vegetable garden when I first moved here. One day I
>>>was down on my hands and knees pulling weeds by hand and discovered
>>>stinging nettles. Holy carp. It felt like I had stuck my hand into a
>>>hornet nest. It didn't turn me off gardening completely, but It sure
>>>left a bad imnpression on me. Now I make sure to wear gloves.
>>
>>leather or plastic type gloves only. The cloth gloves will let the
>>pokey parts through and into your hand. There are gloves out now that
>>have cloth backs and protected palms, those are the best.
>>Janet US
>
>I use cheapie disposable nitrile type gloves for many garden tasks-
>weeding, potting, etc, but for serious shrub or rose work, I use heavy
>duty leather garden gloves that Costco used to carry in a 3-pair pack.
>
>Nothing protects against those nasty Knockout roses, though. They look
>great all summer, but those thorns will pop through damn near
>anything.

Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
getting some.
Janet US

On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:56:49 -0700, US Janet >
wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 13:59:31 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:19:26 -0700, US Janet >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>>
>
>snip
>>>>>
>>>>I had a good sized vegetable garden when I first moved here. One day I
>>>>was down on my hands and knees pulling weeds by hand and discovered
>>>>stinging nettles. Holy carp. It felt like I had stuck my hand into a
>>>>hornet nest. It didn't turn me off gardening completely, but It sure
>>>>left a bad imnpression on me. Now I make sure to wear gloves.
>>>
>>>leather or plastic type gloves only. The cloth gloves will let the
>>>pokey parts through and into your hand. There are gloves out now that
>>>have cloth backs and protected palms, those are the best.
>>>Janet US
>>
>>I use cheapie disposable nitrile type gloves for many garden tasks-
>>weeding, potting, etc, but for serious shrub or rose work, I use heavy
>>duty leather garden gloves that Costco used to carry in a 3-pair pack.
>>
>>Nothing protects against those nasty Knockout roses, though. They look
>>great all summer, but those thorns will pop through damn near
>>anything.
>
>Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
>getting some.
>Janet US


I do like all the blooms, but the darn things can draw blood pretty
easily. I once pruned them wearing welder gloves.

On 2021-03-07 4:32 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:56:49 -0700, US Janet >
ything.
>>
>> Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
>> getting some.
>> Janet US
>
>
> I do like all the blooms, but the darn things can draw blood pretty
> easily. I once pruned them wearing welder gloves.
>
What is that low lying purplish shrub/ground cover that is covered
in thorns. When I see stuff like that growing on people's lawns I wonder
wtf they were thinking when they allowed that invasive crap on their
property.


I have an ongoing war with wild roses here. That stuff grows along the
road allowance that runs alongside out house, but thank goodness only
further back in the lane to the woods. I go back several times a year
to cut it back, but the severe pruning seems to serve only to make it
grow back even longer and denser. I think maybe this year I will attack
it with Round up, or pour old engine oil on it.

On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 18:12:34 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-03-07 4:32 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:56:49 -0700, US Janet >
>ything.
>>>
>>> Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
>>> getting some.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>
>> I do like all the blooms, but the darn things can draw blood pretty
>> easily. I once pruned them wearing welder gloves.
>>
> What is that low lying purplish shrub/ground cover that is covered
>in thorns. When I see stuff like that growing on people's lawns I wonder
>wtf they were thinking when they allowed that invasive crap on their
>property.

I do not know what that is. Any link to a pic?
>
>
>I have an ongoing war with wild roses here. That stuff grows along the
>road allowance that runs alongside out house, but thank goodness only
>further back in the lane to the woods. I go back several times a year
>to cut it back, but the severe pruning seems to serve only to make it
>grow back even longer and denser. I think maybe this year I will attack
>it with Round up, or pour old engine oil on it.

I used to have one way by the back fence and another one tangled in
some holly up front. It took years to get rid of them. Hate the
things.

On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 5:12:50 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-07 4:32 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> > On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:56:49 -0700, US Janet >
> ything.
> >>
> >> Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
> >> getting some.
> >> Janet US
> >
> >
> > I do like all the blooms, but the darn things can draw blood pretty
> > easily. I once pruned them wearing welder gloves.
> >
> What is that low lying purplish shrub/ground cover that is covered
> in thorns. When I see stuff like that growing on people's lawns I wonder
> wtf they were thinking when they allowed that invasive crap on their
> property.
>
>
> I have an ongoing war with wild roses here. That stuff grows along the
> road allowance that runs alongside out house, but thank goodness only
> further back in the lane to the woods. I go back several times a year
> to cut it back, but the severe pruning seems to serve only to make it
> grow back even longer and denser. I think maybe this year I will attack
> it with Round up, or pour old engine oil on it.
>
You should NEVER use "old engine oil" as a defoliant. A robust lawn mower
is the best way to destroy wild roses. The first year you need to use a lopper
for the woody canes, but then you stay on top of them with mowing the
emergent shoots. If they can't produce leaves, the corms will die. The new
growth shoots mow down easily.

--Bryan

On 2021-03-07 8:14 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 5:12:50 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-07 4:32 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:56:49 -0700, US Janet
>>> >
>> ything.
>>>>
>>>> Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
>>>> getting some. Janet US
>>>
>>>
>>> I do like all the blooms, but the darn things can draw blood
>>> pretty easily. I once pruned them wearing welder gloves.
>>>
>> What is that low lying purplish shrub/ground cover that is covered
>> in thorns. When I see stuff like that growing on people's lawns I
>> wonder wtf they were thinking when they allowed that invasive crap
>> on their property.
>>
>>
>> I have an ongoing war with wild roses here. That stuff grows along
>> the road allowance that runs alongside out house, but thank
>> goodness only further back in the lane to the woods. I go back
>> several times a year to cut it back, but the severe pruning seems
>> to serve only to make it grow back even longer and denser. I think
>> maybe this year I will attack it with Round up, or pour old engine
>> oil on it.
>>
> You should NEVER use "old engine oil" as a defoliant. A robust lawn
> mower is the best way to destroy wild roses. The first year you need
> to use a lopper for the woody canes, but then you stay on top of them
> with mowing the emergent shoots. If they can't produce leaves, the
> corms will die. The new growth shoots mow down easily.
>

These are along the trail that we walk the dog every day. It is a mile
long trail and some of them are on embankments. I have no intention of
dragging a lawn mower that far back. Maybe I can talk my neighbour into
going back there with his small tractor and orchard mower, or the bucket
on his front end loader.

On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 6:48:32 PM UTC-6, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 18:12:34 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2021-03-07 4:32 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:56:49 -0700, US Janet >
> >ything.
> >>>
> >>> Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
> >>> getting some.
> >>> Janet US
> >>
> >>
> >> I do like all the blooms, but the darn things can draw blood pretty
> >> easily. I once pruned them wearing welder gloves.
> >>
> > What is that low lying purplish shrub/ground cover that is covered
> >in thorns. When I see stuff like that growing on people's lawns I wonder
> >wtf they were thinking when they allowed that invasive crap on their
> >property.
> I do not know what that is. Any link to a pic?
> >
> >
> >I have an ongoing war with wild roses here. That stuff grows along the
> >road allowance that runs alongside out house, but thank goodness only
> >further back in the lane to the woods. I go back several times a year
> >to cut it back, but the severe pruning seems to serve only to make it
> >grow back even longer and denser. I think maybe this year I will attack
> >it with Round up, or pour old engine oil on it.
> I used to have one way by the back fence and another one tangled in
> some holly up front. It took years to get rid of them. Hate the
> things.
>
If you don't have a lot of deer, try replacing the thorny roses with thornless
blackberries, the manually cut any thorny canes to the ground any time
they emerge.

--Bryan

On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 17:21:58 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 6:48:32 PM UTC-6, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 18:12:34 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On 2021-03-07 4:32 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:56:49 -0700, US Janet >
>> >ything.
>> >>>
>> >>> Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
>> >>> getting some.
>> >>> Janet US
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I do like all the blooms, but the darn things can draw blood pretty
>> >> easily. I once pruned them wearing welder gloves.
>> >>
>> > What is that low lying purplish shrub/ground cover that is covered
>> >in thorns. When I see stuff like that growing on people's lawns I wonder
>> >wtf they were thinking when they allowed that invasive crap on their
>> >property.
>> I do not know what that is. Any link to a pic?
>> >
>> >
>> >I have an ongoing war with wild roses here. That stuff grows along the
>> >road allowance that runs alongside out house, but thank goodness only
>> >further back in the lane to the woods. I go back several times a year
>> >to cut it back, but the severe pruning seems to serve only to make it
>> >grow back even longer and denser. I think maybe this year I will attack
>> >it with Round up, or pour old engine oil on it.
>> I used to have one way by the back fence and another one tangled in
>> some holly up front. It took years to get rid of them. Hate the
>> things.
>>
>If you don't have a lot of deer, try replacing the thorny roses with thornless
>blackberries, the manually cut any thorny canes to the ground any time
>they emerge.
>
>--Bryan

We have more deer than I am happy with. They will even eat the
knock-out roses, thorns and all. They did not seem to care for the
wild rose, as was entwined with the holly and the other greenery near
by seemed more appealing.

I do have thornless blackberries growing decently in the rear yard
already, along with some evil wineberries that are covered in thorns
and quite invasive.

On 3/7/2021 8:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-07 8:14 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 5:12:50 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-07 4:32 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:56:49 -0700, US Janet
>>>> >
>>> ything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
>>>>> getting some. Janet US
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do like all the blooms, but the darn things can draw blood
>>>> pretty easily. I once pruned them wearing welder gloves.
>>>>
>>> What is that low lying purplish shrub/ground cover that is covered in
>>> thorns. When I see stuff like that growing on people's lawns I
>>> wonder wtf they were thinking when they allowed that invasive crap
>>> on their property.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have an ongoing war with wild roses here. That stuff grows along
>>> the road allowance that runs alongside out house, but thank
>>> goodness only further back in the lane to the woods. I go back
>>> several times a year to cut it back, but the severe pruning seems
>>> to serve only to make it grow back even longer and denser. I think
>>> maybe this year I will attack it with Round up, or pour old engine
>>> oil on it.
>>>
>> You should NEVER use "old engine oil" as a defoliant.Â* A robust lawn
>> mower is the best way to destroy wild roses.Â* The first year you need
>> to use a lopper for the woody canes, but then you stay on top of them
>> with mowing the emergent shoots.Â* If they can't produce leaves, the
>> corms will die.Â* The new growth shoots mow down easily.
>>
>
> These are along the trail that we walk the dog every day. It is a mile
> long trail and some of them are on embankments. I have no intention of
> dragging a lawn mower that far back. Maybe I can talk my neighbour into
> going back there with his small tractor and orchard mower, or the bucket
> on his front end loader.
>

I know someone that used old engine oil like that around his property.
Not sure how much but for a few years. Contaminated his well.

On 07/03/2021 13:46, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 07/03/2021 13:34, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 06/03/2021 18:36, S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 06/03/2021 18:23, Bruce wrote:
>>>> Kale must be (or must once have been) as popular in Scotland as in the
>>>> Netherlands.
>>> It's still popular! In fact, I have a packet of seeds here, ready for
>>> planting soon.
>>
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Â*Â* Same here))
>
> That reminds me - I found a UK source for those 'Purple Magnolia Snap
> Peas' I mentioned recently - Kings Seeds in Colchester. Also available
> on Amazon.
> Packet of 150 seeds for £2.45.
>
> They are pretty when growing, attractive on the plate, and even my
> daughter who dislikes ordinary peas, thinks they're tasty.

=====

Thanks very much I'll have a wee look)

On 07/03/2021 17:05, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 08:37:00 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> I save tomato seeds from year to year [...]
>> Some varieties breed true, others [...]
>> with interesting results.
>>
>> [...] I got some terrific fruits
>
> Be wary of Nightshade. They look (& apparently taste) like a sweet tiny
> cherry tomato. I'm not sure how much as adult can eat, but a few can kill
> a small child, especially if not quite ripe.
>
> I thought they could interbreed with tomatoes, but I just checked and the
> concensus opinion seems to be 'unlikely'.
>

Very good to know, thanks!!

On 07/03/2021 17:21, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 3/7/2021 9:07 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> stinging nettles.
>>
>> Where? I thought that was a European problem.
>>
>
>
> Northern California Coast has plenty of them.Â* Of course, to those in
> tune with mother nature, they are often found in close proximity to
> curly dock, which is an antidote of some sort.

==

Yes We were taught that as childen. We had plenty of those where
I lived. If you get stung, rub it with Dock leaves)

On 07/03/2021 19:05, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 07/03/2021 17:19, US Janet wrote:
>
>> leather or plastic type gloves only.Â* The cloth gloves will let the
>> pokey parts through and into your hand.Â* There are gloves out now that
>> have cloth backs and protected palms, those are the best.
>> Janet US
>>
> I was once badly stung by nettles, through a thick pair of jeans. Not an
> experience I want to repeat. I now wear taller welly boots.
>
====

Or let your husband do the job when he is there

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:56:49 -0700, US Janet >
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 13:59:31 -0500, Boron Elgar
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:19:26 -0700, US Janet >
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 10:02:43 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >
> >snip
> >>>>>
> >>>>I had a good sized vegetable garden when I first moved here. One day I
> >>>>was down on my hands and knees pulling weeds by hand and discovered
> >>>>stinging nettles. Holy carp. It felt like I had stuck my hand into a
> >>>>hornet nest. It didn't turn me off gardening completely, but It sure
> >>>>left a bad imnpression on me. Now I make sure to wear gloves.
> >>>
> >>>leather or plastic type gloves only. The cloth gloves will let the
> >>>pokey parts through and into your hand. There are gloves out now that
> >>>have cloth backs and protected palms, those are the best.
> >>>Janet US
> >>
> >>I use cheapie disposable nitrile type gloves for many garden tasks-
> >>weeding, potting, etc, but for serious shrub or rose work, I use heavy
> >>duty leather garden gloves that Costco used to carry in a 3-pair pack.
> >>
> >>Nothing protects against those nasty Knockout roses, though. They look
> >>great all summer, but those thorns will pop through damn near
> >>anything.
> >
> >Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
> >getting some.
> >Janet US
>
>
> I do like all the blooms, but the darn things can draw blood pretty
> easily. I once pruned them wearing welder gloves.

I took a look for the Knockout family, "not available in UK". But
they look as if there's some rosa rugosa and/or persica genes in that
family, rugos a would certainly account for the thorns. Do you know what
they were bred from?

Janet UK

On 08/03/2021 01:14, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 5:12:50 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-07 4:32 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:56:49 -0700, US Janet >
>> ything.
>>>>
>>>> Knock Out Roses are mean? I didn't know and was thinking about
>>>> getting some.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>
>>> I do like all the blooms, but the darn things can draw blood pretty
>>> easily. I once pruned them wearing welder gloves.
>>>
>> What is that low lying purplish shrub/ground cover that is covered
>> in thorns. When I see stuff like that growing on people's lawns I wonder
>> wtf they were thinking when they allowed that invasive crap on their
>> property.
>>
>>
>> I have an ongoing war with wild roses here. That stuff grows along the
>> road allowance that runs alongside out house, but thank goodness only
>> further back in the lane to the woods. I go back several times a year
>> to cut it back, but the severe pruning seems to serve only to make it
>> grow back even longer and denser. I think maybe this year I will attack
>> it with Round up, or pour old engine oil on it.
>>
> You should NEVER use "old engine oil" as a defoliant. A robust lawn mower
> is the best way to destroy wild roses. The first year you need to use a lopper
> for the woody canes, but then you stay on top of them with mowing the
> emergent shoots. If they can't produce leaves, the corms will die. The new
> growth shoots mow down easily.
>
> --Bryan

====

HUH, even I know that!! And he calls 'me' brainless LOL


>

On 08/03/2021 11:57, Ophelia wrote:
> On 07/03/2021 19:05, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 07/03/2021 17:19, US Janet wrote:
>>
>>> leather or plastic type gloves only.Â* The cloth gloves will let the
>>> pokey parts through and into your hand.Â* There are gloves out now that
>>> have cloth backs and protected palms, those are the best.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> I was once badly stung by nettles, through a thick pair of jeans. Not
>> an experience I want to repeat. I now wear taller welly boots.
>>
> ====
>
> Â*Or let your husband do the job when he is there

When he can finally travel here, he'll be doing the rest of the taping,
filling, and painting in our garage conversion - it seems that needs
doing before we get the final OK from the building inspector. The
inspector seemed happy with what he saw when he dropped by, but it still
needs finishing off.
He's good at that stuff - I've tried, and I'm rubbish at it.

So I'll be the one dealing with nettles, gorse, brambles, wild roses,
and overgrown rhododendrons and leylandii.

On 2021-03-07 11:25 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/7/2021 8:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> These are along the trail that we walk the dog every day. It is a mile
>> long trail and some of them are on embankments. I have no intention of
>> dragging a lawn mower that far back. Maybe I can talk my neighbour
>> into going back there with his small tractor and orchard mower, or the
>> bucket on his front end loader.
>>
>
> I know someone that used old engine oil like that around his property.
> Not sure how much but for a few years.Â*Â* Contaminated his well.

I imagine you would have to use a lot of it in a small area to
contaminate a well. These nasty plants start a couple hundred yards past
the end of our property and are growing wild along the trail. I tried
cutting them back but that just seems to make them grow stronger.

On 3/8/2021 6:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-07 11:25 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 3/7/2021 8:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> These are along the trail that we walk the dog every day. It is a mile
>>> long trail and some of them are on embankments. I have no intention of
>>> dragging a lawn mower that far back. Maybe I can talk my neighbour
>>> into going back there with his small tractor and orchard mower, or the
>>> bucket on his front end loader.
>>>
>>
>> I know someone that used old engine oil like that around his property.
>> Not sure how much but for a few years.Â*Â* Contaminated his well.
>
> I imagine you would have to use a lot of it in a small area to
> contaminate a well. These nasty plants start a couple hundred yards past
> the end of our property and are growing wild along the trail. I tried
> cutting them back but that just seems to make them grow stronger.
>


Goats are your friend.

Boron Elgar wrote:
> We have more deer than I am happy with.

That's a problem easily solved if you like venison and have a rifle and
a hunting license.

On 08/03/2021 13:21, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 08/03/2021 11:57, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 07/03/2021 19:05, S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 07/03/2021 17:19, US Janet wrote:
>>>
>>>> leather or plastic type gloves only.Â* The cloth gloves will let the
>>>> pokey parts through and into your hand.Â* There are gloves out now that
>>>> have cloth backs and protected palms, those are the best.
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> I was once badly stung by nettles, through a thick pair of jeans. Not
>>> an experience I want to repeat. I now wear taller welly boots.
>>>
>> ====
>>
>> Â*Â*Or let your husband do the job when he is there
>
> When he can finally travel here, he'll be doing the rest of the taping,
> filling, and painting in our garage conversion - it seems that needs
> doing before we get the final OK from the building inspector. The
> inspector seemed happy with what he saw when he dropped by, but it still
> needs finishing off.
> He's good at that stuff - I've tried, and I'm rubbish at it.
>
> So I'll be the one dealing with nettles, gorse, brambles, wild roses,
> and overgrown rhododendrons and leylandii.


----

Aye! It won't last forever!! Fingers crossed! You will be so happy
when he get's there))

On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 06:25:20 -0800, Taxed and Spent wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:

>>

> Goats are your friend.

But how does Dave keep the goats concentrated on the thorn-bushes? He
said [...] a couple hundred yards past the end of our property.

Those Marxist Canadians probably have laws about non-tethered pets, etc.

On 3/8/2021 7:28 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 06:25:20 -0800, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>>
>
>> Goats are your friend.
>
> But how does Dave keep the goats concentrated on the thorn-bushes? He
> said [...] a couple hundred yards past the end of our property.
>


Italian Salad Dressing?

On 08/03/2021 15:28, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 06:25:20 -0800, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>>
>
>> Goats are your friend.
>
> But how does Dave keep the goats concentrated on the thorn-bushes? He
> said [...] a couple hundred yards past the end of our property.
>
> Those Marxist Canadians probably have laws about non-tethered pets, etc.

===

<g>

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:31:16 AM UTC-5, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 3/8/2021 7:28 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> > On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 06:25:20 -0800, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >
> >> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >
> >> Goats are your friend.
> >
> > But how does Dave keep the goats concentrated on the thorn-bushes? He
> > said [...] a couple hundred yards past the end of our property.
> >
> Italian Salad Dressing?

Great stuff to replace BBQ sauce with.

On 3/8/2021 10:54 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:31:16 AM UTC-5, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 3/8/2021 7:28 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 06:25:20 -0800, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> Goats are your friend.
>>>
>>> But how does Dave keep the goats concentrated on the thorn-bushes? He
>>> said [...] a couple hundred yards past the end of our property.
>>>
>> Italian Salad Dressing?
>
> Great stuff to replace BBQ sauce with.
>

The goats eat the Salad Dressing. We eat the goats with BBQ sauce.

Ophelia wrote:
> On 07/03/2021 13:46, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 07/03/2021 13:34, Ophelia wrote:
>>> On 06/03/2021 18:36, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> On 06/03/2021 18:23, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> Kale must be (or must once have been) as popular in Scotland
>>>>> as in the
>>>>> Netherlands.
>>>> It's still popular! In fact, I have a packet of seeds here,
>>>> ready for planting soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Â*Â* Same here))
>>
>> That reminds me - I found a UK source for those 'Purple Magnolia
>> Snap Peas' I mentioned recently - Kings Seeds in Colchester. Also
>> available on Amazon.
>> Packet of 150 seeds for £2.45.
>>
>> They are pretty when growing, attractive on the plate, and even
>> my daughter who dislikes ordinary peas, thinks they're tasty.
>
> =====
>
> * Thanks very much* I'll have a wee look)

Why not wait til after you wee?

On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 11:05:54 +0000, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 07/03/2021 13:46, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 07/03/2021 13:34, Ophelia wrote:
>>> On 06/03/2021 18:36, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> On 06/03/2021 18:23, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> Kale must be (or must once have been) as popular in Scotland as in the
>>>>> Netherlands.
>>>> It's still popular! In fact, I have a packet of seeds here, ready for
>>>> planting soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> ** Same here))
>>
>> That reminds me - I found a UK source for those 'Purple Magnolia Snap
>> Peas' I mentioned recently - Kings Seeds in Colchester. Also available
>> on Amazon.
>> Packet of 150 seeds for £2.45.
>>
>> They are pretty when growing, attractive on the plate, and even my
>> daughter who dislikes ordinary peas, thinks they're tasty.
>
>=====
>
> Thanks very much I'll have a wee look)

Would Sheila allow you to watch that?? :-(

John Kuthe, perfect citizen...

On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> I had nettle bread once.

It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
It´s a joke, folks.

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
> (in >):
>
> > I had nettle bread once.
>
> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
> It´s a joke, folks.

That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on this rock. My daughter got a box of products that was mailed from Arizona.. There was a shocking brown caterpillar hitching a ride inside the box. What was shocking was it was nearly 5 inches long. We don't have any big caterpillars on this rock. We let it go on the plants outside. Hopefully, we won't be seeing that critter again. It's so creepy!

On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 22:00:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>> > I had nettle bread once.
>>
>> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
>> It´s a joke, folks.
>
>That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on this rock. My daughter got a box of products that was mailed from Arizona. There was a shocking brown caterpillar hitching a ride inside the box. What was shocking was it was nearly 5 inches long. We don't have any big caterpillars on this rock. We let it
go on the plants outside. Hopefully, we won't be seeing that critter again. It's so creepy!

It was pregnant and now they're spreading in Hawaii.

--
The real Bruce posts with Eternal September

On 2021 Mar 8, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on
> this rock. My daughter got a box of products that was mailed from Arizona.
> There was a shocking brown caterpillar hitching a ride inside the box. What
> was shocking was it was nearly 5 inches long. We don't have any big
> caterpillars on this rock. We let it go on the plants outside. Hopefully, we
> won't be seeing that critter again. It's so creepy!

That was kind of you but possibly bad for Hawaii. Hopefully, it won't
metamorphose into the "Angel of Instant Agony and Unspeakable Death"
moth. They´re common in Arizona.

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:11:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 22:00:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> wrote:
> >On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> >> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
> >> (in >):
> >>
> >> > I had nettle bread once.
> >>
> >> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
> >> It´s a joke, folks.
> >
> >That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on this rock. My daughter got a box of products that was mailed from Arizona. There was a shocking brown caterpillar hitching a ride inside the box. What was shocking was it was nearly 5 inches long. We don't have any big caterpillars on this rock. We let it
> go on the plants outside. Hopefully, we won't be seeing that critter again. It's so creepy!
> It was pregnant and now they're spreading in Hawaii.
>
> --
> The real Bruce posts with Eternal September

I don't know nothing about no pregnant worms. Perhaps I'll go out there with my flashlight tonight and hunt that basterd down.

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:28:11 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Mar 8, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
> > That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on
> > this rock. My daughter got a box of products that was mailed from Arizona.
> > There was a shocking brown caterpillar hitching a ride inside the box. What
> > was shocking was it was nearly 5 inches long. We don't have any big
> > caterpillars on this rock. We let it go on the plants outside. Hopefully, we
> > won't be seeing that critter again. It's so creepy!
> That was kind of you but possibly bad for Hawaii. Hopefully, it won't
> metamorphose into the "Angel of Instant Agony and Unspeakable Death"
> moth. They´re common in Arizona.

Now you got me worried. We should have thrown that ugly bug into a herd of parking lot chickens that hang around here. That would have been a terrible sight with bug guts flying around in chicken frenzy but such is the savagery of the natural world.

On 09/03/2021 06:28, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Mar 8, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
>
>> That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on
>> this rock. My daughter got a box of products that was mailed from Arizona.
>> There was a shocking brown caterpillar hitching a ride inside the box. What
>> was shocking was it was nearly 5 inches long. We don't have any big
>> caterpillars on this rock. We let it go on the plants outside. Hopefully, we
>> won't be seeing that critter again. It's so creepy!
>
> That was kind of you but possibly bad for Hawaii. Hopefully, it won't
> metamorphose into the "Angel of Instant Agony and Unspeakable Death"
> moth. They´re common in Arizona.
===

Oh hear!

On 09/03/2021 06:36, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:11:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 22:00:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:21:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>>>> On 2021 Mar 7, , Bruce wrote
>>>> (in >):
>>>>
>>>>> I had nettle bread once.
>>>>
>>>> It didn´t do its job. You´re still with us. Bad baker.
>>>> It´s a joke, folks.
>>>
>>> That stinging nettle plant seems pretty nasty. I'm glad we don't have any on this rock. My daughter got a box of products that was mailed from Arizona. There was a shocking brown caterpillar hitching a ride inside the box. What was shocking was it was nearly 5 inches long. We don't have any big caterpillars on this rock. We let it
>> go on the plants outside. Hopefully, we won't be seeing that critter again. It's so creepy!
>> It was pregnant and now they're spreading in Hawaii.
>>
>> --
>> The real Bruce posts with Eternal September
>
> I don't know nothing about no pregnant worms. Perhaps I'll go out there with my flashlight tonight and hunt that basterd down.
>

==

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