My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free. Gluten free baking
sure has changed since when I used to make it. Now you can buy "Cup for Cup"
flour that can be subbed for AP flour in your favorite recipes. I no longer
have to buy 4 or 6 different flours and Xanthan Gum and other things to
concoct my own flour mixes. And I no longer have to use special recipes. Not
sure about the pretzels though. The recipe on the KA website says to use a
bath of much more water than I would normally use, a much smaller amount of
baking soda and some sugar. I do remember making GF bagels and putting them
in a sugar bath but the end result was nothing like a wheat bagel.

Anyway... I made zucchini bread which IMO is the best GF bread there is. I
think because there is so much in it that you can't tell it is GF. I also
made cottage cheese bread. I wound up having an extra container of cottage
cheese that expired today. That recipe was super easy. Cottage cheese, eggs,
sugar, flour, walnuts an baking soda. I did add cinnamon and ginger because
he loves those flavors. And I brushed melted butter over the top and sides.

I did not have three medium sized eggs as the recipe called for. I had large
eggs. Two was not enough. I added three. I also had to add more cottage
cheese and even some water as the dough was too dry. I realize that
different brands of cottage cheese have different amounts of moisture. I
have the Alpenrose brand which is on the drier side. The loaf was done at
the recommended bake time.

The zucchini bread was far too most for some reason. I had to bake it a lot
longer than called for but both look and smell very good. I can't try them
as they contain eggs but he sure seems to like them!

On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.

So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?


>Gluten free
> baking sure has changed since when I used to make it. Now you can buy
> "Cup for Cup" flour that can be subbed for AP flour in your favorite
> recipes. I no longer have to buy 4 or 6 different flours and Xanthan Gum
> and other things to concoct my own flour mixes.

I sure as hell wouldn't ever have bothered. Good thing they came out
with a single product, eh?

> And I no longer have to use special recipes.

Whew! But not really.
(snippage)

Thanks. I know how to make zucchini bread and it doesn't need to be
gluten free. Don't care about anything called cottage cheese bread.
Or, did I already mention? gluten free.

Jill

On 2019-04-17 7:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>
> So we've heard.Â* I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
> cater to this guy and his whims.Â* Are you that terribly in need of
> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?

You are assuming that there really is a gardiner.

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 6:53:38 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>
> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>
> Jill
>
Maybe her vibrator finally blew up.

On 4/17/2019 8:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-04-17 7:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>
>> So we've heard.Â* I still don't know why you're bending over backwards
>> to cater to this guy and his whims.Â* Are you that terribly in need of
>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>
> You are assuming that there really is a gardiner.

If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.

On 2019-04-17 10:55 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/17/2019 8:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-04-17 7:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>>
>>> So we've heard.Â* I still don't know why you're bending over backwards
>>> to cater to this guy and his whims.Â* Are you that terribly in need of
>>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>
>> You are assuming that there really is a gardiner.
>
> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.

It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>
> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?

Of course you don't know because it's not in you to do such things. When I
cook for people, I go out of my way to cook what they like and/or need to
eat. I am that way with everyone. It's just how I am.

I am not terribly in need of anything. I dwell in abuncance here.

Angela will be coming for Easter. I am making turkey, ham, a Gordon Ramsey
potato recipe and crescent rolls. She likes them. I could live without them.
Need to try to find some similar bread recipe that is GF. If not, I'll just
make or buy some bread. I'm going to let her pick the vegetable or
vegetables and some ice cream for dessert. If she chooses something that he
can't eat or doesn't like, I will get a container for him. I know what he
likes.
>
>
>>Gluten free baking sure has changed since when I used to make it. Now you
>>can buy "Cup for Cup" flour that can be subbed for AP flour in your
>>favorite recipes. I no longer have to buy 4 or 6 different flours and
>>Xanthan Gum and other things to concoct my own flour mixes.
>
> I sure as hell wouldn't ever have bothered. Good thing they came out with
> a single product, eh?
>
>> And I no longer have to use special recipes.
>
> Whew! But not really.
> (snippage)
>
> Thanks. I know how to make zucchini bread and it doesn't need to be
> gluten free. Don't care about anything called cottage cheese bread. Or,
> did I already mention? gluten free.

The original recipe was not GF. But whatever.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-04-17 7:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>
>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
>> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>
> You are assuming that there really is a gardiner.

Hahaha. He is banging away on something outside right now.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/17/2019 8:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-04-17 7:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>>
>>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
>>> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
>>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>
>> You are assuming that there really is a gardiner.
>
> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.

He is handy in all sorts of ways!

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 6:53:38 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>
>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
>> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Maybe her vibrator finally blew up.

You think I have only one?

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:12:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>
>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
>> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>
>Of course you don't know because it's not in you to do such things. When I
>cook for people, I go out of my way to cook what they like and/or need to
>eat. I am that way with everyone. It's just how I am.
>
>I am not terribly in need of anything. I dwell in abuncance here.

Maybe Jill's jealous because her long distance relationship with a
married man came to an end?

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.
>
GUFFAW!!!

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.
>>
>GUFFAW!!!

Not funny at all. Just 2 embarrassing old people.

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 11:47:58 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.
> >>
> >GUFFAW!!!
>
> Not funny at all. Just 2 embarrassing old people.
>
Prude.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:12:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>>
>>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
>>> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
>>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>
>>Of course you don't know because it's not in you to do such things. When I
>>cook for people, I go out of my way to cook what they like and/or need to
>>eat. I am that way with everyone. It's just how I am.
>>
>>I am not terribly in need of anything. I dwell in abuncance here.
>
> Maybe Jill's jealous because her long distance relationship with a
> married man came to an end?

Oh wow!

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 7:53:38 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>
> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>

I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.

At least she's talking about cooking.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.
> At least she's talking about cooking.

She's a nice person. Her odd posts often warrant teasing, but not
the mean bullying that she constantly gets.

Same with John Kuthe. Damn loose cannon there. Tease him but no
need to constantly bully him. He's a nice fellow too, imo.

On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.
> > At least she's talking about cooking.
>
> She's a nice person. Her odd posts often warrant teasing, but not
> the mean bullying that she constantly gets.

Probably not the bullying, but she's the most incurious person
I've ever met. I've hammered on her a few times for being
unwilling to learn about stuff.

> Same with John Kuthe. Damn loose cannon there. Tease him but no
> need to constantly bully him. He's a nice fellow too, imo.

Yes, he was really nice when he called me a bitch.

I didn't take it personally, of course, because he's mentally ill.

Cindy Hamilton

On 4/18/2019 1:13 AM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 11:47:58 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.
>>>>
>>> GUFFAW!!!
>>
>> Not funny at all. Just 2 embarrassing old people.
>>
> Prude.
>

I guess Bruce does not appreciate this form of art that I spoke of
https://topiarytree.net/

On 4/18/2019 9:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.
>>> At least she's talking about cooking.
>>
>> She's a nice person. Her odd posts often warrant teasing, but not
>> the mean bullying that she constantly gets.
>
> Probably not the bullying, but she's the most incurious person
> I've ever met. I've hammered on her a few times for being
> unwilling to learn about stuff.
>

Since her divorce, Julies has changed a bit though, for the better. She
is more likely to say something when attacked and has a pretty good
sense of humor. Good for her! We all have our quirks, but Julie is
Julie and getting better at it. And she cooks.

On 4/18/2019 9:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/18/2019 1:13 AM, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 11:47:58 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.
>>>>>
>>>> GUFFAW!!!
>>>
>>> Not funny at all. Just 2 embarrassing old people.
>>>
>> Prude.
>>
>
> I guess Bruce does not appreciate this form of art that I spoke of
> https://topiarytree.net/
>
Bruce doesn't appreciate the double entendre. Topiaries are cool!

Jill

On 4/17/2019 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2019-04-17 7:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>>
>>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards
>>> to cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
>>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>
>> You are assuming that there really is a gardiner.
>
> Hahaha. He is banging away on something outside right now.

Hopefully not a goat!

Jill

On 4/18/2019 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:12:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>>>
>>>> So we've heard.Â* I still don't know why you're bending over
>>>> backwards to
>>>> cater to this guy and his whims.Â* Are you that terribly in need of
>>>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>>
>>> Of course you don't know because it's not in you to do such things.
>>> When I
>>> cook for people, I go out of my way to cook what they like and/or
>>> need to
>>> eat. I am that way with everyone. It's just how I am.
>>>
>>> I am not terribly in need of anything. I dwell in abuncance here.
>>
>> Maybe Jill's jealous because her long distance relationship with a
>> married man came to an end?
>
> Oh wow!

Here we go again with the married man thing...

Jill

On 4/18/2019 6:17 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 7:53:38 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>
>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
>> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>
>
> I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.
>
> At least she's talking about cooking.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Gluten free.

Jill

On 4/17/2019 11:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 6:53:38 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> > My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>>
>>> So we've heard.Â* I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
>>> cater to this guy and his whims.Â* Are you that terribly in need of
>>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> Maybe her vibrator finally blew up.
>
> You think I have only one?

At least your sense of humor is intact.

Jill

On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:28:21 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/18/2019 6:17 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 7:53:38 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
> >>
> >> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
> >> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
> >> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
> >>
> >
> > I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.
> >
> > At least she's talking about cooking.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Gluten free.

Sorry, are we not allowed to talk about gluten-free cookery? I
don't personally need to cook that way, but others might. Granted,
they'd be better off in some gluten-free chat area, but this is
Usenet after all.

If I had a buck for every recipe posted here that I'm not
interested in making, I could retire.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:29:33 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free. Gluten free baking
> sure has changed since when I used to make it. Now you can buy "Cup for Cup"
> flour that can be subbed for AP flour in your favorite recipes. I no longer
> have to buy 4 or 6 different flours and Xanthan Gum and other things to
> concoct my own flour mixes. And I no longer have to use special recipes. Not
> sure about the pretzels though. The recipe on the KA website says to use a
> bath of much more water than I would normally use, a much smaller amount of
> baking soda and some sugar. I do remember making GF bagels and putting them
> in a sugar bath but the end result was nothing like a wheat bagel.
>
> Anyway... I made zucchini bread which IMO is the best GF bread there is. I
> think because there is so much in it that you can't tell it is GF. I also
> made cottage cheese bread. I wound up having an extra container of cottage
> cheese that expired today. That recipe was super easy. Cottage cheese, eggs,
> sugar, flour, walnuts an baking soda. I did add cinnamon and ginger because
> he loves those flavors. And I brushed melted butter over the top and sides.
>
> I did not have three medium sized eggs as the recipe called for. I had large
> eggs. Two was not enough. I added three. I also had to add more cottage
> cheese and even some water as the dough was too dry. I realize that
> different brands of cottage cheese have different amounts of moisture. I
> have the Alpenrose brand which is on the drier side. The loaf was done at
> the recommended bake time.
>
> The zucchini bread was far too most for some reason. I had to bake it a lot
> longer than called for but both look and smell very good. I can't try them
> as they contain eggs but he sure seems to like them!

Unspecified flour, unknown recipe, the usual
assorted array of disconnected tangents, just to tell us your
"gardener likes it". And you've already told us he eats shit (12+
random cupboard scrapings heaped into a bowl).

Why not get a honest paying housemate (I assume he upgraded from
after a week or less) who buys their own damned gluten free flour
for $3/lb and makes their own frivolous shit or take to pica.

Weren't you just complaining about how $76K a year is "poverty"?
(I'm sure you're mistaken about that,t oo). Your money has been
free most of your life anyway. Hopefully that's 22oz bag of $5 flour
is paid for (barely) by your monthly Kmart retirement windfall. And
not with our tax dollars meant for honestly disabled people.

-sw

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:13:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>> On 4/17/2019 8:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2019-04-17 7:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>>>
>>>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
>>>> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
>>>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>>
>>> You are assuming that there really is a gardiner.
>>
>> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.
>
>He is handy in all sorts of ways!

Pruning and fertilizing. . . .

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:13:15 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 11:47:58 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.
>> >>
>> >GUFFAW!!!
>>
>> Not funny at all. Just 2 embarrassing old people.
>>
>Prude.

Obviously Bruce is the embarrasing old people.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 06:21:51 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >
>> > I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.
>> > At least she's talking about cooking.
>>
>> She's a nice person. Her odd posts often warrant teasing, but not
>> the mean bullying that she constantly gets.
>
>Probably not the bullying, but she's the most incurious person
>I've ever met. I've hammered on her a few times for being
>unwilling to learn about stuff.
>
>> Same with John Kuthe. Damn loose cannon there. Tease him but no
>> need to constantly bully him. He's a nice fellow too, imo.
>
>Yes, he was really nice when he called me a bitch.

Look at the bright side, he didn't call you his bitch. lol

On 4/18/2019 10:57 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:28:21 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/18/2019 6:17 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 7:53:38 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>>>
>>>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
>>>> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
>>>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.
>>>
>>> At least she's talking about cooking.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> Gluten free.
>
> Sorry, are we not allowed to talk about gluten-free cookery? I
> don't personally need to cook that way, but others might. Granted,
> they'd be better off in some gluten-free chat area, but this is
> Usenet after all.
>
> If I had a buck for every recipe posted here that I'm not
> interested in making, I could retire.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
You realize I didn't say we aren't allowed to talk about gluten-free.
But she has mentioned her gardener and gluten-free in other posts more
than once. So it's not a revelation. It gets old. It's like she's
bragging.

And there's always a slight hint of failure. The zucchini bread was
"too most" (moist, Julie, don't be so quick to point out others' typos)
so she had to bake it longer. Well gee, that's what anyone would do if
the bread wasn't fully cooked. Use the toothpick test in the middle.
Comes out clean, it's done. No big baking revelations there.

Cottage Cheese bread. She said, "I wound up having an extra container
of cottage cheese that expired today." Good thing she made the
expiration deadline!

Jill

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:55:36 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 4/17/2019 8:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-04-17 7:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>>
>>> So we've heard.* I still don't know why you're bending over backwards
>>> to cater to this guy and his whims.* Are you that terribly in need of
>>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>>
>> You are assuming that there really is a gardiner.
>
> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.

That's a landscaper. I knew a real gardener once. Don't ever ask
them to do landscaping or compare them to one (if they're good at
what they do).

If he's trimming any of Julies bush, that thing's gonna look like
bonsai (lots of old wood trunks and a few tiny leaves). Because I
doubt it looks like Kensington Garden.

I'm doing my once every 10 years of gardening today. Fortunately my
yard is 1/5th the size of my wooded area. I've still 120 feet of 4"
thick Vitex limbs to cut with a manual saw.

-sw

On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/18/2019 10:57 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:28:21 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 4/18/2019 6:17 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 7:53:38 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
> >>>>
> >>>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
> >>>> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
> >>>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.
> >>>
> >>> At least she's talking about cooking.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>
> >> Gluten free.
> >
> > Sorry, are we not allowed to talk about gluten-free cookery? I
> > don't personally need to cook that way, but others might. Granted,
> > they'd be better off in some gluten-free chat area, but this is
> > Usenet after all.
> >
> > If I had a buck for every recipe posted here that I'm not
> > interested in making, I could retire.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> You realize I didn't say we aren't allowed to talk about gluten-free.
> But she has mentioned her gardener and gluten-free in other posts more
> than once. So it's not a revelation. It gets old. It's like she's
> bragging.
>
> And there's always a slight hint of failure. The zucchini bread was
> "too most" (moist, Julie, don't be so quick to point out others' typos)
> so she had to bake it longer. Well gee, that's what anyone would do if
> the bread wasn't fully cooked. Use the toothpick test in the middle.
> Comes out clean, it's done. No big baking revelations there.
>
> Cottage Cheese bread. She said, "I wound up having an extra container
> of cottage cheese that expired today." Good thing she made the
> expiration deadline!
>
> Jill

Yes, it is tedious. If you want to avoid this sort of thing,
I'm afraid you have no choice but to go to Facebook or some
other moderated area.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:59:17 -0400, wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:13:15 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 11:47:58 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.
>>> >>
>>> >GUFFAW!!!
>>>
>>> Not funny at all. Just 2 embarrassing old people.
>>>
>>Prude.
>
>Obviously Bruce is the embarrasing old people.

You're almost right. Just leave out "the".

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:48:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/18/2019 10:57 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >
>> > Sorry, are we not allowed to talk about gluten-free cookery? I
>> > don't personally need to cook that way, but others might. Granted,
>> > they'd be better off in some gluten-free chat area, but this is
>> > Usenet after all.
>> >
>> > If I had a buck for every recipe posted here that I'm not
>> > interested in making, I could retire.
>> >
>> You realize I didn't say we aren't allowed to talk about gluten-free.
>> But she has mentioned her gardener and gluten-free in other posts more
>> than once. So it's not a revelation. It gets old. It's like she's
>> bragging.
>>
>> And there's always a slight hint of failure. The zucchini bread was
>> "too most" (moist, Julie, don't be so quick to point out others' typos)
>> so she had to bake it longer. Well gee, that's what anyone would do if
>> the bread wasn't fully cooked. Use the toothpick test in the middle.
>> Comes out clean, it's done. No big baking revelations there.
>>
>> Cottage Cheese bread. She said, "I wound up having an extra container
>> of cottage cheese that expired today." Good thing she made the
>> expiration deadline!
>>
>> Jill
>
>Yes, it is tedious. If you want to avoid this sort of thing,
>I'm afraid you have no choice but to go to Facebook or some
>other moderated area.

Do they ban people who bake too moist zucchni bread, on Facebook? Or
do you think they ban people who are involved in group bullying?
Hmm... hard one.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:47:20 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/18/2019 1:13 AM, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 11:47:58 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If she wants to keep the bush trimmed it is handy to have one.
>>>>>
>>>> GUFFAW!!!
>>>
>>> Not funny at all. Just 2 embarrassing old people.
>>>
>> Prude.
>>
>
>I guess Bruce does not appreciate this form of art that I spoke of
>https://topiarytree.net/

Yes, we get it, Ed. Thank you.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.
> At least she's talking about cooking.

She's a nice person. Her odd posts often warrant teasing, but not
the mean bullying that she constantly gets.

Same with John Kuthe. Damn loose cannon there. Tease him but no
need to constantly bully him. He's a nice fellow too, imo.

==

I agree! It is getting out of hand and we are becoming a group of
really nasty posters

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:12:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>>
>> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
>> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
>> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>
>Of course you don't know because it's not in you to do such things. When I
>cook for people, I go out of my way to cook what they like and/or need to
>eat. I am that way with everyone. It's just how I am.
>
>I am not terribly in need of anything. I dwell in abuncance here.

Maybe Jill's jealous because her long distance relationship with a
married man came to an end?

==

Makes you wonder ....

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 7:53:38 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/17/2019 7:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > My gardener has decided that he needs to eat gluten free.
>
> So we've heard. I still don't know why you're bending over backwards to
> cater to this guy and his whims. Are you that terribly in need of
> companionship now that you're divorced and Angela moved out?
>

I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.

At least she's talking about cooking.

Cindy Hamilton

==

Well said!

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 4/18/2019 9:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> I never thought I would say this, but let's cut Julie some slack.
>>> At least she's talking about cooking.
>>
>> She's a nice person. Her odd posts often warrant teasing, but not
>> the mean bullying that she constantly gets.
>
> Probably not the bullying, but she's the most incurious person
> I've ever met. I've hammered on her a few times for being
> unwilling to learn about stuff.
>

Since her divorce, Julies has changed a bit though, for the better. She
is more likely to say something when attacked and has a pretty good
sense of humor. Good for her! We all have our quirks, but Julie is
Julie and getting better at it. And she cooks.

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