Â* Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
.... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 17:40:08 -0600, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

> * Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
>recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
>... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
>rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
>least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
>bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !

Use water, increase the fat a bit.

On 11/26/2018 5:49 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 17:40:08 -0600, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> Â* Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
>> recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
>> ... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
>> rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
>> least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
>> bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
> Use water, increase the fat a bit.

Â* Thank you !

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 17:40:08 -0600, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
>>recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
>>... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
>>rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
>>least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
>>bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
>
> Use water, increase the fat a bit.

I also add a small amount of instant potato flakes for a lighter texture.
Like a Tablespoon for 12 biscuits.

On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 03:11:59 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

> "Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 17:40:08 -0600, Terry Coombs >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
>>>recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
>>>... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
>>>rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
>>>least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
>>>bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
>>
>> Use water, increase the fat a bit.
>
> I also add a small amount of instant potato flakes for a lighter texture.
> Like a Tablespoon for 12 biscuits.

Which would suck all the moisture out of the recipe.

-sw

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 03:11:59 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 17:40:08 -0600, Terry Coombs >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
>>>>recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
>>>>... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
>>>>rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
>>>>least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
>>>>bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
>>>
>>> Use water, increase the fat a bit.
>>
>> I also add a small amount of instant potato flakes for a lighter texture.
>> Like a Tablespoon for 12 biscuits.
>
> Which would suck all the moisture out of the recipe.

Nope. I actually don't measure the liquid. I just add it until it looks
right. So I might add a bit more than called for.

I just made corn muffins and realized after I took them out of the oven, I
forgot the oil! I did add cheese so maybe that was enough fat. The taste and
texture is the same as usual.

On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 5:37:58 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Nope. I actually don't measure the liquid. I just add it until it looks
> right. So I might add a bit more than called for.
>
> I just made corn muffins and realized after I took them out of the oven, I
> forgot the oil! I did add cheese so maybe that was enough fat. The taste and
> texture is the same as usual.

I'll add liquids to flour by eye too. I figure that I'm going to be a better judge of the amount of liquids to add than some editor sitting at a computer in Indiana.

Congrats on getting it.

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 5:40:02 PM UTC-6, Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> Â* Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
> recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
> ... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
> rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
> least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
> bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
>
I dunno, but it is an interesting question. How would that shelf stable milk
we've discussed in the past work? My oldest brother was lactose intolerant
but it did not affect him when it came to eating biscuits.

Did I read or did I imagine there is some pill that an intolerant person can
take to overcome this problem when they eat something with dairy in it?

writes:
>On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 5:40:02 PM UTC-6, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>
>> A Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
>> recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
>> ... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
>> rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
>> least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
>> bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
>>
>I dunno, but it is an interesting question. How would that shelf stable milk
>we've discussed in the past work? My oldest brother was lactose intolerant
>but it did not affect him when it came to eating biscuits.
>
>Did I read or did I imagine there is some pill that an intolerant person can
>take to overcome this problem when they eat something with dairy in it?


you're looking for lactase

On 11/26/2018 6:19 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:
>> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 5:40:02 PM UTC-6, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>> A Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
>>> recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
>>> ... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
>>> rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
>>> least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
>>> bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
>>>
>> I dunno, but it is an interesting question. How would that shelf stable milk
>> we've discussed in the past work? My oldest brother was lactose intolerant
>> but it did not affect him when it came to eating biscuits.
>>
>> Did I read or did I imagine there is some pill that an intolerant person can
>> take to overcome this problem when they eat something with dairy in it?
>
> you're looking for lactase
>
Â* She tried the pills , didn't do much for her . She's also afflicted
with diverticulosis/itis . Life can go from normal to hell for her in a
heartbeat if something triggers her . I try to avoid things that cause
her discomfort .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 6:42:17 PM UTC-6, Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> On 11/26/2018 6:19 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>
> > writes:
> >>
> >> Did I read or did I imagine there is some pill that an intolerant person can
> >> take to overcome this problem when they eat something with dairy in it?
> >
> > you're looking for lactase
> >
> Â* She tried the pills , didn't do much for her . She's also afflicted
> with diverticulosis/itis . Life can go from normal to hell for her in a
> heartbeat if something triggers her . I try to avoid things that cause
> her discomfort .
>
>
Oh, ok. That's got to be hell mixing the diverticulosis/itis in with the
lactose intolerance.

On 2018-11-26 6:54 p.m., wrote:
> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 5:40:02 PM UTC-6, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>
>> Â* Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
>> recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
>> ... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
>> rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
>> least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
>> bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
>>
> I dunno, but it is an interesting question. How would that shelf stable milk
> we've discussed in the past work? My oldest brother was lactose intolerant
> but it did not affect him when it came to eating biscuits.
>
> Did I read or did I imagine there is some pill that an intolerant person can
> take to overcome this problem when they eat something with dairy in it?
>

I have been using lactose free milk for the last few months and haven't
suffered from the usual milk reactions.

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 1:40:02 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote:
> Â* Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same
> recipe . Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant
> ... Last time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't
> rise well if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at
> least cut way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and
> bones of our T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
>
> --
> Snag
> Yes , I'm old
> and crochety - and armed .
> Get outta my woods !

I had a scoop of ice cream yesterday and have been paying for it for the last 24 hours. I can sometimes eat dairy products with no problem but sometimes I cannot. My guess is that I can cure myself by eating some yogurt and then drinking a little milk every day to keep a robust colony of lactose loving bacteria alive and thriving in my gut. Well, that's my theory anyway. My guess is that lactose is hitting me so badly because I've been very good at avoiding it recently.

On 2018-11-26 7:56 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

> I had a scoop of ice cream yesterday and have been paying for it for
> the last 24 hours. I can sometimes eat dairy products with no problem
> but sometimes I cannot. My guess is that I can cure myself by eating
> some yogurt and then drinking a little milk every day to keep a
> robust colony of lactose loving bacteria alive and thriving in my
> gut. Well, that's my theory anyway. My guess is that lactose is
> hitting me so badly because I've been very good at avoiding it
> recently.
>

Look for kefir. It is fermented milk and has the stuff your guts need
to deal with the lactose. They now have sweetend, flavoured kefir that
are a lot like a milk shaks.

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-11-26 7:56 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
> > I had a scoop of ice cream yesterday and have been paying for it for
> > the last 24 hours. I can sometimes eat dairy products with no problem
> > but sometimes I cannot. My guess is that I can cure myself by eating
> > some yogurt and then drinking a little milk every day to keep a
> > robust colony of lactose loving bacteria alive and thriving in my
> > gut. Well, that's my theory anyway. My guess is that lactose is
> > hitting me so badly because I've been very good at avoiding it
> > recently.
> >
>
> Look for kefir. It is fermented milk and has the stuff your guts need
> to deal with the lactose. They now have sweetend, flavoured kefir that
> are a lot like a milk shaks.

Kefir is kind of expensive. I can just get some yogurt and have a spoonful every day and I'll be A-OK. If I go to a Korean market, I'll usually pick up little bottles of probiotics. They come in single shots and they sell for for 6 for 99 cents.

https://www.foodnetwork.com/fn-dish/...it-so-popular-

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-11-26 7:56 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
> > I had a scoop of ice cream yesterday and have been paying for it for
> > the last 24 hours. I can sometimes eat dairy products with no problem
> > but sometimes I cannot. My guess is that I can cure myself by eating
> > some yogurt and then drinking a little milk every day to keep a
> > robust colony of lactose loving bacteria alive and thriving in my
> > gut. Well, that's my theory anyway. My guess is that lactose is
> > hitting me so badly because I've been very good at avoiding it
> > recently.
> >
>
> Look for kefir. It is fermented milk and has the stuff your guts need
> to deal with the lactose. They now have sweetend, flavoured kefir that
> are a lot like a milk shaks.

My daughter got some almond milk Redi-whip. It's non-dairy although it has a distinct coconut taste to it. I think it's something that guys like me and vegans will appreciate.

https://www.cookinglight.com/news/re...-whipped-cream

"Terry Coombs" > wrote in message
news
> Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same recipe .
> Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant ... Last
> time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't rise well
> if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at least cut
> way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and bones of our
> T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !

I've made them with water when I had no milk or was out of milk. Works just
fine.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Terry Coombs" > wrote in message
> news
> > Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same recipe .
> > Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant ... Last
> > time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't rise well
> > if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at least cut
> > way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and bones of our
> > T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
>
> I've made them with water when I had no milk or was out of milk. Works just
> fine.

In a similar note, I've often made a white sauce using water or
broth rather than milk. Not white anymore but still tasty.

On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 11:23:55 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "Terry Coombs" > wrote in message
> > news
> > > Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same recipe .
> > > Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant ... Last
> > > time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't rise well
> > > if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at least cut
> > > way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and bones of our
> > > T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
> >
> > I've made them with water when I had no milk or was out of milk. Works just
> > fine.
>
> In a similar note, I've often made a white sauce using water or
> broth rather than milk. Not white anymore but still tasty.

Good golly! You've invented veloute.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velout%C3%A9_sauce>

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > In a similar note, I've often made a white sauce using water or
> > broth rather than milk. Not white anymore but still tasty.
>
> Good golly! You've invented veloute.

LOL! Well Cindy, I'm not surprised. Pretty much no matter what
you come with in cooking now, someone else has already "been
there, done that." I did try that on my own though...never knew
about it. No big deal.

On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 6:23:55 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "Terry Coombs" > wrote in message
> > news
> > > Well , this time I'll be using them for dumplings , but the same recipe .
> > > Mine calls for 2/3 C milk , and my wife is lactose intolerant ... Last
> > > time I subbed her soy milk for cow's , and the biscuits didn't rise well
> > > if at all . So I'm wondering if I can use plain water , or at least cut
> > > way back using powdered milk . I simmered the carcass and bones of our
> > > T-Day Turkey Today , it's dumpling time !
> >
> > I've made them with water when I had no milk or was out of milk. Works just
> > fine.
>
> In a similar note, I've often made a white sauce using water or
> broth rather than milk. Not white anymore but still tasty.

My guess is that adding a little titanium dioxide to the water will give a really white white sauce. As an added bonus, your vegan friends can freely partake of your white sauce.

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...ide+food+grade

dsi1 wrote:
>
> My guess is that adding a little titanium dioxide to the water will give a really white white sauce. As an added bonus, your vegan friends can freely partake of your white sauce.

I'll let Bruce take this one. All of my house paint contains
titanium dioxide for white coloring.

On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 6:25:11 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > My guess is that adding a little titanium dioxide to the water will give a really white white sauce. As an added bonus, your vegan friends can freely partake of your white sauce.
>
> I'll let Bruce take this one. All of my house paint contains
> titanium dioxide for white coloring.

No one in the history of humankind has ever died from consuming titanium dioxide!!!