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I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.

I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.

I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
traffic unless there's an accident).

For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
really milk at all, it seems).

Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)

Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
price for the fresh milk solution.

Why?

Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?
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On 10/25/18 9:43 PM, Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:
> I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
> but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
> I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
> down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
> I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
> gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
> makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
> traffic unless there's an accident).
>
> For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
> canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
> really milk at all, it seems).
>
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?
>


Do you have space to keep a cow ?
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Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:

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> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?


soy milk, oat milk, various nut milks are ok at times.
i don't much like rice, but even that is ok.

when i wasn't drinking much milk i'd buy the powdered
stuff and while it may taste different it isn't too bad
when added to other things. the key is the water and
then refridgerate for a while.


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On 10/25/2018 07:43 PM, Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?


No, 2 quarts of fresh milk here is $2 for the cheapest store brand.
Powdered isn't much cheaper but it is not more expensive.
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On 10/25/2018 9:43 PM, Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:

>
> For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
> canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
> really milk at all, it seems).
>
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?
>


Whole milk is processed quickly and bottled in volume at large plant.
Powdered and canned do not have the same volume and require more
processing time, energy to dry and heat.

You can freeze milk but it will affect the texture.

We use very little milk. usually buy a quart for $1.19 at the
supermarket. Monday I happened to be in WalMart so I figured I'd get it
there. The do not carry quarts, but a half gallon there was only 80 cents.


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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:43:37 -0300, Carlos Eduardo Vieira
> wrote:

>I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
>but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
>I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
>down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
>I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
>gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
>makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
>traffic unless there's an accident).
>
>For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
>canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
>really milk at all, it seems).
>
>Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
>to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
>milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
>Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
>that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
>price for the fresh milk solution.
>
>Why?
>
>Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
>Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?


My mom used to feed us milk from powder in the 50's. It was cheaper, and I didn't like it,
but it wasn't as bad when ice cold, and I guess it had the same nutritional value as milk.
I think it was for about a year, and probably due to high milk prices.
I only pay 2 bucks for a gallon of whole milk, so wouldn't even consider it now.
This one has decent reviews on Amazon, but it's still about 4 bucks a gallon.
https://tinyurl.com/y7esaj58

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On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 3:43:41 PM UTC-10, Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:
> I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
> but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
> I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
> down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
> I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
> gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
> makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
> traffic unless there's an accident).
>
> For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
> canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
> really milk at all, it seems).
>
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?


You can try self-stable milk i.e., milk that doesn't require refrigeration. It's sterilized milk in a heavy duty container. It should keep for about 6 months but my guess is that it will keep for longer than that. It will probably taste more like regular milk than canned or dried milk. I don't know how much it would cost on the mainland. What I do know is that a good price for milk on this rock would be 5 bucks a gallon.
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On 10/25/2018 09:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> We use very little milk. usually buy a quart for $1.19 at the
> supermarket. Monday I happened to be in WalMart so I figured I'd get it
> there. The do not carry quarts, but a half gallon there was only 80 cents.


I didn't know the Chinese were into milking cows...

https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/dybretail.pdf

Advertised Prices for Dairy Products at Major Retail Supermarket Outlets
ending during the period of 10/19/2018 to 10/25/2018

The national weighted average advertised price for conventional milk
half gallons is $2.37

Is Walmart's milk like their meat -- 20% water added to enhance the
flavor? I recall a First Communion primer illustrated adultery as a man
in a mask pouring water into a milk can. I guess for that age group it
was better than discussing the sex habits of presidents.

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On 10/25/2018 10:27 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
> My mom used to feed us milk from powder in the 50's. It was cheaper, and I didn't like it,
> but it wasn't as bad when ice cold, and I guess it had the same nutritional value as milk.
> I think it was for about a year, and probably due to high milk prices.
> I only pay 2 bucks for a gallon of whole milk, so wouldn't even consider it now.
> This one has decent reviews on Amazon, but it's still about 4 bucks a gallon.


I live in the wrong place. 80 cents a half gallon, $2 for a gallon...
The USDA says the national weighted average advertised price for
conventional milk half gallons is $2.37 this week so I guess I'm lucky
to pay $1.98 a half gallon.
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In article >,
Carlos Eduardo Vieira > wrote:
>I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's
>related to homes
>but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
>I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff,
>not the watered
>down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
>I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store
>(other than a 7-11
>gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a
>highway exit), which
>makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's
>generally no
>traffic unless there's an accident).
>
>For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I
>have resorted to
>canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too
>much (they're not
>really milk at all, it seems).
>
>Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to
>the grocery store
>to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more
>expensive than fresh
>milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
>Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I
>was in for a shock
>that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is
>more than twice the
>price for the fresh milk solution.
>
>Why?
>
>Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
>Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?


UHT, ultra high temperature, pasteurized milk.
Sold in a box container, but whole and non-fat varieties.
Does not need refrigeration until opened.
Might be hard to find--last seen at the dollar store.
Tastes far better than reconstituted powder milk, but not quite as good as fresh.

Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.

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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 26 Oct 2018 07:12:12 -0000 (UTC),
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>In article >,
>Carlos Eduardo Vieira > wrote:
>>I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's
>>related to homes
>>but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>>
>>I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff,
>>not the watered
>>down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>>
>>I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store
>>(other than a 7-11
>>gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a
>>highway exit), which
>>makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's
>>generally no
>>traffic unless there's an accident).
>>
>>For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I
>>have resorted to
>>canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too
>>much (they're not
>>really milk at all, it seems).
>>
>>Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to
>>the grocery store
>>to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more
>>expensive than fresh
>>milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>>
>>Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I
>>was in for a shock
>>that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is
>>more than twice the
>>price for the fresh milk solution.
>>
>>Why?
>>
>>Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
>>Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?

>
>UHT, ultra high temperature, pasteurized milk.


There was another name for that, also, ???, but it seems to have faded
away and your name is all that I can find. Requires no refrigeration.

I've had canned condensed milk and powdered milk once or twice. I was
amazed at how little they tasted like milk.

Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?

>Sold in a box container, but whole and non-fat varieties.
>Does not need refrigeration until opened.
>Might be hard to find--last seen at the dollar store.
>Tastes far better than reconstituted powder milk, but not quite as good as fresh.
>
>Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>
>m


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On 25-Oct-2018, Carlos Eduardo Vieira >
wrote:

> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?

I buy Saco Mix 'n Drink powdered milk for "emergency supply"; it is $3.99
for 3, one-quart packs at the supermarket I shop. Given it is non-fat, I
can't see it being used for ice cream; but, for most uses I find it quite
good. It doesn't have the strong caramel back-note that most canned or
powdered milk products do - there's some, but not as strong as in other
products.

==

We don't drink milk so I keep dried in.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-G...ucts/266258950

It is excellent for my purposes. I see it is fine to feel infants over 12
months so can't be bad

Might be worth a try?


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It is excellent for my purposes. I see it is fine to feel infants over 12
months so can't be bad

Might be worth a try?
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OMG It is fine to FEED infants - before the sick mob get stuck
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>It is excellent for my purposes. I see it is fine to feel infants over 12
>months so can't be bad
>
>Might be worth a try?
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>
>OMG It is fine to FEED infants - before the sick mob get stuck
>in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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>"Ophelia" wrote in message ...
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>It is excellent for my purposes. I see it is fine to feel infants over 12
>months so can't be bad
>
>Might be worth a try?
>============
>
>OMG It is fine to FEED infants - before the sick mob get stuck
>in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LOL!

==

It won't be lol when the sick mob start((




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@starone.com.br says...
>
> I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
> but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
> I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
> down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
> I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
> gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
> makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
> traffic unless there's an accident).


You surely don't drive 40 miles just for milk? Get milk while buying
other food supplies. Refrigerated milk stays fresh for a week.
>
> For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
> canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
> really milk at all, it seems).
>
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?


Cost of processing, and volume of wet milk required.
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?


UHT longlife milk. Still tastes different from fresh, but better than
canned or dried. It's wet milk and a sealed pack keeps for 6 months,
unrefrigerated.

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>On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:35:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Ophelia" wrote in message ...
>>
>>
>>It is excellent for my purposes. I see it is fine to feel infants over 12
>>months so can't be bad
>>
>>Might be worth a try?
>>============
>>
>>OMG It is fine to FEED infants - before the sick mob get stuck
>>in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>
>LOL!
>
>==
>
>It won't be lol when the sick mob start((


We'll have to wait and see, but it says a lot about them and nothing
about you
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>"Brice" wrote in message
.. .
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>On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:35:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Ophelia" wrote in message ...
>>
>>
>>It is excellent for my purposes. I see it is fine to feel infants over 12
>>months so can't be bad
>>
>>Might be worth a try?
>>============
>>
>>OMG It is fine to FEED infants - before the sick mob get stuck
>>in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>
>LOL!
>
>==
>
>It won't be lol when the sick mob start((


We'll have to wait and see, but it says a lot about them and nothing
about you
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On 10/25/2018 9:43 PM, Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:

> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?


It takes a lot more milk to reduce it to a powder, however it is they
do it. Evaporation, for starters.

> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?


I did look at the price of powdered milk once, don't know why because
I loathe the stuff, but it was quite pricey.

People freeze milk, then shake it once it thaws, I've never tried
that, myself.

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> I did look at the price of powdered milk once, don't know why because
> I loathe the stuff, but it was quite pricey.


I tried a teaspoon of it (the powder) in coffee one morning.
Thought it might do like the powdered Coffee Mate. No. It wasn't
good at all. You need to rehydrate it first before using in
coffee.


> People freeze milk, then shake it once it thaws, I've never tried
> that, myself.


I buy half gallons mainly for morning coffee and occasional
cooking. First thing I do when I buy a new one is to freeze a few
small containers (6-8oz) just for emergency coffee milk in case
my main bottle starts to go off before I get to the grocery
store. It's fine for that use and probably for cooking too.

I've even added a TBS of vanilla ice cream to coffee for
emergency dairy a few times. lol


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>Nancy Young wrote:
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>> I did look at the price of powdered milk once, don't know why because
>> I loathe the stuff, but it was quite pricey.


Back when I was a widdle wun (the 1960's), powdered milk
was about 1/2 the price of regular.

We'd (or rather my parents) would add it to macaroni and
cheese and it was ok for that.

About a decade ago I priced it at the market and saw, like
you did, that it's more expensive.

I have absolutely no idea why and how this was and is
the case. There's so much gov't price fixing and support
in milk pricing that there's plenty of questions
involved...



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On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 10:00:55 AM UTC-4, danny burstein wrote:
> >Nancy Young wrote:
> >>
> >> I did look at the price of powdered milk once, don't know why because
> >> I loathe the stuff, but it was quite pricey.

>
> Back when I was a widdle wun (the 1960's), powdered milk
> was about 1/2 the price of regular.
>
> We'd (or rather my parents) would add it to macaroni and
> cheese and it was ok for that.
>
> About a decade ago I priced it at the market and saw, like
> you did, that it's more expensive.
>
> I have absolutely no idea why and how this was and is
> the case. There's so much gov't price fixing and support
> in milk pricing that there's plenty of questions
> involved...


It might also be supply and demand. If there's little demand for
powdered milk (from consumers; obviously industrial food operations
use a lot of it), the price would tend to rise.

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On 10/26/2018 10:00 AM, danny burstein wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>> I did look at the price of powdered milk once, don't know why because
>>> I loathe the stuff, but it was quite pricey.

>
> Back when I was a widdle wun (the 1960's), powdered milk
> was about 1/2 the price of regular.
>
> We'd (or rather my parents) would add it to macaroni and
> cheese and it was ok for that.


When we ran out of milk, my mother would occasionally whip up
some powdered milk. We all hated it so she didn't bother too
often.

> About a decade ago I priced it at the market and saw, like
> you did, that it's more expensive.
>
> I have absolutely no idea why and how this was and is
> the case. There's so much gov't price fixing and support
> in milk pricing that there's plenty of questions
> involved..


I figure do the math and see how much milk it would make when
reconstituted. In the end it's probably quite a bit cheaper
than fresh milk.

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In > Nancy Young > writes:

>> About a decade ago I priced it at the market and saw, like
>> you did, that it's more expensive.
>>
>> I have absolutely no idea why and how this was and is
>> the case. There's so much gov't price fixing and support
>> in milk pricing that there's plenty of questions
>> involved..


>I figure do the math and see how much milk it would make when
>reconstituted. In the end it's probably quite a bit cheaper
>than fresh milk.


You'd think so, and again, that was the case
a, err, well, half century ago.

But no more. The powdered milk, per quart equivalent,
is more expensive nowadays.

(At least in the multiple areas I've checked. Given
the very convulted price fixing, etc., there might
be sections of the country which are different).



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On 10/25/18 9:43 PM, Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:
> I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
> but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
> I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
> down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
> I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
> gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
> makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
> traffic unless there's an accident).
>
> For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
> canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
> really milk at all, it seems).
>
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?
>

You've led some kind of over-sheltered life if your idea of an emergency
is running out of milk ;-)


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It might also be supply and demand. If there's little demand for
powdered milk (from consumers; obviously industrial food operations
use a lot of it), the price would tend to rise.

Cindy Hamilton

==

It was a very odd day today. Someone from McQueen's dairies arrived at our
door to see if we wanted a milk delivery!!!

I have not seen a milk delivery for over 50 years) Yes, I will be having
it)

A bit different though as this will be only twice a week and we will pay
over the phone !!! LOL

I am a bit stunned still) I didn't answer the door. D. did and and said
no thanks! When he came in and told me I was a bit ....Get Him Back !!

LOL

Strange day)


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> Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?
>

Sure, just turn the clock back to 1966. That's the last time I saw a
milkman.
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On 10/26/2018 4:56 AM, micky wrote:


> Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?
>

Sure, just turn the clock back to 1966. That's the last time I saw a
milkman.


===

WE are going to have one!!! Strutt!!! In glass bottles
too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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On 26-Oct-2018, "Ophelia" > wrote:

> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
> ...
>
>
> It might also be supply and demand. If there's little demand for
> powdered milk (from consumers; obviously industrial food operations
> use a lot of it), the price would tend to rise.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
> ==
>
> It was a very odd day today. Someone from McQueen's dairies arrived at
> our
> door to see if we wanted a milk delivery!!!
>
> I have not seen a milk delivery for over 50 years) Yes, I will be
> having
> it)
>
> A bit different though as this will be only twice a week and we will pay
> over the phone !!! LOL
>
> I am a bit stunned still) I didn't answer the door. D. did and and
> said
> no thanks! When he came in and told me I was a bit ....Get Him Back !!
>
> LOL
>
> Strange day)

When we had young children at home, we had home milk delivery. That was
25-ish years ago and there were a couple of dairies that offered home
delivery. When one of them gave up, the other took over delivery to those
customers and continues delivery to this day. The biggest change is, when
we had the service long ago, there were two delivery days per week to the
area, today, there is only one. However, there is the full range of dairy
products available today, pretty much anything available at the supermarket.
In olden days, we didn't have 100+ variations on yogurt, ersatz milk, etc.
==

It will be 2 deliveries a week. Milk in Glass Bottles!!!!

LOL not seen that in years) I don't know yet what else will be on offer
but I guess I will find out I am very pleased though))



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>Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?


Primeiro defina a "emergencia".
Ai talvez alguem possa ajudar ...
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> I live in the wrong place. 80 cents a half gallon, $2 for a gallon...
>


Uh, is this correct?

In PA milk is price controlled. I can never figure out why gasoline is
cheaper than milk...

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On 10/26/18 11:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/26/2018 4:56 AM, micky wrote:
>
>
>> Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?
>>

> Sure, just turn the clock back to 1966.Â* That's the last time I saw a
> milkman.


When my parents bought a house in 1969 there was a milk delivery service
we tried for awhile, although the milk was frequently sour.

Then my mother got powdered milk for awhile, to save money. It tasted
terrible.

UHT milk is something I've tried recently. Better than powdered, but not
very good.

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On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:15:36 PM UTC-4, Tekkie® wrote:
> rbowman posted for all of us...
>
>
> > I live in the wrong place. 80 cents a half gallon, $2 for a gallon...
> >

>
> Uh, is this correct?
>
> In PA milk is price controlled. I can never figure out why gasoline is
> cheaper than milk...


You answered your own question. You can thank the Pennsylvania Milk
Marketing Board.

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> When we had young children at home, we had home milk delivery. That was
> 25-ish years ago and there were a couple of dairies that offered home
> delivery. When one of them gave up, the other took over delivery to those
> customers and continues delivery to this day. The biggest change is, when
> we had the service long ago, there were two delivery days per week to the
> area, today, there is only one. However, there is the full range of dairy
> products available today, pretty much anything available at the supermarket.
> In olden days, we didn't have 100+ variations on yogurt, ersatz milk, etc.


We had the insulated galvanized metal flip top box on the porch for
deliveries - most houses had them (ours sat out there for at least 5
years after our most recent delivery).

It used to be milk in glass bottles but at some point in the
mid-late 70's they switched to the plastic jugs. I think the
dimensions of now ubiquitous standard size gallon plastic jugs were
based on the dimensions of these standard[?] milk boxes. 4 jugs fit
perfectly inside the milk box.

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> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>
> m
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Why?

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>On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
>>
>> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>>
>> m
>>

>Why?


It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.
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Dairy fat prevents type 2 diabetes a lot.
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On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 7:37:14 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:13:50 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
> >>
> >> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
> >>
> >> m
> >>

> >Why?

>
> It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.
>

Why is a 'milk' made from a nut better than natural cows milk?

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On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 18:23:21 -0700 (PDT), "
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>On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 7:37:14 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:13:50 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>> >>
>> >> m
>> >>
>> >Why?

>>
>> It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.
>>

>Why is a 'milk' made from a nut better than natural cows milk?


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