I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.

I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.

I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
traffic unless there's an accident).

For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
really milk at all, it seems).

Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)

Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
price for the fresh milk solution.

Why?

Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?

On 10/25/18 9:43 PM, Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:
> I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
> but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
> I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
> down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
> I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
> gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
> makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
> traffic unless there's an accident).
>
> For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
> canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
> really milk at all, it seems).
>
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?
>

Do you have space to keep a cow ?

On 10/25/2018 07:43 PM, Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?

No, 2 quarts of fresh milk here is $2 for the cheapest store brand.
Powdered isn't much cheaper but it is not more expensive.

Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:

....
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?

soy milk, oat milk, various nut milks are ok at times.
i don't much like rice, but even that is ok.

when i wasn't drinking much milk i'd buy the powdered
stuff and while it may taste different it isn't too bad
when added to other things. the key is the water and
then refridgerate for a while.


songbird

On 10/25/2018 9:43 PM, Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:

>
> For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
> canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
> really milk at all, it seems).
>
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?
>

Whole milk is processed quickly and bottled in volume at large plant.
Powdered and canned do not have the same volume and require more
processing time, energy to dry and heat.

You can freeze milk but it will affect the texture.

We use very little milk. usually buy a quart for $1.19 at the
supermarket. Monday I happened to be in WalMart so I figured I'd get it
there. The do not carry quarts, but a half gallon there was only 80 cents.

On 10/25/2018 09:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> We use very little milk. usually buy a quart for $1.19 at the
> supermarket. Monday I happened to be in WalMart so I figured I'd get it
> there. The do not carry quarts, but a half gallon there was only 80 cents.

I didn't know the Chinese were into milking cows...

https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/dybretail.pdf

Advertised Prices for Dairy Products at Major Retail Supermarket Outlets
ending during the period of 10/19/2018 to 10/25/2018

The national weighted average advertised price for conventional milk
half gallons is $2.37

Is Walmart's milk like their meat -- 20% water added to enhance the
flavor? I recall a First Communion primer illustrated adultery as a man
in a mask pouring water into a milk can. I guess for that age group it
was better than discussing the sex habits of presidents.

"rbowman" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/25/2018 09:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> We use very little milk. usually buy a quart for $1.19 at the
>> supermarket. Monday I happened to be in WalMart so I figured I'd get it
>> there. The do not carry quarts, but a half gallon there was only 80
>> cents.
>
> I didn't know the Chinese were into milking cows...
>
> https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/dybretail.pdf
>
> Advertised Prices for Dairy Products at Major Retail Supermarket Outlets
> ending during the period of 10/19/2018 to 10/25/2018
>
> The national weighted average advertised price for conventional milk half
> gallons is $2.37
>
> Is Walmart's milk like their meat -- 20% water added to enhance the
> flavor? I recall a First Communion primer illustrated adultery as a man
> in a mask pouring water into a milk can. I guess for that age group it was
> better than discussing the sex habits of presidents.

Not all Walmart meat is that way. They have been selling grass fed beef,
organic and non-organic for some time now.

On 10/28/2018 05:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "rbowman" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/25/2018 09:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> We use very little milk. usually buy a quart for $1.19 at the
>>> supermarket. Monday I happened to be in WalMart so I figured I'd get it
>>> there. The do not carry quarts, but a half gallon there was only 80
>>> cents.
>>
>> I didn't know the Chinese were into milking cows...
>>
>> https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/dybretail.pdf
>>
>> Advertised Prices for Dairy Products at Major Retail Supermarket
>> Outlets ending during the period of 10/19/2018 to 10/25/2018
>>
>> The national weighted average advertised price for conventional milk
>> half gallons is $2.37
>>
>> Is Walmart's milk like their meat -- 20% water added to enhance the
>> flavor? I recall a First Communion primer illustrated adultery as a
>> man in a mask pouring water into a milk can. I guess for that age
>> group it was better than discussing the sex habits of presidents.
>
> Not all Walmart meat is that way. They have been selling grass fed beef,
> organic and non-organic for some time now.

Okay. I haven't been in a Walmart this year iirc. It's my store of last
resort if I can't find an item locally. Even then it's usually a brief
stop on the way to Amazon. The few times I wandered to the grocery
section I wasn't impressed.

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:43:37 -0300, Carlos Eduardo Vieira
> wrote:

>I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
>but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
>I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
>down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
>I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
>gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
>makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
>traffic unless there's an accident).
>
>For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
>canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
>really milk at all, it seems).
>
>Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
>to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
>milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
>Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
>that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
>price for the fresh milk solution.
>
>Why?
>
>Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
>Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?

My mom used to feed us milk from powder in the 50's. It was cheaper, and I didn't like it,
but it wasn't as bad when ice cold, and I guess it had the same nutritional value as milk.
I think it was for about a year, and probably due to high milk prices.
I only pay 2 bucks for a gallon of whole milk, so wouldn't even consider it now.
This one has decent reviews on Amazon, but it's still about 4 bucks a gallon.
https://tinyurl.com/y7esaj58

On 10/25/2018 10:27 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
> My mom used to feed us milk from powder in the 50's. It was cheaper, and I didn't like it,
> but it wasn't as bad when ice cold, and I guess it had the same nutritional value as milk.
> I think it was for about a year, and probably due to high milk prices.
> I only pay 2 bucks for a gallon of whole milk, so wouldn't even consider it now.
> This one has decent reviews on Amazon, but it's still about 4 bucks a gallon.

I live in the wrong place. 80 cents a half gallon, $2 for a gallon...
The USDA says the national weighted average advertised price for
conventional milk half gallons is $2.37 this week so I guess I'm lucky
to pay $1.98 a half gallon.

rbowman posted for all of us...


> I live in the wrong place. 80 cents a half gallon, $2 for a gallon...
>

Uh, is this correct?

In PA milk is price controlled. I can never figure out why gasoline is
cheaper than milk...

--
Tekkie

On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:15:36 PM UTC-4, Tekkie® wrote:
> rbowman posted for all of us...
>
>
> > I live in the wrong place. 80 cents a half gallon, $2 for a gallon...
> >
>
> Uh, is this correct?
>
> In PA milk is price controlled. I can never figure out why gasoline is
> cheaper than milk...

You answered your own question. You can thank the Pennsylvania Milk
Marketing Board.

Cindy Hamilton

"Vic Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:43:37 -0300, Carlos Eduardo Vieira
> > wrote:
>
>>I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
>>but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>>
>>I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
>>down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>>
>>I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
>>gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
>>makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
>>traffic unless there's an accident).
>>
>>For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
>>canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
>>really milk at all, it seems).
>>
>>Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
>>to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
>>milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>>
>>Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
>>that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
>>price for the fresh milk solution.
>>
>>Why?
>>
>>Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
>>Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?
>
> My mom used to feed us milk from powder in the 50's. It was cheaper, and
> I didn't like it,
> but it wasn't as bad when ice cold, and I guess it had the same
> nutritional value as milk.
> I think it was for about a year, and probably due to high milk prices.
> I only pay 2 bucks for a gallon of whole milk, so wouldn't even consider
> it now.
> This one has decent reviews on Amazon, but it's still about 4 bucks a
> gallon.
> https://tinyurl.com/y7esaj58

We had that too, most of the time. It was cheaper back then. It's not now.
Not here anyway. I've always hated to drink milk but the powdered was really
yucky. I don't mind using it in cooking though.

On 10/28/2018 05:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> We had that too, most of the time. It was cheaper back then. It's not
> now. Not here anyway. I've always hated to drink milk but the powdered
> was really yucky. I don't mind using it in cooking though.

Back in the day I used it to make yogurt from a recipe gleaned from the
Whole Earth Catalog. It wasn't bad but I doubt it would be worthwhile
now when everybody and their cousin is making yogurt and one brand or
the other is always on sale.

http://guide.sportsmansguide.com/tip...red-milk-ever/

That's the best one I found. It wasn't cheap and it was off the market
for a while.

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 3:43:41 PM UTC-10, Carlos Eduardo Vieira wrote:
> I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
> but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
> I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
> down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
> I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
> gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
> makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
> traffic unless there's an accident).
>
> For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
> canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
> really milk at all, it seems).
>
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?

You can try self-stable milk i.e., milk that doesn't require refrigeration. It's sterilized milk in a heavy duty container. It should keep for about 6 months but my guess is that it will keep for longer than that. It will probably taste more like regular milk than canned or dried milk. I don't know how much it would cost on the mainland. What I do know is that a good price for milk on this rock would be 5 bucks a gallon.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 3:43:41 PM UTC-10, Carlos Eduardo Vieira
wrote:
> I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
> but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
> I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
> down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
> I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
> gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
> makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
> traffic unless there's an accident).
>
> For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
> canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
> really milk at all, it seems).
>
> Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
> Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> price for the fresh milk solution.
>
> Why?
>
> Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?

You can try self-stable milk i.e., milk that doesn't require refrigeration.
It's sterilized milk in a heavy duty container. It should keep for about 6
months but my guess is that it will keep for longer than that. It will
probably taste more like regular milk than canned or dried milk. I don't
know how much it would cost on the mainland. What I do know is that a good
price for milk on this rock would be 5 bucks a gallon.

It can be expensive but Dollar Tree sometimes has it.

On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 4:43:24 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> You can try self-stable milk i.e., milk that doesn't require refrigeration.
> It's sterilized milk in a heavy duty container. It should keep for about 6
> months but my guess is that it will keep for longer than that. It will
> probably taste more like regular milk than canned or dried milk. I don't
> know how much it would cost on the mainland. What I do know is that a good
> price for milk on this rock would be 5 bucks a gallon.
>
> It can be expensive but Dollar Tree sometimes has it.
>
Thank you Ju-Ju for that astounding information (which was posted upthread
days ago), just crawl out of bed with Mr. Green Jeans?

On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 11:43:24 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1> wrote in message
> ...
> On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 3:43:41 PM UTC-10, Carlos Eduardo Vieira
> wrote:
> > I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's related to homes
> > but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
> >
> > I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff, not the watered
> > down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
> >
> > I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store (other than a 7-11
> > gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a highway exit), which
> > makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's generally no
> > traffic unless there's an accident).
> >
> > For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I have resorted to
> > canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too much (they're not
> > really milk at all, it seems).
> >
> > Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to the grocery store
> > to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more expensive than fresh
> > milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
> >
> > Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I was in for a shock
> > that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is more than twice the
> > price for the fresh milk solution.
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
> > Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?
>
> You can try self-stable milk i.e., milk that doesn't require refrigeration.
> It's sterilized milk in a heavy duty container. It should keep for about 6
> months but my guess is that it will keep for longer than that. It will
> probably taste more like regular milk than canned or dried milk. I don't
> know how much it would cost on the mainland. What I do know is that a good
> price for milk on this rock would be 5 bucks a gallon.
>
> It can be expensive but Dollar Tree sometimes has it.

I like the idea of buying milk and not having to use it i.e., ignoring it. I used some condensed milk in my coffee this morning. It didn't taste very good but that's what I had on hand.

In article >,
Carlos Eduardo Vieira > wrote:
>I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's
>related to homes
>but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>
>I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff,
>not the watered
>down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>
>I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store
>(other than a 7-11
>gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a
>highway exit), which
>makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's
>generally no
>traffic unless there's an accident).
>
>For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I
>have resorted to
>canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too
>much (they're not
>really milk at all, it seems).
>
>Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to
>the grocery store
>to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more
>expensive than fresh
>milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>
>Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I
>was in for a shock
>that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is
>more than twice the
>price for the fresh milk solution.
>
>Why?
>
>Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
>Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?

UHT, ultra high temperature, pasteurized milk.
Sold in a box container, but whole and non-fat varieties.
Does not need refrigeration until opened.
Might be hard to find--last seen at the dollar store.
Tastes far better than reconstituted powder milk, but not quite as good as fresh.

Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.

m

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 26 Oct 2018 07:12:12 -0000 (UTC),
(Fake ID) wrote:

>In article >,
>Carlos Eduardo Vieira > wrote:
>>I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's
>>related to homes
>>but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>>
>>I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff,
>>not the watered
>>down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>>
>>I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store
>>(other than a 7-11
>>gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a
>>highway exit), which
>>makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's
>>generally no
>>traffic unless there's an accident).
>>
>>For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I
>>have resorted to
>>canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too
>>much (they're not
>>really milk at all, it seems).
>>
>>Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to
>>the grocery store
>>to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more
>>expensive than fresh
>>milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>>
>>Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I
>>was in for a shock
>>that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is
>>more than twice the
>>price for the fresh milk solution.
>>
>>Why?
>>
>>Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
>>Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?
>
>UHT, ultra high temperature, pasteurized milk.

There was another name for that, also, ???, but it seems to have faded
away and your name is all that I can find. Requires no refrigeration.

I've had canned condensed milk and powdered milk once or twice. I was
amazed at how little they tasted like milk.

Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?

>Sold in a box container, but whole and non-fat varieties.
>Does not need refrigeration until opened.
>Might be hard to find--last seen at the dollar store.
>Tastes far better than reconstituted powder milk, but not quite as good as fresh.
>
>Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>
>m

On 10/26/2018 4:56 AM, micky wrote:


> Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?
>
Sure, just turn the clock back to 1966. That's the last time I saw a
milkman.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/2018 4:56 AM, micky wrote:


> Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?
>
Sure, just turn the clock back to 1966. That's the last time I saw a
milkman.


===

WE are going to have one!!! Strutt!!! In glass bottles
too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

In article >, says...
>
> On 10/26/2018 4:56 AM, micky wrote:
>
>
> > Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?
> >
> Sure, just turn the clock back to 1966. That's the last time I saw a
> milkman.

We always had our milk delivered until 16 years ago when we moved
here. At that time there still was a local milk delivery service but
the charge was so high I didn't bother. The same local milk was sold
cheaper in the local supermarket so eventually the dairy gave up home
deliveries. Now it sells all the locally-produced milk to the icecream
and cheese makers on the island. Wet milk comes from the mainland.

The house we live in was designed by a builder to please his wife.
One of her requests was a walk-in cold pantry in the kitchen.
On the (north-facing) outer wall of the pantry he made a small double-
door access hatchway, the outer door was a ventilated wooden louvre and
the inner one was a flyscreen. Both doors had springs. The milkman and
butcher delivered goods through the hatch straight onto a marble slab in
the pantry.

Janet UK

On 10/26/18 11:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/26/2018 4:56 AM, micky wrote:
>
>
>> Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?
>>
> Sure, just turn the clock back to 1966.Â* That's the last time I saw a
> milkman.

When my parents bought a house in 1969 there was a milk delivery service
we tried for awhile, although the milk was frequently sour.

Then my mother got powdered milk for awhile, to save money. It tasted
terrible.

UHT milk is something I've tried recently. Better than powdered, but not
very good.

--
60 days until the winter celebration (Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:00:00 AM for 1
day).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Everything has a natural explanation. The moon is not a god but a great
rock and the sun a hot rock." [Anaxagorus, ca. 475 BC]

On 10/26/2018 12:39 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/26/2018 4:56 AM, micky wrote:
>
>
>> Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?
>>
> Sure, just turn the clock back to 1966.Â* That's the last time I saw a
> milkman.

[cross-posting deleted]

LOL Ed. Having missed the original cross-posted query, I don't know
what milk has to do with home repair.

As for emergencies, there is shelf-stable milk available. It's low-fat
(known in the US as 2%) milk. It comes in quart cartons that look
similar to cartons of chicken, beef or vegetable broth. Good to have on
hand in case you run out of milk, or yes, in case of "emergencies".

Jill

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/26/2018 4:56 AM, micky wrote:
>
>
>> Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?
>>
> Sure, just turn the clock back to 1966. That's the last time I saw a
> milkman.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/26/2018 4:56 AM, micky wrote:
>
>
>> Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?
>>
> Sure, just turn the clock back to 1966. That's the last time I saw a
> milkman.

Oops. Sent blank post. We have them here.

https://www.smithbrothersfarms.com/

On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 4:48:02 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Oops. Sent blank post. We have them here.
>
>
Brain dead once again.

"micky" > wrote in message
...
> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 26 Oct 2018 07:12:12 -0000 (UTC),
> (Fake ID) wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>>Carlos Eduardo Vieira > wrote:
>>>I'm not sure which ng to ask this question in, but it's
>>>related to homes
>>>but not to repair and it's related to food but not to cooking.
>>>
>>>I use Costco milk and cream (the real stuff, 100% stuff,
>>>not the watered
>>>down stuff) for my ice cream and coffee.
>>>
>>>I live a score of miles from the nearest grocery store
>>>(other than a 7-11
>>>gas station complex about a dozen miles away at a
>>>highway exit), which
>>>makes a round trip for milk an hour in transit (there's
>>>generally no
>>>traffic unless there's an accident).
>>>
>>>For emergencies for the milk for ice cream and coffee, I
>>>have resorted to
>>>canned milk (both types) but they change the flavor too
>>>much (they're not
>>>really milk at all, it seems).
>>>
>>>Then someone suggested "powdered milk", which I went to
>>>the grocery store
>>>to buy, only to my horror to find that it's far more
>>>expensive than fresh
>>>milk! (About $18 for 20 quarts worth of the powder.)
>>>
>>>Normally the "crap" solution is the cheapest, where I
>>>was in for a shock
>>>that the price for that crap powdered milk solution is
>>>more than twice the
>>>price for the fresh milk solution.
>>>
>>>Why?
>>>
>>>Do you find the same price disparity where you live?
>>>Is there any other "emergency milk" solution out there?
>>
>>UHT, ultra high temperature, pasteurized milk.
>
> There was another name for that, also, ???, but it seems to have faded
> away and your name is all that I can find. Requires no refrigeration.
>
> I've had canned condensed milk and powdered milk once or twice. I was
> amazed at how little they tasted like milk.
>
> Can't you just get your milkman to leave both milk and cream?

I would venture to guess most places no longer have a milkman. We still have
one here. The problem is, they have a minimum order and even though they do
deliver other goods as well, we just didn't need enough of what they sold.
Some of what they sell costs more than I'm willing to spend.

On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
>
> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>
> m
>
Why?

On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:13:50 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
>>
>> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>>
>> m
>>
>Why?

It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.

On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 7:37:14 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:13:50 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
> >>
> >> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
> >>
> >> m
> >>
> >Why?
>
> It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.
>
Why is a 'milk' made from a nut better than natural cows milk?

On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 18:23:21 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 7:37:14 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:13:50 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>> >>
>> >> m
>> >>
>> >Why?
>>
>> It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.
>>
>Why is a 'milk' made from a nut better than natural cows milk?

<https://www.peta.org.au/living/10-reasons-cows-milk-bad/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_Kzs9Lyl3gIVgTUrCh2dFwIvEAAYASA AEgK_LfD_BwE>

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 7:37:14 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:13:50 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy
>> >> milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>> >>
>> >> m
>> >>
>> >Why?
>>
>> It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.
>>
> Why is a 'milk' made from a nut better than natural cows milk?
>

I don't think it's better, it's good though. The best part about it is it
has a really long life, no sour milk.

Cheri

wrote:

> On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 7:37:14 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:13:50 -0700 (PDT),
> > " > wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than
> > dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life. >>
> > >> m
> > > >
> > > Why?
> >
> > It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.
> >
> Why is a 'milk' made from a nut better than natural cows milk?

It's not and lacks the nutritonal calcium.

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 7:37:14 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:13:50 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy
>> >> milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>> >>
>> >> m
>> >>
>> >Why?
>>
>> It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.
>>
> Why is a 'milk' made from a nut better than natural cows milk?

Almonds are good for you. Milk is not.

On 10/26/2018 8:37 PM, Brice wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:13:50 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
>>>
>>> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life.
>>>
>>> m
>>>
>> Why?
>
> It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.
>
Once you hit your tens best to switch to beer.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > Brice wrote: Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.
> >
> Once you hit your tens best to switch to beer.

Finally, a voice of reason here.

Brice wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:13:50 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> > On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:12:15 AM UTC-5, Fake ID wrote:
> >>
> >> Dietitian made us switch to almond milk. More expensive than
> dairy milk, but with a substantially longer shelt life. >>
> >> m
> > >
> > Why?
>
> It's better for you. Cow's milk is good for infants and calves.

Unless you are lactose intolerant, fire that doctor.

l not -l wrote:
>
> I regularly see lamb hearts in the meat
> case at the international grocer. Perhaps those hearts are in the right
> place for some; but, not for me. 8-)

I rarely see lamb anything in my grocery stores. Certainly never
lamb hearts or any other animal hearts for that matter.