"Brice" wrote in message ...

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:06:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Gary" wrote in message ...
>
>Janet wrote:
>>
>> In article >, says...
>> >
>> > Janet wrote:
>> > >
>> > > In article >, says..
>> > > > Interestingly though, don't all 3 of you here in RFC live only
>> > > > part time in Scotland?
>> > >
>> > > Not me. I've lived in Scotland fulltime for over 40 years.
>> >
>> > I actually did think you might be the exception. You've never
>> > mentioned leaving.
>>
>> I've never wanted to.
>>
>> Unlike O, who tried (in vain) for years to sell her down-market dump
>> and move back to Yorkshire.
>
>Better not mention that one. I remember how she went so ballistic
>when you joked that she lived in a concrete shopping center. It
>was funny joke to me but not so much at all to her.
>
>==
>
>Gary, you ought to realise by now that janet NEVER jokes. Everything she
>says is dripping with bile.

Bile should be her middle name. Oh and Brag. Janet Bile Brag. That's
it.

==

I have had the misfortune to have known her online for many years. I have
never 'once', seen her any different!

Brice wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:06:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>>
>> Janet wrote:
>>>
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> Janet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In article >, says..
>>>>>> Interestingly though, don't all 3 of you here in RFC live only
>>>>>> part time in Scotland?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not me. I've lived in Scotland fulltime for over 40 years.
>>>>
>>>> I actually did think you might be the exception. You've never
>>>> mentioned leaving.
>>>
>>> I've never wanted to.
>>>
>>> Unlike O, who tried (in vain) for years to sell her down-market dump
>>> and move back to Yorkshire.
>>
>> Better not mention that one. I remember how she went so ballistic
>> when you joked that she lived in a concrete shopping center. It
>> was funny joke to me but not so much at all to her.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Gary, you ought to realise by now that janet NEVER jokes. Everything she
>> says is dripping with bile.
>
> Bile should be her middle name. Oh and Brag. Janet Bile Brag. That's
> it.
>

See, this is what happens when we don't listen.

Popeye proclaimed that we don't need freezers, just get extra refrigerators.

Now see what has happened due to disobedience?

I'm gonna have a new basement dug and get an RO water filter before it
is too late!

On 10/4/2018 11:22 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/2/2018 1:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>>
>> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and cold.
>> Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for July/August.
>> At least there will be sunshine.
>
> Ed, unless you're comfortable with 80°F temps, you should expect to
> spend time inside with AC from late May until some time in October.
>
> It's still 88-90°F in the afternoons here in southern SC.Â* It's not yet
> cool enough (for me) to not use the AC.Â* Then again, I prefer 71F.
>
> Jill

I'm ok to at least 90. I can take brief periods higher. When I was
working, our plant used steam in the process so it was always 15+
degrees hotter than outside. I spent half my day out there and the
boiler room to do testing, even hotter. Of course, my wife likes it
cooler.

On 10/4/2018 10:41 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 04 Oct 2018 05:15:27p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
>> On 10/4/2018 11:22 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 10/2/2018 1:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and
>>>> cold. Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for
>>>> July/August. At least there will be sunshine.
>>>
>>> Ed, unless you're comfortable with 80°F temps, you should expect
>>> to spend time inside with AC from late May until some time in
>>> October.
>>>
>>> It's still 88-90°F in the afternoons here in southern SC.ÂÂ* It's
>>> not yet cool enough (for me) to not use the AC.ÂÂ* Then again, I
>>> prefer 71F.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I'm ok to at least 90. I can take brief periods higher. When I
>> was working, our plant used steam in the process so it was always
>> 15+ degrees hotter than outside. I spent half my day out there
>> and the boiler room to do testing, even hotter. Of course, my
>> wife likes it cooler.
>>
>
> For as long as I can remember until I was out of college my dad was a
> VP in the HVAC division of York Corp. As a consequence I can't remember
> a time when we didn't have central air conditioning and forced air
> heating in every house we lived in. My dad believed in maintaining 72F
> throughout the year. I was spoiled by this, and I never wanted to go
> to anyone's home that didn't have A/C. :-)
> AC is one of the great inventions of modern times. My parents bought
one that did the entire downstairs of our house. That was in the 1950s.
We slept in the living room on hot nights. Since that time, I spent
maybe one summer without AC in at least the bedroom.

I don't know how people survived years ago in the cities.

On 2018-10-04 10:41 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> For as long as I can remember until I was out of college my dad was a
> VP in the HVAC division of York Corp. As a consequence I can't remember
> a time when we didn't have central air conditioning and forced air
> heating in every house we lived in. My dad believed in maintaining 72F
> throughout the year. I was spoiled by this, and I never wanted to go
> to anyone's home that didn't have A/C. :-)

Wow. I won't ever feel guilty about using energy again. Our cold
weather settings are 69 day time and 60 overnight. I rarely use the AC
during the summer because we have lots or trees and the house stays
fairly cool most of the time. When I do use AC I usually set it for 78.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > "Gary" wrote in message ...
> >
> > Interestingly though, don't all 3 of you here in RFC live only
> > part time in Scotland?
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Not me! I've lived and worked here for decades!
> >
> > My holidays are spent in Yorkshire now though, which is where I came from.
>
> Yeah..that's what I'm talking about with you. You so often
> mention that you are in Yorkshire. Leads me to believe that you
> vacate Scotland about half the time. That would be half-time to
> me.
> ==
>
> Nooo I've been up here and working for over 40 years I am retired now
> and so we go down for holidays. We can do it more than when i was working,
> but when you are retired you can do that! You never heard of me doing that
> when I was working did you??

I'm not sure I even knew you when you were working. How long ago
did you retire? All I know is that you often seem to be back and
forth between the two areas. No big deal.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 10/4/2018 10:41 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > On Thu 04 Oct 2018 05:15:27p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
> >
> >> On 10/4/2018 11:22 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>> On 10/2/2018 1:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and
> >>>> cold. Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for
> >>>> July/August. At least there will be sunshine.
> >>>
> >>> Ed, unless you're comfortable with 80°F temps, you should expect
> >>> to spend time inside with AC from late May until some time in
> >>> October.
> >>>
> >>> It's still 88-90°F in the afternoons here in southern SC.ÂÂ* It's
> >>> not yet cool enough (for me) to not use the AC.ÂÂ* Then again, I
> >>> prefer 71F.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> I'm ok to at least 90. I can take brief periods higher. When I
> >> was working, our plant used steam in the process so it was always
> >> 15+ degrees hotter than outside. I spent half my day out there
> >> and the boiler room to do testing, even hotter. Of course, my
> >> wife likes it cooler.
> >>
> >
> > For as long as I can remember until I was out of college my dad was a
> > VP in the HVAC division of York Corp. As a consequence I can't remember
> > a time when we didn't have central air conditioning and forced air
> > heating in every house we lived in. My dad believed in maintaining 72F
> > throughout the year. I was spoiled by this, and I never wanted to go
> > to anyone's home that didn't have A/C. :-)
> > AC is one of the great inventions of modern times. My parents bought
> one that did the entire downstairs of our house. That was in the 1950s.
> We slept in the living room on hot nights. Since that time, I spent
> maybe one summer without AC in at least the bedroom.
>
> I don't know how people survived years ago in the cities.


On really insufferable nights they'd sleep on their fire escapes or roofs, or even out in the parks if those options were available...in Chicago they'd go out to the lakeside and camp for the night. I've also read that every summer in NYC some peeps during the night would roll off of those fire escapes or roofs, sustaining injuries or death.

Movies were packed as movie houses had A/C, millions would pack a place like Jones Beach, pools, those who could afford it sent the fam off to the cooler countryside, e.g. the Catskills, SW Michigan for Chicagoans, etc...

You look at old films or pix of summer in the city during those days, and many simply lived out on the streets, kids around fire hydrants, people on stoops and porches, etc. By the late 40's that streetscape began to change a bit, corner bars were big buyers of the first room air conditioners, the adults at least could retire to the groggery for some cool comfort, and they could also watch sports on that brand new miracle device, a television set.

"Ophelia" wrote in message ...



"Brice" wrote in message ...

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:06:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Gary" wrote in message ...
>
>Janet wrote:
>>
>> In article >, says...
>> >
>> > Janet wrote:
>> > >
>> > > In article >, says..
>> > > > Interestingly though, don't all 3 of you here in RFC live only
>> > > > part time in Scotland?
>> > >
>> > > Not me. I've lived in Scotland fulltime for over 40 years.
>> >
>> > I actually did think you might be the exception. You've never
>> > mentioned leaving.
>>
>> I've never wanted to.
>>
>> Unlike O, who tried (in vain) for years to sell her down-market dump
>> and move back to Yorkshire.
>
>Better not mention that one. I remember how she went so ballistic
>when you joked that she lived in a concrete shopping center. It
>was funny joke to me but not so much at all to her.
>
>==
>
>Gary, you ought to realise by now that janet NEVER jokes. Everything she
>says is dripping with bile.

Bile should be her middle name. Oh and Brag. Janet Bile Brag. That's
it.

==

I have had the misfortune to have known her online for many years. I have
never 'once', seen her any different!

==

I've been thinking about what she was saying, and I can only think she was
around when we had a recession and house prices dived. I seem to remember I
had a worries about a member of my family who was very ill. I had
considered leaving my job and moving back down to care for her but the house
wouldn't sell. In the end I was able to bring her up here.

After that recession house prices bounced back and I can assure you, after I
retired I had no problems selling )

Anyway, I suspect Janet Bile Brag is spending night and day searching Google
for comments by me at that time.

She will drag something up, she always does

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > "Gary" wrote in message ...
> >
> > Interestingly though, don't all 3 of you here in RFC live only
> > part time in Scotland?
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Not me! I've lived and worked here for decades!
> >
> > My holidays are spent in Yorkshire now though, which is where I came
> > from.
>
> Yeah..that's what I'm talking about with you. You so often
> mention that you are in Yorkshire. Leads me to believe that you
> vacate Scotland about half the time. That would be half-time to
> me.
> ==
>
> Nooo I've been up here and working for over 40 years I am retired
> now
> and so we go down for holidays. We can do it more than when i was
> working,
> but when you are retired you can do that! You never heard of me doing
> that
> when I was working did you??

I'm not sure I even knew you when you were working. How long ago
did you retire? All I know is that you often seem to be back and
forth between the two areas. No big deal.

==

It is your business because ???

On 10/5/2018 7:16 AM, GM wrote:

> Peeps flocked to suburbia to escape the squalid hot and crowded cities...that combined with reliable and affordable A/C, TV, and then cheaper air travel changed the urban summertime streetscapes. You still see the old "living on the streets in the summer" thang, but usually only in poorer nabes now...and some still don't have A/C, during heat waves the cities open up public "cooling centers"...
>

I grew up in Philadelphia. Like most big cities, it had the downtown
core and as you left the center there were definite differences in the
way things were built. My grandmother lived in a section that was built
in the late 1800's with row houses, lots of concrete and asphalt. We
live another 5 miles that was mostly built in the 1940s. Twin houses
with yards and grass, wider streets. Not as noticeable in the middle of
a hot summer day, but later in the evening, there was a good 10 degree
temperature difference with less heat retention.

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 23:02:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/4/2018 10:41 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Thu 04 Oct 2018 05:15:27p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>>
>>> On 10/4/2018 11:22 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 10/2/2018 1:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and
>>>>> cold. Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for
>>>>> July/August. At least there will be sunshine.
>>>>
>>>> Ed, unless you're comfortable with 80°F temps, you should expect
>>>> to spend time inside with AC from late May until some time in
>>>> October.
>>>>
>>>> It's still 88-90°F in the afternoons here in southern SC.Â* It's
>>>> not yet cool enough (for me) to not use the AC.Â* Then again, I
>>>> prefer 71F.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I'm ok to at least 90. I can take brief periods higher. When I
>>> was working, our plant used steam in the process so it was always
>>> 15+ degrees hotter than outside. I spent half my day out there
>>> and the boiler room to do testing, even hotter. Of course, my
>>> wife likes it cooler.
>>>
>>
>> For as long as I can remember until I was out of college my dad was a
>> VP in the HVAC division of York Corp. As a consequence I can't remember
>> a time when we didn't have central air conditioning and forced air
>> heating in every house we lived in. My dad believed in maintaining 72F
>> throughout the year. I was spoiled by this, and I never wanted to go
>> to anyone's home that didn't have A/C. :-)
>> AC is one of the great inventions of modern times. My parents bought
>one that did the entire downstairs of our house. That was in the 1950s.
>We slept in the living room on hot nights. Since that time, I spent
>maybe one summer without AC in at least the bedroom.
>
>I don't know how people survived years ago in the cities.

They slept on the fire escape.

> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 23:02:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 10/4/2018 10:41 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Thu 04 Oct 2018 05:15:27p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>>>
>>>> On 10/4/2018 11:22 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 10/2/2018 1:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and
>>>>>> cold. Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for
>>>>>> July/August. At least there will be sunshine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed, unless you're comfortable with 80°F temps, you should expect
>>>>> to spend time inside with AC from late May until some time in
>>>>> October.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's still 88-90°F in the afternoons here in southern SC. It's
>>>>> not yet cool enough (for me) to not use the AC. Then again, I
>>>>> prefer 71F.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> I'm ok to at least 90. I can take brief periods higher. When I
>>>> was working, our plant used steam in the process so it was always
>>>> 15+ degrees hotter than outside. I spent half my day out there
>>>> and the boiler room to do testing, even hotter. Of course, my
>>>> wife likes it cooler.
>>>>
>>>
>>> For as long as I can remember until I was out of college my dad was a
>>> VP in the HVAC division of York Corp. As a consequence I can't remember
>>> a time when we didn't have central air conditioning and forced air
>>> heating in every house we lived in. My dad believed in maintaining 72F
>>> throughout the year. I was spoiled by this, and I never wanted to go
>>> to anyone's home that didn't have A/C. :-)
>>> AC is one of the great inventions of modern times. My parents bought
>>one that did the entire downstairs of our house. That was in the 1950s.
>>We slept in the living room on hot nights. Since that time, I spent
>>maybe one summer without AC in at least the bedroom.
>>
>>I don't know how people survived years ago in the cities.
>
> They slept on the fire escape.


When we were kids and it was really hot, no air conditioning, we slept
outside. I think that's why I hate rustic camping to this day. LOL

Cheri

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:49:09 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Ophelia" wrote in message ...
>
>>Gary, you ought to realise by now that janet NEVER jokes. Everything she
>>says is dripping with bile.
>
>Bile should be her middle name. Oh and Brag. Janet Bile Brag. That's
>it.
>
>==
>
>I have had the misfortune to have known her online for many years. I have
>never 'once', seen her any different!
>
>==
>
>I've been thinking about what she was saying, and I can only think she was
>around when we had a recession and house prices dived. I seem to remember I
>had a worries about a member of my family who was very ill. I had
>considered leaving my job and moving back down to care for her but the house
>wouldn't sell. In the end I was able to bring her up here.
>
>After that recession house prices bounced back and I can assure you, after I
>retired I had no problems selling )
>
>Anyway, I suspect Janet Bile Brag is spending night and day searching Google
>for comments by me at that time.
>
>She will drag something up, she always does

I'm sure she will.

We sold our previous place after a long wait for a low price, during
the recession. But we bought the current place during the recession as
well so that made up for it

"Brice" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:49:09 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Ophelia" wrote in message ...
>
>>Gary, you ought to realise by now that janet NEVER jokes. Everything she
>>says is dripping with bile.
>
>Bile should be her middle name. Oh and Brag. Janet Bile Brag. That's
>it.
>
>==
>
>I have had the misfortune to have known her online for many years. I have
>never 'once', seen her any different!
>
>==
>
>I've been thinking about what she was saying, and I can only think she was
>around when we had a recession and house prices dived. I seem to remember
>I
>had a worries about a member of my family who was very ill. I had
>considered leaving my job and moving back down to care for her but the
>house
>wouldn't sell. In the end I was able to bring her up here.
>
>After that recession house prices bounced back and I can assure you, after
>I
>retired I had no problems selling )
>
>Anyway, I suspect Janet Bile Brag is spending night and day searching
>Google
>for comments by me at that time.
>
>She will drag something up, she always does

I'm sure she will.

We sold our previous place after a long wait for a low price, during
the recession. But we bought the current place during the recession as
well so that made up for it

==

Brilliant) You were very lucky)

On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 11:53:52 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I grew up in Philadelphia. Like most big cities, it had the downtown
> core and as you left the center there were definite differences in the
> way things were built. My grandmother lived in a section that was built
> in the late 1800's with row houses, lots of concrete and asphalt. We
> live another 5 miles that was mostly built in the 1940s. Twin houses
> with yards and grass, wider streets. Not as noticeable in the middle of
> a hot summer day, but later in the evening, there was a good 10 degree
> temperature difference with less heat retention.
>
I can believe it. I live three miles from downtown one thing I have noticed
is trees, flowers, and bushes come into bloom much faster than those living
10-15 miles away. The temperature difference was also noticed to be lower
the further away I got from town; no jacket needed here but out in the sub-
burbs a sweater was appreciated.

On 2018-10-05 12:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I grew up in Philadelphia.Â* Like most big cities, it had the downtown
> core and as you left the center there were definite differences in the
> way things were built.


LOL thinking about the term "downtown core". It appeared in a letter to
the editor of the local weekly paper when they were talking about
putting in a traffic light for pedestrians. Someone wrote in about
others not understanding the complexities of the downtown core. This is
a bedroom community of less than 15,000 and the "downtown core" two
short blocks along one street.

On 2018-10-05 3:23 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message

>> They slept on the fire escape.
>
>
> When we were kids and it was really hot, no air conditioning, we slept
> outside. I think that's why I hate rustic camping to this day. LOL

I used to love to sleep out. I didn't even need a tent. Over the years I
lost interest in sleeping on the hard ground.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2018-10-05 3:23 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>
>>> They slept on the fire escape.
>>
>>
>> When we were kids and it was really hot, no air conditioning, we slept
>> outside. I think that's why I hate rustic camping to this day. LOL
>
> I used to love to sleep out. I didn't even need a tent. Over the years I
> lost interest in sleeping on the hard ground.
>
>


I never liked it, that's what my parents did for entertainment when we were
kids, camping with us. Probably because it was cheap.

Cheri

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I am very surprised at you, Gary. I had thought better of you, but if you
> are aligning yourself that that Vicious Piece Of Shit then I have no more
> time for you.

NO ultimatums, please.
I will respond to anyone here as I choose.
I have no problem with either of you.

> I expect you will be happy to accompany her in my bin!!! Just think of the
> fun times you will have *smile* Do let me know

Your choice, Oph
Either way, your contant hatred is only affecting you, not me or
JanetUK.
In the maybe 10 years that I've been here, JanetUK has actually
picked on ME way more than you. I still like her. Getting picked
on is the RFC way. Your sensitiveness really doesn't fit in here/

I don't think JanetUK is miserable living on an island. I
remember seeing a pic she posted of her garden years ago. Very
nice looking and I could see the ocean or bay in the background
very nearby. That seemed like an ideal place to live to me.

And since I'm now heading into your kill file, one last request.
Why don't you at least explain to Lucreitia why you hate her so
much. You got mad at her long ago and she never learned why. She
has asked you why many times and never gets an answer. I'm
willing to bet that YOU don't even remember why you got mad at
her, you just hold a grudge forever. That only haunts you, not
others.

www.apa.org/topics/anger/control.aspx

On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 10:28:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I am very surprised at you, Gary. I had thought better of you, but if you
>> are aligning yourself that that Vicious Piece Of Shit then I have no more
>> time for you.
>
>NO ultimatums, please.
>I will respond to anyone here as I choose.
>I have no problem with either of you.
>
>> I expect you will be happy to accompany her in my bin!!! Just think of the
>> fun times you will have *smile* Do let me know
>
>Your choice, Oph
>Either way, your contant hatred is only affecting you, not me or
>JanetUK.
>In the maybe 10 years that I've been here, JanetUK has actually
>picked on ME way more than you. I still like her. Getting picked
>on is the RFC way. Your sensitiveness really doesn't fit in here/
>
>I don't think JanetUK is miserable living on an island. I
>remember seeing a pic she posted of her garden years ago. Very
>nice looking and I could see the ocean or bay in the background
>very nearby. That seemed like an ideal place to live to me.
>
>And since I'm now heading into your kill file, one last request.
>Why don't you at least explain to Lucreitia why you hate her so
>much. You got mad at her long ago and she never learned why. She
>has asked you why many times and never gets an answer. I'm
>willing to bet that YOU don't even remember why you got mad at
>her, you just hold a grudge forever. That only haunts you, not
>others.
>
> www.apa.org/topics/anger/control.aspx

Since I KNOW I never said anything nasty to her, I figure she confused
herself with posts and who said what, she does that regularly, rather
than asking me direct. Oh well, water under the bridge now.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I am very surprised at you, Gary. I had thought better of you, but if you
> are aligning yourself that that Vicious Piece Of Shit then I have no more
> time for you.

NO ultimatums, please.
I will respond to anyone here as I choose.
I have no problem with either of you.

> I expect you will be happy to accompany her in my bin!!! Just think of
> the
> fun times you will have *smile* Do let me know

Your choice, Oph
Either way, your contant hatred is only affecting you, not me or
JanetUK.
In the maybe 10 years that I've been here, JanetUK has actually
picked on ME way more than you. I still like her. Getting picked
on is the RFC way. Your sensitiveness really doesn't fit in here/

I don't think JanetUK is miserable living on an island. I
remember seeing a pic she posted of her garden years ago. Very
nice looking and I could see the ocean or bay in the background
very nearby. That seemed like an ideal place to live to me.

And since I'm now heading into your kill file, one last request.
Why don't you at least explain to Lucreitia why you hate her so
much. You got mad at her long ago and she never learned why. She
has asked you why many times and never gets an answer. I'm
willing to bet that YOU don't even remember why you got mad at
her, you just hold a grudge forever. That only haunts you, not
others.

www.apa.org/topics/anger/control.aspx

==

Keep sticking your nose into my business and you will end up in my bin.

Keep poking and smiling.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I am very surprised at you, Gary. I had thought better of you, but if
>> you
>> are aligning yourself that that Vicious Piece Of Shit then I have no more
>> time for you.
>
> NO ultimatums, please.
> I will respond to anyone here as I choose.
> I have no problem with either of you.
>
>> I expect you will be happy to accompany her in my bin!!! Just think of
>> the
>> fun times you will have *smile* Do let me know
>
> Your choice, Oph
> Either way, your contant hatred is only affecting you, not me or
> JanetUK.
> In the maybe 10 years that I've been here, JanetUK has actually
> picked on ME way more than you. I still like her. Getting picked
> on is the RFC way. Your sensitiveness really doesn't fit in here/
>
> I don't think JanetUK is miserable living on an island. I
> remember seeing a pic she posted of her garden years ago. Very
> nice looking and I could see the ocean or bay in the background
> very nearby. That seemed like an ideal place to live to me.
>
> And since I'm now heading into your kill file, one last request.
> Why don't you at least explain to Lucreitia why you hate her so
> much. You got mad at her long ago and she never learned why. She
> has asked you why many times and never gets an answer. I'm
> willing to bet that YOU don't even remember why you got mad at
> her, you just hold a grudge forever. That only haunts you, not
> others.
>
> www.apa.org/topics/anger/control.aspx
>
> ==
>
> Keep sticking your nose into my business and you will end up in my bin.
>
> Keep poking and smiling.

Gary likes to stir things up every couple of months, wait for the humor
impaired "Girl Gang" ganging up on poor little "I was only joking, lighten
up" Gary next. Might as well give him what he wants. LOL

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I am very surprised at you, Gary. I had thought better of you, but if
>> you
>> are aligning yourself that that Vicious Piece Of Shit then I have no more
>> time for you.
>
> NO ultimatums, please.
> I will respond to anyone here as I choose.
> I have no problem with either of you.
>
>> I expect you will be happy to accompany her in my bin!!! Just think of
>> the
>> fun times you will have *smile* Do let me know
>
> Your choice, Oph
> Either way, your contant hatred is only affecting you, not me or
> JanetUK.
> In the maybe 10 years that I've been here, JanetUK has actually
> picked on ME way more than you. I still like her. Getting picked
> on is the RFC way. Your sensitiveness really doesn't fit in here/
>
> I don't think JanetUK is miserable living on an island. I
> remember seeing a pic she posted of her garden years ago. Very
> nice looking and I could see the ocean or bay in the background
> very nearby. That seemed like an ideal place to live to me.
>
> And since I'm now heading into your kill file, one last request.
> Why don't you at least explain to Lucreitia why you hate her so
> much. You got mad at her long ago and she never learned why. She
> has asked you why many times and never gets an answer. I'm
> willing to bet that YOU don't even remember why you got mad at
> her, you just hold a grudge forever. That only haunts you, not
> others.
>
> www.apa.org/topics/anger/control.aspx
>
> ==
>
> Keep sticking your nose into my business and you will end up in my bin.
>
> Keep poking and smiling.

Gary likes to stir things up every couple of months, wait for the humor
impaired "Girl Gang" ganging up on poor little "I was only joking, lighten
up" Gary next. Might as well give him what he wants. LOL

Cheri
==

Oh yes, I've seen that countless times *yawn*

On 10/3/2018 2:47 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 Gary wrote:
>>
>> Seem to be changing everywhere. Definitely different here in
>> Va.Beach since I moved here in 1973.
>
> Damn... you've been paying rent for going on FIFTY YEARS... do you
> realize how much of your cash you've flushed down the toilet (rent
> receipts have exactly the value of used TP).
> You could have purchased two nice houses for the cash you flushed.
> And here I thought you are smarter than Kootchie... no contest.
>
Not everyone wants to own a house, Sheldon. You don't seem to realize
that renters pay property taxes but those costs are included in the
rent. In some rare instances utilites such as water and even
electricity may be included in the rent. Don't have to mow lawns or
even think about landscaping. The management company handles all that
stuff along with repairs/replacements.

I loved my last apartment. 1100 sq. ft, 2 beds, 2 full baths. With a
nice 22 sq. ft. fenced patio. Private, quiet.

Now I have to pay for every little thing. Property taxes, homeowners
insurance (I always had renters insurance), plumbers, electricians. If
something breaks, I pay for it. Used to be I could just call the
apartment manager and they'd send someone over to repair or replace
whatever. Now I have to pay out of pocket.

Different mindset. You'll never understand.

Jill

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 12:53:06 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/3/2018 2:47 PM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> Seem to be changing everywhere. Definitely different here in
>>> Va.Beach since I moved here in 1973.
>>
>> Damn... you've been paying rent for going on FIFTY YEARS... do you
>> realize how much of your cash you've flushed down the toilet (rent
>> receipts have exactly the value of used TP).
>> You could have purchased two nice houses for the cash you flushed.
>> And here I thought you are smarter than Kootchie... no contest.
>>
>Not everyone wants to own a house, Sheldon. You don't seem to realize
>that renters pay property taxes but those costs are included in the
>rent. In some rare instances utilites such as water and even
>electricity may be included in the rent. Don't have to mow lawns or
>even think about landscaping. The management company handles all that
>stuff along with repairs/replacements.
>
>I loved my last apartment. 1100 sq. ft, 2 beds, 2 full baths. With a
>nice 22 sq. ft. fenced patio. Private, quiet.

You are a fool to have left.

>Now I have to pay for every little thing. Property taxes, homeowners
>insurance (I always had renters insurance), plumbers, electricians. If
>something breaks, I pay for it. Used to be I could just call the
>apartment manager and they'd send someone over to repair or replace
>whatever. Now I have to pay out of pocket.
>
>Different mindset. You'll never understand.
>
>Jill

Agreed, living in far more house than one needs and can comfortably
afford is definitely an albatross... but we already discussed that to
death. I understand your situation far better than you do, obviously
your parents left you no gift... it's punishment from the grave.

On 10/7/2018 1:43 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 12:53:06 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/3/2018 2:47 PM, wrote:
>>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Seem to be changing everywhere. Definitely different here in
>>>> Va.Beach since I moved here in 1973.
>>>
>>> Damn... you've been paying rent for going on FIFTY YEARS... do you
>>> realize how much of your cash you've flushed down the toilet (rent
>>> receipts have exactly the value of used TP).
>>> You could have purchased two nice houses for the cash you flushed.
>>> And here I thought you are smarter than Kootchie... no contest.
>>>
>> Not everyone wants to own a house, Sheldon. You don't seem to realize
>> that renters pay property taxes but those costs are included in the
>> rent. In some rare instances utilites such as water and even
>> electricity may be included in the rent. Don't have to mow lawns or
>> even think about landscaping. The management company handles all that
>> stuff along with repairs/replacements.
>>
>> I loved my last apartment. 1100 sq. ft, 2 beds, 2 full baths. With a
>> nice 22 sq. ft. fenced patio. Private, quiet.
>
> You are a fool to have left.
>
Right. I should have just been a bitch and said no, I won't come help
you Mom.

>> Now I have to pay for every little thing. Property taxes, homeowners
>> insurance (I always had renters insurance), plumbers, electricians. If
>> something breaks, I pay for it. Used to be I could just call the
>> apartment manager and they'd send someone over to repair or replace
>> whatever. Now I have to pay out of pocket.
>>
>> Different mindset. You'll never understand.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Agreed, living in far more house than one needs and can comfortably
> afford is definitely an albatross... but we already discussed that to
> death. I understand your situation far better than you do, obviously
> your parents left you no gift... it's punishment from the grave.
>
You will believe what you want to. Far more house? My house is not
that big. Point is, you're dissing Gary for renting. There are reasons
people rent. That's what you will never understand.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/7/2018 1:43 PM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 12:53:06 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/3/2018 2:47 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Seem to be changing everywhere. Definitely different here in
>>>>> Va.Beach since I moved here in 1973.
>>>>
>>>> Damn... you've been paying rent for going on FIFTY YEARS... do you
>>>> realize how much of your cash you've flushed down the toilet (rent
>>>> receipts have exactly the value of used TP).
>>>> You could have purchased two nice houses for the cash you flushed.
>>>> And here I thought you are smarter than Kootchie... no contest.
>>>>
>>> Not everyone wants to own a house, Sheldon. You don't seem to realize
>>> that renters pay property taxes but those costs are included in the
>>> rent. In some rare instances utilites such as water and even
>>> electricity may be included in the rent. Don't have to mow lawns or
>>> even think about landscaping. The management company handles all that
>>> stuff along with repairs/replacements.
>>>
>>> I loved my last apartment. 1100 sq. ft, 2 beds, 2 full baths. With a
>>> nice 22 sq. ft. fenced patio. Private, quiet.
>>
>> You are a fool to have left.
>>
> Right. I should have just been a bitch and said no, I won't come help
> you Mom.
>
>>> Now I have to pay for every little thing. Property taxes, homeowners
>>> insurance (I always had renters insurance), plumbers, electricians. If
>>> something breaks, I pay for it. Used to be I could just call the
>>> apartment manager and they'd send someone over to repair or replace
>>> whatever. Now I have to pay out of pocket.
>>>
>>> Different mindset. You'll never understand.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Agreed, living in far more house than one needs and can comfortably
>> afford is definitely an albatross... but we already discussed that to
>> death. I understand your situation far better than you do, obviously
>> your parents left you no gift... it's punishment from the grave.
>>
> You will believe what you want to. Far more house? My house is not
> that big. Point is, you're dissing Gary for renting. There are reasons
> people rent. That's what you will never understand.
>
> Jill

Does your house have a basement?

That could be what Popeye is upset over.

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 14:40:16 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/7/2018 1:43 PM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 12:53:06 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/3/2018 2:47 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Seem to be changing everywhere. Definitely different here in
>>>>> Va.Beach since I moved here in 1973.
>>>>
>>>> Damn... you've been paying rent for going on FIFTY YEARS... do you
>>>> realize how much of your cash you've flushed down the toilet (rent
>>>> receipts have exactly the value of used TP).
>>>> You could have purchased two nice houses for the cash you flushed.
>>>> And here I thought you are smarter than Kootchie... no contest.
>>>>
>>> Not everyone wants to own a house, Sheldon. You don't seem to realize
>>> that renters pay property taxes but those costs are included in the
>>> rent. In some rare instances utilites such as water and even
>>> electricity may be included in the rent. Don't have to mow lawns or
>>> even think about landscaping. The management company handles all that
>>> stuff along with repairs/replacements.
>>>
>>> I loved my last apartment. 1100 sq. ft, 2 beds, 2 full baths. With a
>>> nice 22 sq. ft. fenced patio. Private, quiet.
>>
>> You are a fool to have left.
>>
>Right. I should have just been a bitch and said no, I won't come help
>you Mom.
>
>>> Now I have to pay for every little thing. Property taxes, homeowners
>>> insurance (I always had renters insurance), plumbers, electricians. If
>>> something breaks, I pay for it. Used to be I could just call the
>>> apartment manager and they'd send someone over to repair or replace
>>> whatever. Now I have to pay out of pocket.
>>>
>>> Different mindset. You'll never understand.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Agreed, living in far more house than one needs and can comfortably
>> afford is definitely an albatross... but we already discussed that to
>> death. I understand your situation far better than you do, obviously
>> your parents left you no gift... it's punishment from the grave.
>>
>You will believe what you want to. Far more house? My house is not
>that big. Point is, you're dissing Gary for renting. There are reasons
>people rent. That's what you will never understand.
>
>Jill

No one rents for fifty years unless they're scared of home ownership.

On 10/7/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:

>> You will believe what you want to. Far more house? My house is not
>> that big. Point is, you're dissing Gary for renting. There are reasons
>> people rent. That's what you will never understand.
>>
>> Jill
>
> No one rents for fifty years unless they're scared of home ownership.
>

For most of us, home ownership is the American dream. I know a few
people that have no desire to own a home. They don't want the
responsibility of upkeep and maintenance. I also know a couple of
people that owned a home and divorced and now prefer to rent.

Others move a lot. My daughter has had about 25 addresses in her 50
years. She has owned but does not want to any more.

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 21:09:03 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/7/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:
>
>>> You will believe what you want to. Far more house? My house is not
>>> that big. Point is, you're dissing Gary for renting. There are reasons
>>> people rent. That's what you will never understand.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> No one rents for fifty years unless they're scared of home ownership.
>>
>
>For most of us, home ownership is the American dream. I know a few
>people that have no desire to own a home. They don't want the
>responsibility of upkeep and maintenance. I also know a couple of
>people that owned a home and divorced and now prefer to rent.
>
>Others move a lot. My daughter has had about 25 addresses in her 50
>years. She has owned but does not want to any more.

It's actually much simpler than that. Sheldon owns a house. Therefore,
everybody should own a house. Owning a house is the way to go. It's
the only way, because it's Sheldon's way!

Brice wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 21:09:03 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 10/7/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:
>>
>>>> You will believe what you want to. Far more house? My house is not
>>>> that big. Point is, you're dissing Gary for renting. There are reasons
>>>> people rent. That's what you will never understand.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> No one rents for fifty years unless they're scared of home ownership.
>>>
>>
>> For most of us, home ownership is the American dream. I know a few
>> people that have no desire to own a home. They don't want the
>> responsibility of upkeep and maintenance. I also know a couple of
>> people that owned a home and divorced and now prefer to rent.
>>
>> Others move a lot. My daughter has had about 25 addresses in her 50
>> years. She has owned but does not want to any more.
>
> It's actually much simpler than that. Sheldon owns a house. Therefore,
> everybody should own a house. Owning a house is the way to go. It's
> the only way, because it's Sheldon's way!
>

And it *must* have a basement and an RO water filter.

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 5:08:38 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:

> No one rents for fifty years unless they're scared of home ownership.

Or cannot come up with a down payment. How high do you want minimum
wage to be?

Cindy Hamilton

On 2018-10-08 6:02 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 5:08:38 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> No one rents for fifty years unless they're scared of home ownership.
>
> Or cannot come up with a down payment. How high do you want minimum
> wage to be?

My son recently put in an offer on a house and is looking for financing.
There is a huge mortgage insurance premium if you don't have 20% to put
down on it. He is making pretty good money now, but he is wishing that
he had saved more instead of going on so many expensive vacations.

On 10/7/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 14:40:16 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> You will believe what you want to. Far more house? My house is not
>> that big. Point is, you're dissing Gary for renting. There are reasons
>> people rent. That's what you will never understand.
>>
>> Jill
>
> No one rents for fifty years unless they're scared of home ownership.
>
You're still ignoring the reasons I wrote. For some people there are
many benefits to renting.

When I'm dead it won't matter. I *do* have a Will which states my
brothers won't get their hands on it. Aside from a few personal
bequests, I'm leaving everything to the Beaufort County Animal Shelter.

Jill

On 10/4/2018 10:41 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 04 Oct 2018 05:15:27p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
>> On 10/4/2018 11:22 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 10/2/2018 1:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and
>>>> cold. Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for
>>>> July/August. At least there will be sunshine.
>>>
>>> Ed, unless you're comfortable with 80°F temps, you should expect
>>> to spend time inside with AC from late May until some time in
>>> October.
>>>
>>> It's still 88-90°F in the afternoons here in southern SC.ÂÂ* It's
>>> not yet cool enough (for me) to not use the AC.ÂÂ* Then again, I
>>> prefer 71F.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I'm ok to at least 90. I can take brief periods higher. When I
>> was working, our plant used steam in the process so it was always
>> 15+ degrees hotter than outside. I spent half my day out there
>> and the boiler room to do testing, even hotter. Of course, my
>> wife likes it cooler.
>>
>
> For as long as I can remember until I was out of college my dad was a
> VP in the HVAC division of York Corp. As a consequence I can't remember
> a time when we didn't have central air conditioning and forced air
> heating in every house we lived in. My dad believed in maintaining 72F
> throughout the year. I was spoiled by this, and I never wanted to go
> to anyone's home that didn't have A/C. :-)
>
I take a friend grocery shopping once in a while. She keeps her house
at 80° and I can't stand it. Even with a ceiling fan, I start to feel
sick when it is that hot.

It's never less than 72° in my house during the warm months. In
"winter", the cooler the better!

My mother kept the temp set at 80-82. OMG, I couldn't stand it. I kept
telling her, you can always put on more clothes. There is only so much
I can take off. LOL

Jill

On 2018-10-08 12:48 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>> When I'm dead it won't matter. I *do* have a Will which states my
>> brothers won't get their hands on it. Aside from a few personal
>> bequests, I'm leaving everything to the Beaufort County Animal
>> Shelter.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> Good for you, Jill. David and I are doing the same thing here in
> PHX.
>


My current will leaves everything to my wife. I should update it one of
these days and so that it will go to her and should predecease our son
then everything will go to him. If they are both gone, then the estate
will be shared by my younger brother and some of my nieces and nephews.
I believe that you have to be fair with your children, but you can show
favourtism to nieces and nephews. Some have been closer to me than the
others.

FWIW, my oldest brother was upset that my father did not leave
everything to him..... he being the oldest. My other brothers and I
were a little ****ed at his reaction. Our mother was still alive. As far
as the other two and I were concerned, he should have left everything to
our mother. For us, that was a given.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 10/7/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:
> > On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 14:40:16 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You will believe what you want to. Far more house? My house is not
> >> that big. Point is, you're dissing Gary for renting. There are reasons
> >> people rent. That's what you will never understand.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > No one rents for fifty years unless they're scared of home ownership.
> >
> You're still ignoring the reasons I wrote. For some people there are
> many benefits to renting.
>
> When I'm dead it won't matter. I *do* have a Will which states my
> brothers won't get their hands on it. Aside from a few personal
> bequests, I'm leaving everything to the Beaufort County Animal Shelter.
>
> Jill

Family Feuds. Whenever my Mom dies, I hope it doesn't come to
that.
Also...I don't need or ever counted on her money. I seriously
hope she outlives me. I'd much rather have Mom to talk to each
week.

On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 1:13:56 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > On 10/7/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:
> > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 14:40:16 -0400, jmcquown >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> You will believe what you want to. Far more house? My house is not
> > >> that big. Point is, you're dissing Gary for renting. There are reasons
> > >> people rent. That's what you will never understand.
> > >>
> > >> Jill
> > >
> > > No one rents for fifty years unless they're scared of home ownership.
> > >
> > You're still ignoring the reasons I wrote. For some people there are
> > many benefits to renting.
> >
> > When I'm dead it won't matter. I *do* have a Will which states my
> > brothers won't get their hands on it. Aside from a few personal
> > bequests, I'm leaving everything to the Beaufort County Animal Shelter.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Family Feuds. Whenever my Mom dies, I hope it doesn't come to
> that.
> Also...I don't need or ever counted on her money. I seriously
> hope she outlives me. I'd much rather have Mom to talk to each
> week.

Why would you wish that on your mother? My father-in-law outlived
two of his sons, and it nearly broke his heart.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Why would you wish that on your mother? My father-in-law outlived
> two of his sons, and it nearly broke his heart.

I didn't explain right. No...She should die first, then her kids.
I just don't want her leaving anytime soon.

On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 1:35:54 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Why would you wish that on your mother? My father-in-law outlived
> > two of his sons, and it nearly broke his heart.
>
> I didn't explain right. No...She should die first, then her kids.
> I just don't want her leaving anytime soon.

Ok, that's more understandable. My husband misses his mother quite
a bit.

Cindy Hamilton