On 9/11/2018 10:52 PM, Druce wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:09:07 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-09-11 8:05 PM, Druce wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>> One serious e-mailed comment to a newspaper article said that a white
>>>> cartoonist shouldn't have drawn that cartoon, which is carrying cultural
>>>> appropriation to ridiculous levels!
>>>> I thought the cartoon was OK, not that I care a ff about tennis, which
>>>> is more boring than US football.
>>>
>>> If I absolutely had to choose, I'd rather watch tennis than any
>>> footbal that's played mainly with the hands.
>>>
>> Actually, I detest both and would rather watch bread dough rise!
>
> Detest is a strong word for a sport you're not interested in.
>

I don't detest them, just a choice not to watch them. I will watch some
Olympic events and I've been to some actual games over the years. Most
on TV are just filler between commercials and the players are all about
money. Oh, they do have much more ability than I have too.

If approached by two friends with extra tickets and one invited me to
championship football game the other to the Symphony orchestra, I'm
going for the music.

On 2018-09-12 11:41 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I don't detest them, just a choice not to watch them.Â* I will watch some
> Olympic events and I've been to some actual games over the years.Â* Most
> on TV are just filler between commercials and the players are all about
> money.Â* Oh, they do have much more ability than I have too.

Sports are for playing, not for watching. I played football in high
school, but I rarely watch it. I played hockey when I was a kid. Skates
and I never got along, but I used to watch it occasionally. I stopped a
couple years ago when they had that labour dispute.


> If approached by two friends with extra tickets and one invited me to
> championship football game the other to the Symphony orchestra,Â* I'm
> going for the music.

I would agree. A symphony or theatre tickets would be better. I can't
believe the prices they charge for some sports venues. Riding around
here in the summer I often come across horse shows. I love watching
hunter jumper events, and they are free.

On 2018-09-11 23:57:53 +0000, Wayne Boatwright said:

> On Tue 11 Sep 2018 04:07:52p, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 9/11/2018 4:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't
>>> write this response to "it."
>>>
>> Nancy2, I don't get the BBC channel so how would I know about
>> their "angle" on Serena Williams? Even if I did, I sure wouldn't
>> post about it here. The forged posts just keep getting more lame.
>>
>> OB Food: Spaghetti with Italian sausage.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> And sauce?

What is the rest of the recipe?
Balls f.i.?

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
15.223...
> On Wed 12 Sep 2018 08:41:06a, Ed Pawlowski told us...

>> If approached by two friends with extra tickets and one invited me
>> to championship football game the other to the Symphony orchestra,
>> I'm going for the music.
>>
>
> So would I, Ed. Going to the symphony or theatre is a far better way
> for me to spend my time.

Don't worry, the symphony goers will always have extra tickets. LOL

Cheri

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:39:37 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Wed 12 Sep 2018 08:40:01a, U.S. Janet B. told us...
>
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 22:14:47 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>> Oh come on, Steve. I'd get rid of the many incarnations of ESPN
>>>> if I could. Same thing with high school or college football on
>>>> the local channels. I don't care, don't want to watch any of
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>I love the NFL, Major league basebll, and some NBA. I don't care
>>>for tennis, soccer, and just about any other sport especially at
>>>the college and high school level.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> Posters in this group ascribe to the belief that if they say they
>> would never, don't like, haven't had, it makes them special and
>> better than others. Aside from the trolls, that kind of
>> conversation is the majority of the rest of rfc.
>
>Janet, I don't consider myself either special or better than anyone
>else.

Not both?

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:41:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/11/2018 10:52 PM, Druce wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:09:07 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>> If I absolutely had to choose, I'd rather watch tennis than any
>>>> footbal that's played mainly with the hands.
>>>>
>>> Actually, I detest both and would rather watch bread dough rise!
>>
>> Detest is a strong word for a sport you're not interested in.
>>
>
>I don't detest them, just a choice not to watch them. I will watch some
>Olympic events and I've been to some actual games over the years. Most
>on TV are just filler between commercials and the players are all about
>money. Oh, they do have much more ability than I have too.
>
>If approached by two friends with extra tickets and one invited me to
>championship football game the other to the Symphony orchestra, I'm
>going for the music.

I agree. The big sports are completely about money. Take the Champions
League soccer final: one bunch of millionaires playing another bunch.
Why should I care which millionaires will win? They also have no ties
to the club they play for, except money ties.

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:48:07 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
. 115.223...
>> On Wed 12 Sep 2018 08:41:06a, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
>>> If approached by two friends with extra tickets and one invited me
>>> to championship football game the other to the Symphony orchestra,
>>> I'm going for the music.
>>>
>>
>> So would I, Ed. Going to the symphony or theatre is a far better way
>> for me to spend my time.
>
>Don't worry, the symphony goers will always have extra tickets. LOL

They won't have any competition from me.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> When I was growing up my parents always dragged me to baseball and
> football games. I considered it tortuous. I don't care what other
> people do, but I don't care to do it.
>
Did your folks know you were a fruitcake at an early age?

I'm sure they were proud.

writes:
>On 2018-09-11 5:51 PM, wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>this response to "it."
>>>
>>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
>No male player in a
>>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to
>reports. So I, for
>>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was
>inappropriate, to say
>>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a
>warning.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>> Even John McEnroe has said he behaved far more badly but was never
>> penalized for it. It was a shame it all spoilt the joy the Japanese
>> girl should have been having, for that I would criticize Serena.
>>
>
>John McEnroe was disqualified in 1990 for three code violations.
>In 1995, Jeff Tarrango was suspended after yelling at spectators and
>accused the umpire of corruption.Irena Spirlea was disqualifed for
>using abusive language against officials. Andre Agassi was disqualifed
>for ball abuse ad verbal abuse. David Nalbandian was disqualifed foir
>for injuring an official and kicking an advertising sign. Darian King
>was disqualified when he three his racquet and hit a lineswoman. Earlier
>this year Yan Marti was disqualified for pointing his racquet at his
>opponent and saying "You can put this in your butt."

cherry picking is hard work

not surprising that Dave Smith is out in front strenuously defending the
patriarchy

in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
experience??

On 2018-09-12 3:25 PM, turd in seattle wrote:
> writes:
>> On 2018-09-11 5:51 PM, wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>> this response to "it."
>>>>
>>>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
>> No male player in a
>>>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to
>> reports. So I, for
>>>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was
>> inappropriate, to say
>>>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a
>> warning.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>
>>> Even John McEnroe has said he behaved far more badly but was never
>>> penalized for it. It was a shame it all spoilt the joy the Japanese
>>> girl should have been having, for that I would criticize Serena.
>>>
>>
>> John McEnroe was disqualified in 1990 for three code violations.
>> In 1995, Jeff Tarrango was suspended after yelling at spectators and
>> accused the umpire of corruption.Irena Spirlea was disqualifed for
>> using abusive language against officials. Andre Agassi was disqualifed
>> for ball abuse ad verbal abuse. David Nalbandian was disqualifed foir
>> for injuring an official and kicking an advertising sign. Darian King
>> was disqualified when he three his racquet and hit a lineswoman. Earlier
>> this year Yan Marti was disqualified for pointing his racquet at his
>> opponent and saying "You can put this in your butt."
>
> cherry picking is hard work
>
> not surprising that Dave Smith is out in front strenuously defending the
> patriarchy

Bullshit. A claim was made that "John McEnroe has said he behaved far
more badly but was never penalized for it". I don't follow tennis much,
but it didn't take much research to find out that, in fact, McEnroe had
been suspended for three code violations. There was no cherry picking.
Those examples came from the same source and were all listed together.
We are supposed to have a pity party for the woman who had a temper
tantrum when she got caught breaking the rules, which her coach admitted
doing, and then people started to make claims or to repeat claims that
are apparently not true.



> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
> experience??

You could actually look it up yourself.

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 19:27:47 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Wed 12 Sep 2018 12:19:33p, Kathy Martin told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> When I was growing up my parents always dragged me to baseball and
>>> football games. I considered it tortuous. I don't care what other
>>> people do, but I don't care to do it.
>>>
>> Did your folks know you were a fruitcake at an early age?
>>
>> I'm sure they were proud.
>>
>
> Did your folks know that you ate fruitcake at an early age?

Ouch - Burn! Oh, uhh, wait...... what?!?! <boggle>

-sw

tert in seattle wrote:

> writes:
> >On 2018-09-11 5:51 PM, wrote:
> >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
> >this response to "it."
> >>>
> >>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
> >No male player in a
> >>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to
> >reports. So I, for
> >>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was
> >inappropriate, to say
> >>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a
> >warning.
> >>>
> >>> N.
> >>
> >> Even John McEnroe has said he behaved far more badly but was never
> >> penalized for it. It was a shame it all spoilt the joy the Japanese
> >> girl should have been having, for that I would criticize Serena.
> >>
> >
> >John McEnroe was disqualified in 1990 for three code violations.
> >In 1995, Jeff Tarrango was suspended after yelling at spectators and
> >accused the umpire of corruption.Irena Spirlea was disqualifed for
> >using abusive language against officials. Andre Agassi was disqualifed
> >for ball abuse ad verbal abuse. David Nalbandian was disqualifed foir
> >for injuring an official and kicking an advertising sign. Darian King
> >was disqualified when he three his racquet and hit a lineswoman. Earlier
> >this year Yan Marti was disqualified for pointing his racquet at his
> >opponent and saying "You can put this in your butt."
>
> cherry picking is hard work
>
> not surprising that Dave Smith is out in front strenuously defending the
> patriarchy
>
> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
> experience??


Plus, Smith would make a lousy *******...

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Greg

writes:
>On 2018-09-12 3:25 PM, turd in seattle wrote:
>> writes:
>>> On 2018-09-11 5:51 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>>> this response to "it."
>>>>>
>>>>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
>>> No male player in a
>>>>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to
>>> reports. So I, for
>>>>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was
>>> inappropriate, to say
>>>>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a
>>> warning.
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>> Even John McEnroe has said he behaved far more badly but was never
>>>> penalized for it. It was a shame it all spoilt the joy the Japanese
>>>> girl should have been having, for that I would criticize Serena.
>>>>
>>>
>>> John McEnroe was disqualified in 1990 for three code violations.
>>> In 1995, Jeff Tarrango was suspended after yelling at spectators and
>>> accused the umpire of corruption.Irena Spirlea was disqualifed for
>>> using abusive language against officials. Andre Agassi was disqualifed
>>> for ball abuse ad verbal abuse. David Nalbandian was disqualifed foir
>>> for injuring an official and kicking an advertising sign. Darian King
>>> was disqualified when he three his racquet and hit a lineswoman. Earlier
>>> this year Yan Marti was disqualified for pointing his racquet at his
>>> opponent and saying "You can put this in your butt."
>>
>> cherry picking is hard work
>>
>> not surprising that Dave Smith is out in front strenuously defending the
>> patriarchy
>
>Bullshit. A claim was made that "John McEnroe has said he behaved far
>more badly but was never penalized for it". I don't follow tennis much,
>but it didn't take much research to find out that, in fact, McEnroe had
>been suspended for three code violations. There was no cherry picking.
>Those examples came from the same source and were all listed together.

didn't take much research ... and yet you sound so certain


>We are supposed to have a pity party for the woman who had a temper
>tantrum when she got caught breaking the rules, which her coach admitted
>doing, and then people started to make claims or to repeat claims that
>are apparently not true.

no one said anything about a pity party



>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>> experience??
>
>You could actually look it up yourself.

you could start listening to women

Lil' Wayne Boatwright wrote:

I had ALL of the sports channels removed
> from our cable service.


Isn't it true that you and Miss David's fave channel is "The NAMBLA Network", Lil' Wayne...???

--
Best
Greg

On 2018-09-12 5:02 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:

>>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>>> experience??
>>
>> You could actually look it up yourself.
>
> you could start listening to women
>
>
Even a cow like Serena?

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-12 5:02 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> writes:
>
>>>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>>>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>>>> experience??
>>>
>>> You could actually look it up yourself.
>>
>> you could start listening to women
>>
>>
>Even a cow like Serena?

Djokovic and Del Somethingo were on her side too.

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-12 5:02 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> writes:
>
>>>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>>>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>>>> experience??
>>>
>>> You could actually look it up yourself.
>>
>> you could start listening to women
>>
>>
>Even a cow like Serena?

that's pretty awful, Graham.

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 21:38:43 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 2018-09-12 5:02 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>> writes:
>>
>>>>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>>>>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>>>>> experience??
>>>>
>>>> You could actually look it up yourself.
>>>
>>> you could start listening to women
>>>
>>>
>>Even a cow like Serena?
>
>that's pretty awful, Graham.

If he's not interested in a sport, he detests it. If he doesn't like a
woman, she's a cow. Don't worry, that's just how 17 year olds talk.

I don't care about pro football, but do watch my alma mater university games. They are
usually on BTN (Big10).

N.

On 2018-09-12 11:38 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-09-12 5:02 PM, turd in seattle wrote:
>>> writes:
>>
>>>>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>>>>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>>>>> experience??
>>>>
>>>> You could actually look it up yourself.
>>>
>>> you could start listening to women
>>>
>>>
>> Even a cow like Serena?
>
> that's pretty awful, Graham.
>

I don't even know where that came from. I think she is pretty damned hot.

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-12 5:02 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> writes:
>
>>>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>>>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>>>> experience??
>>>
>>> You could actually look it up yourself.
>>
>> you could start listening to women
>>
>>
>Even a cow like Serena?

She is 5'9" and weighs 155. That is a BMI of 22.9.

Are you joking and trying to be funny in a very unfunny way?

Osaka is 5'11" and weighs 152. BMI of 21.2.

BMI is not an fully accurate reflection or health or stature, of
course, but we are making direct comparisons here, not health
comments.

On 9/13/2018 10:47 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:

>> Even a cow like Serena?
>
> She is 5'9" and weighs 155. That is a BMI of 22.9.

Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???

> Are you joking and trying to be funny in a very unfunny way?

There is nothing funny about calling anyone names like that.

> Osaka is 5'11" and weighs 152. BMI of 21.2.
>
> BMI is not an fully accurate reflection or health or stature, of
> course, but we are making direct comparisons here, not health
> comments.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/13/2018 10:47 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>> Even a cow like Serena?
>>
>> She is 5'9" and weighs 155. That is a BMI of 22.9.
>
> Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???
>
>> Are you joking and trying to be funny in a very unfunny way?
>
> There is nothing funny about calling anyone names like that.
>
>> Osaka is 5'11" and weighs 152. BMI of 21.2.
>>
>> BMI is not an fully accurate reflection or health or stature, of
>> course, but we are making direct comparisons here, not health
>> comments.
>
> nancy


Yep, I have never heard any woman being called a cow where it was a
compliment, it's disgusting IMO, inferring big, slow moving, stupid, and
clumsy, which Serena definitely is not.

Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 9/13/2018 10:47 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
> >
> >>> Even a cow like Serena?
> >>
> >> She is 5'9" and weighs 155. That is a BMI of 22.9.
> >
> > Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???
> >
> >> Are you joking and trying to be funny in a very unfunny way?
> >
> > There is nothing funny about calling anyone names like that.
> >
> >> Osaka is 5'11" and weighs 152. BMI of 21.2.
> >>
> >> BMI is not an fully accurate reflection or health or stature, of
> >> course, but we are making direct comparisons here, not health
> >> comments.
> >
> > nancy
>
>
> Yep, I have never heard any woman being called a cow where it was a
> compliment, it's disgusting IMO, inferring big, slow moving, stupid, and
> clumsy, which Serena definitely is not.

Graham, an ex-Brit iirc, is probably using it in the Brit slang
sense, which roughly translates as calling a woman a bitch.

Calling a woman a cow, isn't a reference to bovine similarities, nor
is calling her a bitch a reference to doglike qualities. Calling her a
bird, hen, duck,chick doesn't remotely imply she flies and has feathers.

Janet UK

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:21:57 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 21:38:43 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2018-09-12 5:02 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>>> writes:
>>>
>>>>>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>>>>>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>>>>>> experience??
>>>>>
>>>>> You could actually look it up yourself.
>>>>
>>>> you could start listening to women
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Even a cow like Serena?
>>
>>that's pretty awful, Graham.
>
>If he's not interested in a sport, he detests it. If he doesn't like a
>woman, she's a cow. Don't worry, that's just how 17 year olds talk.

If Serena is a cow she's a mightily toned cow... she could give Graham
a wholloping he'd be lucky to survive.

I'm not a big sports person, I don't like team sports and don't follow
any, but I do enjoy most individual sports.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:40:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-09-12 11:38 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-09-12 5:02 PM, turd in seattle wrote:
>>>> writes:
>>>
>>>>>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>>>>>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>>>>>> experience??
>>>>>
>>>>> You could actually look it up yourself.
>>>>
>>>> you could start listening to women
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Even a cow like Serena?
>>
>> that's pretty awful, Graham.
>>
>
>I don't even know where that came from. I think she is pretty damned hot.

I'd have to throw her out of bed... there's more room on the floor.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:21:26 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>> On 9/13/2018 10:47 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>> Even a cow like Serena?
>>>
>>> She is 5'9" and weighs 155. That is a BMI of 22.9.
>>
>> Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???
>>
>>> Are you joking and trying to be funny in a very unfunny way?
>>
>> There is nothing funny about calling anyone names like that.
>>
>>> Osaka is 5'11" and weighs 152. BMI of 21.2.
>>>
>>> BMI is not an fully accurate reflection or health or stature, of
>>> course, but we are making direct comparisons here, not health
>>> comments.
>>
>> nancy
>
>
>Yep, I have never heard any woman being called a cow where it was a
>compliment, it's disgusting IMO, inferring big, slow moving, stupid, and
>clumsy, which Serena definitely is not.
>
>Cheri

Years ago when I worked for Leviton (electrical products) one of the
office women would stroll through toolroom, I named her The Dairy
Queen... guess why.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:48:42 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 9/13/2018 10:47 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Even a cow like Serena?
>> >>
>> >> She is 5'9" and weighs 155. That is a BMI of 22.9.
>> >
>> > Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???
>> >
>> >> Are you joking and trying to be funny in a very unfunny way?
>> >
>> > There is nothing funny about calling anyone names like that.
>> >
>> >> Osaka is 5'11" and weighs 152. BMI of 21.2.
>> >>
>> >> BMI is not an fully accurate reflection or health or stature, of
>> >> course, but we are making direct comparisons here, not health
>> >> comments.
>> >
>> > nancy
>>
>>
>> Yep, I have never heard any woman being called a cow where it was a
>> compliment, it's disgusting IMO, inferring big, slow moving, stupid, and
>> clumsy, which Serena definitely is not.
>
> Graham, an ex-Brit iirc, is probably using it in the Brit slang
>sense, which roughly translates as calling a woman a bitch.
>
> Calling a woman a cow, isn't a reference to bovine similarities, nor
>is calling her a bitch a reference to doglike qualities. Calling her a
>bird, hen, duck,chick doesn't remotely imply she flies and has feathers.
>
> Janet UK

I've referred to a few women as "Elsie", meant as a compliment.
I think cows are very sexual.

NOM
> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this
> response to "it."
>
> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly. No male
> player in a tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to
> reports. So I, for one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her
> reaction was inappropriate, to say the least. But I also agree that the
> referee should have given her a warning.
>
> N.
>

Whats a word the begins with N, ends in R and
you never want to a call a black person?

Neighbor.

On 9/13/2018 11:48 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>>> Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???

>> Yep, I have never heard any woman being called a cow where it was a
>> compliment, it's disgusting IMO, inferring big, slow moving, stupid, and
>> clumsy, which Serena definitely is not.
>
> Graham, an ex-Brit iirc, is probably using it in the Brit slang
> sense, which roughly translates as calling a woman a bitch.

It's better than how we take someone being called a cow, still, she
had a meltdown and she's a bitch? What do you call men who have done
the same?

nancy

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 9/13/2018 10:47 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Even a cow like Serena?
>> >>
>> >> She is 5'9" and weighs 155. That is a BMI of 22.9.
>> >
>> > Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???
>> >
>> >> Are you joking and trying to be funny in a very unfunny way?
>> >
>> > There is nothing funny about calling anyone names like that.
>> >
>> >> Osaka is 5'11" and weighs 152. BMI of 21.2.
>> >>
>> >> BMI is not an fully accurate reflection or health or stature, of
>> >> course, but we are making direct comparisons here, not health
>> >> comments.
>> >
>> > nancy
>>
>>
>> Yep, I have never heard any woman being called a cow where it was a
>> compliment, it's disgusting IMO, inferring big, slow moving, stupid, and
>> clumsy, which Serena definitely is not.
>
> Graham, an ex-Brit iirc, is probably using it in the Brit slang
> sense, which roughly translates as calling a woman a bitch.
>
> Calling a woman a cow, isn't a reference to bovine similarities, nor
> is calling her a bitch a reference to doglike qualities. Calling her a
> bird, hen, duck,chick doesn't remotely imply she flies and has feathers.
>
> Janet UK


I have no idea what it means in a Brit slang sense, but calling her a bitch
is even worse IMO, I only know what it means in the USA which is stated in
my post.

Cheri

> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:21:26 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 9/13/2018 10:47 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Even a cow like Serena?
>>>>
>>>> She is 5'9" and weighs 155. That is a BMI of 22.9.
>>>
>>> Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???
>>>
>>>> Are you joking and trying to be funny in a very unfunny way?
>>>
>>> There is nothing funny about calling anyone names like that.
>>>
>>>> Osaka is 5'11" and weighs 152. BMI of 21.2.
>>>>
>>>> BMI is not an fully accurate reflection or health or stature, of
>>>> course, but we are making direct comparisons here, not health
>>>> comments.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>>
>>Yep, I have never heard any woman being called a cow where it was a
>>compliment, it's disgusting IMO, inferring big, slow moving, stupid, and
>>clumsy, which Serena definitely is not.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> Years ago when I worked for Leviton (electrical products) one of the
> office women would stroll through toolroom, I named her The Dairy
> Queen... guess why.


Gee, I couldn't even venture a guess. LOL

Cheri

On 9/13/2018 12:31 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

> It's better than how we take someone being called a cow, still, she
> had a meltdown and she's a bitch?Â* What do you call men who have done
> the same?
>
> nancy

Role model? Millionaire? Seems to work that way.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 9/13/2018 11:48 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
> >>> Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???
>
> >> Yep, I have never heard any woman being called a cow where it was a
> >> compliment, it's disgusting IMO, inferring big, slow moving, stupid, and
> >> clumsy, which Serena definitely is not.
> >
> > Graham, an ex-Brit iirc, is probably using it in the Brit slang
> > sense, which roughly translates as calling a woman a bitch.
>
> It's better than how we take someone being called a cow, still, she
> had a meltdown and she's a bitch? What do you call men who have done
> the same?

son of a bitch, prick, dick, arsehole

Janet.

On 2018-09-13 12:31 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/13/2018 11:48 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>>> Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???
>
>>> Yep, I have never heard any woman being called a cow where it was a
>>> compliment, it's disgusting IMO, inferring big, slow moving, stupid, and
>>> clumsy, which Serena definitely is not.
>>
>> Â*Â* Graham, an ex-Brit iirc, isÂ* probably using it in the Brit slang
>> sense, which roughly translates as calling a woman a bitch.
>
> It's better than how we take someone being called a cow, still, she
> had a meltdown and she's a bitch?Â* What do you call men who have done
> the same?
>

McEnroe? Asshole? Poor sport. Her behaviour was unacceptable. She got
caught violating the rule about coaching. Her coach even admitted that
he has been coach, and said everyone does it. She broke her racquet.
She then complained about being penalized for that. Now she is whining
about it as if it was about her colour or her gender and not her bad
behaviour.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> I don't care about pro football, but do watch my alma mater university games. They are
> usually on BTN (Big10)

I've never liked watching college football games until my
daughter attended UVA. Then it was fun to watch but just that one
team.

I think that having a special team and maybe a second choice is
what makes watching football interesting. I don't watch every
game that shows up. My team is NE Patriots. I watch and enjoy
those games. 2nd choice changes from year to year but never my
closest team - Washington Redskins who are the choice with most
people here. Such losers...almost as bad as the Browns.

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 15.223...
> > On Wed 12 Sep 2018 08:41:06a, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
> >> If approached by two friends with extra tickets and one invited me
> >> to championship football game the other to the Symphony orchestra,
> >> I'm going for the music.
> >>
> >
> > So would I, Ed. Going to the symphony or theatre is a far better way
> > for me to spend my time.
>
> Don't worry, the symphony goers will always have extra tickets. LOL
>
> Cheri

LOL. Good one! I do enjoy a live symphony though. Never sounds
good on television but quite good in real life. Football is
better watched on TV where you get to see all the plays close up.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > It's better than how we take someone being called a cow, still, she
> > had a meltdown and she's a bitch? What do you call men who have done
> > the same?
> >
>
> Role model? Millionaire? Seems to work that way.

How about, "Mr. President?"

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 15.223...
>> > On Wed 12 Sep 2018 08:41:06a, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>>
>> >> If approached by two friends with extra tickets and one invited me
>> >> to championship football game the other to the Symphony orchestra,
>> >> I'm going for the music.
>> >>
>> >
>> > So would I, Ed. Going to the symphony or theatre is a far better way
>> > for me to spend my time.
>>
>> Don't worry, the symphony goers will always have extra tickets. LOL
>>
>> Cheri
>
> LOL. Good one! I do enjoy a live symphony though. Never sounds
> good on television but quite good in real life. Football is
> better watched on TV where you get to see all the plays close up.


Yes, we used to go to some Raiders games before they moved to LA, dh has
gone a few times now that they're back in Oakland, but...I would never
attend another football game in person, geez and he has decided not to
anymore too, the fans are crazy. They've sucked for several years now, I
also think your Patriots are heading into an "also ran" status.

Cheri

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:47:14 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:29 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 2018-09-12 5:02 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>> writes:
>>
>>>>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>>>>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>>>>> experience??
>>>>
>>>> You could actually look it up yourself.
>>>
>>> you could start listening to women
>>>
>>>
>>Even a cow like Serena?
>
> She is 5'9" and weighs 155. That is a BMI of 22.9.
>
>Are you joking and trying to be funny in a very unfunny way?
>
>Osaka is 5'11" and weighs 152. BMI of 21.2.
>
>BMI is not an fully accurate reflection or health or stature, of
>course, but we are making direct comparisons here, not health
>comments.

Once Graham was British before he was Canadian and as I am likewise, I
read him basically as saying 'she's a bitch' - it loses in the
translation.