More bad parenting?


Apple Juice Tantrum Causes Plane To Make Emergency Landing
http://www.nbc10.com/news/13575254/detail.html

A child's tantrum onboard a Delta commuter flight forced a pilot to
make an emergency landing at Philadelphia International Airport.

The forced landing was caused by a fight over apple juice.

A 4-year-old wanted apple juice and when the stewardess didn't get it
quick enough, the child threw a tantrum, NBC 10 reported.

The Delta commuter flight landed around 5 p.m. Tuesday.

The flight originated in New York and was headed to North Carolina
before the incident.

Passengers were spending the night in Philadelphia, NBC 10 reported.

Authorities said there would be no charges filed in the incident.

"Abe" > wrote in message
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> More bad parenting?


Not at all, in fact it is a triumph of modern parenting. You see the child
failed to "make the right decision." So the parents had no choice in the
matter. They were powerless. Hopefully, Brattleigh will have learned a
valuable lesson and next time will make a better choice. Hopefully.

Paul

On Jun 27, 6:45 pm, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:
> "Abe" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > More bad parenting?
>
> Not at all, in fact it is a triumph of modern parenting. You see the child
> failed to "make the right decision." So the parents had no choice in the
> matter. They were powerless. Hopefully, Brattleigh will have learned a
> valuable lesson and next time will make a better choice. Hopefully.
>
> Paul


The parents should be investigated for child neglect and be ordered to
pay restitution to all passengers and all costs incurred by the
airline.for that flight.
They were delayed, inconvenienced and lost money. That lousy kid and
her incompetent parents didn't lose anything, they just had to wait a
few minutes for a $.30 cup of juice .

In article .com>,
" > wrote:


> The parents should be investigated for child neglect and be ordered to
> pay restitution to all passengers and all costs incurred by the
> airline.for that flight.

Did the child land the airplane? No. Did the parents force the
airplane to land? I doubt it, but the article had few details. I
suspect the pilot landed the airplane.


> They were delayed, inconvenienced and lost money. That lousy kid and
> her incompetent parents didn't lose anything, they just had to wait a
> few minutes for a $.30 cup of juice .

A temper tantrum is a terrible thing. The other passengers were
inconvenienced, but I fail to see how it required landing the airplane.

Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan > wrote:
>I don't see the problem here. Didn't any of the flight crew have duct tape
>handy?

They had Jack Daniels handy. Nothing like a sleeping
toddler to keep a plane in the air.

--Blair

From: "Abe" >


> Authorities said there would be no charges filed in the incident.

The other passengers should sue the parents.

The pilot should have touched down, pushed the kid and parent out at the end
of the runway, then proceeded on his way.

this is why I don't fly anymore. Too many ****wits can afford it these
days. Imagine a Greyhound bus at 35000 feet. Nightmare.

"Abe" > wrote in message
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> More bad parenting?
>
>
> Apple Juice Tantrum Causes Plane To Make Emergency Landing
> http://www.nbc10.com/news/13575254/detail.html
>
> A child's tantrum onboard a Delta commuter flight forced a pilot to
> make an emergency landing at Philadelphia International Airport.
>
> The forced landing was caused by a fight over apple juice.
>
> A 4-year-old wanted apple juice and when the stewardess didn't get it
> quick enough, the child threw a tantrum, NBC 10 reported.
>
> The Delta commuter flight landed around 5 p.m. Tuesday.
>
> The flight originated in New York and was headed to North Carolina
> before the incident.
>
> Passengers were spending the night in Philadelphia, NBC 10 reported.
>
> Authorities said there would be no charges filed in the incident.

Different story about the same story:

http://tinyurl.com/2977f2

>> Apple Juice Tantrum Causes Plane To Make Emergency Landing
>> http://www.nbc10.com/news/13575254/detail.html
>Different story about the same story:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2977f2

Ahh. That illuminates things. So it was the parent that went
ballistic. Makes more sense as a screaming baby, as annoying as it is,
probably wouldn't cause the pilot to land. But in the case of an adult
who becomes abusive, well, it's either knock him out, or get him off
the plane.

"Abe" > wrote in message
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>>> Apple Juice Tantrum Causes Plane To Make Emergency Landing


>... But in the case of an adult
> who becomes abusive, well, it's either knock him out, or get him off
> the plane.

Or both! ;-)

On Jun 28, 12:38?am, Abe > wrote:
> >> Apple Juice Tantrum Causes Plane To Make Emergency Landing
> >>http://www.nbc10.com/news/13575254/detail.html
> >Different story about the same story:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/2977f2
>
> Ahh. That illuminates things. So it was the parent that went
> ballistic. Makes more sense as a screaming baby, as annoying as it is,
> probably wouldn't cause the pilot to land. But in the case of an adult
> who becomes abusive, well, it's either knock him out, or get him off
> the plane.

where were the air marshalls???

Rosie

In article . com>,
rosie > wrote:

> On Jun 28, 12:38?am, Abe > wrote:
> > >> Apple Juice Tantrum Causes Plane To Make Emergency Landing
> > >>http://www.nbc10.com/news/13575254/detail.html
> > >Different story about the same story:
> >
> > >http://tinyurl.com/2977f2
> >
> > Ahh. That illuminates things. So it was the parent that went
> > ballistic. Makes more sense as a screaming baby, as annoying as it is,
> > probably wouldn't cause the pilot to land. But in the case of an adult
> > who becomes abusive, well, it's either knock him out, or get him off
> > the plane.
>
> where were the air marshalls???
>
> Rosie

I think Air Marshal's went the way of the dodo.

Nobody wanted to pay for them.
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Omelet wrote:

>> where were the air marshalls???
>>
>> Rosie
>
> I think Air Marshal's went the way of the dodo.
>
> Nobody wanted to pay for them.

They are not on every flight. They do still exist.

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:24:48 GMT, "Paco's Tacos" >
wrote:

>Different story about the same story:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2977f2


That makes much more sense! Now we know the 4 year old was doing what
daddy does to get his way. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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Paco's Tacos > sent an additional bit of info in
message news:ACHgi.12653$XH5.4449@trndny02...
==>Poor Choices & Pathetic Parenting During Flight<==
> Different story about the same story:
> http://tinyurl.com/2977f2

The really sad thing is the airline will beg that customer to give
them another try...

As someone that's flown with toddlers numerous times, it always
been up to me (or SWMBO) to bring any items we might want them to
consume during the flight. It would never have dawned on me to
expect something on a 50-minute commuter flight.

Like others have voiced, I hope that lout of a parent has so much
reverse karma visited upon him he is never heard from again.

The Ranger
--
"Everyone is subject to the laws of Darwinism whether or not they
believe in them, agree with them, or accept them. There is no
trial, no jury, no argument, and no appeal."
-- Anonymous

The Ranger wrote:
> Paco's Tacos > sent an additional bit of info in
> message news:ACHgi.12653$XH5.4449@trndny02...
> ==>Poor Choices & Pathetic Parenting During Flight<==
>> Different story about the same story:
>> http://tinyurl.com/2977f2
>
> As someone that's flown with toddlers numerous times, it always
> been up to me (or SWMBO) to bring any items we might want them to
> consume during the flight. It would never have dawned on me to
> expect something on a 50-minute commuter flight.
>
Even short flights usually offer a beverage service and apple juice is
usually a choice. I'm wondering why it was so difficult for the flight
attendent to come up with a can of apple juice from the beverage cart. It's
what I usually ask for and they've never had to go hunt some up.

This certainly doesn't excuse the father's behavior, of course. The pilot
did the right thing since someone who behaves like this, well there's just
no telling what they might do. I have to wonder how many people missed
other connections because dude pitched a fit over some apple juice.

And yes, I always take some snack crackers with me in my carry-on bag. Now
that they've relaxed the rules about liquids there was no reason the parents
couldn't have packed some juice.

Jill

jmcquown > wrote in message
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> The Ranger wrote:
>> Paco's Tacos > sent an additional bit of info in
>> message news:ACHgi.12653$XH5.4449@trndny02...
>> ==>Poor Choices & Pathetic Parenting During Flight<==
>>> Different story about the same story:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2977f2
>>
>> As someone that's flown with toddlers numerous times, it always
>> been up to me (or SWMBO) to bring any items we might want them
>> to
>> consume during the flight. It would never have dawned on me to
>> expect something on a 50-minute commuter flight.
>>
> Even short flights usually offer a beverage service and apple
> juice is
> usually a choice. I'm wondering why it was so difficult for the
> flight
> attendent to come up with a can of apple juice from the beverage
> cart. It's
> what I usually ask for and they've never had to go hunt some up.

If it's similar to flights I've taken, the flight attendatns start
at the front of the plane and work their way back towards the
galley area. This jackass didn't want to wait for them to get to
him and that just doesn't work in this particular scenario.

> This certainly doesn't excuse the father's behavior, of course.
> The pilot
> did the right thing since someone who behaves like this, well
> there's just
> no telling what they might do. I have to wonder how many people
> missed
> other connections because dude pitched a fit over some apple
> juice.
>
> And yes, I always take some snack crackers with me in my
> carry-on bag. Now
> that they've relaxed the rules about liquids there was no reason
> the parents
> couldn't have packed some juice.

If you're going to be heading out with children, it behooves you
to carry extra diapers, drinks, Tylenol, and some type of dry
goods (animal crackers, Ritz, even saltines) for said child to
nosh on. This works well for many adults, too. Cutting line
doesn't -- at any age...

The Ranger

jmcquown wrote:

> Even short flights usually offer a beverage service and apple juice is
> usually a choice. I'm wondering why it was so difficult for the flight
> attendent to come up with a can of apple juice from the beverage cart. It's
> what I usually ask for and they've never had to go hunt some up.

Perhaps it was just a matter of waiting patiently for their turn at
service....which this father, and possibly child didn't seem to be able
to do?

> And yes, I always take some snack crackers with me in my carry-on bag. Now
> that they've relaxed the rules about liquids there was no reason the parents
> couldn't have packed some juice.
>
> Jill

They also could have purchased juice from any number of vendors past the
security check, and carried that on.

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> Ahhhh... more info. The father (I assume it was the father) had the hissy
> fit over the juice. I hope he has to reimburse the airline for his outburst
> as well as the other passengers.
>
> Michael
>
And I hope we get to hear about it. I'd like to hear how embarrassed
those parents get (should get!) instead of imagining them whining about
how mistreated *they* were! I want to hear an apology for all air
passengers who have to be exposed to such idiocy. As if flying weren't
already unpleasant enough...?

Goomba38 wrote:
> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>
>> Ahhhh... more info. The father (I assume it was the father) had the
>> hissy fit over the juice. I hope he has to reimburse the airline for
>> his outburst as well as the other passengers.
>> Michael
>>
> And I hope we get to hear about it. I'd like to hear how embarrassed
> those parents get (should get!) instead of imagining them whining about
> how mistreated *they* were! I want to hear an apology for all air
> passengers who have to be exposed to such idiocy. As if flying weren't
> already unpleasant enough...?
>
>
Unfortunately, people like that don't get embarrassed by their own
behaviour; instead, they have an overweening sense of their own
importance, and pass on those personality traits to their kids.

Goomba38 wrote:
> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>
>> Ahhhh... more info. The father (I assume it was the father) had the
>> hissy fit over the juice. I hope he has to reimburse the airline for
>> his outburst as well as the other passengers.
>> Michael
>>
> And I hope we get to hear about it. I'd like to hear how embarrassed
> those parents get (should get!) instead of imagining them whining about
> how mistreated *they* were! I want to hear an apology for all air
> passengers who have to be exposed to such idiocy. As if flying weren't
> already unpleasant enough...?

I agree that the parent who behaved like an 8 year old should reimburse
all expenses. I bet there will be no embarrassment on the part of the
parents because people like that always think they are right and more
important than everyone else. If anything they will hire Dewey, Cheatum
and Howe and sue the airline for the inconvenience it caused to them.