Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this response to "it."

And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly. No male player in a
tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to reports. So I, for
one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say
the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.

N.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this response to "it."
>
>And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly. No male player in a
>tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to reports. So I, for
>one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say
>the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.

Who finds this cartoon racist?
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/...8cb6?width=650

I think it's just a caricature. Caricatures always exaggerate
everything. But in today's politically correct world, nothing is
allowed anymore.

On 9/11/2018 5:17 PM, Druce wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this response to "it."
>>
>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly. No male player in a
>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to reports. So I, for
>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say
>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.
>
> Who finds this cartoon racist?
> https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/...8cb6?width=650
>
> I think it's just a caricature. Caricatures always exaggerate
> everything. But in today's politically correct world, nothing is
> allowed anymore.
>

I agree but people read whatever they want into such things.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 21:05:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/11/2018 5:17 PM, Druce wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this response to "it."
>>>
>>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly. No male player in a
>>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to reports. So I, for
>>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say
>>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.
>>
>> Who finds this cartoon racist?
>> https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/...8cb6?width=650
>>
>> I think it's just a caricature. Caricatures always exaggerate
>> everything. But in today's politically correct world, nothing is
>> allowed anymore.
>>
>
>I agree but people read whatever they want into such things.

Being offended has become the world's most popular pastime.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this response to "it."
>
>And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly. No male player in a
>tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to reports. So I, for
>one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say
>the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.
>
>N.

Even John McEnroe has said he behaved far more badly but was never
penalized for it. It was a shame it all spoilt the joy the Japanese
girl should have been having, for that I would criticize Serena.

On 2018-09-11 5:51 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this response to "it."
>>
>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly. No male player in a
>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to reports. So I, for
>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say
>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.
>>
>> N.
>
> Even John McEnroe has said he behaved far more badly but was never
> penalized for it. It was a shame it all spoilt the joy the Japanese
> girl should have been having, for that I would criticize Serena.
>

John McEnroe was disqualified in 1990 for three code violations.
In 1995, Jeff Tarrango was suspended after yelling at spectators and
accused the umpire of corruption.Irena Spirlea was disqualifed for
using abusive language against officials. Andre Agassi was disqualifed
for ball abuse ad verbal abuse. David Nalbandian was disqualifed foir
for injuring an official and kicking an advertising sign. Darian King
was disqualified when he three his racquet and hit a lineswoman. Earlier
this year Yan Marti was disqualified for pointing his racquet at his
opponent and saying "You can put this in your butt."

writes:
>On 2018-09-11 5:51 PM, wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>this response to "it."
>>>
>>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
>No male player in a
>>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to
>reports. So I, for
>>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was
>inappropriate, to say
>>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a
>warning.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>> Even John McEnroe has said he behaved far more badly but was never
>> penalized for it. It was a shame it all spoilt the joy the Japanese
>> girl should have been having, for that I would criticize Serena.
>>
>
>John McEnroe was disqualified in 1990 for three code violations.
>In 1995, Jeff Tarrango was suspended after yelling at spectators and
>accused the umpire of corruption.Irena Spirlea was disqualifed for
>using abusive language against officials. Andre Agassi was disqualifed
>for ball abuse ad verbal abuse. David Nalbandian was disqualifed foir
>for injuring an official and kicking an advertising sign. Darian King
>was disqualified when he three his racquet and hit a lineswoman. Earlier
>this year Yan Marti was disqualified for pointing his racquet at his
>opponent and saying "You can put this in your butt."

cherry picking is hard work

not surprising that Dave Smith is out in front strenuously defending the
patriarchy

in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
experience??

On 2018-09-12 3:25 PM, turd in seattle wrote:
> writes:
>> On 2018-09-11 5:51 PM, wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>> this response to "it."
>>>>
>>>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
>> No male player in a
>>>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to
>> reports. So I, for
>>>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was
>> inappropriate, to say
>>>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a
>> warning.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>
>>> Even John McEnroe has said he behaved far more badly but was never
>>> penalized for it. It was a shame it all spoilt the joy the Japanese
>>> girl should have been having, for that I would criticize Serena.
>>>
>>
>> John McEnroe was disqualified in 1990 for three code violations.
>> In 1995, Jeff Tarrango was suspended after yelling at spectators and
>> accused the umpire of corruption.Irena Spirlea was disqualifed for
>> using abusive language against officials. Andre Agassi was disqualifed
>> for ball abuse ad verbal abuse. David Nalbandian was disqualifed foir
>> for injuring an official and kicking an advertising sign. Darian King
>> was disqualified when he three his racquet and hit a lineswoman. Earlier
>> this year Yan Marti was disqualified for pointing his racquet at his
>> opponent and saying "You can put this in your butt."
>
> cherry picking is hard work
>
> not surprising that Dave Smith is out in front strenuously defending the
> patriarchy

Bullshit. A claim was made that "John McEnroe has said he behaved far
more badly but was never penalized for it". I don't follow tennis much,
but it didn't take much research to find out that, in fact, McEnroe had
been suspended for three code violations. There was no cherry picking.
Those examples came from the same source and were all listed together.
We are supposed to have a pity party for the woman who had a temper
tantrum when she got caught breaking the rules, which her coach admitted
doing, and then people started to make claims or to repeat claims that
are apparently not true.



> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
> experience??

You could actually look it up yourself.

writes:
>On 2018-09-12 3:25 PM, turd in seattle wrote:
>> writes:
>>> On 2018-09-11 5:51 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>>> this response to "it."
>>>>>
>>>>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
>>> No male player in a
>>>>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to
>>> reports. So I, for
>>>>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was
>>> inappropriate, to say
>>>>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a
>>> warning.
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>> Even John McEnroe has said he behaved far more badly but was never
>>>> penalized for it. It was a shame it all spoilt the joy the Japanese
>>>> girl should have been having, for that I would criticize Serena.
>>>>
>>>
>>> John McEnroe was disqualified in 1990 for three code violations.
>>> In 1995, Jeff Tarrango was suspended after yelling at spectators and
>>> accused the umpire of corruption.Irena Spirlea was disqualifed for
>>> using abusive language against officials. Andre Agassi was disqualifed
>>> for ball abuse ad verbal abuse. David Nalbandian was disqualifed foir
>>> for injuring an official and kicking an advertising sign. Darian King
>>> was disqualified when he three his racquet and hit a lineswoman. Earlier
>>> this year Yan Marti was disqualified for pointing his racquet at his
>>> opponent and saying "You can put this in your butt."
>>
>> cherry picking is hard work
>>
>> not surprising that Dave Smith is out in front strenuously defending the
>> patriarchy
>
>Bullshit. A claim was made that "John McEnroe has said he behaved far
>more badly but was never penalized for it". I don't follow tennis much,
>but it didn't take much research to find out that, in fact, McEnroe had
>been suspended for three code violations. There was no cherry picking.
>Those examples came from the same source and were all listed together.

didn't take much research ... and yet you sound so certain


>We are supposed to have a pity party for the woman who had a temper
>tantrum when she got caught breaking the rules, which her coach admitted
>doing, and then people started to make claims or to repeat claims that
>are apparently not true.

no one said anything about a pity party



>> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
>> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
>> experience??
>
>You could actually look it up yourself.

you could start listening to women

tert in seattle wrote:

> writes:
> >On 2018-09-11 5:51 PM, wrote:
> >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
> >this response to "it."
> >>>
> >>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
> >No male player in a
> >>> tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to
> >reports. So I, for
> >>> one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was
> >inappropriate, to say
> >>> the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a
> >warning.
> >>>
> >>> N.
> >>
> >> Even John McEnroe has said he behaved far more badly but was never
> >> penalized for it. It was a shame it all spoilt the joy the Japanese
> >> girl should have been having, for that I would criticize Serena.
> >>
> >
> >John McEnroe was disqualified in 1990 for three code violations.
> >In 1995, Jeff Tarrango was suspended after yelling at spectators and
> >accused the umpire of corruption.Irena Spirlea was disqualifed for
> >using abusive language against officials. Andre Agassi was disqualifed
> >for ball abuse ad verbal abuse. David Nalbandian was disqualifed foir
> >for injuring an official and kicking an advertising sign. Darian King
> >was disqualified when he three his racquet and hit a lineswoman. Earlier
> >this year Yan Marti was disqualified for pointing his racquet at his
> >opponent and saying "You can put this in your butt."
>
> cherry picking is hard work
>
> not surprising that Dave Smith is out in front strenuously defending the
> patriarchy
>
> in the end, who should we listen to, Dave Smith or Billie Jean King?
> I mean, what does she know about the professional womans athlete's
> experience??


Plus, Smith would make a lousy *******...

--
Best
Greg

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this response to "it."
>
>And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly. No male player in a
>tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to reports. So I, for
>one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say
>the least. But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.
>
>N.

Double what Nancy2 said. We've watched the bias for years with
several examples during this Open.

On 9/11/2018 4:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this response to "it."
>
Nancy2, I don't get the BBC channel so how would I know about their
"angle" on Serena Williams? Even if I did, I sure wouldn't post about
it here. The forged posts just keep getting more lame.

OB Food: Spaghetti with Italian sausage.

Jill

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 19:07:52 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 9/11/2018 4:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this response to "it."
>>
>Nancy2, I don't get the BBC channel so how would I know about their
>"angle" on Serena Williams? Even if I did, I sure wouldn't post about
>it here. The forged posts just keep getting more lame.
>
>OB Food: Spaghetti with Italian sausage.
>
>Jill

Ziti with Italian saw-seege here tonight too, with homemade tomato
sauce.
HUGE storm is coming.
Personally I'd get you and your cat far inland, NOW!

On 9/11/2018 7:39 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 19:07:52 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/11/2018 4:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this response to "it."
>>>
>> Nancy2, I don't get the BBC channel so how would I know about their
>> "angle" on Serena Williams? Even if I did, I sure wouldn't post about
>> it here. The forged posts just keep getting more lame.
>>
>> OB Food: Spaghetti with Italian sausage.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Ziti with Italian saw-seege here tonight too, with homemade tomato
> sauce.

I like ziti, I like penne pasta, too. Just happened to use spaghetti
today.

> HUGE storm is coming.
> Personally I'd get you and your cat far inland, NOW!
>
No need for me or Buffy to go anywhere. Hurricane Florence is going to
make landfall at least 160 miles to the north.

Jill

On 2018-09-11 7:07 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/11/2018 4:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>> this response to "it."
>>
> Nancy2, I don't get the BBC channel so how would I know about their
> "angle" on Serena Williams?Â* Even if I did, I sure wouldn't post about
> it here.Â* The forged posts just keep getting more lame.
>
> OB Food: Spaghetti with Italian sausage.
>
I did a three cheese penne using white cheddar, asiago and parmesan,
but did it mac and cheese style, baking it with a topping of melted
butter, bread crumbs and freshly grated parmesan. It was served with a
green salad.

On 9/11/2018 8:50 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-09-11 7:07 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 9/11/2018 4:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>>> this response to "it."
>>>
>> Nancy2, I don't get the BBC channel so how would I know about their
>> "angle" on Serena Williams?Â* Even if I did, I sure wouldn't post about
>> it here.Â* The forged posts just keep getting more lame.
>>
>> OB Food: Spaghetti with Italian sausage.
>>
> Â*I did a three cheese penne using white cheddar, asiago and parmesan,
> but did it mac and cheese style, baking it with a topping of melted
> butter, bread crumbs and freshly grated parmesan.Â* It was served with a
> green salad.
>
Sounds delicious, Dave! I really need to buy some asiago cheese the
next time I'm at the grocery store.

Jill

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 21:17:55 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> Sounds delicious, Dave! I really need to buy some asiago cheese the
> next time I'm at the grocery store.

For those that shop at Costco, Lake Country Asiago Cheese is the
bomb. And only about $5/lb - the same price as you mass produced
generic Kraft.

-sw

On 9/11/2018 10:49 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 21:17:55 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Sounds delicious, Dave! I really need to buy some asiago cheese the
>> next time I'm at the grocery store.
>
> For those that shop at Costco, Lake Country Asiago Cheese is the
> bomb. And only about $5/lb - the same price as you mass produced
> generic Kraft.
>
> -sw
>
Good tip for Costco shoppers. I can find asiago cheese at Publix. Just
have to remember to put it on my list. I'll see if there is something
similar to Lake Country brand at my local grocery store.

Jill

On 2018-09-11 9:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/11/2018 8:50 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> Â*Â*I did a three cheese penne using white cheddar, asiago and parmesan,
>> but did it mac and cheese style, baking it with a topping of melted
>> butter, bread crumbs and freshly grated parmesan.Â* It was served with
>> a green salad.
>>
> Sounds delicious, Dave!Â* I really need to buy some asiago cheese the
> next time I'm at the grocery store.

I was in Costco a couple weeks and I guess I was wrong about which of
their cheeses my wife really liked. I got a good sized chunk of the
wrong old cheddar and a fair sized wedge of Asiago. It seemed like a
good way to use up the cheese.

On 2018-09-11 4:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
> this response to "it."
>
> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
> No male player in a tournament has ever been penalized a game point,
> according to reports. So I, for one, don't blame her for being
> angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say the least.
>But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.

Check out the article linked below. Ramos is a well respected judge who
enforces the rules strictly. Earlier in the season he penalized Novak
Djokovic and Marco Cecchinato for smaller infractions. Of the 32 code
violations called 23 of them were against men and only 9 against women.
Why should he have given her a warning instead of the penalty. She had
already been caught being coached. The coach admitted he had been doing
it and his excuse was that everyone does it. Then she smashed her
racquet. There is no question about that. When called on that one she
confronted the judge. Sorry, but in my books someone who gets caught
might possibly merit a warning. Someone who gets caught a second time
deserves the penalty. Calling out the judge who has already hit you with
two penalties???? Nope... she deserved it.



https://www.vogue.com/article/serena...es-naomi-osaka

On 2018-09-11 5:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-09-11 4:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>> this response to "it."
>>
>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
>> No male player in a tournament has ever been penalized a game point,
>> according to reports.Â* So I, for one, don't blame her for being
>> angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say the least.
>> But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.
>
> Check out the article linked below. Ramos is a well respected judge who
> enforces the rules strictly. Earlier in the season he penalized Novak
> Djokovic and Marco Cecchinato for smaller infractions. Of the 32 code
> violations called 23 of them were against men and only 9 against women.
> Why should he have given her a warning instead of the penalty. She had
> already been caught being coached.Â* The coach admitted he had been doing
> it and his excuse was that everyone does it. Then she smashed her
> racquet.Â* There is no question about that.Â* When called on that one she
> confronted theÂ* judge. Sorry, but in my books someone who gets caught
> might possibly merit a warning. Someone who gets caught a second time
> deserves the penalty. Calling out the judge who has already hit you with
> two penalties????Â*Â* Nope... she deserved it.
>
>
One serious e-mailed comment to a newspaper article said that a white
cartoonist shouldn't have drawn that cartoon, which is carrying cultural
appropriation to ridiculous levels!
I thought the cartoon was OK, not that I care a ff about tennis, which
is more boring than US football.

On 2018-09-11 6:57 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-09-11 5:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-09-11 4:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>>> this response to "it."
>>>
>>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
>>> No male player in a tournament has ever been penalized a game point,
>>> according to reports.Â* So I, for one, don't blame her for being
>>> angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say the least.
>>> But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.
>>
>> Check out the article linked below. Ramos is a well respected judge
>> who enforces the rules strictly. Earlier in the season he penalized
>> Novak Djokovic and Marco Cecchinato for smaller infractions. Of the 32
>> code violations called 23 of them were against men and only 9 against
>> women. Why should he have given her a warning instead of the penalty.
>> She had already been caught being coached.Â* The coach admitted he had
>> been doing it and his excuse was that everyone does it. Then she
>> smashed her racquet.Â* There is no question about that.Â* When called on
>> that one she confronted theÂ* judge. Sorry, but in my books someone who
>> gets caught might possibly merit a warning. Someone who gets caught a
>> second time deserves the penalty. Calling out the judge who has
>> already hit you with two penalties????Â*Â* Nope... she deserved it.
>>
>>
> One serious e-mailed comment to a newspaper article said that a white
> cartoonist shouldn't have drawn that cartoon, which is carrying cultural
> appropriation to ridiculous levels!
> I thought the cartoon was OK, not that I care a ff about tennis, which
> is more boring than US football.
>
BTW
Salad with hard-boiled eggs and some superb feta. Plus an IPA:-)

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 18:57:01 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-11 5:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-09-11 4:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write
>>> this response to "it."
>>>
>>> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly.
>>> No male player in a tournament has ever been penalized a game point,
>>> according to reports.* So I, for one, don't blame her for being
>>> angry; I do think her reaction was inappropriate, to say the least.
>>> But I also agree that the referee should have given her a warning.
>>
>> Check out the article linked below. Ramos is a well respected judge who
>> enforces the rules strictly. Earlier in the season he penalized Novak
>> Djokovic and Marco Cecchinato for smaller infractions. Of the 32 code
>> violations called 23 of them were against men and only 9 against women.
>> Why should he have given her a warning instead of the penalty. She had
>> already been caught being coached.* The coach admitted he had been doing
>> it and his excuse was that everyone does it. Then she smashed her
>> racquet.* There is no question about that.* When called on that one she
>> confronted the* judge. Sorry, but in my books someone who gets caught
>> might possibly merit a warning. Someone who gets caught a second time
>> deserves the penalty. Calling out the judge who has already hit you with
>> two penalties????** Nope... she deserved it.
>>
>>
>One serious e-mailed comment to a newspaper article said that a white
>cartoonist shouldn't have drawn that cartoon, which is carrying cultural
>appropriation to ridiculous levels!
>I thought the cartoon was OK, not that I care a ff about tennis, which
>is more boring than US football.

If I absolutely had to choose, I'd rather watch tennis than any
footbal that's played mainly with the hands.

On 2018-09-11 8:05 PM, Druce wrote:

>>>
>> One serious e-mailed comment to a newspaper article said that a white
>> cartoonist shouldn't have drawn that cartoon, which is carrying cultural
>> appropriation to ridiculous levels!
>> I thought the cartoon was OK, not that I care a ff about tennis, which
>> is more boring than US football.
>
> If I absolutely had to choose, I'd rather watch tennis than any
> footbal that's played mainly with the hands.
>
Actually, I detest both and would rather watch bread dough rise!

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:09:07 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-11 8:05 PM, Druce wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> One serious e-mailed comment to a newspaper article said that a white
>>> cartoonist shouldn't have drawn that cartoon, which is carrying cultural
>>> appropriation to ridiculous levels!
>>> I thought the cartoon was OK, not that I care a ff about tennis, which
>>> is more boring than US football.
>>
>> If I absolutely had to choose, I'd rather watch tennis than any
>> footbal that's played mainly with the hands.
>>
>Actually, I detest both and would rather watch bread dough rise!

Detest is a strong word for a sport you're not interested in.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:09:07 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-11 8:05 PM, Druce wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> One serious e-mailed comment to a newspaper article said that a white
>>> cartoonist shouldn't have drawn that cartoon, which is carrying cultural
>>> appropriation to ridiculous levels!
>>> I thought the cartoon was OK, not that I care a ff about tennis, which
>>> is more boring than US football.
>>
>> If I absolutely had to choose, I'd rather watch tennis than any
>> footbal that's played mainly with the hands.
>>
>Actually, I detest both and would rather watch bread dough rise!

I rarely watch any sports, a World Cup game and last weekend some
Spruce Meadows Horse Jumping.

On 2018-09-11 10:09 PM, graham wrote:

>> If I absolutely had to choose, I'd rather watch tennis than any
>> footbal that's played mainly with the hands.
>>
> Actually, I detest both and would rather watch bread dough rise!

To each their own. I can watch limited amounts of tennis on TV, but I
have played a number of racquet sports. I don't care for hockey or
football, and I can't understand how anyone could watch baseball. The
only sports I usually watch are equestrian events, even dressage.

NOM
> Jill, whoever "Byker," is, I am sure most of us know you didn't write this
> response to "it."
>
> And for Serena, it wasn't racism, it was gender bias, very clearly. No male
> player in a tournament has ever been penalized a game point, according to
> reports. So I, for one, don't blame her for being angry; I do think her
> reaction was inappropriate, to say the least. But I also agree that the
> referee should have given her a warning.
>
> N.
>

Whats a word the begins with N, ends in R and
you never want to a call a black person?

Neighbor.