On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 10:12:58 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:26:49 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:28:22 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 2018-09-13 3:51 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> >>> On 9/13/2018 3:02 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> But there was no double standard. Some people have suggested that thee
>> >>>> is but the fact is that a lot more men than women have been sanctioned
>> >>>> for similar violations. She got caught violating the rules and she
>> >>>> acted like a spoiled child.
>> >>>
>> >>> Male tennis players, not just one, have come forward to say they do
>> >>> the same thing and nothing happens.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regardless, the judge is a grown man, boo hoo, Serena yelled at him.
>> >>
>> >>I provided a list of male players who were suspended code violations,
>> >>and that is more severe than what she got. I also referred to an article
>> >>that showed that of 32 similar incidents, 23 penalties were assessed
>> >>against men and only 9 against women. It may be that some men got away
>> >>with things, but there are many where they were penalized.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >so you've read some articles, Dave to support your position. If you
>> >were a tennis fan and had watched the matches, both men and women, for
>> >years your arguments would carry more weight..
>>
>> Good point - I don't watch tennis but over the years noticed the
>> countless times McEnroe was shown misbehaving. As far as I know, this
>> was a first for Serena.
>
> Not at all; it's the latest of many
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ething-serena-
>williams-past-us-open-episodes/2018/09/08/0c84e1be-b3d6-11e8-8b53-
>50116768e499_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e 9d1b4c8cf34

<lucretia>
Wait, you're a woman, Serena's a woman and Lucretia's a woman. You
three have to unite against male domination, as expressed by the
referee and Dave Smith.
</lucretia>

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 18:42:56 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Druce wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:26:48 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-09-13 2:29 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:31:22 -0400, Nancy Young >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/13/2018 11:48 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow, I haven't been following along, but calling Serena a cow???
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, I have never heard any woman being called a cow where it was a
>>>>>>> compliment, it's disgusting IMO, inferring big, slow moving, stupid, and
>>>>>>> clumsy, which Serena definitely is not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graham, an ex-Brit iirc, is probably using it in the Brit slang
>>>>>> sense, which roughly translates as calling a woman a bitch.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's better than how we take someone being called a cow, still, she
>>>>> had a meltdown and she's a bitch? What do you call men who have done
>>>>> the same?
>>>>>
>>>>> nancy
>>>>
>>>> A man have a melt down???? Dave Smith gonna hatchet you!!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> You really need to learn to read. If you could you would have seen what
>>> I had written about the male tennis players who got similar and worse
>>> penalties for similar stunts.
>>
>> Lucretia sees everything as a battle between men and women. I think
>> she's been scarred by life and suffers from PTSD.
>>
>
>Well, we could get her a date with Popeye. She'd be fixed up then.
>
>
It wouldn't be me who was fixed up, but he would need to watch out,
only too easy to deal with a person like him!

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 07:35:54 -0300, wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 18:42:56 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>wrote:
>
>>Druce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:26:48 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> You really need to learn to read. If you could you would have seen what
>>>> I had written about the male tennis players who got similar and worse
>>>> penalties for similar stunts.
>>>
>>> Lucretia sees everything as a battle between men and women. I think
>>> she's been scarred by life and suffers from PTSD.
>>>
>>
>>Well, we could get her a date with Popeye. She'd be fixed up then.
>>
>>
>It wouldn't be me who was fixed up, but he would need to watch out,
>only too easy to deal with a person like him!

Careful, he was once the strongest man a nun had ever seen!

On 2018-09-14 5:12 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:26:49 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:28:22 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-09-13 3:51 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>> On 9/13/2018 3:02 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> But there was no double standard. Some people have suggested that thee
>>>>>> is but the fact is that a lot more men than women have been sanctioned
>>>>>> for similar violations. She got caught violating the rules and she
>>>>>> acted like a spoiled child.
>>>>>
>>>>> Male tennis players, not just one, have come forward to say they do
>>>>> the same thing and nothing happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless, the judge is a grown man, boo hoo, Serena yelled at him.
>>>>
>>>> I provided a list of male players who were suspended code violations,
>>>> and that is more severe than what she got. I also referred to an article
>>>> that showed that of 32 similar incidents, 23 penalties were assessed
>>>> against men and only 9 against women. It may be that some men got away
>>>> with things, but there are many where they were penalized.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> so you've read some articles, Dave to support your position. If you
>>> were a tennis fan and had watched the matches, both men and women, for
>>> years your arguments would carry more weight..
>>
>> Good point - I don't watch tennis but over the years noticed the
>> countless times McEnroe was shown misbehaving. As far as I know, this
>> was a first for Serena.
>
> Not at all; it's the latest of many
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ething-serena-
> williams-past-us-open-episodes/2018/09/08/0c84e1be-b3d6-11e8-8b53-
> 50116768e499_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e9 d1b4c8cf34
>

That article has to leave a person wondering about the accusations of
sexism, since the the names of the judges were Kim, Mariana and Eva.

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 10:15:43 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-09-14 5:12 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> Good point - I don't watch tennis but over the years noticed the
>>> countless times McEnroe was shown misbehaving. As far as I know, this
>>> was a first for Serena.
>>
>> Not at all; it's the latest of many
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ething-serena-
>> williams-past-us-open-episodes/2018/09/08/0c84e1be-b3d6-11e8-8b53-
>> 50116768e499_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e9 d1b4c8cf34
>>
>
>That article has to leave a person wondering about the accusations of
>sexism, since the the names of the judges were Kim, Mariana and Eva.

Had they been three men, Lucretia would have had a field day.

I think it is really stretching to call Serena's penalties racial. I wonder if she was paying attention
when her coach was coaching; her spontaneous statement about never cheating seemed truthful
to me. But I am probably gullible.

N.

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018Nancy2 wrote:
>
>I think it is really stretching to call Serena's penalties racial. I wonder if she was paying attention
>when her coach was coaching; her spontaneous statement about never cheating seemed truthful
>to me. But I am probably gullible.

I don't see how one can cheat at tennis... with thousands watching and
the cameras running she's the only one swinging her racket, and how
can anyone coach from the side lines when the competition didn't hit
the ball yet? Did she have heavier balls hidden in her shorts?

On 9/15/2018 11:52 AM, wrote:
> Did she have heavier balls hidden in her shorts?
>
>

I'm not going to comment. I'm not going to speculate. I'm just keeping
my mouth shut and will step away from the keyboard.