Say you have a frozen roast or rib that you want to cook by sous vide for 24
or more hours. Can you just put the vacuum packed meat into the sous vide
frozen, and use it to defrost the meat as well as cook it? Maybe you add a
few hours to the cook time for that?

--
W

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:31:02 PM UTC-6, W wrote:
> Say you have a frozen roast or rib that you want to cook by sous vide for 24
> or more hours. Can you just put the vacuum packed meat into the sous vide
> frozen, and use it to defrost the meat as well as cook it? Maybe you add a
> few hours to the cook time for that?
>
> --
> W

No, it will explode! ;-)

John Kuthe...

On 3/11/2016 3:35 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:31:02 PM UTC-6, W wrote:
>> Say you have a frozen roast or rib that you want to cook by sous vide for 24
>> or more hours. Can you just put the vacuum packed meat into the sous vide
>> frozen, and use it to defrost the meat as well as cook it? Maybe you add a
>> few hours to the cook time for that?
>>
>> --
>> W
>
> No, it will explode! ;-)
>
> John Kuthe...
>

I do hope you are kidding.

On 3/11/2016 4:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> But don't do it in it's original vacuum packaging (if any).
>
> -sw
Your woman abuse is as grotesque, unprovoked, and ugly as anything
anyone in this medium has ever done.

You are a pathological woman-hater and a deeply disturbed and wounded
little man:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw


"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw


"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.

-sw

You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
written down the once you realized you liked it.

-sw

Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
spite.

-sw

Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.

[High Five]

-sw

Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.

-sw

You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.

-sw

You tell him Julie!

<snort>

-sw

That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
explain why the proposed solution won't work.

Same 'ol song and dance.

-sw

<snip rest unread>

-sw

So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
have been your direct experience with the New York public school
system in the early 2000's?

-sw

What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
world.

-sw


Again, only in YOUR house.

-sw

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

On 3/11/2016 5:23 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:06:25 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:30:57 -0800, W wrote:
>>
>>> Say you have a frozen roast or rib that you want to cook by sous vide for 24
>>> or more hours. Can you just put the vacuum packed meat into the sous vide
>>> frozen, and use it to defrost the meat as well as cook it? Maybe you add a
>>> few hours to the cook time for that?
>>
>> Yes. But don't do it in it's original vacuum packaging (if any).
>
> And add no more than 2 hours. As they will be thawed by then assuming
> anything less than 2.5" thick at 140-150F.
>

Would seasoning(s) be applied to the item while still frozen then cooked
via sous vide? No clue how that'd turn out (?).

Sky

================================
Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer!
Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice!
================================

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 5:46:34 PM UTC-6, Sky wrote:
> On 3/11/2016 5:23 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:06:25 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:30:57 -0800, W wrote:
> >>
> >>> Say you have a frozen roast or rib that you want to cook by sous vide for 24
> >>> or more hours. Can you just put the vacuum packed meat into the sous vide
> >>> frozen, and use it to defrost the meat as well as cook it? Maybe you add a
> >>> few hours to the cook time for that?
> >>
> >> Yes. But don't do it in it's original vacuum packaging (if any).
>
Why?
> >
> > And add no more than 2 hours. As they will be thawed by then assuming
> > anything less than 2.5" thick at 140-150F.
> >
>
> Would seasoning(s) be applied to the item while still frozen then cooked
> via sous vide? No clue how that'd turn out (?).
>
Why not do it in the original package? It is silly to take it out and
repackage it.
>
> Sky

--Bryan

In article >,
MisterDiddyWahDiddy > wrote:

> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 5:46:34 PM UTC-6, Sky wrote:
> > On 3/11/2016 5:23 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:06:25 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:30:57 -0800, W wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Say you have a frozen roast or rib that you want to cook by sous vide
> > >>> for 24
> > >>> or more hours. Can you just put the vacuum packed meat into the sous
> > >>> vide
> > >>> frozen, and use it to defrost the meat as well as cook it? Maybe you
> > >>> add a
> > >>> few hours to the cook time for that?
> > >>
> > >> Yes. But don't do it in it's original vacuum packaging (if any).
> >
> Why?
> > >
> > > And add no more than 2 hours. As they will be thawed by then assuming
> > > anything less than 2.5" thick at 140-150F.
> > >
> >
> > Would seasoning(s) be applied to the item while still frozen then cooked
> > via sous vide? No clue how that'd turn out (?).
> >
> Why not do it in the original package? It is silly to take it out and
> repackage it.

I agree. I checked with the company that makes most of the vacuum
packaging for the meat packers, and they said that the type of plastic
they use is fine up to boiling (which S-V never gets to). Works fine,
too.

ISaac

On 3/11/2016 10:47 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> But I'd still want to at
> least salt them first anyway.
>
> -sw
Your woman abuse is as grotesque, unprovoked, and ugly as anything
anyone in this medium has ever done.

You are a pathological woman-hater and a deeply disturbed and wounded
little man:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw


"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw


"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.

-sw

You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
written down the once you realized you liked it.

-sw

Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
spite.

-sw

Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.

[High Five]

-sw

Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.

-sw

You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.

-sw

You tell him Julie!

<snort>

-sw

That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
explain why the proposed solution won't work.

Same 'ol song and dance.

-sw

<snip rest unread>

-sw

So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
have been your direct experience with the New York public school
system in the early 2000's?

-sw

What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
world.

-sw


Again, only in YOUR house.

-sw

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Sky" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/11/2016 5:23 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:06:25 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:30:57 -0800, W wrote:
> >>
> >>> Say you have a frozen roast or rib that you want to cook by sous vide
for 24
> >>> or more hours. Can you just put the vacuum packed meat into the
sous vide
> >>> frozen, and use it to defrost the meat as well as cook it? Maybe you
add a
> >>> few hours to the cook time for that?
> >>
> >> Yes. But don't do it in it's original vacuum packaging (if any).
> >
> > And add no more than 2 hours. As they will be thawed by then assuming
> > anything less than 2.5" thick at 140-150F.
> >
>
> Would seasoning(s) be applied to the item while still frozen then cooked
> via sous vide? No clue how that'd turn out (?).

Yes, seasoning before defrosting, and I was also wondering how that would
affect the result.

--
W

On 3/11/2016 5:02 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> go ahead and
> add butter and seasonings before sous vide.
>
> -sw
Your woman abuse is as grotesque, unprovoked, and ugly as anything
anyone in this medium has ever done.

You are a pathological woman-hater and a deeply disturbed and wounded
little man:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw


"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw


"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.

-sw

You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
written down the once you realized you liked it.

-sw

Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
spite.

-sw

Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.

[High Five]

-sw

Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.

-sw

You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.

-sw

You tell him Julie!

<snort>

-sw

That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
explain why the proposed solution won't work.

Same 'ol song and dance.

-sw

<snip rest unread>

-sw

So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
have been your direct experience with the New York public school
system in the early 2000's?

-sw

What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
world.

-sw


Again, only in YOUR house.

-sw

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

On 3/11/2016 4:23 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> 2.5" thick at 140-150F.
>
> -sw
Your woman abuse is as grotesque, unprovoked, and ugly as anything
anyone in this medium has ever done.

You are a pathological woman-hater and a deeply disturbed and wounded
little man:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw


"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw


"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.

-sw

You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
written down the once you realized you liked it.

-sw

Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
spite.

-sw

Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.

[High Five]

-sw

Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.

-sw

You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.

-sw

You tell him Julie!

<snort>

-sw

That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
explain why the proposed solution won't work.

Same 'ol song and dance.

-sw

<snip rest unread>

-sw

So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
have been your direct experience with the New York public school
system in the early 2000's?

-sw

What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
world.

-sw


Again, only in YOUR house.

-sw

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++