"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:55:00 AM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:38:17 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 20:03:47 -0400, wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:01:05 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 15:54:35 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Dsi1, i would go along with making okra illegal!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Yes. I've grown it, eaten it... but never particularly liked it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Throw in turnips and asparagus while
>> >>>>>you are at it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Asparagus? No, that would be sacrilegious!
>> >>>
>> >>>Agreed and to a certain degree likewise turnips.
>> >>
>> >>Yes, I have nothing particularly against turnips either... but OTOH
>> >>wouldn't be devastated if I never ate one again either
>> >>Good for adding to stews at least...
>> >
>> > Can't imagine Cornish Pasty without turnip
>>
>> Noooo not turnip! Swede ... yummie!
>>
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>
> Rutabagas are great...we always grew them on my folks farm. I have grown
> them but they are very susceptible to invasion of the flea beetles which
> attack canola crops which grow all around my farm. So I find for all I
> use, I can buy them and they are relatively cheap, plentiful and not full
> of flee beetle larvae.

It is sad you can't grow them, but at least you can buy them so you are not
without

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On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 1:47:37 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 1:42:23 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 15:20:24 -0500, Dave Smith
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 2015-03-06 2:10 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >> >> > On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 08:47:18 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Don't they have anything better to do?
> >> >> >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...71425654596337
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The headline says "cops raid retiree's garden, seize okra plants".
> >> >> > But
> >> >> > what really happened is "the officers apologized and took some of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > suspicious okra leaves". I guess that headline wouldn't attract as
> >> >> > many readers.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Yep...and some people apparently don't read much further than the
> >> >> headline. Someone sees the stock photo of okra pods and assumes the
> >> >> sops
> >> >> are a bunch of dumb asses for seizing his crop when the fact is that
> >> >> they mistook the leaves for pot, went to investigate and then left.
> >> >
> >> > Idiot cops that mistake okra leaves for marijuana leaves need
> >> > something better to do.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I would think so! Maybe they are okra haters.
> >
> > I think they should legalize dope and make okra illegal. :-)
>
> I'm sure that a lot of people would agree with you. I actually like okra
> but I know that a lot of people don't.

The okra that I've tasted in soups are pretty weak so I find it non-offensive. I do like a little bitter melon when eating at Chinese restaurants. That tastes like munching on aspirin. :-)

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 1:54:39 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> Dsi1, i would go along with making okra illegal! Throw in turnips and asparagus while
> you are at it.
>
> N.

Asparagus is some pretty funny stuff. We don't really eat turnips much on this rock. I can't say what they taste like. Funny, eh?

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:37:23 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 22:01:51 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
> m...
> >>>>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 14:42:54 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 08:47:18 -0800, sf wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Don't they have anything better to do?
> >>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...71425654596337
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Sounds like he has a lawsuit. The cops took parts of his okra even
> >>>>>>after it was determined it was not marijuana.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Next they'll confiscate his car and his home, which would be perfectly
> >>>>>>legal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All that supermarket food's affecting your brain.
> >>>>
> >>>>A report I read in the paper, was of police arresting a bloke
> >>>>after pulling up all the ...
> >>>>
> >>>>tomato plants in his greenhouse ...
> >>>
> >>> I hope they smuggled them home to smoke them.
> >>
> >>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and I've had
> >>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and asking
> >>what
> >>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course once
> >>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
> >
> > Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
> > helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
> > property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
> > unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town I
> > think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
>
> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing drug
> stuff.
>
>
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Typically you wouldn't see the lamps from the air since they're used indoors with the idea of keeping a low profile. My guess is most of these indoor growers get caught because they're using tremendous amounts of electricity.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:37:23 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>> >>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 22:01:51 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
>> m...
>> >>>>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 14:42:54 -0600, Sqwertz
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 08:47:18 -0800, sf wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Don't they have anything better to do?
>> >>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...71425654596337
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Sounds like he has a lawsuit. The cops took parts of his okra even
>> >>>>>>after it was determined it was not marijuana.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Next they'll confiscate his car and his home, which would be
>> >>>>>>perfectly
>> >>>>>>legal.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> All that supermarket food's affecting your brain.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>A report I read in the paper, was of police arresting a bloke
>> >>>>after pulling up all the ...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>tomato plants in his greenhouse ...
>> >>>
>> >>> I hope they smuggled them home to smoke them.
>> >>
>> >>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and I've
>> >>had
>> >>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and asking
>> >>what
>> >>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course
>> >>once
>> >>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
>> >
>> > Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
>> > helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
>> > property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
>> > unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town I
>> > think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
>>
>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing
>> drug
>> stuff.
>
> Typically you wouldn't see the lamps from the air since they're used
> indoors with the idea of keeping a low profile. My guess is most of these
> indoor growers get caught because they're using tremendous amounts of
> electricity.

That too, but I read they can 'see' the unusual heat spots too.



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On 2015-03-07 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> Typically you wouldn't see the lamps from the air since they're used
> indoors with the idea of keeping a low profile. My guess is most of
> these indoor growers get caught because they're using tremendous
> amounts of electricity.
>

What they usually do around here is to use an unoccupied house and then
bypass the electricity meter in order to get free power to hide the
excessive use.

In article >,
"Reggie" > wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:14:24 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >> William wrote:
> >> >
> >> > In the early twentieth century the government decided people were not
> >> > going to drink liquor any more. What did people do? My Great
> >> > Grandfather started making it in the backyard. His was so good, the
> >> > neighbors wanted him to make some for them.
> >>
> >> Unless I've heard wrong, I believe that the Kennedy's made their
> >> fortune by bootleging booze during those times. Feel free to correct
> >> me if I'm wrong.
> >>
> > According to what was on TV the other day, prohibition was the cause
> > of us using all those too sweet mixers in cocktails (to cover up the
> > true flavor of bathtub gin and moonshine).
>
> Worse than that, prohibition was the big kick off for the income tax
> monster, to replace the revenues from tax on alcohol. Now we have both,
> bigger and badder.

taxes Amendment 16
prohibition Amendment 18

On 07/03/2015 12:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-03-07 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> Typically you wouldn't see the lamps from the air since they're used
>> indoors with the idea of keeping a low profile. My guess is most of
>> these indoor growers get caught because they're using tremendous
>> amounts of electricity.
>>
>
> What they usually do around here is to use an unoccupied house and then
> bypass the electricity meter in order to get free power to hide the
> excessive use.
The cops here were using an infra-red camera to spot "hot" houses that
were likely grow-ops. IIRC, the civil liberties crowd made them stop the
practice.
Graham

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On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:05:23 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> > On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:37:23 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> . ..
> >> >>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 22:01:51 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >> >>> > wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> m...
> >> >>>>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 14:42:54 -0600, Sqwertz
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 08:47:18 -0800, sf wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Don't they have anything better to do?
> >> >>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...71425654596337
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Sounds like he has a lawsuit. The cops took parts of his okra even
> >> >>>>>>after it was determined it was not marijuana.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Next they'll confiscate his car and his home, which would be
> >> >>>>>>perfectly
> >> >>>>>>legal.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> All that supermarket food's affecting your brain.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>A report I read in the paper, was of police arresting a bloke
> >> >>>>after pulling up all the ...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>tomato plants in his greenhouse ...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I hope they smuggled them home to smoke them.
> >> >>
> >> >>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and I've
> >> >>had
> >> >>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and asking
> >> >>what
> >> >>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course
> >> >>once
> >> >>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
> >> > helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
> >> > property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
> >> > unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town I
> >> > think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
> >>
> >> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing
> >> drug
> >> stuff.
> >
> > Typically you wouldn't see the lamps from the air since they're used
> > indoors with the idea of keeping a low profile. My guess is most of these
> > indoor growers get caught because they're using tremendous amounts of
> > electricity.
>
> That too, but I read they can 'see' the unusual heat spots too.

Say, you're right about that! Thanks for the info. When I went to college, all my slacker friends was in the College of Tropical Agriculture. I didn't understand because that meant they were thinking of being farmers. When I was in high school with them, I never saw any hint of them being interested in being out in the fields. I was thinking "Green Acres" but they were thinking something else.

My friend said that he used to be able to grow a plant that was mostly all buds and the thing would be glistening with a heavy coating of beads of resin. That must have been some plant! OTOH, that guy was all paranoid most of the time. He said helicopters would be flying overhead frequently. These are the trials and tribulations of the dope grower.

>
>
>
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"Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Reggie" > wrote:
>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:14:24 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>> >
>> >> William wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > In the early twentieth century the government decided people were
>> >> > not
>> >> > going to drink liquor any more. What did people do? My Great
>> >> > Grandfather started making it in the backyard. His was so good, the
>> >> > neighbors wanted him to make some for them.
>> >>
>> >> Unless I've heard wrong, I believe that the Kennedy's made their
>> >> fortune by bootleging booze during those times. Feel free to correct
>> >> me if I'm wrong.
>> >>
>> > According to what was on TV the other day, prohibition was the cause
>> > of us using all those too sweet mixers in cocktails (to cover up the
>> > true flavor of bathtub gin and moonshine).
>>
>> Worse than that, prohibition was the big kick off for the income tax
>> monster, to replace the revenues from tax on alcohol. Now we have both,
>> bigger and badder.
>
> taxes Amendment 16
> prohibition Amendment 18

yes, but income taxes were very low and applies to very few. They were
increased to make up for the lost alcohol taxes, and that was a big selling
point to get prohibition passed.

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:20:13 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-03-07 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > Typically you wouldn't see the lamps from the air since they're used
> > indoors with the idea of keeping a low profile. My guess is most of
> > these indoor growers get caught because they're using tremendous
> > amounts of electricity.
> >
>
> What they usually do around here is to use an unoccupied house and then
> bypass the electricity meter in order to get free power to hide the
> excessive use.

Boy, I could use some of that free power and I ain't interested in growing dope neither! :-)

On 3/7/2015 11:43 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:14:24 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> William wrote:
>>>
>>> In the early twentieth century the government decided people were not
>>> going to drink liquor any more. What did people do? My Great
>>> Grandfather started making it in the backyard. His was so good, the
>>> neighbors wanted him to make some for them.
>>
>> Unless I've heard wrong, I believe that the Kennedy's made their
>> fortune by bootleging booze during those times. Feel free to correct
>> me if I'm wrong.
>>
> According to what was on TV the other day, prohibition was the cause
> of us using all those too sweet mixers in cocktails (to cover up the
> true flavor of bathtub gin and moonshine).
>
That, and much later, disco music. Mai Tai, anyone? (No thanks)

Jill

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and I've
>>>>>had
>>>>>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and asking
>>>>>what
>>>>>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course
>>>>>once
>>>>>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
>>>> helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
>>>> property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
>>>> unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town I
>>>> think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
>>>
>>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing
>>> drug
>>> stuff.
>>
>>I ought to have said 'heat seeking' iyswim
>
> Yes, I saw on the Dutch news that they look for that one house in the
> street that has no snow on the roof.

Really? Any house in UK with no snow on the roof just indicates they don't
have any proper insulation)


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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:05:23 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:37:23 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> . ..
>> >> >>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 22:01:51 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> m...
>> >> >>>>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 14:42:54 -0600, Sqwertz
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 08:47:18 -0800, sf wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Don't they have anything better to do?
>> >> >>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...71425654596337
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>Sounds like he has a lawsuit. The cops took parts of his okra
>> >> >>>>>>even
>> >> >>>>>>after it was determined it was not marijuana.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>Next they'll confiscate his car and his home, which would be
>> >> >>>>>>perfectly
>> >> >>>>>>legal.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> All that supermarket food's affecting your brain.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>A report I read in the paper, was of police arresting a bloke
>> >> >>>>after pulling up all the ...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>tomato plants in his greenhouse ...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I hope they smuggled them home to smoke them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and
>> >> >>I've
>> >> >>had
>> >> >>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and
>> >> >>asking
>> >> >>what
>> >> >>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course
>> >> >>once
>> >> >>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
>> >> > helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
>> >> > property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
>> >> > unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town
>> >> > I
>> >> > think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
>> >>
>> >> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing
>> >> drug
>> >> stuff.
>> >
>> > Typically you wouldn't see the lamps from the air since they're used
>> > indoors with the idea of keeping a low profile. My guess is most of
>> > these
>> > indoor growers get caught because they're using tremendous amounts of
>> > electricity.
>>
>> That too, but I read they can 'see' the unusual heat spots too.
>
> Say, you're right about that! Thanks for the info. When I went to college,
> all my slacker friends was in the College of Tropical Agriculture. I
> didn't understand because that meant they were thinking of being farmers.
> When I was in high school with them, I never saw any hint of them being
> interested in being out in the fields. I was thinking "Green Acres" but
> they were thinking something else.
>
> My friend said that he used to be able to grow a plant that was mostly all
> buds and the thing would be glistening with a heavy coating of beads of
> resin. That must have been some plant! OTOH, that guy was all paranoid
> most of the time. He said helicopters would be flying overhead frequently.
> These are the trials and tribulations of the dope grower.

lol well as I said, I have a small hydroponic unit and I haven't been raided
yett )
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and I've
>>>>>>had
>>>>>>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and
>>>>>>asking
>>>>>>what
>>>>>>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course
>>>>>>once
>>>>>>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
>>>>> helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
>>>>> property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
>>>>> unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town I
>>>>> think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
>>>>
>>>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing
>>>> drug
>>>> stuff.
>>>
>>>I ought to have said 'heat seeking' iyswim
>>
>> Yes, I saw on the Dutch news that they look for that one house in the
>> street that has no snow on the roof.
>
> Really? Any house in UK with no snow on the roof just indicates they
> don't have any proper insulation)
>

These days, that ALONE would justify SWAT teams dropping in by helicopter
for a raid to set the offenders straight.

"Reggie" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and
>>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and
>>>>>>>asking
>>>>>>>what
>>>>>>>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course
>>>>>>>once
>>>>>>>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
>>>>>> helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
>>>>>> property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
>>>>>> unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town I
>>>>>> think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing
>>>>> drug
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>
>>>>I ought to have said 'heat seeking' iyswim
>>>
>>> Yes, I saw on the Dutch news that they look for that one house in the
>>> street that has no snow on the roof.
>>
>> Really? Any house in UK with no snow on the roof just indicates they
>> don't have any proper insulation)
>>
>
> These days, that ALONE would justify SWAT teams dropping in by helicopter
> for a raid to set the offenders straight.

Well they would be kept jolly busy in UK alright lol


>
>

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 19:51:23 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and
>>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and
>>>>>>>asking
>>>>>>>what
>>>>>>>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course
>>>>>>>once
>>>>>>>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
>>>>>> helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
>>>>>> property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
>>>>>> unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town I
>>>>>> think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing
>>>>> drug
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>
>>>>I ought to have said 'heat seeking' iyswim
>>>
>>> Yes, I saw on the Dutch news that they look for that one house in the
>>> street that has no snow on the roof.
>>
>>Really? Any house in UK with no snow on the roof just indicates they
>>don't
>>have any proper insulation)
>
> Yes, that could also explain it. It's also possible that they have
> snow on the roof because they're growing weed in the basement

lol true



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Ophelia wrote:

> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and I've
> >>>>>had
> >>>>>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and asking
> >>>>>what
> >>>>>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course
> >>>>>once
> >>>>>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
> >>>> helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
> >>>> property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
> >>>> unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town I
> >>>> think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
> >>>
> >>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing
> >>> drug
> >>> stuff.
> >>
> >>I ought to have said 'heat seeking' iyswim
> >
> > Yes, I saw on the Dutch news that they look for that one house in the
> > street that has no snow on the roof.
>
> Really? Any house in UK with no snow on the roof just indicates they don't
> have any proper insulation)


We Yanks think all UK homes have thatched roofs...!!! ;-)


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On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 08:53:26 -0500, William > wrote:

>It's really sad isn't it? Vodka is legal and Marijuana is not.
>Cigarettes are legal and Cocaine is not. Stupid Victorian Laws that
>are relics of the eighteeth century. Most of the ignorant people

You may want to review your comments.

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:14:24 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>William wrote:
>>
>> In the early twentieth century the government decided people were not
>> going to drink liquor any more. What did people do? My Great
>> Grandfather started making it in the backyard. His was so good, the
>> neighbors wanted him to make some for them.
>
>Unless I've heard wrong, I believe that the Kennedy's made their
>fortune by bootleging booze during those times. Feel free to correct
>me if I'm wrong.

You are not wrong.

> wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and
>> >>>>>I've
>> >>>>>had
>> >>>>>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and
>> >>>>>asking
>> >>>>>what
>> >>>>>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course
>> >>>>>once
>> >>>>>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
>> >>>> helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
>> >>>> property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
>> >>>> unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing
>> >>> drug
>> >>> stuff.
>> >>
>> >>I ought to have said 'heat seeking' iyswim
>> >
>> > Yes, I saw on the Dutch news that they look for that one house in the
>> > street that has no snow on the roof.
>>
>> Really? Any house in UK with no snow on the roof just indicates they
>> don't
>> have any proper insulation)
>
>
> We Yanks think all UK homes have thatched roofs...!!! ;-)

Oh really??? <g>

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On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 12:21:37 -0400, wrote:


>I would like our people here to wait and see what happens in Colorado.
>The thing I don't like about pot usage is that it appears to sap
>peoples ambition. I know two people in their 40s who should have
>done very well but with constant smoking they seemed to lose their
>drive.

We all know people like that. They are very much a minority though,
they just stand out, whereas the majority of users do not, many of
whom you would have no idea about even use Cannabis. Incidentally,
'hydro' or cannabis grown under lights with non-organic fertilisers is
significantly different to the naturally grown product.

It is easy to make similar arguments about some people's inability to
control their diet, shopping habits or just about anything else for
that matter. But those things haven't had government/corporate
propaganda campaigns against them for decades.


> There is apparently a study that shows teens should be kept
>away from it, you shouldn't be indulging until the brain has done all
>it's growing.

Ophelia wrote:

> > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> >>> ...
> >> >>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >> >>>> > wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and
> >> >>>>>I've
> >> >>>>>had
> >> >>>>>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and
> >> >>>>>asking
> >> >>>>>what
> >> >>>>>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of course
> >> >>>>>once
> >> >>>>>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had a
> >> >>>> helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
> >> >>>> property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
> >> >>>> unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town
> >> >>>> I
> >> >>>> think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing
> >> >>> drug
> >> >>> stuff.
> >> >>
> >> >>I ought to have said 'heat seeking' iyswim
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I saw on the Dutch news that they look for that one house in the
> >> > street that has no snow on the roof.
> >>
> >> Really? Any house in UK with no snow on the roof just indicates they
> >> don't
> >> have any proper insulation)
> >
> >
> > We Yanks think all UK homes have thatched roofs...!!! ;-)
>
> Oh really??? <g>


Yes, and the Irish have peat roofs (so their sheep can graze atop!), and the thrifty hardy Scots have thrifty hardy slate roofs...is this not all true?


<vbg>


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On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 10:47:40 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in growing drug
>> stuff.

LOL. Yes, because they grow their weed outdoors using indoor lamps...
<rolls eyes>.

>Typically you wouldn't see the lamps from the air since they're used indoors with the idea of keeping a low profile.
>My guess is most of these indoor growers get caught because they're using tremendous amounts of electricity.

They look for the infrared heat signatures using something called
FLIR.

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 14:20:10 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-03-07 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> Typically you wouldn't see the lamps from the air since they're used
>> indoors with the idea of keeping a low profile. My guess is most of
>> these indoor growers get caught because they're using tremendous
>> amounts of electricity.
>>
>
>What they usually do around here is to use an unoccupied house and then
>bypass the electricity meter in order to get free power to hide the
>excessive use.

One doco I watched claimed 1 in 10 houses in BC have grow rooms.

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 10:03:25 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> We had a
>> helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
>> property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
>> unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town
>
>I *might have* grown a crop of pot in the past.

I have in the past, and I do now too. And I will in subsequent years.

>One thing I do know is that it doesn't smell while growing.

Then it wasn't very potent... mine are only just starting to bud now,
and you can most certainly smell them from a distance.

>Unmistakable smell while smoking it, but not while growing.

Hmm.

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 07:22:15 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 08:53:26 -0500, William > wrote:
>
>>It's really sad isn't it? Vodka is legal and Marijuana is not.
>>Cigarettes are legal and Cocaine is not. Stupid Victorian Laws that
>>are relics of the eighteeth century. Most of the ignorant people
>
>You may want to review your comments.

Oh no! You're not going to burn down the White House again are you?

William

On 3/7/2015 8:53 AM, William wrote:

>
> Cigarettes are legal and Cocaine is not. Stupid Victorian Laws that
> are relics of the eighteeth century.

???
Victorian laws from the eighteenth century?

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/7/2015 8:53 AM, William wrote:
>
>>
>> Cigarettes are legal and Cocaine is not. Stupid Victorian Laws that
>> are relics of the eighteeth century.
>
> ???
> Victorian laws from the eighteenth century?

they were ahead of their time. or behind the times.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 20:20:00 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 19:51:23 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and
>>>>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and
>>>>>>>>>asking
>>>>>>>>>what
>>>>>>>>>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of
>>>>>>>>>course
>>>>>>>>>once
>>>>>>>>>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We had
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure whose
>>>>>>>> property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
>>>>>>>> unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in
>>>>>>> growing
>>>>>>> drug
>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I ought to have said 'heat seeking' iyswim
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I saw on the Dutch news that they look for that one house in the
>>>>> street that has no snow on the roof.
>>>>
>>>>Really? Any house in UK with no snow on the roof just indicates they
>>>>don't
>>>>have any proper insulation)
>>>
>>> Yes, that could also explain it. It's also possible that they have
>>> snow on the roof because they're growing weed in the basement
>>
>>lol true
>
> This is a picture from the news item that I saw:
> https://twitter.com/wmiddelkoop/stat...53949245722624

That one is VERY obvious )))


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> wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> >>> ...
>> >> >>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>lol I never thought of that) I run a small hydroponic unit and
>> >> >>>>>I've
>> >> >>>>>had
>> >> >>>>>tradesmen doing work for me, looking at it most suspiciously and
>> >> >>>>>asking
>> >> >>>>>what
>> >> >>>>>I was growing, until I told them they were tomato plants. Of
>> >> >>>>>course
>> >> >>>>>once
>> >> >>>>>the fruit is growing there is no problem.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Maybe they were thinking of an alternative form of payment. We
>> >> >>>> had a
>> >> >>>> helicopter flying over our place the other day. I'm not sure
>> >> >>>> whose
>> >> >>>> property they were looking at exactly, but I do pick up an
>> >> >>>> unmistakable smell not far from our place, when we drive to town
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I
>> >> >>>> think they should have bigger things to worry about though.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I have heard that helicopters searching for the lamps used in
>> >> >>> growing
>> >> >>> drug
>> >> >>> stuff.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I ought to have said 'heat seeking' iyswim
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, I saw on the Dutch news that they look for that one house in
>> >> > the
>> >> > street that has no snow on the roof.
>> >>
>> >> Really? Any house in UK with no snow on the roof just indicates they
>> >> don't
>> >> have any proper insulation)
>> >
>> >
>> > We Yanks think all UK homes have thatched roofs...!!! ;-)
>>
>> Oh really??? <g>
>
>
> Yes, and the Irish have peat roofs (so their sheep can graze atop!), and
> the thrifty hardy Scots have thrifty hardy slate roofs...is this not all
> true?
>
>
> <vbg>

nodnodnodnodnod of course it is ... ;-)



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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/7/2015 8:53 AM, William wrote:
>
>>
>> Cigarettes are legal and Cocaine is not. Stupid Victorian Laws that
>> are relics of the eighteeth century.
>
> ???
> Victorian laws from the eighteenth century?

;-)

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On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:05:44 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 3/7/2015 8:53 AM, William wrote:
>
>>
>> Cigarettes are legal and Cocaine is not. Stupid Victorian Laws that
>> are relics of the eighteeth century.
>
>???
>Victorian laws from the eighteenth century?

Yes, I questioned that also

On 3/7/2015 9:54 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> lol well as I said, I have a small hydroponic unit and I haven't been
> raided yett )

That was the wave of the future back in the early 70s. As was drip
irrigation and soy beans. I suppose people were right about that.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/7/2015 9:54 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> lol well as I said, I have a small hydroponic unit and I haven't been
>> raided yett )
>
> That was the wave of the future back in the early 70s. As was drip
> irrigation and soy beans. I suppose people were right about that.

I am growing tomatoes)



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On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:05:44 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 3/7/2015 8:53 AM, William wrote:
>
> >
> > Cigarettes are legal and Cocaine is not. Stupid Victorian Laws that
> > are relics of the eighteeth century.
>
> ???
> Victorian laws from the eighteenth century?

Unless lawmakers were clairvoyant, Victorian laws were made in the
19th century.

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On 2015-03-07 4:14 PM, Reggie wrote:

>> Victorian laws from the eighteenth century?
>
> they were ahead of their time. or behind the times.
>


They were contemporary at the time.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 21:15:27 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 20:20:00 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 19:51:23 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Really? Any house in UK with no snow on the roof just indicates they
>>>>>>don't have any proper insulation)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that could also explain it. It's also possible that they have
>>>>> snow on the roof because they're growing weed in the basement
>>>>
>>>>lol true
>>>
>>> This is a picture from the news item that I saw:
>>> https://twitter.com/wmiddelkoop/stat...53949245722624
>>
>>That one is VERY obvious )))
>
> Yes, they're not growing a couple of tomato plants for private
> consumption

Unless they have tomatoes growing in every room in the house

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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 08:21:44 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:05:44 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:
>
>>On 3/7/2015 8:53 AM, William wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Cigarettes are legal and Cocaine is not. Stupid Victorian Laws that
>>> are relics of the eighteeth century.
>>
>>???
>>Victorian laws from the eighteenth century?
>
>Yes, I questioned that also

I stand corrected JeBus. Americans currently enjoy a smorgasboard of
recreational drugs including narcotics. I should not insinuate that
our outdated laws were created by Queen Victoria. They were created by
American politicians in the wake of the "Victorian Era".

What is so ridiculus in the year 2015 is that Marijuana is about the
only substance that is still illegal while millions of Americans are
hooked on legally written Prescriptions for Narcotic drugs. People buy
Marijuana on the street. The government is not stopping them from
smoking.

William

On 2015-03-07 5:28 PM, William wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 08:21:44 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:05:44 -0500, S Viemeister
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/7/2015 8:53 AM, William wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cigarettes are legal and Cocaine is not. Stupid Victorian Laws that
>>>> are relics of the eighteeth century.
>>>
>>> ???
>>> Victorian laws from the eighteenth century?
>>
>> Yes, I questioned that also
>
> I stand corrected JeBus. Americans currently enjoy a smorgasboard of
> recreational drugs including narcotics. I should not insinuate that
> our outdated laws were created by Queen Victoria. They were created by
> American politicians in the wake of the "Victorian Era".
>
> What is so ridiculus in the year 2015 is that Marijuana is about the
> only substance that is still illegal while millions of Americans are
> hooked on legally written Prescriptions for Narcotic drugs. People buy
> Marijuana on the street. The government is not stopping them from
> smoking.
>
> 2

They aren't?? Half the prison population in the US are in there for drug
offences. Of those, 27% are for marijuana. That translates to about
12% of the prison population being for marijuana. Compare that to 0.4%
for financial crimes, 4% for burglary and property offences
2.8% for homicide, aggravated assault and kidnapping, 3.8% for robber
and 6.1% for sex offences.