"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
> ...
>> According to a report one year ago, 2% of US citizens do not have access,
>> but 20% prefer not to.
>> That is one in five who do not have access for one reason or another.
>> That is significant.
>>
>> Perhaps rude was not the best word for what you meant. If someone
>> passing by a Redbox when
>> they enter or leave a store decides on the spur of the moment to rent a
>> movie, I don't consider that rude.
>>
>>
>> N.
>
> Me either.

Color me surprised.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:55:22 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >I tell ya, Cheri and Janet, y'all must live and shop where hoards are
>> >waiting for a movie. I've never seen
>> > such a thing here. Most of our Redboxes are outside stores or shops,
>> > with
>> > only a few located inside a supermarket.
>> >
>> > I guess here, we have other things to do than stand in line for a movie
>> > that isn't newer than a couple weeks old,
>> > or one that nobody wants to rent anyway. It boggles my mind (which
>> > isn't
>> > easily boggled).
>> >
>> > N.
>>
>> I don't stand in line for movies. I do other things and come back later.
>> Where I am, we have a huge Hispanic population and they do rent a lot of
>> movies it seems since there are usually two to three adults and several
>> children at the locations. There are two places in town where the boxes
>> are
>> outside, but the rest are inside. However, there's not a lot of other
>> things
>> to do in our town. It's very kid unfriendly as far as amusement goes.
>>
> That's an excellent example of people who are unlikely to have a
> computer.

Yes!

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:55:22 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >I tell ya, Cheri and Janet, y'all must live and shop where hoards are
>>> >waiting for a movie. I've never seen
>>> > such a thing here. Most of our Redboxes are outside stores or shops,
>>> > with
>>> > only a few located inside a supermarket.
>>> >
>>> > I guess here, we have other things to do than stand in line for a
>>> > movie
>>> > that isn't newer than a couple weeks old,
>>> > or one that nobody wants to rent anyway. It boggles my mind (which
>>> > isn't
>>> > easily boggled).
>>> >
>>> > N.
>>>
>>> I don't stand in line for movies. I do other things and come back later.
>>> Where I am, we have a huge Hispanic population and they do rent a lot of
>>> movies it seems since there are usually two to three adults and several
>>> children at the locations. There are two places in town where the boxes
>>> are
>>> outside, but the rest are inside. However, there's not a lot of other
>>> things
>>> to do in our town. It's very kid unfriendly as far as amusement goes.
>>>
>> That's an excellent example of people who are unlikely to have a
>> computer.
>
> But most of the kids have smart phones that I've seen.


They might not have unlimited data though.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 05:31:43 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am on Julie's side on this Redbox thing. I had no idea you could
>>>>order/reserve a copy of a movie online
>>>>and then go to the box and pick it up. I have used Redbox twice, I
>>>>think, and it is convenient and cheap
>>>>for a one-night rental.
>>>>
>>>>But I fail to see why it is RUDE to just go and pick one out while
>>>>standing in
>>>>front of the machine! That is a ridiculous thing to say! Most people I
>>>>see at a machine, pondering which
>>>>movie to rent, are adults with little kids, or couples who seem to be
>>>>looking for the night's entertainment.
>>>>
>>>>There is a lot of impulse renting involved, and it is far from rude.
>>>>
>>>>N.
>>> Instead of standing in front of the machine for 5-10 minutes and
>>> squabbling over which movie to get, holding other people up, why not
>>> work it out at home? That's rude.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>
>> Who does that? I've never seen that happen.
>
> In all of your three rentals? LOL

There are Redbox machines everywhere! I know of two right around the corner
from here. One, I can watch from the road as I wait to turn to my house
Never anyone there. I often park by the other one. Although that one does
appear to be busy, and it is the one we used, I have never seen a line
there. Many are visible while I stand in line at the store. Nobody is
using them.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:09:47 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:35:05 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Instead of standing in front of the machine for 5-10 minutes and
>>>>> squabbling over which movie to get, holding other people up, why not
>>>>> work it out at home? That's rude.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>>Redbox isn't that busy enough for that to matter where I live. I
>>>>rarely see anyone use it.
>>>
>>> I've been behind mom and dad and the two small children. They are
>>> only getting one move and the children can decide which one. Really?
>>> Tears and screaming but no attempt to move away from the box. How
>>> about a couple,three teenage girls? Or a couple on a date?
>>> Janet US
>>
>> So? When you go out to eat do you review the menu online first and
>> decide what to eat before you get there? I do, because of my food issues
>> but I would suspect that most people wouldn't. When you go to Walmart to
>> buy stuff do you order site to store first?
>>
>> Even if I did have to wait 5-10 minutes behind someone, I do have
>> patience. Sheesh.
>
> I think a lot of people check menus before they go to eat, but that's not
> at all the same thing. You don't have people waiting behind you while you
> take several minutes to read the menu before you sit down, that's why they
> have waiters etc., to bring you a menu. Also, at Walmart you don't wait
> until you get to the checkout line to decide what you want to buy. Give it
> up Julie, I have seen you complain many times about slow people at stores
> etc. When you rent movies (which you don't like) at Redbox regularly, get
> back to me.

If you are taking the time to decide in a restaurant, you are taking up time
that the waiter could be spending somewhere else. Usually when I sit down,
I already know what I want. I might have to ask questions though to make
sure that I can eat it.

If you are in the aisle of the store, you may well be in someone's way.

I'm not saying that any of these things are bad. They are normal. Just
like getting a Redbox at the machine is. You can say whatever you want. It
isn't going to change my mind. If the owner didn't want people to do this,
they would make it so they couldn't. Those people aren't doing anything
wrong and in my mind it's not rude. It's no more rude that a kid at a penny
candy counter would be in making up their mind as to what they want.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:42:35 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>It is not rude to pick a movie from the machine! NOT EVERYONE HAS
>>>>ONLINE ACCESS!!, or did that fact
>>>>not register in your brain. Where our Redboxes are, there are usually
>>>>two together. I have never seen a "squabble"
>>>>at a Redbox, nor have I ever seen someone waiting for access. Sheesh,
>>>>get over it.
>>>>
>>>>N.
>>> You're the one making a big deal of it. I dropped it only to have you
>>> come forward. It also didn't require shouting. Glad you have 2
>>> Redboxes. Not everyone has 2 Redboxes. I guess you couldn't
>>> understand the circumstances that I put forward. However, this whole
>>> brouhaha came about because I said how easy it was to pick out a movie
>>> online. If that gets your panties in a twist, I can't help you. Out
>>> of curiosity, I would however, love to know the percentage of people
>>> in the US that do not have online access in this day and age. That's
>>> the weakest argument.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> Off the top of my head, I can think of 7. There are probably more. Most
>> of the elderly relatives on either side of the family have none. We did
>> have a neighbor who didn't. They moved.
>>
>> And as I said prior, many people might get one as a spur of the moment
>> thing. They're out. The kid sees the Redbox. What would you have them
>> do? Sit in their car and order it from their Smartphone so you don't have
>> to wait behind them?
>
> As if that would be so awful when these kids have the smart phones glued
> to them these days, adults too for that matter.

That is beyond ridiculous! Seriously. *shakes head*

> > Maybe they should make an example out of her for brazenly promoting theft.
>
> > --Bryan
>
>
>
> Honestly, I don't think she has any idea they are pirated and her family is cheating the actors and makers out of royalties.
> --
> Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

I don't know how it is in the US, but here (UK) a lot of ISPs are blocking sites like The Pirate Bay. I couldn't download from them even if I wanted to.

Cherry

> > Surely, a "writer" like yourself has a good enough vocabulary (or
dictionary) to know exactly what it means?
>
> > Janet UK
>
>
> It is not a word that I ever heard before and not one that I'm likely to hear again. Good writers know that they had best write at an 8th grade level or less if they want to be understood!


Surely that would depend on the authors' target readership. Eighth grade is teenage level. I'm 56 years-old, I don't want books that read like they're written for teenagers.

Cherry

"Cherry" > wrote in message
...
>> > Surely, a "writer" like yourself has a good enough vocabulary (or
> dictionary) to know exactly what it means?
>>
>> > Janet UK
>>
>>
>> It is not a word that I ever heard before and not one that I'm likely to
>> hear again. Good writers know that they had best write at an 8th grade
>> level or less if they want to be understood!
>
>
> Surely that would depend on the authors' target readership. Eighth grade
> is teenage level. I'm 56 years-old, I don't want books that read like
> they're written for teenagers.

That is what newspapers are written at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readability

> >>Redbox isn't that busy enough for that to matter where I live. I rarely see anyone use it.
>
> > I've been behind mom and dad and the two small children. They are
only getting one move and the children can decide which one. Really? Tears and screaming but no attempt to move away from the box. How about a couple,three teenage girls? Or a couple on a date?
>
> > Janet US
>
>
>
> So? When you go out to eat do you review the menu online first and decide
what to eat before you get there? I do, because of my food issues but I would suspect that most people wouldn't. When you go to Walmart to buy stuff do you order site to store first?
>
> Even if I did have to wait 5-10 minutes behind someone, I do have patience.
>
> Sheesh.

Very often before I go shopping I check out the prices particularly meat and fish on the stores websites. You never know, You might find some good offers.

Cherry

I think a lot of people check menus before they go to eat, but that's not at all the same thing. You don't have people waiting behind you while you take several minutes to read the menu before you sit down, that's why they have waiters etc., to bring you a menu. Also, at Walmart you don't wait until you get to the checkout line to decide what you want to buy. Give it up Julie, I have seen you complain many times about slow people at stores etc. When you rent movies (which you don't like) at Redbox regularly, get back to me.
>
>
>
> If you are taking the time to decide in a restaurant, you are taking up time
that the waiter could be spending somewhere else. Usually when I sit down,
I already know what I want. I might have to ask questions though to make sure that I can eat it.
>
If you are in the aisle of the store, you may well be in someone's way
>
Not the same thing at all. If someone is in my way I just say, "excuse me, may I pass" and that person moves out of the way. So you can't use that as justification.

Cherry

"Cherry" > wrote in message
...
I think a lot of people check menus before they go to eat, but that's not at
all the same thing. You don't have people waiting behind you while you take
several minutes to read the menu before you sit down, that's why they have
waiters etc., to bring you a menu. Also, at Walmart you don't wait until you
get to the checkout line to decide what you want to buy. Give it up Julie, I
have seen you complain many times about slow people at stores etc. When you
rent movies (which you don't like) at Redbox regularly, get back to me.
>
>
>
> If you are taking the time to decide in a restaurant, you are taking up
> time
that the waiter could be spending somewhere else. Usually when I sit down,
I already know what I want. I might have to ask questions though to make
sure that I can eat it.
>
If you are in the aisle of the store, you may well be in someone's way
>
Not the same thing at all. If someone is in my way I just say, "excuse me,
may I pass" and that person moves out of the way. So you can't use that as
justification.

Cherry
---

Actually I can use whatever I want. Those machines are put there for people
to use. They are using them as intended. How in the world is that rude?
It isn't.

> >> > Maybe they should make an example out of her for brazenly promoting theft.
>
> >> > --Bryan
> >>
>
> >> Honestly, I don't think she has any idea they are pirated and her family is cheating the actors and makers out of royalties.
>
> >> Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.
>
> >
> >I don't know how it is in the US, but here (UK) a lot of ISPs are blocking sites like The Pirate Bay. I couldn't download from them even if I wanted to.
>
>
There are similar sites that may not be blocked. Not that I would recommend googling "pirate bay alternative" of course.
> --
> JohnJohn

Oh of course not :-) Tho' personally, I don't know why people waste time downloading when there are a lot sites where you can stream TV shows and films.

Cherry

Cherry

"Cherry" > wrote in message
...
>> >>Redbox isn't that busy enough for that to matter where I live. I
>> >>rarely see anyone use it.
>>
>> > I've been behind mom and dad and the two small children. They are
> only getting one move and the children can decide which one. Really?
> Tears and screaming but no attempt to move away from the box. How about a
> couple,three teenage girls? Or a couple on a date?
>>
>> > Janet US
>>
>>
>>
>> So? When you go out to eat do you review the menu online first and
>> decide
> what to eat before you get there? I do, because of my food issues but I
> would suspect that most people wouldn't. When you go to Walmart to buy
> stuff do you order site to store first?
>>
>> Even if I did have to wait 5-10 minutes behind someone, I do have
>> patience.
>>
>> Sheesh.
>
> Very often before I go shopping I check out the prices particularly meat
> and fish on the stores websites. You never know, You might find some good
> offers.

I don't buy a lot of meat and it isn't something I pay much mind of the
price to. I do check the ads for soda pop prices because I like to get
those for cheap. I quit checking prices for everything because it's just a
waste of my time. But if I am going to Target, I will check their coupons
and Cartwheel. I will also check the U for Safeway if I am going in
advance. Much easier to do that on my computer than on my phone.

In article >,
lid says...
>

> Everything that's digital can and will be shared. The movie and music
> industry are redesigning themselves around that fact.

Cinema audiences fund the investment of movie makers. Pirating their
livelihood will be the end of cinemas, and ultimately, the end of movies
made for cinema.



Janet UK.

In article >, says...
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> t...
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >
> > You are the
> >> > queen of obfuscation.
> >
> >
> >> Whatever that means.
> >
> > Surely, a "writer" like yourself has a good enough vocabulary (or
> > dictionary) to know exactly what it means?
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> It is not a word that I ever heard before and not one that I'm likely to
> hear again. Good writers know that they had best write at an 8th grade
> level or less if they want to be understood!

Evidently you're unfamiliar with good writers.

Talk about the dumbing down of a nation.

Janet UK

On 8/17/2014 4:28 AM, Cherry wrote:

>
> Oh of course not :-) Tho' personally, I don't know why people waste time downloading when there are a lot sites where you can stream TV shows and films.
>
> Cherry

Not everyone has internet speeds to support streaming, so a download
solves that problem. You also have more versatility on the playback time
or stop and watch the rest later.

In article >, says...
>

>
> If you are taking the time to decide in a restaurant, you are taking up time
> that the waiter could be spending somewhere else.

Rubbish. FGS, Julie, what kind of desperate dump do you eat in? In
any good restaurant the waiter provides a written menu and leaves the
customers in peace to make their choice, goes away to attend to other
customers, then comes back later when they can see the table is ready to
order.

Janet UK

On 8/17/2014 1:15 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>>>
>>
>> Don't make me laugh. I had a Blockbuster card and John and I were on
>> a trip out of town. The hotel room had a DVD player so we went to
>> Blockbuster thinking we'd rent a movie. The clerk at Blockbuster
>> insisted he had to call home to confirm I was 'allowed' to rent a
>> movie. I said, "Who do you expect to answer the phone, my cat?!"
>>
>> Jill
>
> They wouldn't rent to my husband because he had out of state I.D.

As if people don't move around. It was the silliest thing, you want to
call me when I'm standing right in front of you? Dude, I'm not home,
I'm here!

Jill

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:11:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Janet" > wrote in message
et...
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>
>> You are the
>>> > queen of obfuscation.
>>
>>
>>> Whatever that means.
>>
>> Surely, a "writer" like yourself has a good enough vocabulary (or
>> dictionary) to know exactly what it means?
>>
>> Janet UK
>
>It is not a word that I ever heard before and not one that I'm likely to
>hear again. Good writers know that they had best write at an 8th grade
>level or less if they want to be understood!

I probably encountered that word sometime in 7th or 8th grade. I find
8th graders to be very educated, socialized and aware today. Maybe
that isn't true where you live.
Janet US

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Nancy2" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>I am on Julie's side on this Redbox thing. I had no idea you could
> >>order/reserve a copy of a movie online
> >> and then go to the box and pick it up. I have used Redbox twice, I
> >> think, and it is convenient and cheap
> >> for a one-night rental.
> >>
> >> But I fail to see why it is RUDE to just go and pick one out while
> >> standing in
> >> front of the machine! That is a ridiculous thing to say! Most people I
> >> see at a machine, pondering which
> >> movie to rent, are adults with little kids, or couples who seem to be
> >> looking for the night's entertainment.
> >>
> >> There is a lot of impulse renting involved, and it is far from rude.
> >>
> >> N.
> >
> > Well, I am on Janet B's side. There is no reason to be holding others up
> > while you decide on a movie if you have the ability to reserve it online
> > first. If a person has an idea of the movie they want that's fine because
> > it's easy to select it and pick it up quickly, but if you have no idea
> > what you want and are just standing there trying to make a decision on a
> > movie you might like for several minutes, I feel that's rude. Now, I do
> > believe that there are a couple of posters here who never gave a moments
> > thought to anothers inconvenience in their lives, and I don't mean you.
> > Just a difference of opinion in this.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> That's just plain ridiculous! If the Redbox owners didn't want people to be
> able to walk up and get something, they wouldn't give that option.

There's a Redbox machine outside of my main grocery store. In the past
2 years, I've only seen one or two people using it. I looked at it
this morning. It has 45 tiny movie posters on it (I looked at them and
counted this morning). Stupid to say that by looking you would be
holding up a line. Not in my area.

It would be nice though if you can go online to order one and have it
sent to your local box for pickup.

G.

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 01:27:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
snip
>
>Actually I can use whatever I want. Those machines are put there for people
>to use. They are using them as intended. How in the world is that rude?
>It isn't.

It's a matter of courtesy to others. Using Redbox in situ is not
rude. Messing around while holding up other people needlessly is.
Janet US

"JohnJohn" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:17:01 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:14:54 +1000, JohnJohn >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:09:17 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:13:16 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Maybe they should make an example out of her for brazenly promoting
>>>> >> theft.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --Bryan
>>>> >
>>>> >Honestly, I don't think she has any idea they are pirated and her
>>>> >family is cheating the actors and makers out of royalties.
>>>>
>>>> Everything that's digital can and will be shared. The movie and music
>>>> industry are redesigning themselves around that fact.
>>>
>>> I don't know what that means, but good anyway.
>>
>>I imagine it will go the way of Napster.
>
> Napster disappeared, but file sharing only got bigger.
>
> --
> JohnJohn

Yes, because others figured out how to make it attractive to download music
without piracy.

Cheri

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:22:20 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>
>>
>> If you are taking the time to decide in a restaurant, you are taking up time
>> that the waiter could be spending somewhere else.
>
> Rubbish. FGS, Julie, what kind of desperate dump do you eat in? In
>any good restaurant the waiter provides a written menu and leaves the
>customers in peace to make their choice, goes away to attend to other
>customers, then comes back later when they can see the table is ready to
>order.
>
> Janet UK

It is the waiter's job. It is accounted for in the cost of running
the business.
Janet US

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:14:54 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>According to a report one year ago, 2% of US citizens do not have access, but 20% prefer not to.
>That is one in five who do not have access for one reason or another. That is significant.
>
>Perhaps rude was not the best word for what you meant. If someone passing by a Redbox when
>they enter or leave a store decides on the spur of the moment to rent a movie, I don't consider that rude.
>
>
>N.
What I said was " If
you can make your choice at home, why be rude and take up other
people's time as you quibble about what to get?" I am willing to
change rude to inconsiderate.
Of the one in five, many of those will not be standing at a Red Box
with a credit card due to age, finances or lack of video equipment.

Janet US

On 2014-08-17, JohnJohn > wrote:

> Napster disappeared, but file sharing only got bigger.

I'm not sure where it will end, but copying off the internet is easier
than ever. The simplest method is youtube-dl:

http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/

It requires python, so Windows users will need to install a basic
python interpreter (choose 2.7). Not sure about Apple.

Youtube has it all (newer movies, not so much). Full movies (older),
full record albums, etc. If you can't find what you want on youtube,
wait a week.

nb

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:14:54 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>According to a report one year ago, 2% of US citizens do not have access, but 20% prefer not to.
>That is one in five who do not have access for one reason or another. That is significant.
>
>Perhaps rude was not the best word for what you meant. If someone passing by a Redbox when
>they enter or leave a store decides on the spur of the moment to rent a movie, I don't consider that rude.
>
>
>N.
Sorry, I didn't reply directly to your point. Many people pass the
Box and purchase. I have no problem with that at all. All my Red
boxes have a panel alongside with all the popular offerings displayed.
Why not stand there and decide what you want? Then move over to the
machine and order your video?
It's no longer a problem for me. I peruse the selections at home,
reserve and can pick up any time within 24 hours.
Janet US

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:42:35 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> It is not rude to pick a movie from the machine! NOT EVERYONE HAS
>>> ONLINE >>ACCESS!!, or did that fact
>>> not register in your brain. Where our Redboxes are, there are usually
>>> two >>together. I have never seen a "squabble"
>>> at a Redbox, nor have I ever seen someone waiting for access. Sheesh, get >>over it.
>>>
>>> N.
>> You're the one making a big deal of it. I dropped it only to have you
>> come forward. It also didn't require shouting. Glad you have 2
>> Redboxes. Not everyone has 2 Redboxes. I guess you couldn't
>> understand the circumstances that I put forward. However, this whole
>> brouhaha came about because I said how easy it was to pick out a movie
>> online. If that gets your panties in a twist, I can't help you. Out
>> of curiosity, I would however, love to know the percentage of people
>> in the US that do not have online access in this day and age. That's
>> the weakest argument.
>> Janet US
>
> Off the top of my head, I can think of 7. There are probably more. Most
> of the elderly relatives on either side of the family have none. We did
> have a neighbor who didn't. They moved.
>
> And as I said prior, many people might get one as a spur of the moment
> thing. They're out. The kid sees the Redbox. What would you have them
> do? Sit in their car and order it from their Smartphone so you don't have
> to wait behind them?

That's exactly what I do when it's a spur of the moment thing. Why??
Because I don't want to take the chance that any of the gazillion people in
line in front of me will rent the hot new release I am hoping to rent. So
even if I have to wait in line 10 minutes I know I'm getting the movie of
my choice by reserving it on my smartphone while standing in line.
--
jinx the minx

Surely that would depend on the authors' target readership. Eighth grade is teenage level. I'm 56 years-old, I don't want books that read like they're written for teenagers.
>
>
>
> That is what newspapers are written at.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readability

That's only the readability of newspapers from a study that was done in 1948. A few years later the readability level went up to 11th grade not 8th. However, reading and writing isn't just about newspapers and magazines, it's about the wonderful world of books.

"In 1948, Bernard Feld did a study of every item and ad in the Birmingham News of 20 November 1947. He divided the items into those above the 8th-grade level and those at the 8th grade or below. He chose the 8th-grade breakpoint because that was the average reading level of adult readers. An 8th-grade text "will reach about 50 percent of all American grown-ups," he wrote. Among the wire-service stories, the lower group got two-thirds more readers, and among local stories, 75 percent more readers. Feld also believed in drilling writers in Flesch's clear-writing principles.[54]
Both Rudolf Flesch and Robert Gunning worked extensively with newspapers and the wire services in improving readability. Mainly through their efforts in a few years, the readability of U.S. newspapers went from the 16th to the 11th-grade level, where it remains today."

Cherry

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...

> It's no longer a problem for me. I peruse the selections at home,
> reserve and can pick up any time within 24 hours.
> Janet US

Wait...That makes too much sense, how rude of you to even suggest it. ;-)

Cheri

If you are taking the time to decide in a restaurant, you are taking up time
that the waiter could be spending somewhere else. Usually when I sit down,
I already know what I want. I might have to ask questions though to make
sure that I can eat it.
>
> If you are in the aisle of the store, you may well be in someone's way
>
> >
Not the same thing at all. If someone is in my way I just say, "excuse me,
may I pass" and that person moves out of the way. So you can't use that as
justification.
>
> Cherry
>
> ---
> Actually I can use whatever I want. Those machines are put there for people to use. They are using them as intended. How in the world is that rude? It isn't.

Of course you can use whatever you want, but that doesn't make you right.

Cherry

On Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:17:28 PM UTC+1, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/17/2014 4:28 AM, Cherry wrote:
>
>
Oh of course not :-) Tho' personally, I don't know why people waste time downloading when there are a lot sites where you can stream TV shows and films.
>
> > Cherry
>
>
Not everyone has internet speeds to support streaming, so a download solves that problem. You also have more versatility on the playback time or stop and watch the rest later.

Okey dokey, that's understandable.

Cherry

On Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:27:07 PM UTC+1, JohnJohn wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:17:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >On 8/17/2014 4:28 AM, Cherry wrote:
>
Oh of course not :-) Tho' personally, I don't know why people waste time downloading when there are a lot sites where you can stream TV shows and films.
>
Cherry
>
> >
Not everyone has internet speeds to support streaming, so a download solves that problem. You also have more versatility on the playback time
or stop and watch the rest later.
>
>
Plus I can take a download to my tv or to a cabin in the woods that has no Internet.
> --
JohnJohn

Fair enough.

Cherry

On 8/16/2014 9:53 PM, Cherry wrote:
>>> Surely, a "writer" like yourself has a good enough vocabulary (or
> dictionary) to know exactly what it means?
>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>>
>> It is not a word that I ever heard before and not one that I'm likely to hear again. Good writers know that they had best write at an 8th grade level or less if they want to be understood!
>
>
> Surely that would depend on the authors' target readership. Eighth grade is teenage level. I'm 56 years-old, I don't want books that read like they're written for teenagers.
>
> Cherry
>

I learned to write for the age level suitable for broadcasting -
understandable by the average 14 year old. This is a good thing.

On Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:57:37 PM UTC+1, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 01:27:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> > wrote:
>
> snip
>
Actually I can use whatever I want. Those machines are put there for people
to use. They are using them as intended. How in the world is that rude?
It isn't.
>
>
It's a matter of courtesy to others. Using Redbox in situ is not rude. Messing around while holding up other people needlessly is.
>
Janet US

Agreed wholeheartedly.

Cherry

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 00:44:09 -0700 (PDT), Cherry >
wrote:

>
> > > Maybe they should make an example out of her for brazenly promoting theft.
> >
> > > --Bryan
> >
> >
> >
> > Honestly, I don't think she has any idea they are pirated and her family is cheating the actors and makers out of royalties.
> > --
> > Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.
>
> I don't know how it is in the US, but here (UK) a lot of ISPs are blocking sites like The Pirate Bay. I couldn't download from them even if I wanted to.
>

That is probably the case here too, but those who pirate find a way.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:17:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 8/17/2014 4:28 AM, Cherry wrote:
>
> >
> > Oh of course not :-) Tho' personally, I don't know why people waste time downloading when there are a lot sites where you can stream TV shows and films.
> >
> > Cherry
>
> Not everyone has internet speeds to support streaming, so a download
> solves that problem. You also have more versatility on the playback time
> or stop and watch the rest later.

How long does it take people who don't have the internet speed to
support streaming to download a single movie? Practically forever,
I'd guess. IMO, it would be less frustrating to just rent the DVD.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:26:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
snip
>
>Even if I did have to wait 5-10 minutes behind someone, I do have patience.
>Sheesh.

Wait -- didn't you just say in another thread that the reason you keep
paper towel in the bathroom is because walking back and forth from
kitchen to bathroom was difficult for you because of your handicap?
Yet you can stand for 15 minutes without a problem?
Janet US

On Sunday, August 17, 2014 6:54:53 PM UTC+1, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:17:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
On 8/17/2014 4:28 AM, Cherry wrote:
>
Oh of course not :-) Tho' personally, I don't know why people waste time downloading when there are a lot sites where you can stream TV shows and films.
>
Cherry
>
> >
Not everyone has internet speeds to support streaming, so a download solves that problem. You also have more versatility on the playback time or stop and watch the rest later.
>
>
How long does it take people who don't have the internet speed to support streaming to download a single movie? Practically forever, 'd guess. IMO, it would be less frustrating to just rent the DVD.
> --

That would be the sensible option, but you know how it is with some people. If they can get something for free ...

Cherry

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:18:04 +0000 (UTC), jinx the minx
> wrote:

>"Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:42:35 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is not rude to pick a movie from the machine! NOT EVERYONE HAS
>>>> ONLINE >>ACCESS!!, or did that fact
>>>> not register in your brain. Where our Redboxes are, there are usually
>>>> two >>together. I have never seen a "squabble"
>>>> at a Redbox, nor have I ever seen someone waiting for access. Sheesh, get >>over it.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>> You're the one making a big deal of it. I dropped it only to have you
>>> come forward. It also didn't require shouting. Glad you have 2
>>> Redboxes. Not everyone has 2 Redboxes. I guess you couldn't
>>> understand the circumstances that I put forward. However, this whole
>>> brouhaha came about because I said how easy it was to pick out a movie
>>> online. If that gets your panties in a twist, I can't help you. Out
>>> of curiosity, I would however, love to know the percentage of people
>>> in the US that do not have online access in this day and age. That's
>>> the weakest argument.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> Off the top of my head, I can think of 7. There are probably more. Most
>> of the elderly relatives on either side of the family have none. We did
>> have a neighbor who didn't. They moved.
>>
>> And as I said prior, many people might get one as a spur of the moment
>> thing. They're out. The kid sees the Redbox. What would you have them
>> do? Sit in their car and order it from their Smartphone so you don't have
>> to wait behind them?
>
>That's exactly what I do when it's a spur of the moment thing. Why??
>Because I don't want to take the chance that any of the gazillion people in
>line in front of me will rent the hot new release I am hoping to rent. So
>even if I have to wait in line 10 minutes I know I'm getting the movie of
>my choice by reserving it on my smartphone while standing in line.

Sneaky lady ;o)
Janet US