pltrgyst wrote:
>Pete the Creep wrote:
>>
>> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
>> not much like the english muffins found in London.
>
>True. That's why my wife has a favorite recipe for loaves of English
>muffin bread that she makes in the bread machine.
>
>We slice them, and the have a nice crumb on both sides, so they toast up
>*really* nicely.

Total BS... there is nothing UK about English muffins... they're a US
invention. It's easy to tell that Pete is an uneducated putz, he
doesn't know that English is capitalized... Pete is a High School drop
out and never even got his GED. And pltrgyst, don't you get all
puffed up, you're uneducated too, and your using your wife for
credibility makes her your filthy slut... ABM English muffin bread
your lying ass.

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:29:08 -0500, "Gus" >
wrote:

> I was watching "World's End" last night and the one lady said a few
> times "oh crumbs" as kind of a mild curse. Never heard that before in a
> UK show or movie. I wonder if Simon Pegg made it up? I love Spaced,
> and like Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. And that one with an alien.
> But didn't think "World's End" was very funny or interesting.
>

I've heard/read "oh, crumb" as a mild oath before.

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On 29/12/2013 06:06, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:29:08 -0500, "Gus" >
> wrote:
>
>> I was watching "World's End" last night and the one lady said a few
>> times "oh crumbs" as kind of a mild curse. Never heard that before in a
>> UK show or movie. I wonder if Simon Pegg made it up? I love Spaced,
>> and like Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. And that one with an alien.
>> But didn't think "World's End" was very funny or interesting.
>>
>
> I've heard/read "oh, crumb" as a mild oath before.
>
How is it possible for a Brit to explain to an American the difference
between these things? You can move a few miles down the road and the
name changes. Scones in many areas are called scons. As regards bread
products the various names they are called is confusing to the local
inhabitants never mind foreigners!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:03:12 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2013-12-28 9:48 AM, sf wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>> >>>> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread?
>> >>>> At
>> >>>> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>> >>>> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor
>> >>>> belt?
>> >>> Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
>> >>
>> >> I love crumpets too (they are different from English muffins).
>> >> They're easy enough to make, but they're even easier to buy.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > They are similar in many ways but different. I always used to like
>> > crumpets but have been terribly disappointed with them for years.
>> > Perhaps
>> > it is time to try making them.
>>
>> easy peasy
>
> You should include a recipe with that.

As is often from me ... Delia))

http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/28/2013 5:39 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 12/28/2013 5:04 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 12/28/2013 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A scone is more like a biscuit in texture, but usually a little
>>>>>> richer,
>>>>>> and cut into wedge or diamonds shapes. They are usually served with
>>>>>> jam
>>>>>> and butter or clotted cream. There are a lot of scones being flogged
>>>>>> these days that are loaded with sugar and often covered in icing,
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> different from the scones my English grandmother made... and hers did
>>>>>> not rhyme with stones.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's that e that makes it a long o, if they wanted a short o,
>>>>> leave off the e.
>>>>
>>>> Well, we said 'scons' and written they were scones
>>>
>>> I've always said 'scons' but written scones.
>>
>> Aye but you are one of us ...
>>
>>
> LOL Sometimes I think it's very funny. I've never been to Scotland. Most
> likely never will. But I do remember the way my grandmother talked and
> little phrases my mother must have gotten from her. They stick in my mind.
> Ye ken?

Aye, ah ken fine) Now where is Sheila. You can be sure she kens too

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"Gus" > wrote in message
...
> "pltrgyst" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/28/13 1:44 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>>>
>>> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
>>> not much like the english muffins found in London.
>>
>> True. That's why my wife has a favorite recipe for loaves of English
>> muffin bread that she makes in the bread machine.
>>
>> We slice them, and the have a nice crumb on both sides, so they toast up
>> *really* nicely.
>
> I was watching "World's End" last night and the one lady said a few times
> "oh crumbs" as kind of a mild curse. Never heard that before in a UK show
> or movie. I wonder if Simon Pegg made it up? I love Spaced, and like
> Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. And that one with an alien. But didn't
> think "World's End" was very funny or interesting.

LOL we use 'Crumbs' too)
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/28/2013 5:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2013-12-28 5:04 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> It's that e that makes it a long o, if they wanted a short o,
>>>> leave off the e.
>>>
>>> Well, we said 'scons' and written they were scones
>>
>>
>>
>> My English grandmother used to make them and she called them 'scons' my
>> other grandmother, mostly Irish and Scottish made them and called them
>> scones. It is relatively recent that they started appearing in coffee
>> shops, usually very sweet and over iced and they call them 'scones'. I
>> always figured they were not British and/or had not been raised with
>> 'scons' so they just didn't know any better.
>
> Dialects very from place to place. Scons, scones. Once they left the
> British Isles scones wound up in coffee shops in North America. Probably
> right next to the doughnuts.
>
> The scones I remember were like a bit like buttermilk biscuits, except
> cream of tartar was involved. No currants, no raisins, no dried fruit of
> any kind. There was probably a pinch of sugar in the dough. Grandma
> shaped scones into triangles and baked them on a well greased cast iron
> griddle. I still have and use Grandma's cast iron griddle.

What you are describing sound like 'griddle scones' Btw I learned to say
'scons' growing up in Yorkshire

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"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, December 28, 2013 3:04:05 PM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On 12/28/2013 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >> A scone is more like a biscuit in texture, but usually a little
>> >> richer,
>>
>> >> and cut into wedge or diamonds shapes. They are usually served with
>> >> jam
>>
>> >> and butter or clotted cream. There are a lot of scones being flogged
>>
>> >> these days that are loaded with sugar and often covered in icing,
>> >> much
>>
>> >> different from the scones my English grandmother made... and hers did
>>
>> >> not rhyme with stones.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > It's that e that makes it a long o, if they wanted a short o,
>>
>> > leave off the e.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, we said 'scons' and written they were scones
>>
>
> Unfortunately the English have one 'ell of a time pronouncing what they
> write...and the Scots are not much better.

lol

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"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, December 28, 2013 3:39:02 PM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On 12/28/2013 5:04 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> ...
>>
>> >>> On 12/28/2013 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>>> A scone is more like a biscuit in texture, but usually a little
>> >>>> richer,
>>
>> >>>> and cut into wedge or diamonds shapes. They are usually served with
>> >>>> jam
>>
>> >>>> and butter or clotted cream. There are a lot of scones being
>> >>>> flogged
>>
>> >>>> these days that are loaded with sugar and often covered in icing,
>>
>> >>>> much
>>
>> >>>> different from the scones my English grandmother made... and hers
>> >>>> did
>>
>> >>>> not rhyme with stones.
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>> It's that e that makes it a long o, if they wanted a short o,
>>
>> >>> leave off the e.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Well, we said 'scons' and written they were scones
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I've always said 'scons' but written scones.
>>
>>
>>
>> Aye but you are one of us ...
>
> You make it sound like a conspiracy...ahahahahaha.

*mysterious look*
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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:29:08 -0500, "Gus" >
> wrote:
>
>> I was watching "World's End" last night and the one lady said a few
>> times "oh crumbs" as kind of a mild curse. Never heard that before in a
>> UK show or movie. I wonder if Simon Pegg made it up? I love Spaced,
>> and like Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. And that one with an alien.
>> But didn't think "World's End" was very funny or interesting.
>>
>
> I've heard/read "oh, crumb" as a mild oath before.

I use it)

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On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 11:05:13 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:03:12 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> easy peasy
> >
> > You should include a recipe with that.
>
> As is often from me ... Delia))
>
> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html

Just an FYI - I bought a set of silicone egg rings to use and they
work very well for crumpets.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...eL._SY300_.jpg

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On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:01:24 +0000, Broadback
> wrote:

> On 29/12/2013 06:06, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:29:08 -0500, "Gus" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I was watching "World's End" last night and the one lady said a few
> >> times "oh crumbs" as kind of a mild curse. Never heard that before in a
> >> UK show or movie. I wonder if Simon Pegg made it up? I love Spaced,
> >> and like Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. And that one with an alien.
> >> But didn't think "World's End" was very funny or interesting.
> >>
> >
> > I've heard/read "oh, crumb" as a mild oath before.
> >
> How is it possible for a Brit to explain to an American the difference
> between these things? You can move a few miles down the road and the
> name changes. Scones in many areas are called scons. As regards bread
> products the various names they are called is confusing to the local
> inhabitants never mind foreigners!

Thank you. It sounds like classic Italy!

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On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 11:38:40 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Gus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "pltrgyst" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 12/28/13 1:44 PM, Pete C. wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
> >>> not much like the english muffins found in London.
> >>
> >> True. That's why my wife has a favorite recipe for loaves of English
> >> muffin bread that she makes in the bread machine.
> >>
> >> We slice them, and the have a nice crumb on both sides, so they toast up
> >> *really* nicely.
> >
> > I was watching "World's End" last night and the one lady said a few times
> > "oh crumbs" as kind of a mild curse. Never heard that before in a UK show
> > or movie. I wonder if Simon Pegg made it up? I love Spaced, and like
> > Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. And that one with an alien. But didn't
> > think "World's End" was very funny or interesting.
>
> LOL we use 'Crumbs' too)

and when a situation or object isn't very good, it's crumby.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 11:05:13 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:03:12 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> easy peasy
>> >
>> > You should include a recipe with that.
>>
>> As is often from me ... Delia))
>>
>> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html
>
> Just an FYI - I bought a set of silicone egg rings to use and they
> work very well for crumpets.
> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...eL._SY300_.jpg

Thanks!!! Something I don't have. I love silicone stuff mainly for
freezing food in.

Ok I can get get those in Lakeland!!! They are now on my Lakeland list)
Can you tell I like them ... )

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Norpro-Silic...894667-7356312

I see you can get them in different shapes too
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In addition to scones, does anyone make Welsh Cakes or another UK
equivalent? Sultanas, raisins, currants, or none?

I have my great-grandmother's Welsh iron bakestone (ca. 1870) just for
them. It works very well on the induction cooktop, but due to its rough
texture, I have to be careful when placing and removing it.

-- Larry

"pltrgyst" > wrote in message
...
> In addition to scones, does anyone make Welsh Cakes or another UK
> equivalent? Sultanas, raisins, currants, or none?
>
> I have my great-grandmother's Welsh iron bakestone (ca. 1870) just for
> them. It works very well on the induction cooktop, but due to its rough
> texture, I have to be careful when placing and removing it.

I've never made them but as you might guess, I do trust Delia's recipes

http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...lsh-cakes.html


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On 12/29/2013 6:37 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> Aye, ah ken fine) Now where is Sheila. You can be sure she kens too
>

Do you say 'girdle' (rather than griddle) scones in Yorkshire, or is
that just Scotland?

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/29/2013 6:37 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Aye, ah ken fine) Now where is Sheila. You can be sure she kens too
>>
>
> Do you say 'girdle' (rather than griddle) scones in Yorkshire, or is that
> just Scotland?

No, just Scotland which is where I got mixed up)))

Griddle - Yorkshire Girdle - Scotland I did think about that but I was
too late

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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/29/2013 6:37 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Aye, ah ken fine) Now where is Sheila. You can be sure she kens too
>>
>
> Do you say 'girdle' (rather than griddle) scones in Yorkshire, or is that
> just Scotland?

No, just Scotland which is where I got mixed up)))

Griddle - Yorkshire Girdle - Scotland I did think about that but I was
too late

Thanks, Sheila


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On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:30:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>>>> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
>>>> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>>>> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor belt?
>>>Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
>>
>> Especially with so many tarts out there!
>
>Ooh you cheeky monkey!!!

What?? It's just another baked item, isn't it??

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:30:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>>>>> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread?
>>>>> At
>>>>> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>>>>> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor
>>>>> belt?
>>>>Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
>>>
>>> Especially with so many tarts out there!
>>
>>Ooh you cheeky monkey!!!
>
> What?? It's just another baked item, isn't it??
>
>

Aye ;p bachatcha.
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On Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:44:25 PM UTC-5, Pete C. wrote:
>
> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
> not much like the english muffins found in London. Bay's is the closest
> thing to authentic I'm aware of in the US.

I've never seen "English Muffins" in London. Are they
a new introduction (in the last 30 years)?

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 1/8/2014 5:00 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:44:25 PM UTC-5, Pete C. wrote:
>>
>> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
>> not much like the english muffins found in London. Bay's is the closest
>> thing to authentic I'm aware of in the US.
>
> I've never seen "English Muffins" in London. Are they
> a new introduction (in the last 30 years)?

I don't find Thomas' or Giant Supermarket "English Muffins" particularly
stale. Slit, they toast very well.

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