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![]() "Julie Bove" wrote in message ... "Sqwertz" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:55:25 -0700, sf wrote: > >> I will never understand why people go on and on about >> how good they are with they're as crappy tasting as any other bullion. > > Obviously you're in the minority. > > Even when making my home made chicken stock, some chicken base goes in > there at the very end to brighten it up. Usually Minor's, Tone's or > Empire brand (sold at Restaurant Depot). The Empire brand is even > better than Minor's IMO. And cheaper at $3.84/pint. And their lobster > base is #11.39/lb. I've nevere tried the regular BTB. Only the organic. It's good! But I hate that it has to be refrigerated. Now I use Savory Choice Liquid. > > I've never refrigerated BTB chicken or beef. We've never had loss of taste or infection. |
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![]() "Kent" > wrote in message ... > > > "Julie Bove" wrote in message ... > > > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message > ... >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:55:25 -0700, sf wrote: >> >>> I will never understand why people go on and on about >>> how good they are with they're as crappy tasting as any other bullion. >> >> Obviously you're in the minority. >> >> Even when making my home made chicken stock, some chicken base goes in >> there at the very end to brighten it up. Usually Minor's, Tone's or >> Empire brand (sold at Restaurant Depot). The Empire brand is even >> better than Minor's IMO. And cheaper at $3.84/pint. And their lobster >> base is #11.39/lb. > > I've nevere tried the regular BTB. Only the organic. It's good! But I > hate that it has to be refrigerated. Now I use Savory Choice Liquid. >> >> > > I've never refrigerated BTB chicken or beef. We've never had loss of > taste or infection. Hmmm... I think it say to refrigerate after opening. |
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"Paul M. Cook" wrote:
> > "Gary" > wrote in message ... > > Sqwertz wrote: > >> > > < Better than Bullion> > > > >> The clam is also perfect for clam chowder - much more flavor > >> than clam juice. > >> > >> -sw > > > > Wow. I'm surprised to hear you say that, Steve. > > I can't imagine a better clam chowder than made > > all natural using live clams. > > > > Base is natural clam flavor. Chef's have used it for generations. It used > to be their little secret. All it is is highly concentrated stock. What is > wrong with that? > > Paul Nothing wrong with it if that's all it is. I maybe wrongly assumed that it was a simulated clam flavor. Gary |
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Gary wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" wrote: >> >> "Gary" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Sqwertz wrote: >>>> >>> < Better than Bullion> >>> >>>> The clam is also perfect for clam chowder - much more flavor >>>> than clam juice. >>>> >>>> -sw >>> >>> Wow. I'm surprised to hear you say that, Steve. >>> I can't imagine a better clam chowder than made >>> all natural using live clams. >>> >> >> Base is natural clam flavor. Chef's have used it for generations. >> It used to be their little secret. All it is is highly concentrated >> stock. What is wrong with that? >> >> Paul > > Nothing wrong with it if that's all it is. I maybe wrongly assumed > that it was a simulated clam flavor. SF is wrong about the stuff. I looked to see what it contains. Contains real meat. |
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message > ... >> sf wrote: >>> On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:37:29 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" > >>> wrote: >>>> "sf" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:48:43 -0700, "Kent" > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There is precious little true beef ingredient in Better than Bouillon. >>>>>> Not >>>>>> that that is bad. I use it. >>>>> I absolutely HATE anything that goes by the name "Better than >>>>> Bouillon". It's poorly flavored salt. You can't tell what flavor >>>>> it's supposed to be, but you know they've done something - because >>>>> it's not pure salt. >>>> I use the clam and lobster all the time. It's not restaurant quality >>>> but then I can't buy from a wholesaler. >>>> >>> Clam and lobster Better than Bullion? They don't stock like that in >>> the grocery store I shop at, but I wouldn't buy it even if they did. >>> If I wanted a seafood flavor, I'd buy clam juice in a bottle. >>> >> I bought some clam. In days of yore, clam was a "hot soda flavor". Thus >> far, the formulae I have tried have been very lacking in flavor. > > > So people went into soda shops and said "jerk me a clam?" > > Paul > > LOL! That sounds kind-of obscene. And even though they were called "hot sodas", they generally were not carbonated. Some of the formulae sound pretty vile How about a nice clam and malt combination? (I did not make that up.) -- Jean B. |
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Julie Bove wrote:
> "Kent" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ... >> >> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:55:25 -0700, sf wrote: >>> >>>> I will never understand why people go on and on about >>>> how good they are with they're as crappy tasting as any other bullion. >>> Obviously you're in the minority. >>> >>> Even when making my home made chicken stock, some chicken base goes in >>> there at the very end to brighten it up. Usually Minor's, Tone's or >>> Empire brand (sold at Restaurant Depot). The Empire brand is even >>> better than Minor's IMO. And cheaper at $3.84/pint. And their lobster >>> base is #11.39/lb. >> I've nevere tried the regular BTB. Only the organic. It's good! But I >> hate that it has to be refrigerated. Now I use Savory Choice Liquid. >>> >> I've never refrigerated BTB chicken or beef. We've never had loss of >> taste or infection. > > Hmmm... I think it say to refrigerate after opening. > > I think it does. I opened one, and it now resides in the fridge. (I will have to decide whether I ever want to use it again. Heck, I could avail myself of some of the better bases. -- Jean B. |
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sf > wrote in news:do1us758ijqoi382uubuhkk82gq5flb2in@
4ax.com: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:56:09 -0500, Fava Ben > wrote: > >> On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:26:36 -0700, sf wrote: >> >> > Swanson Flavor Boost? It was on the top shelf, on clearance today - >> > which surprised me because I'd never seen it before. I bought the >> > Vegetable flavored Flavor Boost, but I haven't tried it yet. >> >> Whatever you do, don't tell us what it is. >> >> (Kinda ironic coming from the person who can't look up anything >> herself) >> >> -sw > > You love me. You're addicted to me. Admit it! I know it and > everyone else does too - because you respond to me even though you > claim to have me in your kill file. You are so eager to respond that > you can't wait and pretend that I'm in your kill file. Or, maybe > you're too poor to afford anything so expensive as a kill file... but > you can't admit that you just can't admit it. Poor little you. <sob> > LMAO!!!!! -- Peter Tasmania Australia |
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On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 10:48:43 -0500, Durian Berry >
wrote: > > I think you're suffering from sour, senile, spiteful old lady > syndrome. And you're suffering from blimpus headus. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:10:29 +0000 (UTC), "I'm back on the laptop"
> wrote: > sf > wrote in news:do1us758ijqoi382uubuhkk82gq5flb2in@ > 4ax.com: > > >> > >> (Kinda ironic coming from the person who can't look up anything > >> herself) > >> > >> -sw > > > > You love me. You're addicted to me. Admit it! I know it and > > everyone else does too - because you respond to me even though you > > claim to have me in your kill file. You are so eager to respond that > > you can't wait and pretend that I'm in your kill file. Or, maybe > > you're too poor to afford anything so expensive as a kill file... but > > you can't admit that you just can't admit it. Poor little you. <sob> > > > > > > LMAO!!!!! He can't seem to quit nymshifting. It's obvious he has a hard on for me, which means I should be getting candy and flowers out of this pretty soon. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:57:41 -0400, Jean B. wrote: > >> I bought some clam. In days of yore, clam was a "hot soda >> flavor". Thus far, the formulae I have tried have been very >> lacking in flavor. > > I drink Clamato juice like four Canadians rolled into one (It's the > self-proclaimed "National Cocktail of Canada"). Sometimes I warm it > up and drink it like a broth (after adding a few sqwertz of hot sauce > and some worcestershire, of course). Bacon can't hurt either: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...in/photostream > > Hmm, maybe they should rename Canada to Clamada. It's really easy to > pronounce when you're drunk on Bloody Ceasars. > > -sw I am tempted to say "blech" or some such thing, but then I don't think I have ever imbibed Clamato juice. I suppose I should rectify that someday. -- Jean B. |
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On 6/12/2012 1:25 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:48:17 -0500, George Leppla wrote: >> >> A few years ago a friend told me that Clamato has no clam juice in it. I >> thought he was nuts, but http://www.clamato.com/en/about/faq.aspx#faq1 >> They say less than 0.01% is clam broth. >> >> That's close enough to nothing as far as I am concerned. > > I thought the ingredients used to say "dried clam powder" at one > point. I think it did used to be clamier. But to me it tastes like a > good, tart, smooth tomato broth that works well in many soup and > chowders. As a drink it is basically a cool, savory broth that takes > well to worcestershire and hot sauces. > > They also have (or had?) Shrimp and Beef flavors as well. And of > course Picante. I love Bloody Mary's and I like clams... but I never got into combining the two (I think they call it a Clamdigger) Just didn't taste right to me. George L |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:59:00 -0400, Jean B. wrote: > >> I am tempted to say "blech" or some such thing, but then I don't >> think I have ever imbibed Clamato juice. I suppose I should >> rectify that someday. > > How you live this long without having tried Clamato? This is totally > baffling to me. > > Clamato is like a cold, tart tomato and clam broth. Awesome stuff. > I've known people that refused to try it just based on "clam" factor. > I hate those people with thoee kinds of unreasonable food phobias :-) > > -sw Hey, at least I have bitten a tomato and done various other earth-shattering things. Oh, did I say here that I was looking at a recipe for a salad made of squid tentacles and cucumber, and my daughter objects to the cucumber? :-) Anyway, back to Clamato, I'll try to remember to try some. Heck, if I don't like drinking it, I can kluge together some of that Manhattan-style clam chowder, although those of us in Boston tend to cast aspersions on that style. -- Jean B. |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:22:02 -0400, Jean B. wrote: > >> I like V8. I suspect I will like Clamato, but I am wondering >> whether it only comes in a big container. > > It comes in 5.5, 8, 10, 11.5, 12, 16, 32, 33.8, and 64 ounce > containers. Now you have no reason not to try it :-) > > It also comes mixed with Budweiser and as an energy drink. Please > stay clear of those! > > -sw I detest beer. I will try to remember to get this when I am in the beverage aisle of the store. -- Jean B. |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:21:10 -0400, Jean B. wrote: > >> Anyway, back to Clamato, I'll try to remember to try some. Heck, >> if I don't like drinking it, I can kluge together some of that >> Manhattan-style clam chowder, although those of us in Boston tend >> to cast aspersions on that style. > > I also make a spicy shrimp "cocktail" out of it. I make a quart of > this every couple months: > > **** > > One of my favorite preps, a Sqwertz Original. This started out as a > simple shrimp ceviche, then morphed into a Mexican shrimp cocktail, > and is a full blown "chunky shrimp gazpacho". > > The shrimp may be cooked or left raw. I like the texture of the raw, > acid-cooked shrimp, but I prefer the taste of cooked shrimp. So you > decide: raw or cooked shrimp. When 25/30-count raw shrimp are split > in half lengthwise, they will cook in this mixture in 6-8 hours. > > This is acidic, flavorful, colorful, crisp and refreshing as a drink > and an appetizer. And one of the rare recipes I have written down > (just now). > > 1 can of Herdez Salsa Casera (preferred) or about half a can of Rotel > and all it's juice. > Half of a cucumber, peeled, seeded and chunked to 1/4" > 1/3 - 1/2 Half pound of medium shrimp, deveined, peeled, sliced in > half lengthwise (and optionally cooked) > Juice of 3 key limes or one large lime. Or 1TB rice vinegar. > 1 each jalapeno and serrano, DEVEINED and SEEDED and sliced thinly. > 2 Tablespoon finely chopped red onion (or white, or yellow) > 1 clove garlic, pressed > 16-20oz of Clamato (or V8 I suppose - but I don't like V8) > Pinch of crumbled dried thyme > Pinch of ground celery seed > 2-3 teaspoon of sugar (to taste, but use at least this much) > > Mix everything together and let sit in the fridge overnight. I serve > in chilled Belgian ale chalices with a spoon for sipping and spooning. > > If it's too tart you can add a _very light dusting_ of baking soda to > neutralize the acids and just use less vinegar next time. > > Lousy pictu > http://www.flickr.com/photos/7275891...n/photostream/ > > -sw Not bad. There's one thing I can do with it if I don't like imbibing it. -- Jean B. |
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