[Michel Boucher[_3_]]

sf > wrote in
news
>>> 5. Try to edit your replies (as I have done) and to avoid top
>>> posting. Some people here killfile top posters.
>>>
>>> Go forth, grasshopper...
>>
>>this is a pretty good set of advice. my hat's off to you, michel.
>>
> Except for the top posting part.

Sheesh, there's always a critic...

I don't think I said anything untoward. It is true that some people will
killfile top posters. This was my warning, hence the suggestion to avoid
it. If you disagree, perhaps you'd like to offer substantial evidence to
the contrary, to wit that few or none killfile top posters.

--

I have nothing against God.
It's his fan club I can't stand.

spotted on a poster

[sf[_9_]]

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:11:16 -0600, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

>sf > wrote in
>news >
>>>> 5. Try to edit your replies (as I have done) and to avoid top
>>>> posting. Some people here killfile top posters.
>>>>
>>>> Go forth, grasshopper...
>>>
>>>this is a pretty good set of advice. my hat's off to you, michel.
>>>
>> Except for the top posting part.
>
>Sheesh, there's always a critic...
>
>I don't think I said anything untoward. It is true that some people will
>killfile top posters. This was my warning, hence the suggestion to avoid
>it. If you disagree, perhaps you'd like to offer substantial evidence to
>the contrary, to wit that few or none killfile top posters.

It was the avoid top posting part I des agree with. I think all posts
should be top posted, that way proper attributions stay with the first
line of each post.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

[Sky]

sf wrote:
>
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:11:16 -0600, Michel Boucher
> > wrote:
>
> >sf > wrote in
> >news > >
> >>>> 5. Try to edit your replies (as I have done) and to avoid top
> >>>> posting. Some people here killfile top posters.
> >>>>
> >>>> Go forth, grasshopper...
> >>>
> >>>this is a pretty good set of advice. my hat's off to you, michel.
> >>>
> >> Except for the top posting part.
> >
> >Sheesh, there's always a critic...
> >
> >I don't think I said anything untoward. It is true that some people will
> >killfile top posters. This was my warning, hence the suggestion to avoid
> >it. If you disagree, perhaps you'd like to offer substantial evidence to
> >the contrary, to wit that few or none killfile top posters.
>
> It was the avoid top posting part I des agree with. I think all posts
> should be top posted, that way proper attributions stay with the first
> line of each post.


I prefer top posting too, but RFC doesn't for some reason <g>. It's a
lot easier to read someone's post at the top, especially if it's in
response to a long thread. That way, one doesn't have to scroll down
all the way to the bottom, unless they want to read all the text
included. But, as it's said.... when in Denmark ...

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

[Michel Boucher[_3_]]

Sky > wrote in
:

> I prefer top posting too, but RFC doesn't for some reason <g>. It's a
> lot easier to read someone's post at the top, especially if it's in
> response to a long thread. That way, one doesn't have to scroll down
> all the way to the bottom, unless they want to read all the text
> included. But, as it's said.... when in Denmark ...

This is why one should learn to edit and retain only those portions of text
which are germane to the conversation such as I have done here. I'm sure
the pain of scrolling all the way down to the bottom of this post will not
tire you out too much.

And sf, as far as attribution is concerned, this is maintained as well, as
you can clearly see.

--

I have nothing against God.
It's his fan club I can't stand.

spotted on a poster

[Sky]

Michel Boucher wrote:
>
> Sky > wrote in
> :
>
> > I prefer top posting too, but RFC doesn't for some reason <g>. It's a
> > lot easier to read someone's post at the top, especially if it's in
> > response to a long thread. That way, one doesn't have to scroll down
> > all the way to the bottom, unless they want to read all the text
> > included. But, as it's said.... when in Denmark ...
>
> This is why one should learn to edit and retain only those portions of text
> which are germane to the conversation such as I have done here. I'm sure
> the pain of scrolling all the way down to the bottom of this post will not
> tire you out too much.

I don't disagree at all <G>. What I tend to forget is to change the
subject/topic line when there's been significant thread drift, as often
happens.

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

[Goomba[_2_]]

Sky wrote:

> I don't disagree at all <G>. What I tend to forget is to change the
> subject/topic line when there's been significant thread drift, as often
> happens.
>
> Sky
>
And I'd rather people not change the subject line..... such is life. LOL

[sf[_9_]]

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:20:19 -0600, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

>Sky > wrote in
:
>
>> I prefer top posting too, but RFC doesn't for some reason <g>. It's a
>> lot easier to read someone's post at the top, especially if it's in
>> response to a long thread. That way, one doesn't have to scroll down
>> all the way to the bottom, unless they want to read all the text
>> included. But, as it's said.... when in Denmark ...
>
>This is why one should learn to edit and retain only those portions of text
>which are germane to the conversation such as I have done here. I'm sure
>the pain of scrolling all the way down to the bottom of this post will not
>tire you out too much.
>
>And sf, as far as attribution is concerned, this is maintained as well, as
>you can clearly see.

Try figuring it out in a long, messy thread. If bottom posting is the
rfc rule, then another rule should be that text be trimmed enough to
prevent scrolling. If I don't have to scroll, I don't care. I care
when I have to scroll through a lot of nonsense I've already read just
to find something new.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

[Michel Boucher[_3_]]

sf > wrote in newsbu9l5hfv1h8fq1trhgqobnmdsm1512ua6@
4ax.com:

> Try figuring it out in a long, messy thread. If bottom posting is the
> rfc rule, then another rule should be that text be trimmed enough to
> prevent scrolling.

To wit the point about...wait for it...*editing*.

--

I have nothing against God.
It's his fan club I can't stand.

spotted on a poster

[sf[_9_]]

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:32:27 -0600, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

>sf > wrote in newsbu9l5hfv1h8fq1trhgqobnmdsm1512ua6@
>4ax.com:
>
>> Try figuring it out in a long, messy thread. If bottom posting is the
>> rfc rule, then another rule should be that text be trimmed enough to
>> prevent scrolling.
>
>To wit the point about...wait for it...*editing*.

Which bottom posters often neglect to do.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

[I am Tosk]

In article >,
says...
>
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:20:19 -0600, Michel Boucher
> > wrote:
>
> >Sky > wrote in
> :
> >
> >> I prefer top posting too, but RFC doesn't for some reason <g>. It's a
> >> lot easier to read someone's post at the top, especially if it's in
> >> response to a long thread. That way, one doesn't have to scroll down
> >> all the way to the bottom, unless they want to read all the text
> >> included. But, as it's said.... when in Denmark ...
> >
> >This is why one should learn to edit and retain only those portions of text
> >which are germane to the conversation such as I have done here. I'm sure
> >the pain of scrolling all the way down to the bottom of this post will not
> >tire you out too much.
> >
> >And sf, as far as attribution is concerned, this is maintained as well, as
> >you can clearly see.
>
> Try figuring it out in a long, messy thread. If bottom posting is the
> rfc rule, then another rule should be that text be trimmed enough to
> prevent scrolling. If I don't have to scroll, I don't care. I care
> when I have to scroll through a lot of nonsense I've already read just
> to find something new.

I use Gravity as a reader and have it set up so the new post shows up in
larger type and a different color than quoted material. I keep the
cursor down in the lower right corner of the screen and push my mouse
button to scroll quickly. To skip to the next article I hit the "N" key
on the keyboard then tap the mouse a couple of times and scroll till I
see the bright red 16 point text Takes a second or so in most cases to
get to the new text..

Scotty

[Dan Abel]

In article >,
Sky > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:11:16 -0600, Michel Boucher
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >sf > wrote in
> > >news > > >
> > >>>> 5. Try to edit your replies (as I have done) and to avoid top
> > >>>> posting. Some people here killfile top posters.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Go forth, grasshopper...
> > >>>
> > >>>this is a pretty good set of advice. my hat's off to you, michel.
> > >>>
> > >> Except for the top posting part.
> > >
> > >Sheesh, there's always a critic...
> > >
> > >I don't think I said anything untoward. It is true that some people will
> > >killfile top posters. This was my warning, hence the suggestion to avoid
> > >it. If you disagree, perhaps you'd like to offer substantial evidence to
> > >the contrary, to wit that few or none killfile top posters.
> >
> > It was the avoid top posting part I des agree with. I think all posts
> > should be top posted, that way proper attributions stay with the first
> > line of each post.
>
>
> I prefer top posting too, but RFC doesn't for some reason <g>. It's a
> lot easier to read someone's post at the top, especially if it's in
> response to a long thread. That way, one doesn't have to scroll down
> all the way to the bottom, unless they want to read all the text
> included. But, as it's said.... when in Denmark ...

What top posters seem to miss, is the first half of the sentence of item
#5 above.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

[sf[_9_]]

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:48:42 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
>What top posters seem to miss, is the first half of the sentence of item
>#5 above.
First of all - I see it done more egregiously by bottom posters here.

Second - if I want to reply to the last two posts, I don't need to
reply and trim, I only need to highlight/reply.

Third - we don't need to worry about bandwidth issues in this day and
age.

Fourth - those who do have issues can set their news client not to
download bodies larger than x.

Fifth - look at sky's post again. She's an old timer on usenet yet
she cut out most of the attributions, keeping only the text. Top
posting fixes that.




--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

[Michel Boucher[_3_]]

sf > wrote in news:sru9l5p4db46duml2480q7r0aq98lk0vgc@
4ax.com:

> Fifth - look at sky's post again. She's an old timer on usenet yet
> she cut out most of the attributions, keeping only the text. Top
> posting fixes that.

So does proper bottom posting. Your point is specious.

--

I have nothing against God.
It's his fan club I can't stand.

spotted on a poster

[sf[_9_]]

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:28:19 -0600, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

>sf > wrote in news:sru9l5p4db46duml2480q7r0aq98lk0vgc@
>4ax.com:
>
>> Fifth - look at sky's post again. She's an old timer on usenet yet
>> she cut out most of the attributions, keeping only the text. Top
>> posting fixes that.
>
>So does proper bottom posting. Your point is specious.

Oh, no it doesn't. Attributions are separated from text with bottom
posting.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

[Lou decruss]

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:11:16 -0600, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

>sf > wrote in
>news >
>>>> 5. Try to edit your replies (as I have done) and to avoid top
>>>> posting. Some people here killfile top posters.
>>>>
>>>> Go forth, grasshopper...
>>>
>>>this is a pretty good set of advice. my hat's off to you, michel.
>>>
>> Except for the top posting part.
>
>Sheesh, there's always a critic...
>
>I don't think I said anything untoward. It is true that some people will
>killfile top posters. This was my warning, hence the suggestion to avoid
>it. If you disagree, perhaps you'd like to offer substantial evidence to
>the contrary, to wit that few or none killfile top posters.

I sure do. That and her ignorant comments about it got her put in my
KF. I told her I was going to do it and she said she could care less.
So I did. I've never seen anything quoted that she's penned that
makes me think I made the wrong decision.

And I've KF'd other top-posters too.

Lou