Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
jackoff.


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The Wolf > wrote:

> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
> jackoff.

Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
doing it only that way from now on.
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On 12/22/2003 6:53 AM, in article ,
"Elana Kehoe" > opined:

> The Wolf > wrote:
>
>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>> jackoff.
>
> Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
> doing it only that way from now on.

Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
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> > Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
> > doing it only that way from now on.
>
> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
>

What is so unusual about taking a clay pot (new, unused) and using it
thusly... instead of buying a clay baking dish sold in kitchen stores?
Goomba

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> > > Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
> > > doing it only that way from now on.
> >
> > Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
> >
>
> What is so unusual about taking a clay pot (new, unused) and using it
> thusly... instead of buying a clay baking dish sold in kitchen stores?
> Goomba

Yeah, he could spend the big bucks on one of those ... what are they
called? Rumertofs (I know that's not the word)

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

>> What is so unusual about taking a clay pot (new, unused) and
>> using it thusly... instead of buying a clay baking dish sold in
>> kitchen stores? Goomba
>
> Yeah, he could spend the big bucks on one of those ... what are
> they called? Rumertofs (I know that's not the word)

Römertopf but that's a brand name. They're actually called
Spiessbräter IIRC. But a flower pot sounds just as interesting.

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word for entrepreneur."

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via Baroness Williams

Nancy Young wrote:

>
> Yeah, he could spend the big bucks on one of those ... what are they
> called? Rumertofs (I know that's not the word)
>
> nancy

Yeah, like this one-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=20 627

>Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

I bake bread in a flower pot. Clay is wonderful to bake in.

~Kat


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were not in this body, where would I be--perhaps I am destined to be classified
and qualified. But, oh, I cry out aginst it." --Sylvia Plath

(Jarkat2002) writes:

>>Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
>
>I bake bread in a flower pot. Clay is wonderful to bake in.

Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe... most found in US
markets are imported from countries where no testing is done on the raw
materials contained therein. If you purchased that clay flower pot from the
plant nursery it's intent is to contain posies, not pot roast. Even clay
cookware is not always food-safe. Who was it that recently recounted her
experience with a tainted tangine.

Yes, Alton Brown is most definitely an imbecile... pot head probably ingested
clay pot lead.


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zenit > writes:

>Looks like the thing I grow my herb garden in...

A Chia Pet pot!

Ahahahaha. . . .



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On 12/22/2003 8:12 AM, in article
, "PENMART01"
> opined:

> (Jarkat2002) writes:
>
>>> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
>>
>> I bake bread in a flower pot. Clay is wonderful to bake in.
>
> Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe...

He put the roast in a pyrex dish so it did not contact the flower pot.

That being said I *still* think he's a imbecile.



most found in US
> markets are imported from countries where no testing is done on the raw
> materials contained therein. If you purchased that clay flower pot from the
> plant nursery it's intent is to contain posies, not pot roast. Even clay
> cookware is not always food-safe. Who was it that recently recounted her
> experience with a tainted tangine.
>
> Yes, Alton Brown is most definitely an imbecile... pot head probably ingested
> clay pot lead.
>
>
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PENMART01 wrote:

> Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe...

Which is why I line them with parchment. Problem solved.

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(PENMART01) writes:

>(Jarkat2002) writes:
>
>>>Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
>>
>>I bake bread in a flower pot. Clay is wonderful to bake in.
>
>Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe... most found in US
>markets are imported from countries where no testing is done on the raw
>materials contained therein. If you purchased that clay flower pot from the
>plant nursery it's intent is to contain posies, not pot roast. Even clay
>cookware is not always food-safe. Who was it that recently recounted her
>experience with a tainted tangine.

Ann Mitchell(perhaps Armstrong, or something that starts with a C???), IIRC.
Haven't seen her around these parts in a long while. She got a gen-you-whine
Moroccan tangine and later found out the glaze was tainted with lead. Big
to-do.

Sheldon, do you like the odds of using one of those home lead test kits they
sell at the home improvement centers?

AFAIK even the straight up terracotta flower pots are glazed on the outside,
not sure about the inside tho.

Best,

Marc

PENMART01 > wrote:
> (Jarkat2002) writes:

> >>Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
> >
> >I bake bread in a flower pot. Clay is wonderful to bake in.

> Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe... most found in US

But they probably are if they aren't glazed.

> markets are imported from countries where no testing is done on the raw
> materials contained therein. If you purchased that clay flower pot from the
> plant nursery it's intent is to contain posies, not pot roast. Even clay
> cookware is not always food-safe. Who was it that recently recounted her
> experience with a tainted tangine.

Note that the lead is in the glazing. Unglazed clay is generally safe.

http://homecooking.about.com/library...y/aa030899.htm

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

The Wolf wrote:

>>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>> jackoff.
>>
>> Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
>> doing it only that way from now on.
>
> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

There is a restaurant chain called Spinakers who make bread in flower pots
to order.

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The Wolf > wrote:

> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

Clay is one of the oldest cooking materials known to man. What's so
strange about it?
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The Wolf wrote:
> On 12/22/2003 6:53 AM, in article ,
> "Elana Kehoe" > opined:
>
>
>>The Wolf > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>>jackoff.
>>
>>Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
>>doing it only that way from now on.
>
>
> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

I think you have taken this out of context. The guy likes to multi task
(I which my wife would do that,)and the function of the flower pot, can
be used to cook (earth ware.)

Who cares if it's meant to be a flower pot, in this case, it's meant to
be a cooking vessel.

Richard

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Richard Periut wrote:

> Who cares if it's meant to be a flower pot, in this case, it's meant to
> be a cooking vessel.

Yes, but the question is does it make the roast come out any better. It's
true that it evens out the heat somewhat, but I haven't found uneven heating
of my roasts to be a problem.

That said, I do use flower pots to cook bread in...

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Reg wrote:
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>> Who cares if it's meant to be a flower pot, in this case, it's meant
>> to be a cooking vessel.
>
>
> Yes, but the question is does it make the roast come out any better. It's
> true that it evens out the heat somewhat, but I haven't found uneven
> heating
> of my roasts to be a problem.
>
> That said, I do use flower pots to cook bread in...
>

Well that is highly subjective, but since clay vessels gives foods a
different quality (IMO), then I'd say it is a good thing.

Richard

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The Wolf wrote:
> On 12/22/2003 6:53 AM, in article ,
> "Elana Kehoe" > opined:
>
>
>>The Wolf > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>>jackoff.
>>
>>Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
>>doing it only that way from now on.
>
>
> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

Guess you have very little knowledge of bread baking. Quite common to
use a flower pot.
--
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"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

On 12/22/2003 8:04 PM, in article
, "alzelt"
> opined:

>
>
> The Wolf wrote:
>> On 12/22/2003 6:53 AM, in article ,
>> "Elana Kehoe" > opined:
>>
>>
>>> The Wolf > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>>> jackoff.
>>>
>>> Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
>>> doing it only that way from now on.
>>
>>
>> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

Never baked a loaf of bread in my life.
>
> Guess you have very little knowledge of bread baking. Quite common to
> use a flower pot.

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In article >,
The Wolf > wrote:
>On 12/22/2003 6:53 AM, in article ,
>"Elana Kehoe" > opined:
>
>> The Wolf > wrote:
>>
>>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>> jackoff.
>>
>> Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
>> doing it only that way from now on.
>
>Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

I've done it Alton's way two Christmases in a row, and just
picked up the roast for the third today. It's delightful.

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On 12/22/2003 8:23 PM, in article , "Mark Shaw"
> opined:

> In article >,
> The Wolf > wrote:
>> On 12/22/2003 6:53 AM, in article ,
>> "Elana Kehoe" > opined:
>>
>>> The Wolf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>>> jackoff.
>>>
>>> Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
>>> doing it only that way from now on.
>>
>> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
>
> I've done it Alton's way two Christmases in a row, and just
> picked up the roast for the third today. It's delightful.

OK, did you put it on a pizza stone too?
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In article >,
The Wolf > wrote:
>On 12/22/2003 8:23 PM, in article , "Mark Shaw"
>>>>
>>>>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>>>> jackoff.
>>>>
>> I've done it Alton's way two Christmases in a row, and just
>> picked up the roast for the third today. It's delightful.
>
>OK, did you put it on a pizza stone too?

Yes. Did you bother paying enough attention to the show to find
out what his motivation for all this was?

BTW my roast was delicious. As usual.

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The Wolf wrote:
>
> On 12/22/2003 6:53 AM, in article ,
> "Elana Kehoe" > opined:
>
> > The Wolf > wrote:
> >
> >> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
> >> jackoff.
> >
> > Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
> > doing it only that way from now on.
>
> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
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Go to alt.bread.recipes and look at a current thread on baking bread in clay
flower pots. Apparently it gives some superb bread.

Bert

The Wolf wrote:
> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what
> a jackoff.

Cooking in clay is nothing unsual. For a long time several cultures
(Indians, the ones from southeast asia) and I *think* some African
tribes have cooked in clay pots.

As Alton says on the show, clay is exceptionally good at giving an even
heat distribution. Ovens, especially ones that aren't convection ovens,
have heat that is more directed from the heating element. Using that
"big flower pot" helps even out the heat so the meat doesn't burn on one
side while being rare on the other.

I for one like the idea. It is cost-effective and works well.

If you listen to other things he recommends he talks quite a bit about
methods and gadgets that aren't typical kitchen fare but work well and
are sometimes cheaper. For example, kitchen shears.

--
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http://www.johngaughan.net/

On 2003-12-22, John Gaughan > wrote:

> As Alton says on the show, clay is exceptionally good at giving an even
> heat distribution. Ovens, especially ones that aren't convection ovens,
> have heat that is more directed from the heating element.

This is specially true with electric ovens. I've measured temperature
swings (element on/off) as much as 50 F deg in some electrics. A clay
pot would do much to improve temperature consistency. One should
still use some sort of rack.

nb

The Wolf wrote:

> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
> jackoff.

Never heard of Tandoori cooking, have you? Do you think that electric and
gas ovens have been around for millenia?

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Actually it sounded like a pretty neat idea to me. To each his own..

The Wolf wrote:
> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
> jackoff.
>
>

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:58:59 -0800, Coas****cher
> wrote:

> Actually it sounded like a pretty neat idea to me. To each his own..
>
Although cooking in clay isn't the end of the world AFAIC, I
just looked at the recipe and it didn't seem very good to
me. Maybe he made it look better on TV.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>jackoff.

#############
NO you're the Jackoff. It makes all the sense in the world and works well. BG

The Wolf > wrote:
>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>jackoff.

His hair is nicer than yours.

--Blair
"And he doesn't smell of dumpster."

On 12/22/2003 1:57 PM, in article ,
"Blair P. Houghton" > opined:

> The Wolf > wrote:
>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>> jackoff.
>
> His hair is nicer than yours.
>
> --Blair
> "And he doesn't smell of dumpster."

How do you know?
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The Wolf > wrote:
>On 12/22/2003 1:57 PM, in article ,
>"Blair P. Houghton" > opined:
>
>> The Wolf > wrote:
>>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>> jackoff.
>>
>> His hair is nicer than yours.
>>
>> "And he doesn't smell of dumpster."
>
>How do you know?

From here, you reek.

--Blair
"One step above protist jelly."

On 12/22/2003 11:40 PM, in article
, "Blair P. Houghton" >
opined:

> The Wolf > wrote:
>> On 12/22/2003 1:57 PM, in article ,
>> "Blair P. Houghton" > opined:
>>
>>> The Wolf > wrote:
>>>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>>> jackoff.
>>>
>>> His hair is nicer than yours.
>>>
>>> "And he doesn't smell of dumpster."
>>
>> How do you know?
>
> From here, you reek.

If you have smellavision in your computer, I have stupidavision in mine.

From here you are stupid.
>
> --Blair
> "One step above protist jelly."

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The Wolf > wrote:
>If you have smellavision in your computer, I have stupidavision in mine.
>
>From here you are stupid.

I hate it when school is out.

--Blair
"Go leach."

Blair P. Houghton > wrote in
:

> The Wolf > wrote:
>>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot,
>>what a jackoff.
>
> His hair is nicer than yours.

And his vocabulary more refahned...

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via Baroness Williams

On 12/22/2003 2:14 PM, in article
, "Michel Boucher"
> opined:

> Blair P. Houghton > wrote in
> :
>
>> The Wolf > wrote:
>>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot,
>>> what a jackoff.
>>
>> His hair is nicer than yours.
>
> And his vocabulary more refahned...

And you know this how?
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Bud foundered:

> sf wrote:
>
>>Although cooking in clay isn't the end of the world AFAIC, I
>>just looked at the recipe and it didn't seem very good to
>>me. Maybe he made it look better on TV.
>
>Where can I see your TV show, and buy your books??

Perhaps "sf" can actually cook instead... you can't do either... well, you
supply the gas.



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>The Wolf > wrote:

>>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot,

Actually, he cooked the roast on baking dish placed in a large clay
saucer and *covered* with a vented (the drain hole) clay dome -- a
large, rounded terracotta pot. He didn't just shove the roast into a
flowerpot. The result looked pretty tasty to me.