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Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:31:26 -0800, "The Ranger" > > wrote: > >> The comment that really set me off on my BIL was when we >> compared deli products. He was so proud of the "smoked turkey" >> he got for $5.99/lb. It was one of the worst deli products I'd >> ever had; gummy/mushy, falling apart, soaking wet with injected >> water, and the "smoke" was oozing from the meat. I gave him a >> slice of the smoked turkey I'd purchased from the grocer I use, >> for $6.99; more firm, definite smoke flavor, and no standing >> water. "Yeah but it 'tastes' funny." > > Unfortunately that's a benchmark set by macdonalds and other low end > food choices. When people taste better food they don't like it. I > know someone who takes his family to macdonalds twice a week. I asked > why he didn't go to a real restaurant for a good burger and he said > nothing else tasted as good. Uggg. We had the same thing happen with > our daughter when she came home from college hungry and headed > straight for the fridge. We had just shopped and it was full of all > kinds of stuff. She closed the doors and said there wasn't anything > in there except condiments and asked for money to go out. She was > looking for something frozen and in a box. That's what she was used > to. I noticed that with all our kids the longer they were away the > more their food tastes declined. > > Lou I guess I don't get it either. There is a little deli in my town that makes great fresh subs using buns from the Italian bakery that is one town over. They use quality meats and the price is probably 25% less than the big box chains like subway. I mention the place whenever I get a chance and I get reactions such as "the bun was crispy so it must have been old" or even more important when food quality is concerned "they don't have a touch screen display where I can place my order" |
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George wrote:
> I guess I don't get it either. There is a little deli in my town that > makes great fresh subs using buns from the Italian bakery that is one > town over. They use quality meats and the price is probably 25% less > than the big box chains like subway. I mention the place whenever I > get a chance and I get reactions such as "the bun was crispy so it > must have been old" or even more important when food quality is > concerned "they don't have a touch screen display where I can place > my order" Oh, geez. I have seen that in a convenience store. In my town, there is a sub shop like you describe. Very popular and the subs are way better and cheaper than what you'd get at a chain. A number of years ago, they also opened a Blimpie and a Subway. They're still there, with this place right there, I have no reason to visit them. Someone goes there, I guess. They're missing out. nancy |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:12:44 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
> George wrote: > >> I guess I don't get it either. There is a little deli in my town that >> makes great fresh subs using buns from the Italian bakery that is one >> town over. They use quality meats and the price is probably 25% less >> than the big box chains like subway. I mention the place whenever I >> get a chance and I get reactions such as "the bun was crispy so it >> must have been old" or even more important when food quality is >> concerned "they don't have a touch screen display where I can place >> my order" > > Oh, geez. I have seen that in a convenience store. > > In my town, there is a sub shop like you describe. Very > popular and the subs are way better and cheaper than > what you'd get at a chain. > > A number of years ago, they also opened a Blimpie and a > Subway. They're still there, with this place right there, I > have no reason to visit them. Someone goes there, I guess. > They're missing out. > > nancy i encountered my first 'blimpie base' in new york city. christ, what lousy subs. i assumed it was a front for some mafia money-laundering operation. your pal, blake |
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Reading through this thread - I believe I am so lucky to live in a small
town. there is one larger grocery store (Big M chain), a few small convenience stores and a few take out fast food places. The people at the grocery call me by name, help me with reaching things (I have to use an electric scooter cart) will take my purchases out to my car if asked, no self checkout. There are larger stores 15 miles away - a stretch physically for me to drive that distance and shop (I am disabled). the prices locally might be higher but since I watch for sales and use coupons, the extra expense of traveling to the 'city' is not cost effective. The produce is fresh and a rather good selection - store makes it a policy to frequently deal with local growers in season. And there are a number of roadside small stands within a reasonable distance during growing season. The fast food places - again I deal with the small locally owned and/or managed places - when I deal with them at all. Sometimes living in a small rural area can have its benefits - even if the choice of specialty food items is not available. JonquilJan (who used to live in NYC - but wouldn't go back) Learn something new every day As long as you are learning, you are living When you stop learning, you start dying |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:12:03 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:12:44 -0500, Nancy Young wrote: >> In my town, there is a sub shop like you describe. Very >> popular and the subs are way better and cheaper than >> what you'd get at a chain. >> >> A number of years ago, they also opened a Blimpie and a >> Subway. They're still there, with this place right there, I >> have no reason to visit them. Someone goes there, I guess. >> They're missing out. >> >> nancy > >i encountered my first 'blimpie base' in new york city. christ, what lousy >subs. i assumed it was a front for some mafia money-laundering operation. > >your pal, >blake I'd add Jimmy Johns to the list of crap sandwiches. A few weeks ago I did a gig and the client was insistent on getting me lunch. I didn't know the menu so I told her to surprise me. She got me the roast beef. There was two thin slices of meat, a little mayo, a bit of nasty lettuce, and three paper thin tomatoes. I tasted like crap on top of needed at least double the ingredients. I'd have been really ****ed if I had paid for it. Unfortunately the clients eat there all the time and love it. Lou |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:12:03 GMT, blake murphy
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine: >i encountered my first 'blimpie base' in new york city. christ, what lousy >subs. i assumed it was a front for some mafia money-laundering operation. I think my one and only exposure to a "Blimpie" sub was when I was trapped in steerage on a transcontinental flight. What *is* that disgusting dressing they put on those things? You can't pick the thing apart to get away from it. Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd -- "Some weasel took the cork out of my lunch!" -- W.C. Fields To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox" |
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"George"
> I guess I don't get it either. There is a little deli in my town that > makes great fresh subs using buns from the Italian bakery that is one town > over. They use quality meats and the price is probably 25% less than the > big box chains like subway. I mention the place whenever I get a chance > and I get reactions such as "the bun was crispy so it must have been old" > or even more important when food quality is concerned "they don't have a > touch screen display where I can place my order" People who don't know food and when presented with it think it is too strong tasting. While there ae people working in those factories, I am hping as things get tight more and more will be forced to seek out the small spot with the real food. I think 2-3 people in millions of places beats a few hundred each in 25 places. I hope. |
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"Giusi" > wrote in message
> "George" >> I guess I don't get it either. There is a little deli in my town that >> makes great fresh subs using buns from the Italian bakery that is >> one town over. They use quality meats and the price is probably 25% >> less than the big box chains like subway. I mention the place >> whenever I get a chance and I get reactions such as "the bun was >> crispy so it must have been old" or even more important when food >> quality is concerned "they don't have a touch screen display where I >> can place my order" > > People who don't know food and when presented with it think it is too > strong tasting. While there ae people working in those factories, I > am hping as things get tight more and more will be forced to seek out > the small spot with the real food. I think 2-3 people in millions of > places beats a few hundred each in 25 places. I hope. To me, "mild" is a synonym for "tasteless" but a number of people seem to disagree :-) -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland |
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James Silverton > wrote:
> To me, "mild" is a synonym for "tasteless" but a number of people seem > to disagree :-) In Germany, yoghurt is invariably labelled "mild" and is invariably bland and pointless. Kefir, which is never labelled "mild", is just as bland. The only milk product of this kind that still has some recognisable taste and is sold in regular groceries is Sauermilch (sour milk), which is very much like good kefir, just a bit more liquid. So, for the past few years, I've been buying faux kumyss (real kumyss is made with fermented mare's milk; this one is from cow milk), kefir and ryazhenka (baked yoghurt) from a Russian supermarket (not really Russian, because most everything they sell is actually produced in Germany). Those things still have a taste of their own. Kumyss, in particular, is very intensive-tasting indeed. Very often it is still fermenting and, though the instructions on the plastic bottle say to shake it, you'd be a fool to do it, as the bottle is liable to almost explode in your hands as you open it, spilling its contents all over the place. Victor |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:46:41 -0500, George wrote:
> > I guess I don't get it either. There is a little deli in my town that > makes great fresh subs using buns from the Italian bakery that is one > town over. They use quality meats and the price is probably 25% less > than the big box chains like subway. I mention the place whenever I get > a chance and I get reactions such as "the bun was crispy so it must have > been old" or even more important when food quality is concerned "they > don't have a touch screen display where I can place my order" subway is pretty grim. 'our cruddy bread is fresh-baked every day!' your pal, jared |
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blake wrote on Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:09:56 GMT:
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:46:41 -0500, George wrote: >> >> I guess I don't get it either. There is a little deli in my >> town that makes great fresh subs using buns from the Italian >> bakery that is one town over. They use quality meats and the >> price is probably 25% less than the big box chains like >> subway. I mention the place whenever I get a chance and I get >> reactions such as "the bun was crispy so it must have been >> old" or even more important when food quality is concerned >> "they don't have a touch screen display where I can place my >> order" > subway is pretty grim. 'our cruddy bread is fresh-baked every > day!' I wonder why Subway can't use bread with a decent crust instead of a plastic sponge texture? Even Giant sells acceptable submarine rolls. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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![]() "James Silverton" > wrote in message > >> subway is pretty grim. 'our cruddy bread is fresh-baked every >> day!' > > I wonder why Subway can't use bread with a decent crust instead of a > plastic sponge texture? Even Giant sells acceptable submarine rolls. > > -- > > James Silverton > Potomac, Maryland I've actually heard people say the one reason they go to Subway is because the bread is so good. See George's earlier post about crispy. Some people have no clue. One morning my wife was making breakfast and I suggested that I'd go get some fresh bread. The Price Chopper has a decent Tuscan Loaf. I'm planning to rush home with it while still warm and fresh. So, I ask the clerk for a loaf and as she put it in the bag she asks, "It's warm, do you still want it?" |
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On Thu 13 Nov 2008 08:03:49p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
> > "James Silverton" > wrote in message >> >>> subway is pretty grim. 'our cruddy bread is fresh-baked every >>> day!' >> >> I wonder why Subway can't use bread with a decent crust instead of a >> plastic sponge texture? Even Giant sells acceptable submarine rolls. >> >> -- >> >> James Silverton >> Potomac, Maryland > > I've actually heard people say the one reason they go to Subway is > because the bread is so good. See George's earlier post about crispy. > Some people have no clue. Some people couldn’t even buy a clue, Ed. > One morning my wife was making breakfast and I suggested that I'd go get > some fresh bread. The Price Chopper has a decent Tuscan Loaf. I'm > planning to rush home with it while still warm and fresh. So, I ask > the clerk for a loaf and as she put it in the bag she asks, "It's warm, > do you still want it?" Apparently this clerk was one of them. -- Wayne Boatwright (correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply) ************************************************** ********************** Date: Thursday, 11(XI)/13(XIII)/08(MMVIII) ************************************************** ********************** Countdown till U.S. Thanksgiving Day 1wks 6dys 3hrs 7mins ************************************************** ********************** Insanity is hereditary. You get it from your kids. ************************************************** ********************** |
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On Nov 13, 10:03*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> "James Silverton" > wrote in message > > >> subway is pretty grim. *'our cruddy bread is fresh-baked every > >> day!' > > > I wonder why Subway can't use bread with a decent crust instead of a > > plastic sponge texture? Even Giant sells acceptable submarine rolls. > > > -- > > > James Silverton > > Potomac, Maryland > > I've actually heard people say the one reason they go to Subway is because > the bread is so good. *See George's earlier post about crispy. *Some people > have no clue. Depends on what you want. I like Subway bread for a sub. I would not eat it otherwise. > > One morning my wife was making breakfast and I suggested that I'd go get > some fresh bread. *The Price Chopper has a decent Tuscan Loaf. *I'm planning > to rush home with it *while still warm and fresh. *So, I ask the clerk for a > loaf and as she put it in the bag she asks, "It's warm, do you still want > it?" I needed a new bread knife a couple of years ago and decided to hit a few yard sales before spending 'real' money. When I asked for a bread knife most of the yardsalers (word?) looked completely blank. Still there are 3 good bakeries within a Km of me so all is not lost. John Kane Kingston ON Canada |
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