"Gregory Morrow" > fnord
:

<snip useful info>

Thanks, Greg! Now that I know I won't be going on strike, I can feel
confident spending some money so I can read afb.

--
Saerah

"Welcome to Usenet, Biatch! Adapt or haul ass!"
- some hillbilly from FL

"Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote in
:

> enigma >
> news:Xns9B1E794C856C3enigmaempirenet@ 199.125.85.9: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> blake murphy > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> how expensive is it really? if i'm not mistaken, you can
>>> get there in some kinda hokey way with a web browser (or
>>> god forbid, webtv).
>>
>> running an NNTP server? it's VERY expensive, especially if
>> you want to have any kind of retention.
>
> I think Blake was referring to the end user's ability to
> access news via other means. Of course I was speaking
> about the cost of maintaining NNTP servers from the
> provider's stand point.

i wouldn't call using a web portal "accessing usenet"
either... i guess we're elitists
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

Blinky the Shark > wrote in
news
> enigma wrote:
>
>> Kenneth > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:19:45 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>>I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the
>>>>exorbitant amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should
>>>>be part of their package.
>>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> I would offer a different slant on this...
>>>
>>> Comcast and I had an agreement:
>>>
>>> They were to provide certain services, and I was to pay a
>>> certain amount for them.
>>>
>>> Their choice to deny me one of those services without a
>>> negotiated reduction in cost is unethical in the extreme.
>>
>> class action breech of contract?
>
> What do class action breeches look like? Short, long,
> cuffed, belted? Perhaps you mean "breach".

just below the knee & button fly

yes, i meant breach, but i'm having typo issues (or maybe just
spelling issues).
i'm involved in a breach of contract on my barn right now, so
it seems logical to extend the idea to service providers that
cut services without cost reductions as well.
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:09:54 -0400, "Paco" >
wrote:

>
>"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> <sf> wrote in message ...
>>> On 19 Sep 2008 16:31:52 GMT, "Default User" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Sep 2008 17:09:26 GMT, "Default User" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need
>>>>> > it.
>>>>
>>>>> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
>>>>> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
>>>>> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>>>>> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
>>>>
>>>>That's fine, but the boat has sailed. If you want to sign up for a
>>>>service that charges you three bucks or more per month, go for it. For
>>>>most people who need just some binary access, a block account will be
>>>>much cheaper. A few gig would probably last all year.
>>>>
>>> I still don't know what a block account is.
>>>
>> You buy blocks of bandwidth. Just use teranews or mozzarella. It's idiocy
>> to pay for Usenet.
>>
>
>Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
>"motzarella". (.org)
>
Does it carry abf?



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

top posting

Thanks for all the information, Greg. Looks like I'll get a block
account from them too. One more question: How do you track your
usage? Do they warn you when you're getting low and need to renew?

Thanks
````````````````````

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:33:29 -0500, "Gregory Morrow" >
wrote:

>
>
>
><sf> wrote:
>
>> On 19 Sep 2008 16:31:52 GMT, "Default User" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >sf wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 18 Sep 2008 17:09:26 GMT, "Default User" >
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need
>> >> > it.
>> >
>> >> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
>> >> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
>> >> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>> >> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
>> >
>> >That's fine, but the boat has sailed. If you want to sign up for a
>> >service that charges you three bucks or more per month, go for it. For
>> >most people who need just some binary access, a block account will be
>> >much cheaper. A few gig would probably last all year.
>> >
>> I still don't know what a block account is.
>
>
>I bought 20 gigs for $8.00 from this place, it was recommended by notbob and
>Chatty Cathy IIRC:
>
>Go to:
>
>http://usenet-news.net/
>
>"No nonsense, just Quality Usenet News
>
>We don't promote bad services with a flashy website, we let the quality of
>our usenet service speak for itself.
>
>We don't provide web interfaces or other fancy extras, just pure, raw,
>usenet for the power user. If you use Usenet on a daily basis and need power
>and reliability, we are the provider for you. (If you are new to Usenet and
>don't know what Usenet is, you'll find a brief explanation here.)
>
>We provide quality usenet for power users, providing all newsgroups our
>customers ask for, with high completion rate and long retention. (Over three
>months for binaries, about two years for most text groups.)
>We sell non-expiring block download accounts*, at the best prices on the
>market.
>
>*** New lower block prices! ***
>
>Please see our price list for details.
>
>http://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get
>
>Lifetime Block download accounts:
>
> (Payable in USD, EUR or GBP)
>2 GB $ 2.00 1.00 USD/GB
>5 GB $ 3.00 0.60 USD/GB
>10 GB $ 5.00 0.50 USD/GB
>20 GB $ 10.00 8.00 0.40 USD/GB -New lower price!
>30 GB $ 13.50 10.00 0.33 USD/GB -New lower price!
>50 GB $ 20.00 15.00 0.30 USD/GB -New lower price!
>100 GB $ 32.00 24.00 0.24 USD/GB -New lower price!
>200 GB $ 62.00 46.00 0.23 USD/GB -New lower price!
>300 GB $ 90.00 66.00 0.22 USD/GB -New lower price!
>
>Recurring subscriptions-Unlimited - New!
>Per Month $ 19.00
>Per Quarter $ 54.00
>
>
>Block accounts are non expiring, one time payment. 10% Headers not counted*
>towards block quota usage.
>
>For info about block payment options, please see our FAQ. Max 20
>simultaneous connections total to our servers for all accounts. SSL
>available.
>
>Unlimited accounts are recurring, debited at the interval indicated for the
>different options.
>
>For more recurring subscription options, please visit our sister company
>Ngroups.NET
>
>*Please read our FAQ and our Terms of Service before signing up.
>
>
>http://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=faq
>
>Q: What is a "Lifetime block download account"?
>
>A: Traditionally most Usenet Providers has only sold pay-per-month accounts,
>in which the number of gigs purchased had to be consumed by the end of the
>month - or you'd lose it. Later years they sometimes also offer "unlimited"
>accounts, but you still have to pay for them every month, or the account
>expires.
>
>"Block account" instead means a pay-per-gigabyte account with no time limit;
>if you buy a quota block you can keep downloading until you have used up the
>purchased quota block, if that takes 10 days or 10 years doesn't matter, and
>there are no recurring fees. When you run out of quota, (or before you run
>out), you just add another quota block to the account. (Similar to pre-paid
>phone cards.)
>
>WARNING: Lately some providers has begun advertising time limited or
>pay-per-month accounts having a monthly quota as "block accounts". Those are
>just standard limited accounts, what we sell are "real" block accounts, in
>its traditional meaning, with no time limits and no recurring fees!
>
>Q: Does headers count against my block quota usage?
>
>A: We don't differentiate between header and ardicle downloads in the
>accounting, but we only count 90% of your total download towards your quota,
>allowing 10% for free header downloads. 10% or less is the normal header
>ratio for the average user, and of course if you use only NZB downloads
>instead of downloading headers you get 10% "extra" for free..."
>
>[...]
>
></>
>



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:52:27 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>I called the Comcast sales telephone number and spoke to a salesman in
>the customer retention group. This is the area your call gets routed to
>if you select "discontinue service". I told her Usenet was worth $5 a
>month to me. She gave me a credit for the next year. I told her to
>specifically note that I requested the credit for loss of Usenet
>service.
>
>Everyone should do the same..."

Howdy,

I just did...

After a fair bit of BS about "We can only do this because
you have been a long-term customer..." they offered to
reduce my bill by $10 for each of the next six months.

As you suggested, I hope that others will make the call.

All the best,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:09:54 -0400, "Paco" >
> wrote:
>>
>> Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
>> "motzarella". (.org)
>>
> Does it carry abf?

No, it doesn't. I tried motzarella, too. No binaries.

kili

<sf> wrote
> Does it carry abf?

Yes. I don't generally subscribe to binary groups, but I just checked, and
subscribed. Don't pay for Usenet, there are much better ways to spend your
money. I paid $4 for teranews, a one-time fee, probably 5-7 years ago. I
keep two free nntp servers in case one is down. There are others that come
and go, too.

<sf> wrote
> Does it carry abf?

Yes. I don't generally subscribe to binary groups, but I just checked, and
subscribed. Don't pay for Usenet, there are much better ways to spend your
money. I paid $4 for teranews, a one-time fee, probably 5-7 years ago. I
keep two free nntp servers in case one is down. There are others that come
and go, too.

<sf> wrote
> Does it carry abf?

Yes. I don't generally subscribe to binary groups, but I just checked, and
subscribed. Don't pay for Usenet, there are much better ways to spend your
money. I paid $4 for teranews, a one-time fee, probably 5-7 years ago. I
keep two free nntp servers in case one is down. There are others that come
and go, too.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:14:37 -0400, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:09:54 -0400, "Paco" >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
>>> "motzarella". (.org)
>>>
>> Does it carry abf?
>
>No, it doesn't. I tried motzarella, too. No binaries.
>
I must have access to my abf!


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:14:37 -0400, "kilikini"
> > wrote:
>
>>sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:09:54 -0400, "Paco" >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
>>>> "motzarella". (.org)
>>>>
>>> Does it carry abf?
>>
>>No, it doesn't. I tried motzarella, too. No binaries.
>>
> I must have access to my abf!
>
It carries abf. I just subscribed.

kilikini wrote:

> sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:09:54 -0400, "Paco" >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
>>> "motzarella". (.org)
>>>
>> Does it carry abf?
>
> No, it doesn't. I tried motzarella, too. No binaries.
>
> kili

OK, I'm gonna split hairs <veg>. motzarella *does* allow one to
subscribe to a.b.f. (so cybercat was actually correct when she said she
had subscribed to it...). *However*, it only carries the text only
posts, i.e. those with no attachments, (usually the follow-up posts and
the odd OP with no attachments), therefore you don't see all the foodie
pictures, so it's kinda pointless, IMHO.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:01:23 -0400, Kenneth
> wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:52:27 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:
>
>>I called the Comcast sales telephone number and spoke to a salesman in
>>the customer retention group. This is the area your call gets routed to
>>if you select "discontinue service". I told her Usenet was worth $5 a
>>month to me. She gave me a credit for the next year. I told her to
>>specifically note that I requested the credit for loss of Usenet
>>service.
>>
>>Everyone should do the same..."
>
>Howdy,
>
>I just did...
>
>After a fair bit of BS about "We can only do this because
>you have been a long-term customer..." they offered to
>reduce my bill by $10 for each of the next six months.
>
>As you suggested, I hope that others will make the call.
>
You let them off cheap. Giganews charges $7.99 for 2GB a month.

I still don't understand why they couldn't continue providing access
via Giganews with a huge negotiated break, of course, considering how
many Comcast Usenet customers there are. Reduce their charge to me by
whatever the amount is they pay Giganews and make Giganews a line item
on the bill. What's so hard about that?



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:17:49 -0400, Kenneth wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:19:45 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>>amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
>
> Howdy,
>
> I would offer a different slant on this...
>
> Comcast and I had an agreement:
>
> They were to provide certain services, and I was to pay a
> certain amount for them.
>
> Their choice to deny me one of those services without a
> negotiated reduction in cost is unethical in the extreme.
>

that's a good theory, but i suspect that if you look at the fine print of
your service agreement, you might find it reads like a credit card
agreement, i.e. 'conditions may change at any time for any reason, so bite
me.'

your pal,
blake

enigma wrote:

> Blinky the Shark > wrote in
> news >
>> enigma wrote:
>>
>>> Kenneth > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:19:45 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the
>>>>>exorbitant amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should
>>>>>be part of their package.
>>>>
>>>> Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> I would offer a different slant on this...
>>>>
>>>> Comcast and I had an agreement:
>>>>
>>>> They were to provide certain services, and I was to pay a
>>>> certain amount for them.
>>>>
>>>> Their choice to deny me one of those services without a
>>>> negotiated reduction in cost is unethical in the extreme.
>>>
>>> class action breech of contract?
>>
>> What do class action breeches look like? Short, long,
>> cuffed, belted? Perhaps you mean "breach".
>
> just below the knee & button fly
>
> yes, i meant breach, but i'm having typo issues (or maybe just
> spelling issues).

Thanks for the return good humor and knowing I was just playing with our
language and not flaming yhou.


--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Need a new news feed? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC), enigma wrote:

> blake murphy > wrote in
> :
>
>> how expensive is it really? if i'm not mistaken, you can
>> get there in some kinda hokey way with a web browser (or
>> god forbid, webtv).
>
> running an NNTP server? it's VERY expensive, especially if you
> want to have any kind of retention.
> at one point, at one ISP i was working for, we had to put a
> 12 hour retention on binaries groups & 24 hours on text groups
> while waiting for new servers to arrive (we had had 3 NNTP
> servers, but wouldn't you know two had to fail at the same
> time). you should have heard the customers howl! & that was in
> 1995. servers with multi-gig drives were really damn expensive
> then.
> while storage is cheaper now, there really is more Usenet
> use, & people do expect posts to be around for much longer
> than a week or even a month. it doesn't take long to fill 150
> gigs.
> and no, you can't get into or use a real NNTP server with a
> web browser.
>

my mistake, then. but i was thinking of expense in relation to the other
things they do, or if they farmed out servers to other vendors (as i
believe comcast was already doing).

>> face y'all, y'all just dinosaurs who haven't kept up. get
>> with the program!
>
> no thanks. i detest web based forums & <gag> google groups.
>
> lee

i agree there. i belong to a couple yahoo groups, but there's an option to
get posts by email. browsers should be used for web browsing.

your pal,
blake

kilikini wrote:

> Paco wrote:
>> "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> "Paco" > news:gasbcr$qhu$1
>
>>>> There's pornography on the internet?
>>>
>>> What's pornography?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>> I'm not sure. But, is it just on the internet? Can one get it on
>> TV? The movies or DVDs? Magazines or books? It sounds interesting;
>> must be something new.
>>
>> -sw
>
> I've heard you can watch it live in some places, too. There are stores that
> sell it.

I think Costco has it -- but only in plumper sizes and sex packs.


--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Need a new news feed? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html

Janet Baraclough wrote:


>> > "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
>> > . ..
>
>> >> What's pornography?
>> >>
>> >> Michael
>
> Your life-coach will explain .

At what age does your "life-coach" give you the half-time pep talk?


--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Need a new news feed? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:07:42 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>kilikini wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:09:54 -0400, "Paco" >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
>>>> "motzarella". (.org)
>>>>
>>> Does it carry abf?
>>
>> No, it doesn't. I tried motzarella, too. No binaries.
>>
>> kili
>
>OK, I'm gonna split hairs <veg>. motzarella *does* allow one to
>subscribe to a.b.f. (so cybercat was actually correct when she said she
>had subscribed to it...). *However*, it only carries the text only
>posts, i.e. those with no attachments, (usually the follow-up posts and
>the odd OP with no attachments), therefore you don't see all the foodie
>pictures, so it's kinda pointless, IMHO.

AHA! Thanks for the information.

I will go with usenet-news. 50 GB for $15 should last me a little
while.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf wrote:

>
> Thanks for all the information, Greg. Looks like I'll get a block
> account from them too. One more question: How do you track your
> usage? Do they warn you when you're getting low and need to renew?
>
> Thanks

Once you've registered and paid for your first 'block' you can login to
their site anytime to check your quota i.e. how much you've used and
what you have left. There is an option to 'top-up' on that page too.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

<sf> wrote
>>
>>OK, I'm gonna split hairs <veg>. motzarella *does* allow one to
>>subscribe to a.b.f. (so cybercat was actually correct when she said she
>>had subscribed to it...). *However*, it only carries the text only
>>posts, i.e. those with no attachments, (usually the follow-up posts and
>>the odd OP with no attachments), therefore you don't see all the foodie
>>pictures, so it's kinda pointless, IMHO.
>
> AHA! Thanks for the information.

It's true. I had not actually viewed the group. When I did, I found what CC
stated. However, Teranews does carry it and the photos show.

>
> I will go with usenet-news. 50 GB for $15 should last me a little
> while.

sf wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:07:42 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>>kilikini wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:09:54 -0400, "Paco"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
>>>>> "motzarella". (.org)
>>>>>
>>>> Does it carry abf?
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't. I tried motzarella, too. No binaries.
>>>
>>> kili
>>
>>OK, I'm gonna split hairs <veg>. motzarella *does* allow one to
>>subscribe to a.b.f. (so cybercat was actually correct when she said
>>she
>>had subscribed to it...). *However*, it only carries the text only
>>posts, i.e. those with no attachments, (usually the follow-up posts
>>and the odd OP with no attachments), therefore you don't see all the
>>foodie pictures, so it's kinda pointless, IMHO.
>
> AHA! Thanks for the information.
>
> I will go with usenet-news. 50 GB for $15 should last me a little
> while.
>
>
Yep. That should last you a while...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:43:28 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for all the information, Greg. Looks like I'll get a block
>> account from them too. One more question: How do you track your
>> usage? Do they warn you when you're getting low and need to renew?
>>
>> Thanks
>
>Once you've registered and paid for your first 'block' you can login to
>their site anytime to check your quota i.e. how much you've used and
>what you have left. There is an option to 'top-up' on that page too.

Sounds easy enough. Haven't checked my in-box, but I'm at that stage.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

blake murphy wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:17:49 -0400, Kenneth wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:19:45 -0700, sf wrote:
> >
> >>I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
> >>amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
> >
> > Howdy,
> >
> > I would offer a different slant on this...
> >
> > Comcast and I had an agreement:
> >
> > They were to provide certain services, and I was to pay a
> > certain amount for them.
> >
> > Their choice to deny me one of those services without a
> > negotiated reduction in cost is unethical in the extreme.
> >
>
> that's a good theory, but i suspect that if you look at the fine print of
> your service agreement, you might find it reads like a credit card
> agreement, i.e. 'conditions may change at any time for any reason, so bite
> me.'



One could always try to "work something out", blake...viz:


"Panel: Lawyer cut fees in return for nude dances

Fri Sep 19, 6:17 PM ET

An attorney was suspended for more than a year for accepting nude dances
from a stripper as partial payment for the legal fees she owed him. The
Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission on Thursday said
Scott Robert Erwin will begin serving a 15-month suspension for misconduct
next month.

Erwin, who practices in the northern Illinois city of DeKalb, and his client
mutually agreed that she'd perform nude dances for him in his office as a
way to reduce her legal fees, the commission's report said. He credited her
for $534 toward his bill for services of various legal matters, the report
said.

While she agreed to the performances, the client contended he touched her
inappropriately during those dances, and she went to police in 2002 with
sexual assault allegations.

Erwin denied any inappropriate touching happened, and he was never charged
criminally, the report said. He declined to comment on the panel's decision
Thursday. The woman no longer works as a stripper, the report said..."

</>

sf wrote:

> On 19 Sep 2008 16:31:52 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:

> > That's fine, but the boat has sailed. If you want to sign up for a
> > service that charges you three bucks or more per month, go for it.
> > For most people who need just some binary access, a block account
> > will be much cheaper. A few gig would probably last all year.
> >
> I still don't know what a block account is.

You buy a block of bandwidth of a certain size. You can use that until
it runs out, rather than a monthly limit like most accounts. If your
usage is relatively low, mostly text groups and some binaries, a few
buck's worth will last a year.

If you are a heavy binary user, it may not be as good.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Paco wrote:

>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...

> > You buy blocks of bandwidth. Just use teranews or mozzarella. It's
> > idiocy to pay for Usenet.
> >
>
> Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
> "motzarella". (.org)

SF expressed a need for binary access. None of the free providers, or
NIN for that matter, allow that. Text + some picture groups and such
fit a block account perfectly. Hitting multimedia groups for TV shows,
maybe not.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

sf wrote:


> I will go with usenet-news. 50 GB for $15 should last me a little
> while.

I'd probably go with lower amount than that. For what you describe,
that might be 10 years worth of bandwidth.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On 20 Sep 2008 19:58:57 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>
>> I will go with usenet-news. 50 GB for $15 should last me a little
>> while.
>
>I'd probably go with lower amount than that. For what you describe,
>that might be 10 years worth of bandwidth.
>
Really? I had no idea!


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On 20 Sep 2008 19:56:47 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>Hitting multimedia groups for TV shows, maybe not.

Oh, that's an idea! If I wanted to put Jurassic Fight Club on CD, is
that how I'd do it?



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On 20 Sep 2008 19:55:16 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>> On 19 Sep 2008 16:31:52 GMT, "Default User" >
>> wrote:
>
>> > That's fine, but the boat has sailed. If you want to sign up for a
>> > service that charges you three bucks or more per month, go for it.
>> > For most people who need just some binary access, a block account
>> > will be much cheaper. A few gig would probably last all year.
>> >
>> I still don't know what a block account is.
>
>You buy a block of bandwidth of a certain size. You can use that until
>it runs out, rather than a monthly limit like most accounts. If your
>usage is relatively low, mostly text groups and some binaries, a few
>buck's worth will last a year.
>
>If you are a heavy binary user, it may not be as good.
>
>
Thanks


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:14:37 -0400, "kilikini"
> > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:09:54 -0400, "Paco" >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
>>>> "motzarella". (.org)
>>>>
>>> Does it carry abf?
>>
>> No, it doesn't. I tried motzarella, too. No binaries.
>>
> I must have access to my abf!

sf, e-mail me privately. I have an idea....

kili

cybercat wrote:
> <sf> wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:14:37 -0400, "kilikini"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:09:54 -0400, "Paco"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
>>>>> "motzarella". (.org)
>>>>>
>>>> Does it carry abf?
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't. I tried motzarella, too. No binaries.
>>>
>> I must have access to my abf!
>>
> It carries abf. I just subscribed.

Really? I subscribed about 4 months ago and they didn't carry it. Maybe
they changed because so many providers are cutting Usenet. Huh.
Interesting. Well, I hope to see you in abf, cyber! Lots of good food pix.

kili

sf wrote:
> On 20 Sep 2008 19:58:57 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I will go with usenet-news. 50 GB for $15 should last me a little
>>> while.
>>
>> I'd probably go with lower amount than that. For what you describe,
>> that might be 10 years worth of bandwidth.
>>
> Really? I had no idea!

He's right. Check your e-mail.

kili

Blinky the Shark > wrote in
news

> Thanks for the return good humor and knowing I was just
> playing with our language and not flaming yhou.

if i ever get that overly sensitive, just killfile me

i'm currently involved in a political debate on another forum
(Ravelry. web based, but actually *works* as a forum. i am in
awe of the Codemonkey) which is mostly civil, but with a bit
of snark. i'm trying not to let any of that seep into my other
'lives'
American English has a lot one can play with. drives me batty
when people need things explained.

lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>> <sf> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:14:37 -0400, "kilikini"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:09:54 -0400, "Paco"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, if it is spelled correctly, it's easier to find. Try
>>>>>> "motzarella". (.org)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Does it carry abf?
>>>>
>>>> No, it doesn't. I tried motzarella, too. No binaries.
>>>>
>>> I must have access to my abf!
>>>
>> It carries abf. I just subscribed.
>
> Really? I subscribed about 4 months ago and they didn't carry it. Maybe
> they changed because so many providers are cutting Usenet. Huh.
> Interesting. Well, I hope to see you in abf, cyber! Lots of good food
> pix.
>

Thanks kili! I can read it in Teranews, but not motz. As it turns out you
can read the group but not see the photos.

cybercat wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>> It carries abf. I just subscribed.
>>
>> Really? I subscribed about 4 months ago and they didn't carry it. Maybe
>> they changed because so many providers are cutting Usenet. Huh.
>> Interesting. Well, I hope to see you in abf, cyber! Lots of
>> good food pix.
>>
>
> Thanks kili! I can read it in Teranews, but not motz. As it turns out
> you can read the group but not see the photos.

Dang, it's no fun without the photos!

kili

"kilikini" > wrote
>>
>> Thanks kili! I can read it in Teranews, but not motz. As it turns out
>> you can read the group but not see the photos.
>
> Dang, it's no fun without the photos!
>

I did not word that well. I can view the photos in Teranews, but can only
read the text in Motz.

cybercat wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote
>>>
>>> Thanks kili! I can read it in Teranews, but not motz. As it turns
>>> out you can read the group but not see the photos.
>>
>> Dang, it's no fun without the photos!
>>
>
> I did not word that well. I can view the photos in Teranews, but
> can only read the text in Motz.

Dang, okay. I still think it would be good to see them both together,
though. LOL.

kili

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>> "kilikini" > wrote
>>>>
>>>> Thanks kili! I can read it in Teranews, but not motz. As it turns
>>>> out you can read the group but not see the photos.
>>>
>>> Dang, it's no fun without the photos!
>>>
>>
>> I did not word that well. I can view the photos in Teranews, but
>> can only read the text in Motz.
>
> Dang, okay. I still think it would be good to see them both together,
> though. LOL.
>
You guys have me laughing so hard I started coughing. You will be
responsible if I die from this. lol