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![]() Hello everyone: I prepared a pork roast as in the recipe below. This is my first attempt at brining pork and the proportions of salt and sugar were given to me as being typical for a brining solution. The roast was extremely tender and moist, and the meat had a pronounced taste of salt, more than I prefer. My guests declared the pulled pork sandwiches delicious, not commenting on the salt. My question is: how do I control the resulting saltiness of the finished meat when brining pork? Is the brine over-salted? My impulse is to half the amount of salt, but it is not clear to me whether this particular salt concentration of the brine is critical to the brining process. I hesitate. The meat was in the brine for twelve hours, will a shorter time in this solution result in less saltiness, and will the salt taste be uniform throughout the roast (this was uniform)? I would appreciate suggestions on the techniques of brining pork. Thank you. Kit -------------------------------------------------- Pulled Pork Brine: 4 ounces of brown sugar 6 ounces pickling salt 1 quart water 4 pound Boston butt Combine brown sugar, pickling salt, and water in plastic bag. Add Boston butt making sure it is completely submerged in brine, cover, and let sit in refrigerator for 12 hours. Preheat oven to 450 degrees F. Wrap meat in aluminum foil. Cook for 30 minutes at 450 F. Turn oven down and cook for 10 to12 hours, maintaining a temperature of 210 degrees F. -- |
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> I would appreciate suggestions on the techniques of brining pork.
> It's a lot of salt and not much water. I've used 1 cup per 2 gallons of water/stock to brine turkeys and chicken. Never had a saltiness problem. I think your brine may be too strong. Cut the salt by half and try it again. Paul |
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kitamun wrote:
> Hello everyone: > > I prepared a pork roast as in the recipe below. This is my first > attempt at brining pork and the proportions of salt and sugar were > given to me as being typical for a brining solution. > > The roast was extremely tender and moist, and the meat had a > pronounced taste of salt, more than I prefer. My guests declared the > pulled pork sandwiches delicious, not commenting on the salt. > > My question is: how do I control the resulting saltiness of the > finished meat when brining pork? > > Is the brine over-salted? My impulse is to half the amount of salt, > but it is not clear to me whether this particular salt concentration > of the brine is critical to the brining process. I hesitate. > > The meat was in the brine for twelve hours, will a shorter time in > this solution result in less saltiness, and will the salt taste be > uniform throughout the roast (this was uniform)? First off, brining isn't needed for a boston butt. It's a waste of time and brine. The meat has plenty of internal and external fat, along with abundant connective tissue other collagens that will keep a low-roasted boston butt full of moisture. Excess saltiness is explainable if you did not do a thorough soaking rinse after pulling from the brine. Next time skip the brine and do a rub just prior to putting the butt into the oven to roast. No foil is needed. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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kitamun wrote:
> My question is: how do I control the resulting saltiness of the finished > meat when brining pork? Simple. Don't bother using a brine on pulled pork. Brining is only useful when to make the end results more moist. Eye of loin, tenderloin, etc, are candidates for this. Pork shoulder doesn't (or shouldn't) need any help in this department. If it does you're not using very high quality meat or you're not cooking it properly. -- Reg |
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kitamun wrote on Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:29:13 -0800:
k> I prepared a pork roast as in the recipe below. This is my k> first attempt at brining pork and the proportions of salt k> and sugar were given to me as being typical for a brining k> solution. k> My question is: how do I control the resulting saltiness of k> the finished meat when brining pork? k> Is the brine over-salted? My impulse is to half the amount k> of salt, but it is not clear to me whether this particular k> salt concentration of the brine is critical to the brining k> process. I hesitate. k> I would appreciate suggestions on the techniques of brining k> pork. I've never brined pork but the salt concentration I have used successfully for turkey breast is 1 1/2 cups kosher salt (do not substitute regular salt) and 1 cup of sugar in 1 1/2 gallons of water. Frankly, I can't see why the salt has to be Kosher but there might be a greater weight of salt in a cup of regular salt. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not |
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James Silverton wrote:
> ..... Frankly, I can't see why the salt has to be Kosher but > there might be a greater weight of salt in a cup of regular > salt. You're right, it doesn't. But measure for measure, the amount of salt is not equal between the two grinds, so you'd want to go by weight instead of volume. Or determine what the measured volume equivalent might be. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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On Feb 18, 3:29 pm, kitamun > wrote:
> I would appreciate suggestions on the techniques of brining pork. My formula is 1/4 cup of kosher salt (1-3/4 ounces on my kitchen scale) and 1/4 cup of brown sugar (1-1/4 ounces) per quart of mixed (or not) water/broth/apple juice. As others have said, you may have a brine that's somewhat strong. I use these proportions for everything from shrimp (30 minutes or less) to very lean pork (overnight, sometimes.) Keep experimenting! David |
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![]() Hello Reg: > Simple. Don't bother using a brine on pulled pork. > > Brining is only useful when to make the end results more > moist. Eye of loin, tenderloin, etc, are candidates for > this. I understand. I am using a very slow oven to cook boston butt (cycles from 190 F. 220 F.) for eight hours or more. I assumed brining would be a barrier against dehydration from the long cooking. Tonight I will cook another boston butt unbrined and uncovered. Thanks for the instructions. Kit -- |
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![]() Hello James: > I've never brined pork but the salt concentration I have used > successfully for turkey breast is 1 1/2 cups kosher salt (do not > substitute regular salt) and 1 cup of sugar in 1 1/2 gallons of > water. I am noting your measurements for future reference. Thank you. Kit -- |
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![]() -- Hello David: > My formula is 1/4 cup of kosher salt (1-3/4 ounces on my kitchen > scale) and 1/4 cup of brown sugar (1-1/4 ounces) per quart of mixed > (or not) water/broth/apple juice. > > As others have said, you may have a brine that's somewhat strong. I > use these proportions for everything from shrimp (30 minutes or less) > to very lean pork (overnight, sometimes.) Keep experimenting! I've noted your measurements for future reference. I'm convinced there was too much salt in my brine. My future brining will be less salty. Thanks for the note. Kit -- |
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kitamun wrote:
> I understand. I am using a very slow oven to cook boston butt (cycles > from 190 F. 220 F.) for eight hours or more. I assumed brining would be > a barrier against dehydration from the long cooking. Tonight I will cook > another boston butt unbrined and uncovered. Sounds good. The lower temp will actually help, not hinder, moisture retention. -- Reg |
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Hello,
I ran into your message accidentally while searching information regarding Dehydration. I read an article at http://www.medical-health-care-infor...ehydration.asp Article says "Dehydration means your body does not have as much water and fluids as it should. Dehydration can be caused by losing too much fluid, not drinking enough water or fluids, or both. Vomiting and diarrhea are common causes. Infants and children are more susceptible to dehydration than adults because of their smaller body weights and higher turnover of water and electrolytes. The elderly and those with illnesses are also at higher risk. Drinking fluids is usually sufficient for mild dehydration. It is better to have frequent, small amounts of fluid (using a teaspoon or syringe for an infant or child) rather than trying to force large amounts of fluid at one time. Drinking too much fluid at once can bring on more vomiting. Electrolyte solutions or freezer pops are especially effective. These are available at pharmacies. Sport drinks contain a lot of sugar and can cause or worsen diarrhea. In infants and children, avoid using water as the primary replacement fluid." I think above information is helpful. Regards Monica On Feb 19, 4:34 am, kitamun > wrote: > Hello Reg: > > > Simple. Don't bother using a brine on pulled pork. > > > Brining is only useful when to make the end results more > > moist. Eye of loin, tenderloin, etc, are candidates for > > this. > > I understand. I am using a very slow oven to cook boston butt (cycles > from 190 F. 220 F.) for eight hours or more. I assumed brining would be > a barrier againstdehydrationfrom the long cooking. Tonight I will cook > another boston butt unbrined and uncovered. > > Thanks for the instructions. > > Kit > > -- |
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