Diabetes Nutrition

By eating well-balanced meals in the correct amounts, you can keep
your blood glucose level as close to normal (non-diabetes level) as
possible.

1. Why do I need to see a dietitian?
2. Can I eat foods with sugar in them?
The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with
diabetes can and do eat sugar.
http://www.americanvistas.com/diabetes_topics.htm
What foods can I eat a lot of? ALL LISTED here

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:26:13 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>Diabetes Nutrition
>
>By eating well-balanced meals in the correct amounts, you can keep
>your blood glucose level as close to normal (non-diabetes level) as
>possible.
>
>1. Why do I need to see a dietitian?
>2. Can I eat foods with sugar in them?
>The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with
>diabetes can and do eat sugar.
>http://www.americanvistas.com/diabetes_topics.htm
>What foods can I eat a lot of? ALL LISTED here


I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had
no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
rarely am over over 115.

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna >
wrote:

>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had
>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
>rarely am over over 115.

When do you test?

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky >
wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna >
>wrote:
>
>>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
>>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had
>>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
>>rarely am over over 115.
>
>When do you test?
I test each morning and then some time throughout the day.
I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation.
I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also.
I just work up and took it and it is 94.
I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that.
My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with
her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over
do it.


>
>Nicky.
>T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
>D&E, 100ug thyroxine
>Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:21:12 -0900, Anna >
wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky >
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
>>>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had
>>>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
>>>rarely am over over 115.
>>
>>When do you test?
>I test each morning and then some time throughout the day.

Right. So actually, you don't know what sugar is doing to your blood
glucose, because you're not catching the spikes.

Try this link for how to test:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm

And this one for why, and at what levels damage starts to occur:
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

Sugar will be a pretty fast spike. You might want to start testing at
around 15 minutes and keep going until it drops again.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

Right. So actually, you don't know what sugar is doing to your blood
glucose, because you're not catching the spikes.

Try this link for how to test:

http://www.americanvistas.com/diabetes_topics.htm



On Dec 26, 9:33*pm, Nicky > wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:21:12 -0900, Anna >
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky >
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna >
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
> >>>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had
> >>>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
> >>>rarely am over over 115.
>
> >>When do you test?
> >I test each morning and then some time throughout the day.
>
> Right. So actually, you don't know what sugar is doing to your blood
> glucose, because you're not catching the spikes.
>
> Try this link for how to test:http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm
>
> And this one for why, and at what levels damage starts to occur:http://www..phlaunt.com/diabetes/
>
> Sugar will be a pretty fast spike. You might want to start testing at
> around 15 minutes and keep going until it drops again.
>
> Nicky.
> T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
> D&E, 100ug thyroxine
> Last A1c 5.6% *BMI 25

anna
why be a diabetic (type2?)

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 02:26:52 +1100, "fellaj.s."
> wrote:

>anna
>why be a diabetic (type2?)

Are you a doctor?? I see mine on a regualr basis and if she is pleased
with the way my sugar counts are I don't lie to her and tell her I eat
everything in moderation I guess it really doesn't matter what you
think. You aren't treating me.

On Dec 26, 10:21*am, Anna > wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky >
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna >
> >wrote:
>
> >>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
> >>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had
> >>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
> >>rarely am over over 115.
>
> >When do you test?
>
> I test each morning and then some time throughout the day.
> I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation.
> I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also.
> I just work up and took it and it is 94.
> I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that.
> My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with
> her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over
> do it.
>
You folks in a.f.diabetic should be aware that this Anna idiot also
advocates sucking down Cool Whip.
I wouldn't trust her to sift the shit out of my cat's litter box. If
I had a cat, that is.
>
> >Nicky.

--Bryan

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:44:38 -0800 (PST), "Bobo Bonobo®"
> wrote:

>On Dec 26, 10:21*am, Anna > wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna >
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
>> >>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had
>> >>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
>> >>rarely am over over 115.
>>
>> >When do you test?
>>
>> I test each morning and then some time throughout the day.
>> I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation.
>> I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also.
>> I just work up and took it and it is 94.
>> I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that.
>> My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with
>> her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over
>> do it.
>>
>You folks in a.f.diabetic should be aware that this Anna idiot also
>advocates sucking down Cool Whip.
>I wouldn't trust her to sift the shit out of my cat's litter box. If
>I had a cat, that is.
>>
>> >Nicky.
>
>--Bryan

why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls
here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the
advice.
Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here.

off course you can
how else will your blood sugar go way
way way way
way
up

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:43:58 +1100, "fellaj.s."
> wrote:

>off course you can
>how else will your blood sugar go way
> way way way
>way
> up

Mine doesn't go way way way up. It is called MODERATION.
And knowing when to stop.
Medicine controls my sugar levels.

On Dec 26 2007, 9:25*am, Anna > wrote:
> Mine doesn't go way way way up. It is called MODERATION.
> And knowing when to stop.
> Medicine controls my sugar levels.

Would you mind disclosing your most recent A1C level?

I have seen too many people who are diagnosed with DM, get a scrip for a
pill and rudimentary instructions for testing maybe once a day and a
printed ADA exchange diet that they can't comprehend, but their doctor
warns them to "eat sugar" After all they have "sugar Diabetes"!

Believe me folks, I've known people with sky-high numbers who never went
near a grain of sugar but hadn't a clue that the potatoes and rice in
their dinner was just as bad as table sugar.

What most of these patients are not told is that a single slice of
Wonder Bread is the equivalent of a tablespoon of sugar in carbohydrates.

There is no reason a DM cannot have sugar as long as that sugar is
factored into the allotted amount of carbohydrates that keep the meter
smiling. If it's your birthday, forgo any other carbs at dinner. Just
eat some meat or fish and a *little* piece of cake for dessert.

People wind up going off their meal plans because they feel deprived and
have a need to cheat. Then they really get into high-number trouble.

Count the carbs and make portion adjustments for how your body handles
them and enjoy your life.

JMTCW
--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:01:33 -0600, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

>What most of these patients are not told is that a single slice of
>Wonder Bread is the equivalent of a tablespoon of sugar in carbohydrates.

I'll have to agree with that. I hadn't a clue about potatoes until I
was diagnosed and started keeping track of my blood sugar. And I've
noticed most of the general public just picture a diabetic taking a
shot and eating whatever.

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AmyW wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:01:33 -0600, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>> What most of these patients are not told is that a single slice of
>> Wonder Bread is the equivalent of a tablespoon of sugar in carbohydrates.
>
> I'll have to agree with that. I hadn't a clue about potatoes until I
> was diagnosed and started keeping track of my blood sugar. And I've
> noticed most of the general public just picture a diabetic taking a
> shot and eating whatever.
>

No, I don't think that the general public believes that at all. Most
people are exposed to T2 Diabetics who don't use insulin. I think most
of the general public, including many cookbook authors, think that just
substituting a sugar replacement makes any dessert okay for a Diabetic.
They remain clueless about the added carbohydrates of the flour, fruit,
milk, etc. (Too many DMs aren't properly educated and think the same,
unfortunately)

After writing to the editor of one of the Reiman Publication cooking
magazines several times in regard to their "Diabetic-Friendly" recipes
that contained 45 or more grams of carbohydrates per serving to explain
that *all* carbohydrates must be considered in a recipe for Diabetics, I
finally canceled my subscription.

I would have kept it up for some of the other recipes, but their failure
to respond led me to believe that they just didn't care.


--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

wrote:

> The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with
> diabetes can and do eat sugar.

People with diabetes also can and do have heart attacks, become
impotent, go on dialysis, suffer neuropathy, go blind, have bits
amputated and die early deaths.

Of course diabetics *can* eat any kind of crap they want; I have
diabetic family members who do just that. But it's pretty a high cost
for some cake and candy bars; personally, I'd rather spring for the
stevia and keep my organs functioning.

YMMV.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:11:15 -0500, Jackie Patti >
wrote:

wrote:
>
>> The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with
>> diabetes can and do eat sugar.
>
>People with diabetes also can and do have heart attacks, become
>impotent, go on dialysis, suffer neuropathy, go blind, have bits
>amputated and die early deaths.
>
>Of course diabetics *can* eat any kind of crap they want; I have
>diabetic family members who do just that. But it's pretty a high cost
>for some cake and candy bars; personally, I'd rather spring for the
>stevia and keep my organs functioning.
>
>YMMV.

It is too bad your family members don't care about their health. I"m
not saying I sit and eat candy and cake each day but EVERYTHING IN
MODERATION and I do use Splenda in a lot of things.

People who AREN'T diabetics have heart problems, go on dialysis and
have all the problems you listed too. Don't blame diabetes for these
problems. Blame the people who don't take care of themselves.

Does your family see a Dr. on a regular basis?? I do. I see mine every
three months.
Stevia is non existent here in Alaska but I am able to get Splenda.

Anna wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:11:15 -0500, Jackie Patti >
> wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with
>>> diabetes can and do eat sugar.
>> People with diabetes also can and do have heart attacks, become
>> impotent, go on dialysis, suffer neuropathy, go blind, have bits
>> amputated and die early deaths.
>>
>> Of course diabetics *can* eat any kind of crap they want; I have
>> diabetic family members who do just that. But it's pretty a high cost
>> for some cake and candy bars; personally, I'd rather spring for the
>> stevia and keep my organs functioning.
>>
>> YMMV.
>Blame the people who don't take care of themselves.

Yeah, like eating piles of sugar as the original poster in this thread
suggested.

> Does your family see a Dr. on a regular basis?? I do. I see mine every
> three months.

My MIL sees several doctors every month.

Don't know about my uncle-in-law or either sister as they don't discuss
their health with me.


> Stevia is non existent here in Alaska but I am able to get Splenda.

I use both. And aspartame and cyclamates also.

And I do have recipes in which a TB of blackstrap molasses is used in a
marinade or something. Very teeny, tiny amounts of sugar spread over
several servings. And yeah, that doesn't spike my bg. But I'd hardly
start a thread announcing that diabetics can all eat molasses.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:24:53 -0500, Jackie Patti >
wrote:

>Anna wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:11:15 -0500, Jackie Patti >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with
>>>> diabetes can and do eat sugar.
>>> People with diabetes also can and do have heart attacks, become
>>> impotent, go on dialysis, suffer neuropathy, go blind, have bits
>>> amputated and die early deaths.
>>>
>>> Of course diabetics *can* eat any kind of crap they want; I have
>>> diabetic family members who do just that. But it's pretty a high cost
>>> for some cake and candy bars; personally, I'd rather spring for the
>>> stevia and keep my organs functioning.
>>>
>>> YMMV.
>>Blame the people who don't take care of themselves.
>
>Yeah, like eating piles of sugar as the original poster in this thread
>suggested.
>
>> Does your family see a Dr. on a regular basis?? I do. I see mine every
>> three months.
>
>My MIL sees several doctors every month.
>
>Don't know about my uncle-in-law or either sister as they don't discuss
>their health with me.
>
>
>> Stevia is non existent here in Alaska but I am able to get Splenda.
>
>I use both. And aspartame and cyclamates also.
>
>And I do have recipes in which a TB of blackstrap molasses is used in a
>marinade or something. Very teeny, tiny amounts of sugar spread over
>several servings. And yeah, that doesn't spike my bg. But I'd hardly
>start a thread announcing that diabetics can all eat molasses.

Now that is interesting about the molasses. I do limit what I eat and
even my weight has dropped considerably too which helps too.
Ive used the Splenda in things and not told my husband and he doesn't
know the difference.

Anna wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:24:53 -0500, Jackie Patti >
> wrote:
>> And I do have recipes in which a TB of blackstrap molasses is used in a
>> marinade or something. Very teeny, tiny amounts of sugar spread over
>> several servings. And yeah, that doesn't spike my bg. But I'd hardly
>> start a thread announcing that diabetics can all eat molasses.
>
> Now that is interesting about the molasses. I do limit what I eat and
> even my weight has dropped considerably too which helps too.
> Ive used the Splenda in things and not told my husband and he doesn't
> know the difference.

My husband doesn't like aspartame or sucralose, which is why I use
stevia more often.

He was drinking stevia-sweetened lemonade for months before he noticed I
hadn't made a "regular" and "diet" version - that he was drinking mine.

He also hasn't yet noticed that my cole slaw and homemade relishes and
pickles only come in one version now too.

It's more noticeable in some things than others; when no one can tell
the difference, I leave the sugar out.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/