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Diabetes Nutrition
By eating well-balanced meals in the correct amounts, you can keep your blood glucose level as close to normal (non-diabetes level) as possible. 1. Why do I need to see a dietitian? 2. Can I eat foods with sugar in them? The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with diabetes can and do eat sugar. http://www.americanvistas.com/diabetes_topics.htm What foods can I eat a lot of? ALL LISTED here |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:26:13 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote: >Diabetes Nutrition > >By eating well-balanced meals in the correct amounts, you can keep >your blood glucose level as close to normal (non-diabetes level) as >possible. > >1. Why do I need to see a dietitian? >2. Can I eat foods with sugar in them? >The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with >diabetes can and do eat sugar. >http://www.americanvistas.com/diabetes_topics.htm >What foods can I eat a lot of? ALL LISTED here I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very rarely am over over 115. |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna >
wrote: >I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are >very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had >no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very >rarely am over over 115. When do you test? Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 |
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off course you can
how else will your blood sugar go way way way way way up |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky >
wrote: >On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna > >wrote: > >>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are >>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had >>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very >>rarely am over over 115. > >When do you test? I test each morning and then some time throughout the day. I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation. I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also. I just work up and took it and it is 94. I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that. My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over do it. > >Nicky. >T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid >D&E, 100ug thyroxine >Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:11:15 -0500, Jackie Patti >
wrote: wrote: > >> The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with >> diabetes can and do eat sugar. > >People with diabetes also can and do have heart attacks, become >impotent, go on dialysis, suffer neuropathy, go blind, have bits >amputated and die early deaths. > >Of course diabetics *can* eat any kind of crap they want; I have >diabetic family members who do just that. But it's pretty a high cost >for some cake and candy bars; personally, I'd rather spring for the >stevia and keep my organs functioning. > >YMMV. It is too bad your family members don't care about their health. I"m not saying I sit and eat candy and cake each day but EVERYTHING IN MODERATION and I do use Splenda in a lot of things. People who AREN'T diabetics have heart problems, go on dialysis and have all the problems you listed too. Don't blame diabetes for these problems. Blame the people who don't take care of themselves. Does your family see a Dr. on a regular basis?? I do. I see mine every three months. Stevia is non existent here in Alaska but I am able to get Splenda. |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:43:58 +1100, "fellaj.s."
> wrote: >off course you can >how else will your blood sugar go way > way way way >way > up Mine doesn't go way way way up. It is called MODERATION. And knowing when to stop. Medicine controls my sugar levels. |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:21:12 -0900, Anna >
wrote: >On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky > >wrote: > >>On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna > >>wrote: >> >>>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are >>>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had >>>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very >>>rarely am over over 115. >> >>When do you test? >I test each morning and then some time throughout the day. Right. So actually, you don't know what sugar is doing to your blood glucose, because you're not catching the spikes. Try this link for how to test: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm And this one for why, and at what levels damage starts to occur: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/ Sugar will be a pretty fast spike. You might want to start testing at around 15 minutes and keep going until it drops again. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 |
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Right. So actually, you don't know what sugar is doing to your blood
glucose, because you're not catching the spikes. Try this link for how to test: http://www.americanvistas.com/diabetes_topics.htm On Dec 26, 9:33*pm, Nicky > wrote: > On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:21:12 -0900, Anna > > wrote: > > >On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky > > >wrote: > > >>On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna > > >>wrote: > > >>>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are > >>>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had > >>>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very > >>>rarely am over over 115. > > >>When do you test? > >I test each morning and then some time throughout the day. > > Right. So actually, you don't know what sugar is doing to your blood > glucose, because you're not catching the spikes. > > Try this link for how to test:http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm > > And this one for why, and at what levels damage starts to occur:http://www..phlaunt.com/diabetes/ > > Sugar will be a pretty fast spike. You might want to start testing at > around 15 minutes and keep going until it drops again. > > Nicky. > T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% *BMI 25 |
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I have seen too many people who are diagnosed with DM, get a scrip for a pill and rudimentary instructions for testing maybe once a day and a printed ADA exchange diet that they can't comprehend, but their doctor warns them to "eat sugar" After all they have "sugar Diabetes"! Believe me folks, I've known people with sky-high numbers who never went near a grain of sugar but hadn't a clue that the potatoes and rice in their dinner was just as bad as table sugar. What most of these patients are not told is that a single slice of Wonder Bread is the equivalent of a tablespoon of sugar in carbohydrates. There is no reason a DM cannot have sugar as long as that sugar is factored into the allotted amount of carbohydrates that keep the meter smiling. If it's your birthday, forgo any other carbs at dinner. Just eat some meat or fish and a *little* piece of cake for dessert. People wind up going off their meal plans because they feel deprived and have a need to cheat. Then they really get into high-number trouble. Count the carbs and make portion adjustments for how your body handles them and enjoy your life. JMTCW -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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Anna wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:11:15 -0500, Jackie Patti > > wrote: > >> wrote: >> >>> The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with >>> diabetes can and do eat sugar. >> People with diabetes also can and do have heart attacks, become >> impotent, go on dialysis, suffer neuropathy, go blind, have bits >> amputated and die early deaths. >> >> Of course diabetics *can* eat any kind of crap they want; I have >> diabetic family members who do just that. But it's pretty a high cost >> for some cake and candy bars; personally, I'd rather spring for the >> stevia and keep my organs functioning. >> >> YMMV. >Blame the people who don't take care of themselves. Yeah, like eating piles of sugar as the original poster in this thread suggested. > Does your family see a Dr. on a regular basis?? I do. I see mine every > three months. My MIL sees several doctors every month. Don't know about my uncle-in-law or either sister as they don't discuss their health with me. > Stevia is non existent here in Alaska but I am able to get Splenda. I use both. And aspartame and cyclamates also. And I do have recipes in which a TB of blackstrap molasses is used in a marinade or something. Very teeny, tiny amounts of sugar spread over several servings. And yeah, that doesn't spike my bg. But I'd hardly start a thread announcing that diabetics can all eat molasses. -- http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:24:53 -0500, Jackie Patti >
wrote: >Anna wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:11:15 -0500, Jackie Patti > >> wrote: >> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The truth is that sugar has gotten a bad reputation. People with >>>> diabetes can and do eat sugar. >>> People with diabetes also can and do have heart attacks, become >>> impotent, go on dialysis, suffer neuropathy, go blind, have bits >>> amputated and die early deaths. >>> >>> Of course diabetics *can* eat any kind of crap they want; I have >>> diabetic family members who do just that. But it's pretty a high cost >>> for some cake and candy bars; personally, I'd rather spring for the >>> stevia and keep my organs functioning. >>> >>> YMMV. >>Blame the people who don't take care of themselves. > >Yeah, like eating piles of sugar as the original poster in this thread >suggested. > >> Does your family see a Dr. on a regular basis?? I do. I see mine every >> three months. > >My MIL sees several doctors every month. > >Don't know about my uncle-in-law or either sister as they don't discuss >their health with me. > > >> Stevia is non existent here in Alaska but I am able to get Splenda. > >I use both. And aspartame and cyclamates also. > >And I do have recipes in which a TB of blackstrap molasses is used in a >marinade or something. Very teeny, tiny amounts of sugar spread over >several servings. And yeah, that doesn't spike my bg. But I'd hardly >start a thread announcing that diabetics can all eat molasses. Now that is interesting about the molasses. I do limit what I eat and even my weight has dropped considerably too which helps too. Ive used the Splenda in things and not told my husband and he doesn't know the difference. |
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anna
why be a diabetic (type2?) |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 02:26:52 +1100, "fellaj.s."
> wrote: >anna >why be a diabetic (type2?) Are you a doctor?? I see mine on a regualr basis and if she is pleased with the way my sugar counts are I don't lie to her and tell her I eat everything in moderation I guess it really doesn't matter what you think. You aren't treating me. |
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Anna wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:24:53 -0500, Jackie Patti > > wrote: >> And I do have recipes in which a TB of blackstrap molasses is used in a >> marinade or something. Very teeny, tiny amounts of sugar spread over >> several servings. And yeah, that doesn't spike my bg. But I'd hardly >> start a thread announcing that diabetics can all eat molasses. > > Now that is interesting about the molasses. I do limit what I eat and > even my weight has dropped considerably too which helps too. > Ive used the Splenda in things and not told my husband and he doesn't > know the difference. My husband doesn't like aspartame or sucralose, which is why I use stevia more often. He was drinking stevia-sweetened lemonade for months before he noticed I hadn't made a "regular" and "diet" version - that he was drinking mine. He also hasn't yet noticed that my cole slaw and homemade relishes and pickles only come in one version now too. It's more noticeable in some things than others; when no one can tell the difference, I leave the sugar out. -- http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:01:33 -0600, Janet Wilder
> wrote: >What most of these patients are not told is that a single slice of >Wonder Bread is the equivalent of a tablespoon of sugar in carbohydrates. I'll have to agree with that. I hadn't a clue about potatoes until I was diagnosed and started keeping track of my blood sugar. And I've noticed most of the general public just picture a diabetic taking a shot and eating whatever. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= mailto: AIM: dosbabe1 Ciao for now! Humorous thought of the day: Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades! |
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AmyW wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:01:33 -0600, Janet Wilder > > wrote: > >> What most of these patients are not told is that a single slice of >> Wonder Bread is the equivalent of a tablespoon of sugar in carbohydrates. > > I'll have to agree with that. I hadn't a clue about potatoes until I > was diagnosed and started keeping track of my blood sugar. And I've > noticed most of the general public just picture a diabetic taking a > shot and eating whatever. > No, I don't think that the general public believes that at all. Most people are exposed to T2 Diabetics who don't use insulin. I think most of the general public, including many cookbook authors, think that just substituting a sugar replacement makes any dessert okay for a Diabetic. They remain clueless about the added carbohydrates of the flour, fruit, milk, etc. (Too many DMs aren't properly educated and think the same, unfortunately) After writing to the editor of one of the Reiman Publication cooking magazines several times in regard to their "Diabetic-Friendly" recipes that contained 45 or more grams of carbohydrates per serving to explain that *all* carbohydrates must be considered in a recipe for Diabetics, I finally canceled my subscription. I would have kept it up for some of the other recipes, but their failure to respond led me to believe that they just didn't care. -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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i am Not a doc.
i am never going to treat you .... my question is not how happy you and doc are so i will repeat for argument sake why be a "moderate" type 2 diabetic? |
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"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message ... > AmyW wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:01:33 -0600, Janet Wilder >> > wrote: >> >>> What most of these patients are not told is that a single slice of >>> Wonder Bread is the equivalent of a tablespoon of sugar in >>> carbohydrates. >> >> I'll have to agree with that. I hadn't a clue about potatoes until I >> was diagnosed and started keeping track of my blood sugar. And I've >> noticed most of the general public just picture a diabetic taking a >> shot and eating whatever. >> > > No, I don't think that the general public believes that at all. Most > people are exposed to T2 Diabetics who don't use insulin. I think most of > the general public, including many cookbook authors, think that just > substituting a sugar replacement makes any dessert okay for a Diabetic. > They remain clueless about the added carbohydrates of the flour, fruit, > milk, etc. (Too many DMs aren't properly educated and think the same, > unfortunately) > > After writing to the editor of one of the Reiman Publication cooking > magazines several times in regard to their "Diabetic-Friendly" recipes > that contained 45 or more grams of carbohydrates per serving to explain > that *all* carbohydrates must be considered in a recipe for Diabetics, I > finally canceled my subscription. > > I would have kept it up for some of the other recipes, but their failure > to respond led me to believe that they just didn't care. I have to agree with you there. I've yet to meet anyone who knew that we had to watch our carbs unless perhaps they had an immediate family member with diabetes. And even then, they didn't necessarily realize that the carbs were the culprit. I've often heard people say things like "Brown rice or bread is good! White rice or bread is bad!" They also seem to think that cereal is good so long as it doesn't contain sugar. What they don't seem to realize is that they have to watch portion size. |
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"fellaj.s." > wrote in message ... >i am Not a doc. > i am never going to treat you .... > my question is not how happy you and doc are > so i will repeat for argument sake > why be a "moderate" type 2 diabetic? There is no such term. |
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if you can eat "in moderation" and be a diabetic
ergo a "moderate diabetic" |
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"fellaj.s." <" > wrote in message ... > if you can eat "in moderation" and be a diabetic > ergo > a "moderate diabetic" That makes no sense. If you could eat in moderation and have moderate BG that would make sense. But it just doesn't work that way. |
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On Dec 26, 10:21*am, Anna > wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky > > wrote: > > >On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna > > >wrote: > > >>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are > >>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had > >>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very > >>rarely am over over 115. > > >When do you test? > > I test each morning and then some time throughout the day. > I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation. > I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also. > I just work up and took it and it is 94. > I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that. > My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with > her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over > do it. > You folks in a.f.diabetic should be aware that this Anna idiot also advocates sucking down Cool Whip. I wouldn't trust her to sift the shit out of my cat's litter box. If I had a cat, that is. > > >Nicky. --Bryan |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:44:38 -0800 (PST), "Bobo Bonobo®"
> wrote: >On Dec 26, 10:21*am, Anna > wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky > >> wrote: >> >> >On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna > >> >wrote: >> >> >>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are >> >>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had >> >>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very >> >>rarely am over over 115. >> >> >When do you test? >> >> I test each morning and then some time throughout the day. >> I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation. >> I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also. >> I just work up and took it and it is 94. >> I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that. >> My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with >> her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over >> do it. >> >You folks in a.f.diabetic should be aware that this Anna idiot also >advocates sucking down Cool Whip. >I wouldn't trust her to sift the shit out of my cat's litter box. If >I had a cat, that is. >> >> >Nicky. > >--Bryan why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the advice. Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here. |
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Anna wrote:
> why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls > here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the > advice. > Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here. > Anna, Have you considered the fact that your own doctor might be out of touch with the current treatment programs? Most Diabetics these days benefit from a team approach with an endocrinologist, a Diabetic Educator and a specially trained nutritionist. My DH would not see any doctor for his Diabetes who did not have a well-trained and accessible Diabetic Educator. Many patients suffer from what I call "General Practitioner Syndrome" where they are given a diagnosis, a drug, a sheet of paper with a one-size fits all diet, and instructions to test their blood glucose in the morning once a day, if at all. If this is what your doctor has done for you, then perhaps you will learn something here. -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:22:54 -0600, Janet Wilder
> wrote: >Anna wrote: > >> why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls >> here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the >> advice. >> Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here. >> > Anna, > >Have you considered the fact that your own doctor might be out of touch >with the current treatment programs? Most Diabetics these days benefit >from a team approach with an endocrinologist, a Diabetic Educator and a >specially trained nutritionist. > >My DH would not see any doctor for his Diabetes who did not have a >well-trained and accessible Diabetic Educator. > >Many patients suffer from what I call "General Practitioner Syndrome" >where they are given a diagnosis, a drug, a sheet of paper with a >one-size fits all diet, and instructions to test their blood glucose in >the morning once a day, if at all. If this is what your doctor has done >for you, then perhaps you will learn something here. My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. All the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her???? We don't have any nutritionists here in Fairbanks. I would have to travel to Anchorage which is 500 miles south and our insurance won't cover the trip or the nutritionist because they charge almost $300 an hour. |
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Anna wrote:
> My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. All > the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA > so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the > ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with > the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her???? Personally, I wouldn't. The ADA is notorious for their concentration on low-fat and not on the carbohydrates which are the things that make the blood glucose numbers high. I have plenty of ADA recipes that are so high in carbs that they are laughable. Desserts that are 45 grams of carbs (the entire 3 carb-count servings permitted in your diet). The ADA does some good things and we have been members for many, many years, but their recipes are silly. > We don't have any nutritionists here in Fairbanks. I would have to > travel to Anchorage which is 500 miles south and our insurance won't > cover the trip or the nutritionist because they charge almost $300 an > hour. > -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:57:04 -0900, Anna >
wrote: >On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:44:38 -0800 (PST), "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote: > >>On Dec 26, 10:21*am, Anna > wrote: >>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna > >>> >wrote: >>> >>> >>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are >>> >>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had >>> >>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very >>> >>rarely am over over 115. >>> >>> >When do you test? >>> >>> I test each morning and then some time throughout the day. >>> I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation. >>> I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also. >>> I just work up and took it and it is 94. >>> I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that. >>> My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with >>> her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over >>> do it. >>> >>You folks in a.f.diabetic should be aware that this Anna idiot also >>advocates sucking down Cool Whip. >>I wouldn't trust her to sift the shit out of my cat's litter box. If >>I had a cat, that is. >>> >>> >Nicky. >> >>--Bryan > >why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls >here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the >advice. >Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here. Uh - check who you're insulting. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 |
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"Anna" > wrote in message ... > My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. That's not true. They also see people with thyroid problems, Cushing's syndrome and all other forms of endocrine problems. >All the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA > so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the > ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with > the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her???? I wouldn't trust the ADA for much of anything but taking your money. I've also been to one VERY bad Endo. and another who was not so great. Both of them allowed me to run hyper thyroid and I had to suffer the consequenses of it. > We don't have any nutritionists here in Fairbanks. I would have to > travel to Anchorage which is 500 miles south and our insurance won't > cover the trip or the nutritionist because they charge almost $300 an > hour. $300 an hour? That sounds rather excessive. But the consult shouldn't take an hour. Mine have been anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes. |
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Can I eat foods with sugar in them?
"Anna" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:22:54 -0600, Janet Wilder > > wrote: > >>Anna wrote: >> >>> why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls >>> here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the >>> advice. >>> Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here. >>> >> Anna, >> >>Have you considered the fact that your own doctor might be out of touch >>with the current treatment programs? Most Diabetics these days benefit >>from a team approach with an endocrinologist, a Diabetic Educator and a >>specially trained nutritionist. >> >>My DH would not see any doctor for his Diabetes who did not have a >>well-trained and accessible Diabetic Educator. >> >>Many patients suffer from what I call "General Practitioner Syndrome" >>where they are given a diagnosis, a drug, a sheet of paper with a >>one-size fits all diet, and instructions to test their blood glucose in >>the morning once a day, if at all. If this is what your doctor has done >>for you, then perhaps you will learn something here. > > My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. So is my doctor and he would never advocate more carbs than I can handle without spiking. All > the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA > so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the > ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with > the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her???? No, the ADA advice sucks big time. They ar ein the business of keeping diabetics ina poor state of health. > We don't have any nutritionists here in Fairbanks. I would have to > travel to Anchorage which is 500 miles south and our insurance won't > cover the trip or the nutritionist because they charge almost $300 an > hour. And still get the same shitty advice you are getting from your nurse. Do yourself a favour and use your meter to the best of its abilities because right now it seems it is all you have got. |
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"Nicky" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:57:04 -0900, Anna > > wrote: > >>On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:44:38 -0800 (PST), "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote: >> >>>On Dec 26, 10:21 am, Anna > wrote: >>>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna > >>>> >wrote: >>>> >>>> >>I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are >>>> >>very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she >>>> >>had >>>> >>no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very >>>> >>rarely am over over 115. >>>> >>>> >When do you test? >>>> >>>> I test each morning and then some time throughout the day. >>>> I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation. >>>> I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also. >>>> I just work up and took it and it is 94. >>>> I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that. >>>> My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with >>>> her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over >>>> do it. >>>> >>>You folks in a.f.diabetic should be aware that this Anna idiot also >>>advocates sucking down Cool Whip. >>>I wouldn't trust her to sift the shit out of my cat's litter box. If >>>I had a cat, that is. >>>> >>>> >Nicky. >>> >>>--Bryan >> >>why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls >>here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the >>advice. >>Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here. > > Uh - check who you're insulting. Anna is quite naive and uninformed about life in general it seems. |
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Janet Wilder > wrote:
: Anna wrote: : > My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. All : > the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA : > so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the : > ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with : > the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her???? : Personally, I wouldn't. The ADA is notorious for their concentration on : low-fat and not on the carbohydrates which are the things that make the : blood glucose numbers high. : I have plenty of ADA recipes that are so high in carbs that they are : laughable. Desserts that are 45 grams of carbs (the entire 3 carb-count : servings permitted in your diet). : The ADA does some good things and we have been members for many, many : years, but their recipes are silly. : -- : Janet Wilder My dietician, who was no low carber, used to say that you have to just ignore he recipes in the ADA lay magazine, Diabetes Forcast because they are all too high in carbs fo rany but diabetics who are engaged in very heavy manual labor. Were I to eat the amounts you have had recommended to you, 12 15 gram carb units a day, I would have such high bg numbers that I would have to take ffar mor meds than the 1000mgs twice a day of Metformin EX and 1 mg of amaryl at night to keep myself from having all kinds of diabetic complications. For me, she recommended 8 15 gram cab units and I foun d that too much fo rme to handle, so cut back further using my meter as my guide, checking FBG and after meal readings. In am 20 years a type 2 and stil wilthout such complications(knock on wood). Wendy |
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"W. Baker" > wrote in message ... > My dietician, who was no low carber, used to say that you have to just > ignore he recipes in the ADA lay magazine, Diabetes Forcast because they > are all too high in carbs fo rany but diabetics who are engaged in very > heavy manual labor. > > Were I to eat the amounts you have had recommended to you, 12 15 gram carb > units a day, I would have such high bg numbers that I would have to take > ffar mor meds than the 1000mgs twice a day of Metformin EX and 1 mg of > amaryl at night to keep myself from having all kinds of diabetic > complications. For me, she recommended 8 15 gram cab units and I foun d > that too much fo rme to handle, so cut back further using my meter as my > guide, checking FBG and after meal readings. In am 20 years a type 2 and > stil wilthout such complications(knock on wood). I've been told that those recipes are intended for people with type 1 who can shoot insulin to cover the carbs they eat. |
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Anna > wrote: > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:22:54 -0600, Janet Wilder > > wrote: > > >Anna wrote: > > > >> why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls > >> here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the > >> advice. > >> Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here. > >> > > Anna, > > > >Have you considered the fact that your own doctor might be out of touch > >with the current treatment programs? Most Diabetics these days benefit > >from a team approach with an endocrinologist, a Diabetic Educator and a > >specially trained nutritionist. > > > >My DH would not see any doctor for his Diabetes who did not have a > >well-trained and accessible Diabetic Educator. > > > >Many patients suffer from what I call "General Practitioner Syndrome" > >where they are given a diagnosis, a drug, a sheet of paper with a > >one-size fits all diet, and instructions to test their blood glucose in > >the morning once a day, if at all. If this is what your doctor has done > >for you, then perhaps you will learn something here. > > My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. All > the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA > so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the > ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with > the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her???? No. The ADA is a surprisingly bad source of information for type 2 diabetics. Or are you type 1? You haven't given us any information to go on. > We don't have any nutritionists here in Fairbanks. I would have to > travel to Anchorage which is 500 miles south and our insurance won't > cover the trip or the nutritionist because they charge almost $300 an > hour. Priscilla, T2, diet & exercise |
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Julie Bove wrote:
> "W. Baker" > wrote in message > ... > >> My dietician, who was no low carber, used to say that you have to just >> ignore he recipes in the ADA lay magazine, Diabetes Forcast because they >> are all too high in carbs fo rany but diabetics who are engaged in very >> heavy manual labor. >> >> Were I to eat the amounts you have had recommended to you, 12 15 gram carb >> units a day, I would have such high bg numbers that I would have to take >> ffar mor meds than the 1000mgs twice a day of Metformin EX and 1 mg of >> amaryl at night to keep myself from having all kinds of diabetic >> complications. For me, she recommended 8 15 gram cab units and I foun d >> that too much fo rme to handle, so cut back further using my meter as my >> guide, checking FBG and after meal readings. In am 20 years a type 2 and >> stil wilthout such complications(knock on wood). > > I've been told that those recipes are intended for people with type 1 who > can shoot insulin to cover the carbs they eat. > > That would be a whole lot of insulin! There has to be a calculation of carbs being eaten and blood glucose level made for the bolus. Type 1s have to watch their carbs, too. -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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Can I eat foods with sugar in them?
Anna wrote:
> My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. Yeah, endos do not just deal with diabetics though; diabetes is the most common, but not the only endocrine disorder. > All > the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA > so yes I do trust her. If it were me, I'd check with the AACE rather than the ADA. The AACE is an association of professional endocrinologists, not just a random group of whomevers. The AACE guidelines are evidence-based. > My sister has a nurse friend who works for the > ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with > the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her???? Well, I read what the ADA had to say 20 years ago and absolutely decided not to trust them myself. YMMV. -- http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ |
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On Dec 26 2007, 9:25*am, Anna > wrote:
> Mine doesn't go way way way up. It is called MODERATION. > And knowing when to stop. > Medicine controls my sugar levels. Would you mind disclosing your most recent A1C level? |
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