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cake tin sizes
I have a round cake tin that is 30cm/12in in size. I cannot find many
recipes for this. If I want to make a cake that calls for a smaller cake tin size, how do I adjust the ingredient quantities so that this tin is useable? thanks for your help. Maria  Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ 


"maria" wrote in message news[email protected] I have a round cake tin that is 30cm/12in in size. I cannot find many recipes for this. If I want to make a cake that calls for a smaller cake tin size, how do I adjust the ingredient quantities so that this tin is useable? thanks for your help. Maria You can convert the recipe to "baker's percentages" and then scale the recipe up or down to fit the pan. http://www.artisanbakers.com/percentage.html http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...7s+percentages 


Thanks very much! I went to that site however and found conversions for
bread but not cakes. That means I am not sure how to convert the eggs, sugar or other things that are in a cake but not in bread! You can convert the recipe to "baker's percentages" and then scale the recipe up or down to fit the pan. http://www.artisanbakers.com/percentage.html http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...7s+percentages  Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ 


"maria" wrote in message news[email protected] Thanks very much! I went to that site however and found conversions for bread but not cakes. That means I am not sure how to convert the eggs, sugar or other things that are in a cake but not in bread! Then you missed the fundamental concept. You could apply this to any baked goods: cakes, bread, cookies, ... You first convert all the ingredients to weight if necessary. For instance, if the recipe calls for 1 cup of AP flour, you have to convert that to 120 grams of flour. One egg is 50 grams. Since you are in the UK, I skipped this point as I assumed you were already using weight measures instead of cup measurements. Once the ingredients are converted to weight, you choose a reference ingredient (usually the one with the highest weight, like flour) and make that the 100% reference. You calculate the ratios from that as explained in the many sites at the link I posted. So if your cake recipe calls for 300g of flour and you want to increase the recipe to fit a 20% larger pan, the flour weight is increased to 360 grams. If the sugar is 100% of the flour weight, it now 360 grams, also. If the fat is 20% of the flour weight, it now becomes 72g. If the weight of the eggs is 30% of the flour weight, then you use 108 grams of eggs. Technically, the amount of leavening agent doesn't increase proportionally as the pan size increases, but within the limits of the home kitchen, I wouldn't worry about it. For very small measurement like "1/4 tsp. of nutmeg" I just estimate. If you need to calculate the weight of given amount of an ingredient, there are a couple of good methods. First, nutrition labels (at least in the US) state the serving size in both cup and weight measurements. For instance, AP flours says the serving size is 1/4 cup or 30 grams. Therefore a cup of AP flour is 120 grams. If that doesn't work, you can find the data by searching the USDA nutrition database: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ If you search on "egg" you will find many choices including "whole, raw egg" After selecting that choice you will find that one large egg is 50 grams. I pencil in the weights and percentages in my cookbooks as I go. 


On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:54:53 +0100, Vox Humana wrote:
"maria" wrote in message news[email protected] Thanks very much! I went to that site however and found conversions for bread but not cakes. That means I am not sure how to convert the eggs, sugar or other things that are in a cake but not in bread! Then you missed the fundamental concept. You could apply this to any baked goods: cakes, bread, cookies, ... You first convert all the ingredients to weight if necessary. For instance, if the recipe calls for 1 cup of AP flour, you have to convert that to 120 grams of flour. One egg is 50 grams. Since you are in the UK, I skipped this point as I assumed you were already using weight measures instead of cup measurements. Once the ingredients are converted to weight, you choose a reference ingredient (usually the one with the highest weight, like flour) and make that the 100% reference. You calculate the ratios from that as explained in the many sites at the link I posted. So if your cake recipe calls for 300g of flour and you want to increase the recipe to fit a 20% larger pan, the flour weight is increased to 360 grams. If the sugar is 100% of the flour weight, it now 360 grams, also. If the fat is 20% of the flour weight, it now becomes 72g. If the weight of the eggs is 30% of the flour weight, then you use 108 grams of eggs. Technically, the amount of leavening agent doesn't increase proportionally as the pan size increases, but within the limits of the home kitchen, I wouldn't worry about it. For very small measurement like "1/4 tsp. of nutmeg" I just estimate. If you need to calculate the weight of given amount of an ingredient, there are a couple of good methods. First, nutrition labels (at least in the US) state the serving size in both cup and weight measurements. For instance, AP flours says the serving size is 1/4 cup or 30 grams. Therefore a cup of AP flour is 120 grams. If that doesn't work, you can find the data by searching the USDA nutrition database: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ If you search on "egg" you will find many choices including "whole, raw egg" After selecting that choice you will find that one large egg is 50 grams. I pencil in the weights and percentages in my cookbooks as I go. Wow thanks for the detail that makes perfect sense. Great. maria  Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ 


"maria" wrote in message news[email protected] On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:54:53 +0100, Vox Humana wrote: "maria" wrote in message news[email protected] Thanks very much! I went to that site however and found conversions for bread but not cakes. That means I am not sure how to convert the eggs, sugar or other things that are in a cake but not in bread! Then you missed the fundamental concept. You could apply this to any baked goods: cakes, bread, cookies, ... You first convert all the ingredients to weight if necessary. For instance, if the recipe calls for 1 cup of AP flour, you have to convert that to 120 grams of flour. One egg is 50 grams. Since you are in the UK, I skipped this point as I assumed you were already using weight measures instead of cup measurements. Once the ingredients are converted to weight, you choose a reference ingredient (usually the one with the highest weight, like flour) and make that the 100% reference. You calculate the ratios from that as explained in the many sites at the link I posted. So if your cake recipe calls for 300g of flour and you want to increase the recipe to fit a 20% larger pan, the flour weight is increased to 360 grams. If the sugar is 100% of the flour weight, it now 360 grams, also. If the fat is 20% of the flour weight, it now becomes 72g. If the weight of the eggs is 30% of the flour weight, then you use 108 grams of eggs. Technically, the amount of leavening agent doesn't increase proportionally as the pan size increases, but within the limits of the home kitchen, I wouldn't worry about it. For very small measurement like "1/4 tsp. of nutmeg" I just estimate. If you need to calculate the weight of given amount of an ingredient, there are a couple of good methods. First, nutrition labels (at least in the US) state the serving size in both cup and weight measurements. For instance, AP flours says the serving size is 1/4 cup or 30 grams. Therefore a cup of AP flour is 120 grams. If that doesn't work, you can find the data by searching the USDA nutrition database: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ If you search on "egg" you will find many choices including "whole, raw egg" After selecting that choice you will find that one large egg is 50 grams. I pencil in the weights and percentages in my cookbooks as I go. Wow thanks for the detail that makes perfect sense. Great. No problem. It all seems very complex until you do it once. 


"maria" wrote in message news[email protected] Thanks very much! I went to that site however and found conversions for bread but not cakes. That means I am not sure how to convert the eggs, sugar or other things that are in a cake but not in bread! You can convert the recipe to "baker's percentages" and then scale the recipe up or down to fit the pan. http://www.artisanbakers.com/percentage.html http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...7s+percentages Maria: I have a chart that shows the quantities needed for rich fruit cake for ALL the standard round and square tins. If you like, I could scan it and email it to you. It's from a 30 year old paperback put out by Good Housekeeping in the UK. It uses weights, not cups. Cheers Graham 
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