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TN: DDC, Riesling, ESJ, more
What could go wrong with a half bottle of 1995 Louis Latour Meursault-Perrieres? Well, lots. While everyone talks about "96 and premox, "95s are just as subject, its just people had lower expectations.. And its Louis Latour. And its a 375 ml. On the other hand, its Meursault Perrieres. OK, the answer. While its got some nutty notes, its not totally oxidized, so a bit above expectations. However, it cant overcome its Latour-ness, so its on the flat, fat, and uninteresting side. C+
So with my leftovers (chicken) I switched to the 2014 Edmunds St John Gamay Noir. Light color, full flavor, red cherry and raspberry, a little meat, floral/violet aromas. Pretty and fun. B+ Friday we grilled tuna steaks, served with the 2015 Jane et Sylvain Bourgogne Rouge. Crunchy red fruits (cranberry/raspberry), some herbs, lighter bodied but with good finish. B Then met some friends and went to see the Bill Charlap Trio (one friend was his original drummer. Great show, and we had some speck and tapenade. I tried 2 BTG (menu didnt list vintages, and on most wines not producer, but I draw the line at latter). San Matteo Gavi - sweet peach, citrus, a little straw, a bit short and fat. B-/C+ Alois Lageder Chardonnay- hey, pretty nice. Citrus and seashell, good acids, I could have been convinced it was Chablis. B Saturday a 7 AM speech (!?!?), a bit of work, a farmers market, and then to New Rochelle for a wake/visitation. John Dawson was a great guy, and the wine geek most responsible for my love of Riesling. Wanted to toast him that night, but thought his beloved Prum not the best match for Spanish mackerel, so I went with dry Riesling. The 2016 Battenfeld Spanier Moelsheim Riesling Trocken was bright, gingery, with citrus and slatey minerals. Good length, and a good wine to toast a passed friends. B++ , Sunday Betsys quartet played a benefit concert for my organization, afterwards I made her a pre-birthday dinner- flank steak, grilled leeks, potato timbales, and salad. Ive heard that DDC has made a turn to the modern, but the 1998 Domaine de Chevalier rouge is still in classic mode. Red and black current, earth, smoke, and some tobacco. Midbodied, nicely balanced, good length. B+ Monday was her actual birthday, we went to Bread and Brine for steamers, fish tacos, octopus, and poke bowl. I had a glass of the 2015 Jolivet Sauvignon Blanc, a little grassy, some grapefruit, not too long. B-/C+ Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C drinkable. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice.Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. |
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On 12/5/17 1:30 PM, DaleW wrote:
> However, it cant overcome its Latour-ness, so its on the flat, > fat, and uninteresting side. C+ ROFLMAO! That now ranks as my favorite tasting note of 2017, Dale. Well put. > > So with my leftovers (chicken) I switched to the 2014 Edmunds St > John Gamay Noir. Light color, full flavor, red cherry and raspberry, > a little meat, floral/violet aromas. Pretty and fun. B+ Ranking among the least surprising tasting notes of 2017. Bone Jolly is about as sure a thing as there is in domestic Gamay, not that there's all that much competition. Apropos of that, I'll throw out the only other domestic Gamays that grace our table: Vincent Gamay Noir (Oregon) and Chateau Gamay Noir (Michigan). Bone Jolly is still the gold standard, though. > Saturday a 7 AM speech (!?!?), a bit of work, a farmers market, and > then to New Rochelle for a wake/visitation. John Dawson was a great > guy, and the wine geek most responsible for my love of Riesling. > Wanted to toast him that night, but thought his beloved Prum not the > best match for Spanish mackerel, so I went with dry Riesling. The > 2016 Battenfeld Spanier Moelsheim Riesling Trocken was bright, > gingery, with citrus and slatey minerals. Good length, and a good > wine to toast a passed friends. B++ Sorry to hear about John Dawson, Dale. Nice tribute. I really like most of Battenfeld Spanier's wines. > Sunday Betsys quartet played a > benefit concert for my organization, afterwards I made her a > pre-birthday dinner- flank steak, grilled leeks, potato timbales, and > salad. Ive heard that DDC has made a turn to the modern, but the > 1998 Domaine de Chevalier rouge is still in classic mode. Red and > black current, earth, smoke, and some tobacco. Midbodied, nicely > balanced, good length. B+ Yes, DDC is one of the few remaining holdouts, it would seem, in Bdx. Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 10:49:35 AM UTC-5, Mark Lipton wrote:
> On 12/5/17 1:30 PM, DaleW wrote: > > > However, it cant overcome its Latour-ness, so its on the flat, > > fat, and uninteresting side. C+ > > ROFLMAO! That now ranks as my favorite tasting note of 2017, Dale. > Well put. > > > > > > So with my leftovers (chicken) I switched to the 2014 Edmunds St > > John Gamay Noir. Light color, full flavor, red cherry and raspberry, > > a little meat, floral/violet aromas. Pretty and fun. B+ > > Ranking among the least surprising tasting notes of 2017. Bone Jolly is > about as sure a thing as there is in domestic Gamay, not that there's > all that much competition. Apropos of that, I'll throw out the only > other domestic Gamays that grace our table: Vincent Gamay Noir (Oregon) > and Chateau Gamay Noir (Michigan). Bone Jolly is still the gold > standard, though. Mine too. Never had Vincent or Chateau Gamay Noir. Is Chateau name of winery, or Chateau Gamay? > Yes, DDC is one of the few remaining holdouts, it would seem, in Bdx. > I think no longer a holdout, by 2005 pretty glossy, I was just unsure when switch (1998 is the cusp vintage for Pape Clement, for instance) |
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On 12/7/17 2:23 PM, DaleW wrote:
> Mine too. Never had Vincent or Chateau Gamay Noir. Is Chateau name of winery, or Chateau Gamay? > Oopsie! That should have read "Chateau Grand Traverse." Sorry about the brain cramp. Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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