We had a nice little group get together at La Mangeoire on 2nd Avenue on a warm and rainy night. A nice charucterie plate (pate, mousse, sausage, duck breast, cornichons, celeriac remoulade) was a nice way to start. After that, we started our search for the Greenie Meanies in 2004 Burgundy. I'd say on a scale of pyrazine sensitivity of one to ten I'm probably a 3 or 4, and yet have had mixed results, but thought some wines improved lately. So trying to keep an open mind:

2004 Lafon "Santenots" Volnay 1er
This was a perplexing wine. Red fruit and a hint of celery stalk on the nose but no TCA, but on the palate (unusually) I thought corked or at least musty. Later the corkiness seemed to fade to me, but others (who initially didn't think corked) thought it worse. ?

2004 Leroy Bourgogne
Green, mean, sour. Someone commented "this is more Lee Roy than Le Roi". C/C+

2004 Meo-Camuzet "Chaumes" Vosne-Romanee 1er
Some green, rather lifted nose, some wood, high acids. I liked this more on revisit. B/B+

I enjoyed the roast chicken, frites, and butter lettuce.

2004 Barthod "Beaux Bruns" Chambolle-Musigny 1er
Probably my wine of the night. Polished, full fruited, spice and smoke.
B+/A-
2004 Potel "Aux Echanges"Chambolle-Musigny 1er
A monopole I've never heard of. Pine needle and bell pepper, red fruits, B/B-

2004 Clos des Lambrays
Green notes, but more herbal here. Lighter-bodied, mature. Actually as a wine I'm ok with this, but disappointing as a 10 year old GC. B

2004 Fourrier "Clos Solon" Morey-St. Denis
Herbal, moderate fruit, not so long but good village wine. B

2004 Roty "Champs Chenys" Gevrey Chambertin Vieilles Vignes
The green on this is more pine-needle than herbal, a bit clipped, not my fave B-

2004 Ponsot Chapelle- Chambertin
Meaty, full, floral. B+

2004 Fourrier Griottes-Chambertin
Nice package except for a rubbery thing on nose. Nice mouthfeel, good flavors, but the reduction keeps it out of favorites (air helped but not a lot) B

2004 Bouchard Chambertin-Clos de Beze
Full, some wood, just a hint of green tobacco leaf, red fruits, a little forest floor. I like. B+

2004 Fourrier "Clos St Jacques" Gevrey-Chambertin 1er
Black cherries, spice and herbs, fairly lush on palate. B+

So as a low to moderately GM-sensitive I found some wines to like, but nothing to really seek out. Others with high sensitivity found less to like.

As we ended with cheese (Comte and Ossua-Iraty) I enjoyed a couple of Champagnes

Charles Dufour Bulles de Comptoir Champagne
Citrusy, low dosage, good. B

Vouette & Sorbee Saignee de Sorbee Rose Champagne
Dry, crisp, needs food, full, I like a lot. B+/A-

Fun educational night.


Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice.Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:24:10 AM UTC-4, DaleW wrote:
> We had a nice little group get together at La Mangeoire on 2nd Avenue on a warm and rainy night. A nice charucterie plate (pate, mousse, sausage, duck breast, cornichons, celeriac remoulade) was a nice way to start. After that, we started our search for the Greenie Meanies in 2004 Burgundy. I'd say on a scale of pyrazine sensitivity of one to ten I'm probably a 3 or 4, and yet have had mixed results, but thought some wines improved lately. So trying to keep an open mind:
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> 2004 Lafon "Santenots" Volnay 1er
>
> This was a perplexing wine. Red fruit and a hint of celery stalk on the nose but no TCA, but on the palate (unusually) I thought corked or at least musty. Later the corkiness seemed to fade to me, but others (who initially didn't think corked) thought it worse. ?
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> 2004 Leroy Bourgogne
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> Green, mean, sour. Someone commented "this is more Lee Roy than Le Roi". C/C+
>
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> 2004 Meo-Camuzet "Chaumes" Vosne-Romanee 1er
>
> Some green, rather lifted nose, some wood, high acids. I liked this more on revisit. B/B+
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> I enjoyed the roast chicken, frites, and butter lettuce.
>
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> 2004 Barthod "Beaux Bruns" Chambolle-Musigny 1er
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> Probably my wine of the night. Polished, full fruited, spice and smoke.
>
> B+/A-
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> 2004 Potel "Aux Echanges"Chambolle-Musigny 1er
>
> A monopole I've never heard of. Pine needle and bell pepper, red fruits, B/B-
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> 2004 Clos des Lambrays
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> Green notes, but more herbal here. Lighter-bodied, mature. Actually as a wine I'm ok with this, but disappointing as a 10 year old GC. B
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> 2004 Fourrier "Clos Solon" Morey-St. Denis
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> Herbal, moderate fruit, not so long but good village wine. B
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> 2004 Roty "Champs Chenys" Gevrey Chambertin Vieilles Vignes
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> The green on this is more pine-needle than herbal, a bit clipped, not my fave B-
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> 2004 Ponsot Chapelle- Chambertin
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> Meaty, full, floral. B+
>
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> 2004 Fourrier Griottes-Chambertin
>
> Nice package except for a rubbery thing on nose. Nice mouthfeel, good flavors, but the reduction keeps it out of favorites (air helped but not a lot) B
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> 2004 Bouchard Chambertin-Clos de Beze
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> Full, some wood, just a hint of green tobacco leaf, red fruits, a little forest floor. I like. B+
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> 2004 Fourrier "Clos St Jacques" Gevrey-Chambertin 1er
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> Black cherries, spice and herbs, fairly lush on palate. B+
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> So as a low to moderately GM-sensitive I found some wines to like, but nothing to really seek out. Others with high sensitivity found less to like.
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> As we ended with cheese (Comte and Ossua-Iraty) I enjoyed a couple of Champagnes
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> Charles Dufour Bulles de Comptoir Champagne
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> Citrusy, low dosage, good. B
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> Vouette & Sorbee Saignee de Sorbee Rose Champagne
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> Dry, crisp, needs food, full, I like a lot. B+/A-
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> Fun educational night.
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> Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice.Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

I hate the Leroy. She often holds these wines too long then dumps them on the market forcing them on the distributors while holding the 1er and GC stuff hostage. DOn't buy enoough Bourgogne, don't get the good stuff.

On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:00:23 PM UTC-4, Bi!! wrote:

> I hate the Leroy. She often holds these wines too long then dumps them on the market forcing them on the distributors while holding the 1er and GC stuff hostage. DOn't buy enoough Bourgogne, don't get the good stuff.

I'm no Leroy fan. But this is a bit different- her husband died, so in 2004 she only bottled Domaine Bourgogne and I think 4 village wines- Vosne, Gevrey, Chambolle, and NSG. So all of the 1ers and GCs is contained in the lower level bottlings. But I think the Bourgogne was $60-80 on release.